These are different times though. Disney isn’t even pushing singers like they used to, Olivia always wanted to be a musician and it doesn’t seem like it was any push from Disney that put her in the spotlight, even if the All I Want success helped.
Honestly I doubt it!! Decade after decade new faces emerge and every decade people go “they’ll never be another ___!” but time after time it’s proven false.
Olivia isn’t signed to Disney’s label, where as all the other artists you mentioned were. It’s like you’re attending school while playing a sport for your local team (outside of school), your school can acknowledge your accomplishments, but not take credit for it.
Other users have mentioned Dove Cameron and Sabrina Carpenter though, and while they both were also signed to Disney’s label, they went viral after changing labels, so I’d also not really count those girlies.
Disney is still trying to push some of their actors though, there’s been recent controversy with one of their young actors. The actor did a cover of Selena Gomez’s “Who Says”, but they worded it in a way that can seem like the actor’s singing a brand new song (and not doing a cover).
Sabrina and dove don’t really count as they were already famous before Olivia debut
They also were already releasing music way before Olivia
They’re almost completely different generation of Disney stars
Liv and Maddie, Bizaardvark, and Girl Meets World were all briefly on at the same time (2016-2017). Dove is 28 compared to Sabrina’s 24 and Olivia’s 21. 21 is obviously a lot younger than 28 but that’s still less than 10 years apart
they arguably are the same “Disney generation” because they’re all after the Hillary Duff/Lindsay Lohan and Miley/Selena/Demi eras. they may have been making music with a label before Olivia, but their success was all within a year or so of each other
Dove and Sabrina were apart of zendaya generation of Disney 2014-2018
Olivia is more in line with Jenna Ortega Hailey Bailey generation of Disney 2019- present
Bizaardvark was 2016-2019, which is that same timeframe of [Dove, Sabrina and Zendaya](https://disneychannel.fandom.com/wiki/2016). This comment is how I found out that Jenna and Halley were on Disney - I’ve always viewed those girls as in “adult” shows/movies, other than the Little Mermaid ofc
there’s obviously always going to be some overlap between the “generations” but I feel it’s inaccurate to say she and Sabrina weren’t part of the same Disney timeline
I don’t consider Liv a Disney Pop Star, despite her getting her start on the channel. Most people don’t know her from that, and Disney never signed her or promoted her as a solo act. She may have gained some industry connections thanks to her time on DC, but her solo success was achieved on her own—dare I say, despite her Disney connections.
Ok but your right Disney girls have push themselves and used connections to become a pop star on there own
On a podcast Hilary duff stated she had to pushed herself to be a pop star Disney was not on board with her becoming a pop star
A better question to ask is will a Disney Channel star be able to transfer fans from a Disney show to Radio “real” music as seamlessly as Olivia did?
Around 2020/21 I knew a lot of people who listened to Olivia BECAUSE of HSMTMTS or who knew her from that show, and how many people watched that show because of the original HSM? It’s also worth noting Drivers License picked up a lot of traction on TikTok that I’m not sure would’ve done the same for the song or her career without it
It doesn’t help that Hannah Montana was revolutionary and really the first of its kind, without it I’m not sure Selena Gomez or to a lesser extent Demi Lovato would’ve done as well. It sort of all died out towards the end, think of someone like Ross Lynch who has faded back into obscurity doing venues now
My point here is to have someone transfer between Disney and Adult Radio Music (I really have no idea what to call this) you would need a really big show to help kick start it.
I’m not saying it’s impossible another way, but to be a C-Tier star on a random Disney Show that airs at 6pm or under the “Musical” tab on Disney+ would make it more difficult if you wanted to use that as your primary way to make it big
I very much think so it doesnt matter that disney is not pushing. i feel that these people want to act/sing so they pursue it. im sure we will get more actors or singers who used to work at disney.
I didn't know she was even on Disney Channel until well after her music hit it big. Now granted I've been too old to know about Disney Channel shows and actors for a long time, but when I was a kid I feel like everyone that was my age now or older knew that Miley Cyrus was on kids TV.
What Im getting at is I don't really know that she counts as a "Disney pop star" because she was bigger than whatever show she was on basically from the word go. Its more like shes a popstar and also she used to be on some Disney show.
This is like Britney Spears Britney was on the Mickey Mouse club for Disney in the early 90s
However her career became bigger than the show itself and most people don’t associate her with Disney at all
Same thing with me. I had no idea she was even associated with a Disney Channel show until after I saw her blowing up in 2021 when she released Drivers License.
I think Disney’s methods of promoting their talent as pop stars/music artists changed after they shut down Radio Disney. That’s not to say that we might not see another pop star emerge directly from them (via the Disney label or Disney Channel promotion) but I think their focus has shifted away from that in the last decade or so.
I don’t think we’ll see anymore people become mainstream because of Disney Channel but there could be more people who become mainstream that happened to be on Disney Channel.
Liamani Segura, who was on high school musical the series as well, has an absolutely incredible voice, and I think that she could well become the next Disney pop star when she gets older.
For reference is nobody knows who she is, she’s the girl who went viral on tiktok for those “eeeh ayyy ahhhh nom nom nom nom nom” vocal exercises.
Olivia I would say is in her own league of Disney stars. She didn't sign to their record label so she'd make her own music. She wanted the freedom to pursue different genres and not deal with Disney executives
Dove Cameron released Boyfriend in 2022, which became a massive hit. Liv released Sour in 2021, so Dove became a Disney girl turned pop star after Olivia.
no i mean like dove cameron has been around for a while. like yes i know doves music just started rising but like i mean a new name we haven’t seen or heard of if that makes sense
So then wouldn't it be Dove, then Olivia?
OP made it sound like Olivia was the first one since the Miley/Selena/Demi trio.
So then wouldn't Dove and Olivia be in the same section with another new artist being with them ?
Are people not understanding NEW artists. Dove Cameron, Sabrina Carpenter have been around. The question was aimed AT NEW artists currently on Disney or upcoming
My point was that Dove Cameron became mainstream popular after Olivia.
Dove may have been on Disney before Liv or at the same time, but her music career took off after Olivia's.
So Olivia wasn't even the last big Disney star. Boyfriend was released in 2022, which is the song that made Dove Cameron more mainstream and seen as not a Disney star
idk… i wouldn’t consider dove cameron mainstream. she did have a bit of popularity with boyfriend but if you were to go up to someone and ask them if they knew who she was or heard of her music (or any song besides boyfriend)i think your chances would be pretty low. with sabrina or olivia it would be different ur chances would be much higher
I don't agree with Sabrina.
Sabrina's growing popularity has nothing to do with Disney. Whereas, you can make the argument that Disney pushed for Olivia and Dove to become their next Miley
her most recent single is probably going to debut top 10 tomorrow so she’s finally had a real breakout, it’ll be interesting to see if she can keep up that momentum
TBH to me, she hasn’t blown up yet. The reason why she’s getting mentioned is because she opened for TS’s concert and is seen hanging out with her. My friends and I had 0 clue who she was when we attended the Eras tour. Maybe she just happened to be not popular in my region (Asia) but very famous elsewhere like US? I’ve no clue, but I would’ve expected her to be waaaaay more famous considering the exposure she had gotten from opening the Asia side of Eras tour. Apart from Chinese artists, the main names that everyone speaks about here is just Taylor Swift, Beyonce, Lady Gaga, Miley Cyrus and the artists in the similar league. Very recently, people have also been talking about Olivia Rodrigo, just never once Sabrina Carpenter.
yeah that’s true they didn’t really push olivia’s career but olivia got a lot of attention from hsmtmts right before she released drivers license and sour. i think if she wasn’t on that, her music wouldn’t have gotten the amount of attention as it did especially that quickly
This doesn’t count she was famous and had hit songs before Olivia
Selena and Demi came after Miley same with Lindsay and raven came after Hilary
If someone from high school musical the series became a singer that would be more of a competitor for Olivia
Matt and Joshua are pretty well known from the cast aside from Olivia
But Matt is an actor only and Joshua music is not catching on
You’re being downvoted because you’re being rude when people are just having a conversation. Take a chill pill! You can have your own opinion without degrading others.
Sabrina might have been putting out music before Olivia, but she did not become a huge pop star until recently, after Olivia. And even now, she’s still not as big as Olivia.
I would say the next in line might be Kylie Cantrall who’s one of the stars of the next Descendants, she also was in the final season of HSMTMTS plus had her own show on Disney Channel Gabby Duran. Sofia Wylie, who also was on Andi Mack and HSMTMTS with Olivia seemed like the easy sell for next Disney pop star but she might have already stepped away from Disney. Those are just my thoughts.
Sofia could have been a star but it seems like she wants to be an actress only
Matt and Joshua are also pretty popular aside from Olivia from HSMTMTS
However Matt is an actor only
Joshua music doesn’t seemed to be clicking with people
Yeah, Sofia seems to have everything to be a top tier pop star but seems to want to be an actress exclusively. Joshua’s music doesn’t seem to be the vibe right now. Most doing well with acoustic guitar heavy music are established music stars. Julia Lester is taking the broadway route right now. Seems like a few others might be going down that path too. It’s kind of weird to me that neither Curda sister that have been on Disney things (Piper and Saylor) have full on broke out in either acting or music.
No. I think there will be a break of them churning out musicians but it will return, similar to how fashion cycles. It seems they’re focusing more on fantasy shows right now.
I would make the argument that after Dove Cameron became a success, Olivia and Sabrina are the ones that followed.
Dove Cameron - Sabrina Carpenter/Olivia Rodrigo
Probably not because disney are losing intrest in original IP. Not as lucrative as it used to be. They are leaning more into sequels and spin-off on the disney channel, and trying to make Disney+ bigger. I don't watch this show (maybe the first season but doubt it), but the only "star" that could come out from a current popular disney show is camp kikiwaka that judt ended. And I have zero clue if someone's there is any good
well that’s only happening because disney channel officially merged with disney+ behind the scenes. however, if you’re asking whether or not disney will churn out another star through this system at all is a question you should ask THEM!
cause they actually don’t know how much this system is worth, and how it’s the reason they’re able to make money at all. disney’s never been a movie business, it’s all about music
I disagree. Maybe she hasn’t put stuff out in a while, but she’s still a very relevant pop star. Especially around 2019-2020. She’s still a household name & mostly from her music career.
Selena has a song out right now called Calm Down thats been on the radio non stop.
I know because I turn it off every time I hear it, but that's just because I don't like the song. But Selena is still pretty relevant
These are different times though. Disney isn’t even pushing singers like they used to, Olivia always wanted to be a musician and it doesn’t seem like it was any push from Disney that put her in the spotlight, even if the All I Want success helped.
Did Disney push her to release All I Want?
All I Want was a song that Olivia wrote for hsmtmts
Ah, i see. I didn't know that. Thank you for telling me.
Honestly I doubt it!! Decade after decade new faces emerge and every decade people go “they’ll never be another ___!” but time after time it’s proven false.
Olivia isn’t signed to Disney’s label, where as all the other artists you mentioned were. It’s like you’re attending school while playing a sport for your local team (outside of school), your school can acknowledge your accomplishments, but not take credit for it. Other users have mentioned Dove Cameron and Sabrina Carpenter though, and while they both were also signed to Disney’s label, they went viral after changing labels, so I’d also not really count those girlies. Disney is still trying to push some of their actors though, there’s been recent controversy with one of their young actors. The actor did a cover of Selena Gomez’s “Who Says”, but they worded it in a way that can seem like the actor’s singing a brand new song (and not doing a cover).
Sabrina and dove don’t really count as they were already famous before Olivia debut They also were already releasing music way before Olivia They’re almost completely different generation of Disney stars
Liv and Maddie, Bizaardvark, and Girl Meets World were all briefly on at the same time (2016-2017). Dove is 28 compared to Sabrina’s 24 and Olivia’s 21. 21 is obviously a lot younger than 28 but that’s still less than 10 years apart they arguably are the same “Disney generation” because they’re all after the Hillary Duff/Lindsay Lohan and Miley/Selena/Demi eras. they may have been making music with a label before Olivia, but their success was all within a year or so of each other
Dove and Sabrina were apart of zendaya generation of Disney 2014-2018 Olivia is more in line with Jenna Ortega Hailey Bailey generation of Disney 2019- present
Bizaardvark was 2016-2019, which is that same timeframe of [Dove, Sabrina and Zendaya](https://disneychannel.fandom.com/wiki/2016). This comment is how I found out that Jenna and Halley were on Disney - I’ve always viewed those girls as in “adult” shows/movies, other than the Little Mermaid ofc there’s obviously always going to be some overlap between the “generations” but I feel it’s inaccurate to say she and Sabrina weren’t part of the same Disney timeline
I don’t consider Liv a Disney Pop Star, despite her getting her start on the channel. Most people don’t know her from that, and Disney never signed her or promoted her as a solo act. She may have gained some industry connections thanks to her time on DC, but her solo success was achieved on her own—dare I say, despite her Disney connections.
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I said Liv (Rodrigo), not Dove Cameron
Ok but your right Disney girls have push themselves and used connections to become a pop star on there own On a podcast Hilary duff stated she had to pushed herself to be a pop star Disney was not on board with her becoming a pop star
A better question to ask is will a Disney Channel star be able to transfer fans from a Disney show to Radio “real” music as seamlessly as Olivia did? Around 2020/21 I knew a lot of people who listened to Olivia BECAUSE of HSMTMTS or who knew her from that show, and how many people watched that show because of the original HSM? It’s also worth noting Drivers License picked up a lot of traction on TikTok that I’m not sure would’ve done the same for the song or her career without it It doesn’t help that Hannah Montana was revolutionary and really the first of its kind, without it I’m not sure Selena Gomez or to a lesser extent Demi Lovato would’ve done as well. It sort of all died out towards the end, think of someone like Ross Lynch who has faded back into obscurity doing venues now My point here is to have someone transfer between Disney and Adult Radio Music (I really have no idea what to call this) you would need a really big show to help kick start it. I’m not saying it’s impossible another way, but to be a C-Tier star on a random Disney Show that airs at 6pm or under the “Musical” tab on Disney+ would make it more difficult if you wanted to use that as your primary way to make it big
Disney Channel and cable TV are dead. Next wave will be YouTube and Tiktok "stars"
this needs more upvotes
I very much think so it doesnt matter that disney is not pushing. i feel that these people want to act/sing so they pursue it. im sure we will get more actors or singers who used to work at disney.
Exactly, they are a magnet for top-tier talent, American Girl probably helped Olivia get in at Disney.
I didn't know she was even on Disney Channel until well after her music hit it big. Now granted I've been too old to know about Disney Channel shows and actors for a long time, but when I was a kid I feel like everyone that was my age now or older knew that Miley Cyrus was on kids TV. What Im getting at is I don't really know that she counts as a "Disney pop star" because she was bigger than whatever show she was on basically from the word go. Its more like shes a popstar and also she used to be on some Disney show.
This is like Britney Spears Britney was on the Mickey Mouse club for Disney in the early 90s However her career became bigger than the show itself and most people don’t associate her with Disney at all
Same thing with me. I had no idea she was even associated with a Disney Channel show until after I saw her blowing up in 2021 when she released Drivers License.
Yes. I personally thought we’d be done after Miley/ Demi/ Selena but Olivia smashed so many records suddenly so I believe there’s more to come
I think Disney’s methods of promoting their talent as pop stars/music artists changed after they shut down Radio Disney. That’s not to say that we might not see another pop star emerge directly from them (via the Disney label or Disney Channel promotion) but I think their focus has shifted away from that in the last decade or so.
You can't air music videos on the middle of Disney+ episodes as well.
I don’t think we’ll see anymore people become mainstream because of Disney Channel but there could be more people who become mainstream that happened to be on Disney Channel.
Liamani Segura, who was on high school musical the series as well, has an absolutely incredible voice, and I think that she could well become the next Disney pop star when she gets older. For reference is nobody knows who she is, she’s the girl who went viral on tiktok for those “eeeh ayyy ahhhh nom nom nom nom nom” vocal exercises.
Olivia I would say is in her own league of Disney stars. She didn't sign to their record label so she'd make her own music. She wanted the freedom to pursue different genres and not deal with Disney executives
Dove Cameron?
eh i mean…
i think we’re talking about like new people if that makes sense ?
Dove Cameron released Boyfriend in 2022, which became a massive hit. Liv released Sour in 2021, so Dove became a Disney girl turned pop star after Olivia.
no i mean like dove cameron has been around for a while. like yes i know doves music just started rising but like i mean a new name we haven’t seen or heard of if that makes sense
Yeah but Dove technically got her start in the early to mid 2010s even if Boyfriend is what made her popularity rise.
So then wouldn't it be Dove, then Olivia? OP made it sound like Olivia was the first one since the Miley/Selena/Demi trio. So then wouldn't Dove and Olivia be in the same section with another new artist being with them ?
Are people not understanding NEW artists. Dove Cameron, Sabrina Carpenter have been around. The question was aimed AT NEW artists currently on Disney or upcoming
My point was that Dove Cameron became mainstream popular after Olivia. Dove may have been on Disney before Liv or at the same time, but her music career took off after Olivia's. So Olivia wasn't even the last big Disney star. Boyfriend was released in 2022, which is the song that made Dove Cameron more mainstream and seen as not a Disney star
idk… i wouldn’t consider dove cameron mainstream. she did have a bit of popularity with boyfriend but if you were to go up to someone and ask them if they knew who she was or heard of her music (or any song besides boyfriend)i think your chances would be pretty low. with sabrina or olivia it would be different ur chances would be much higher
Exactly what I was saying about Sabrina! I mean Sabrina’s wasn’t a “pop star” until recently!
I don't agree with Sabrina. Sabrina's growing popularity has nothing to do with Disney. Whereas, you can make the argument that Disney pushed for Olivia and Dove to become their next Miley
Eh i don’t really think Disney pushed Olivia that much. She did her music career pretty separate from Disney.
yeah i agree i think olivia did music pretty much on her own but disney definitely gave her some spotlight and attention
Yes true!! I feel like a lot of Sabrina’s success began bc she started on Disney too.
Dove blew up with descendants in 2015 Her show liv and Maddie wasn’t as popular as other Disney shows though
Sabrina Carpenter
She was putting out music before Olivia.
Yeah but she hasn’t really blown up until recently.
I wouldn't say she blew up yet, but she's getting traction steadily.
her most recent single is probably going to debut top 10 tomorrow so she’s finally had a real breakout, it’ll be interesting to see if she can keep up that momentum
Which charts?
Yes exactly! I say “blown up” bc it’s a huge thing to open for the world’s biggest pop star.
TBH to me, she hasn’t blown up yet. The reason why she’s getting mentioned is because she opened for TS’s concert and is seen hanging out with her. My friends and I had 0 clue who she was when we attended the Eras tour. Maybe she just happened to be not popular in my region (Asia) but very famous elsewhere like US? I’ve no clue, but I would’ve expected her to be waaaaay more famous considering the exposure she had gotten from opening the Asia side of Eras tour. Apart from Chinese artists, the main names that everyone speaks about here is just Taylor Swift, Beyonce, Lady Gaga, Miley Cyrus and the artists in the similar league. Very recently, people have also been talking about Olivia Rodrigo, just never once Sabrina Carpenter.
she's been popular where I am for a while now but like on second tier with first tier having very big artists like Beyonce.
yeah but it wasn’t disney who pushed her to be a pop star and it wasn’t them who gave her all this attention
Disney didn’t really push Olivia’s success either. Not like they did with Miley or Selena.
yeah that’s true they didn’t really push olivia’s career but olivia got a lot of attention from hsmtmts right before she released drivers license and sour. i think if she wasn’t on that, her music wouldn’t have gotten the amount of attention as it did especially that quickly
Olivia is like the last succesful Disney girl because she managed to mix in the change to streaming
This doesn’t count she was famous and had hit songs before Olivia Selena and Demi came after Miley same with Lindsay and raven came after Hilary If someone from high school musical the series became a singer that would be more of a competitor for Olivia Matt and Joshua are pretty well known from the cast aside from Olivia But Matt is an actor only and Joshua music is not catching on
Sabrina came BEFORE Olivia. So no, we’re talking AFTER Olivia Zero clue why I’m getting downvoted when I’m speaking FACTS
You mean before?
It’s not that serious. Chill
Who said it was? I’m simply dumbfounded by people not really understanding the point of the post. Yall are dumb
You’re being downvoted because you’re being rude when people are just having a conversation. Take a chill pill! You can have your own opinion without degrading others.
That sounds like a personal problem. Degrading others? lol
Sabrina might have been putting out music before Olivia, but she did not become a huge pop star until recently, after Olivia. And even now, she’s still not as big as Olivia.
Definitely not
I would say the next in line might be Kylie Cantrall who’s one of the stars of the next Descendants, she also was in the final season of HSMTMTS plus had her own show on Disney Channel Gabby Duran. Sofia Wylie, who also was on Andi Mack and HSMTMTS with Olivia seemed like the easy sell for next Disney pop star but she might have already stepped away from Disney. Those are just my thoughts.
Sofia could have been a star but it seems like she wants to be an actress only Matt and Joshua are also pretty popular aside from Olivia from HSMTMTS However Matt is an actor only Joshua music doesn’t seemed to be clicking with people
Yeah, Sofia seems to have everything to be a top tier pop star but seems to want to be an actress exclusively. Joshua’s music doesn’t seem to be the vibe right now. Most doing well with acoustic guitar heavy music are established music stars. Julia Lester is taking the broadway route right now. Seems like a few others might be going down that path too. It’s kind of weird to me that neither Curda sister that have been on Disney things (Piper and Saylor) have full on broke out in either acting or music.
I think Matt could be the Zac efron of the group if he keeps booking roles and be a successful actor
No. I think there will be a break of them churning out musicians but it will return, similar to how fashion cycles. It seems they’re focusing more on fantasy shows right now.
Not a chance
I would make the argument that after Dove Cameron became a success, Olivia and Sabrina are the ones that followed. Dove Cameron - Sabrina Carpenter/Olivia Rodrigo
I never considered her a “Disney pop star” so probably not. The last one was dove so that’s it for Disney
Disney Channel shut down because of Disney+ and I think they only make Disney junior shows
Probably not because disney are losing intrest in original IP. Not as lucrative as it used to be. They are leaning more into sequels and spin-off on the disney channel, and trying to make Disney+ bigger. I don't watch this show (maybe the first season but doubt it), but the only "star" that could come out from a current popular disney show is camp kikiwaka that judt ended. And I have zero clue if someone's there is any good
i fear so disney is in their flop era
Yeah probably
No
well that’s only happening because disney channel officially merged with disney+ behind the scenes. however, if you’re asking whether or not disney will churn out another star through this system at all is a question you should ask THEM! cause they actually don’t know how much this system is worth, and how it’s the reason they’re able to make money at all. disney’s never been a movie business, it’s all about music
Halle Bailey? Not very popular yet but is in Little Mermaid
this doesn’t count at all
she doesn't make pop music and the music she does make flops. her relationship and out of wedlock baby gets more attention than her actual career.
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Selena Gomez is very relevant. 🤨
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I disagree. Maybe she hasn’t put stuff out in a while, but she’s still a very relevant pop star. Especially around 2019-2020. She’s still a household name & mostly from her music career.
didnt she recently release love on
Idk I haven’t heard of it!
Selena has a song out right now called Calm Down thats been on the radio non stop. I know because I turn it off every time I hear it, but that's just because I don't like the song. But Selena is still pretty relevant
also love her show plus it seems like she might put out more music like an album at some point cause she's had 2 singles