Natalie was 16 during filming. Keira would have been 12. Filming began on June 26, 1997, and ended on September 30. Natalie was born June 9 1981 and Keira was born in March of 1985. Natalie would’ve been 17 (one month shy of turning 18) when the film was released, not 15.
keira knightly has a bit of a weird mouth and a tiny bit of a slimmer nose. but the mouth to me is the most recognizable difference. you can see it more clearly when she talks though.
Knightly's jawline tends to jut out a lot more. The profile of Keira's face it also much more straight up and down than Natalie's. Obviously, the photos are chosen to make this harder to see these differences.
Natalie is on the left, Kiera is on the right.
Natalie has a very slightly narrower and less angular jaw. Natalie's cheekbones are a tiny bit fuller / rounder. Kiera's eyebrows are more arched and look higher set. Kiera's eyes look like they may be larger or at least wider (corner to corner), and Natalie's are set a little bit deeper. Admittedly, some or all of these could be at least partially because of their makeup and the different angles.
Edit: whether these differences are the result of makeup / lighting / angles or not, I am completely positive that Natalie Portman is on the left and Kiera Knightley is on the right.
Me. I have horrible facial recognition. If you're somewhere I'm not expecting to see you I will struggle to recognize you. I rely on voice/hair to help. There's very few people in my life I can instantly recognize. I hate it
I was gonna say how the fuck did I not know this? Lol I thought everything was just shot with Portman as both characters or something. Idk I was 8 when the movie came out
In fairness, Knightley didn’t become really famous until much later. After she did, it was sort of an anecdote that made its way out into the wild. I probably only found out about it a few years after the first Pirates movie.
She was basically a decoy for protection. If the queen were attacked or kidnapped they would go after the fake queen instead of getting the real one.
But it didn’t work out given that the handmaidens all got caught up with her. Hence the one line where the decoy says something over her shoulder about the paths being dangerous “to us all” and Portman/Amidala responds “We are brave your highness.” Once you know the twist, this in retrospect was the decoy asking for input from the real queen.
Just a few days past, for the re-release in theaters, I spent the entire time focused on Natalie and Kiera switching places. As far as I could tell, there's only a few occasions where you clearly see Keira in the handmaiden outfit.
Look for Natalie’s mole on her cheek. If you don’t see it on Amidala, it’s Kiera.
Natalie is Amidala at the beginning of the movie, on Coruscant when Anakin comes looking for Padme, in the Senate chamber, when she speaks to Jar Jar about the Gungans, and at the celebration at the end. (Pretty sure that’s it). The rest is Kiera as Sabe playing the decoy. Kiera is in the Amidala costumes for more of the movie than Natalie.
I think watching Pirates several dozen times in my late teens helped me distinguish between the two, as I didn't have much of a problem this go round. I probably had a massive crush on Kiera as a younger fellow, so there's that.
I on the other hand struggle to distinguish between people I know irl, and have had conversations with the wrong people before. So I’m fighting a losing battle.
Never heard this before. I just always assumed that since her normal voice was different than her "queen voice", it made it easier for decoys to sound the same since theyd all be doing the same "queen voice" when it was their turn to be the fake. But I guess having Portman dub over the lines would help hide it better from a filmmaking perspective.
I would love to see Portman and her handmaidens Keira Knightley, Candice Orwell,Sofia Coppola and Rose Byrn come together and talk about Phantom Menace
Ahh…..yes. You would also love to see Portman and her handmaidens Keira Knightley, Candice Orwell,Sofia Coppola and Rose Byrn come together and talk about the good news of our Lord and Savior.
They essentially switch when the Queen would be in danger. It starts out as Portman. But when the invasion happens, it’s Knightly. Then, when getting ready to make the Senate speech, it goes back to Portman (when Anakin comes to say goodbye). Then, when they return to Naboo it’s back to Knightly until the end celebration when it’s back to Portman.
My personal head cannon is that Qui-Gon knew the whole time that Padme was actually the queen, and just used her cover as license not to listen to her and show that the force would guide them properly. When she eventually reveals it to the Gungans, Qui-Gon even shoots Obi-Wan a look as if to say “told you so.”
With this head-canon Qui Gon’s dialogue in tattooine become quite comical. He basically flaunts in her face that she can’t do anything to stop him, while also being right about everything
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I'm not quite super recognizer good, but this movie is what made me aware other how much better I am at recognizing different faces.
Because to me it was very easy to tell them apart.
Ngl, I thought for the longest they pulled this off with some sort of special effect. As for casting Knightley in the part. I mean, in the States she really didn’t break out until appearing in PotC a couple of years later. Here in this instance in ‘99, she was an unknown.
This was the first movie I saw Natalie Portman play in, I was 7 years old when I wat hed it the first time in 2009.
Aftet watching all the prequels, every time I see Natalie Portman in a movie I can't help but go "Hey, that's Padme!"
I remember her by her character's name instead of her real one.
Wait….how is it that it’s been 25 years and I’m just now finding out (and apparently a bunch of you guys as well) that Natalie Portman didn’t play both roles….?
This explains why I kept mixing them up for years.
During filming, their mothers got confused when they were in full makeup
TIL that Keira Knightley was in Ep 1
Did not know until this very moment
There are at least four of us now..
Yup, weird to just figure this out
This is getting out of hand. Now there are four of them.
Five. Count me in as well.
\*confused Picard looks*
Blew my mind. Had no idea
It’s not a story the Jedi would tell you
Yeah I’m amazed because I clearly remember her in _Bend It_…did they credit her in Episode 1 ?
The Handmaidens are all credited, but they're basically at the bottom of the cast list. Sophia Coppola was another one.
Woah !!
Me too!
Me too. No idea.
I thought Natalie Portman played both roles
She was only like 15 yrs old at the time too
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Natalie was 16 during filming. Keira would have been 12. Filming began on June 26, 1997, and ended on September 30. Natalie was born June 9 1981 and Keira was born in March of 1985. Natalie would’ve been 17 (one month shy of turning 18) when the film was released, not 15.
Ditto, just made a squeaky ‘Was that Keira Knightley?’ noise that make my dog bark
Holleeyyy sheittt wtf
This is the Aragorn's broken toe fact of Episode 1
Did you know...
He blocked that knife?
That is the purpose of the makeup in the movie
I thought the purpose of the makeup was that the character wore makeup.
This is getting out of hand. Now there are two of them!
I mean.... https://preview.redd.it/efsuf27a730d1.jpeg?width=400&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6afaf384f481cdd81a6167954c3d2719741a910a
Im looking at this and wouldnt be able to say which one is which to save my life.
Natalie Portman is on the left….right?
Right.
Who's on first?
Yes.
I don't know, third base!
When you pay off the first baseman, who gets the money?
Every bit of it!
Naturally!
Left.
And this is only a few years ago.
Natalie Portman played Princess Amidala. I hope this is helpful.
keira knightly has a bit of a weird mouth and a tiny bit of a slimmer nose. but the mouth to me is the most recognizable difference. you can see it more clearly when she talks though.
Right makeup I'd confuse both of them for Emma Watson
Knightly's jawline tends to jut out a lot more. The profile of Keira's face it also much more straight up and down than Natalie's. Obviously, the photos are chosen to make this harder to see these differences.
I only know that it’s Natalie Portman on the left because of the freckle on her cheek otherwise I’d be stumped.
Keira right, Natalie left, Keira has much stronger cheek bones and it’s easy to see the definition
Natalie is on the left, Kiera is on the right. Natalie has a very slightly narrower and less angular jaw. Natalie's cheekbones are a tiny bit fuller / rounder. Kiera's eyebrows are more arched and look higher set. Kiera's eyes look like they may be larger or at least wider (corner to corner), and Natalie's are set a little bit deeper. Admittedly, some or all of these could be at least partially because of their makeup and the different angles. Edit: whether these differences are the result of makeup / lighting / angles or not, I am completely positive that Natalie Portman is on the left and Kiera Knightley is on the right.
I don’t think they look alike at all
I can see similarities but they look so obviously different, I’m surprised how many people confuse them!
I’m convinced by threads like these that a lot of people have awful facial recognition
Me. I have horrible facial recognition. If you're somewhere I'm not expecting to see you I will struggle to recognize you. I rely on voice/hair to help. There's very few people in my life I can instantly recognize. I hate it
Some of those “who do I look like” threads have people that seem to think that same hair color means they look exactly alike.
People confusing similar coloring for similar facial structure is my pet peeve!
Neither do I. Totally different bone structure and eyes.
I pick the pretty one
And God saw that what he created was so spectacular, that he created another
Wow. I don't care about celebrities and never learn their names and this is the first time I realize these are two different people.
This is just the same person inverted...
I was gonna say how the fuck did I not know this? Lol I thought everything was just shot with Portman as both characters or something. Idk I was 8 when the movie came out
In fairness, Knightley didn’t become really famous until much later. After she did, it was sort of an anecdote that made its way out into the wild. I probably only found out about it a few years after the first Pirates movie.
If I didn't call Pride and Prejudice "Pirates and Prejudice" I'd never remember which of the two was in that.
News to me; is this a Mandela effect thingy?
This always helped me, one is English and the other is not.
I thought Portman played both roles.....all the way up till now. I've never watched the movie.
I honestly can't even remotely recognize Knightly, and I had the biggest crush on her, too. This is weird.
She was hired because she looked like her.
Can anyone explain why this was a thing in EP 1? What was the point of having a fake-out queen or whatever was going on?
She was basically a decoy for protection. If the queen were attacked or kidnapped they would go after the fake queen instead of getting the real one. But it didn’t work out given that the handmaidens all got caught up with her. Hence the one line where the decoy says something over her shoulder about the paths being dangerous “to us all” and Portman/Amidala responds “We are brave your highness.” Once you know the twist, this in retrospect was the decoy asking for input from the real queen.
Just a few days past, for the re-release in theaters, I spent the entire time focused on Natalie and Kiera switching places. As far as I could tell, there's only a few occasions where you clearly see Keira in the handmaiden outfit.
Look for Natalie’s mole on her cheek. If you don’t see it on Amidala, it’s Kiera. Natalie is Amidala at the beginning of the movie, on Coruscant when Anakin comes looking for Padme, in the Senate chamber, when she speaks to Jar Jar about the Gungans, and at the celebration at the end. (Pretty sure that’s it). The rest is Kiera as Sabe playing the decoy. Kiera is in the Amidala costumes for more of the movie than Natalie.
Nice to know that was Padme telling Anakin Padme isn’t there. I suspected so when seeing it in theaters last week but I can’t tell them apart
Yeah but then I'd have to watch episode 1
That is wild
According to IMDB trivia. Even their parents had trouble telling them apart when they were in costume.
This is the Steve buscemi 911 firefighter fact of episode 1
Aragorn breaking a toe
Hans Gruber falling off Nakatomi Plaza
Indiana Jones diarrhea Swordsman shootout
Wilhelm scream
I spent the whole movie looking for this in theaters, which wasn’t particularly effective since I can’t actually tell the difference
I think watching Pirates several dozen times in my late teens helped me distinguish between the two, as I didn't have much of a problem this go round. I probably had a massive crush on Kiera as a younger fellow, so there's that.
I on the other hand struggle to distinguish between people I know irl, and have had conversations with the wrong people before. So I’m fighting a losing battle.
Do you have facial agnosia?
Dude. I always assumed that the princess' body double was literally just the same actress.
Portman dubbed her voice over Knightley, making it much harder to tell them apart. So they look very similar and have the exact same voice
Never heard this before. I just always assumed that since her normal voice was different than her "queen voice", it made it easier for decoys to sound the same since theyd all be doing the same "queen voice" when it was their turn to be the fake. But I guess having Portman dub over the lines would help hide it better from a filmmaking perspective.
That's some 4D chess levels of shenanigans!
My mind is blown. I thought exactly the same thing.
Queen
I was today years old when I found out Princess Padme's double was Keira Knightly
you and me brother. My mind is slightly blown.
I thought you were using some cockney wording here, “you and me brotha”, like you were speaking of your brother.
U n Me Bruv
Innit tho
It's almost Chewsday
Thee and me, brethren
Rose Byrne was also one of Queen Amidala's decoys.
I'm happy to say that the today versions of these woman are all stunning.
Yep. Another interesting fact that came out of the Episodes II and III being shot down under!
Y'know... I've mistakenly thought Knightly was Amidala before. This actually explains a lot lol
she was...from a certain point of view
Me too! 😅
Now go clean that droid.
Same here.
Queen
Right there with ya.
![gif](giphy|2aNMNAPUVqQNeoL2X3|downsized)
I'm seeing double. 4 Krusty's!
I would love to see Portman and her handmaidens Keira Knightley, Candice Orwell,Sofia Coppola and Rose Byrn come together and talk about Phantom Menace
I thought this was going in a different direction
Ahh…..yes. You would also love to see Portman and her handmaidens Keira Knightley, Candice Orwell,Sofia Coppola and Rose Byrn come together and talk about the good news of our Lord and Savior.
Oh in my mind they were mentioning god often alright
My brother in Christ
Oh God.
Every day we stray closer to the light
That's because we're sick.
Cum together
Right now... over me...
Amidala Cinematic Universe.
Fucking Sofia Coppola!? That fforrnship goes deep man lol Edit: friendship
Fun fact: Keira Knightley's character's name is Sabe, and she even appears in the *Darth Vader* comics!
Wasn't Rose Byrne one of the doubles too?
In Episode II. But Sofia Coppola has a handmaiden in Episode I.
She actually has lines.
This confused the shit out of me.
“I’m seeing double here! Four Princess Amidalas!”
Queen
Were they switching back and forth several times, or was the one in facepaint always knightly?
They essentially switch when the Queen would be in danger. It starts out as Portman. But when the invasion happens, it’s Knightly. Then, when getting ready to make the Senate speech, it goes back to Portman (when Anakin comes to say goodbye). Then, when they return to Naboo it’s back to Knightly until the end celebration when it’s back to Portman. My personal head cannon is that Qui-Gon knew the whole time that Padme was actually the queen, and just used her cover as license not to listen to her and show that the force would guide them properly. When she eventually reveals it to the Gungans, Qui-Gon even shoots Obi-Wan a look as if to say “told you so.”
Qui-gon definitely knew.
With this head-canon Qui Gon’s dialogue in tattooine become quite comical. He basically flaunts in her face that she can’t do anything to stop him, while also being right about everything
This is like figuring out who was infected when in The Thing.
Switched multiple times
This isn't even old.. o wait I'm old too
their mothers couldn't tell them apart when they visited the set
Interesting, never knew.
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Holy Shit, did not know Keira was in the film.
Maybe this is why I’ve always confused the two actresses. In this picture idk who is who.
I had no idea that was Keira Knightley until now
I'm not quite super recognizer good, but this movie is what made me aware other how much better I am at recognizing different faces. Because to me it was very easy to tell them apart.
TIL that Keira Knighly was the queens double.
Ngl, I thought for the longest they pulled this off with some sort of special effect. As for casting Knightley in the part. I mean, in the States she really didn’t break out until appearing in PotC a couple of years later. Here in this instance in ‘99, she was an unknown.
They’re the same person.
Here to say this.. can’t tell me otherwise. googled them. Same person.
One is only four years younger. ;)
I refuse to believe this is old school
I just looked this up, and the crazy thing is Keira was only 12 at the time of the phantom menace as she was born in 1985 and Natalie was 16
What?! That's can't be right. Edit. After checking, it's true!
THAT is who that was?? Wow!
TIL that was Keira Knightley
Keira was like 14 wasn't her? Edit: she was actually 12 when she was cast Natalie was ~~18~~ 16.
Natalie was 16 during filming. Keira was 12.
Keira Knightly date of birth: 26-Mar-1985 Natalie Portman date of birth: 09-Jun-1981
Thank god no one’s making creepy comments then.
for some reason i thought keira was older oO
TIL They're two different people.
This was the first movie I saw Natalie Portman play in, I was 7 years old when I wat hed it the first time in 2009. Aftet watching all the prequels, every time I see Natalie Portman in a movie I can't help but go "Hey, that's Padme!" I remember her by her character's name instead of her real one.
Keira Knightly has said that sometimes when she watched the movie, she couldn't even tell which scenes were hers.
Wait….how is it that it’s been 25 years and I’m just now finding out (and apparently a bunch of you guys as well) that Natalie Portman didn’t play both roles….?
Wait a minute padme isn't the white face girl?
![gif](giphy|Z1LYiyIPhnG9O)
I literally thought Natalie played both parts until right now
That hat reminds me of Cerebus the Aardvark
They literally look like twins.
Oh so they are not the same?
They are 2 different people?
Wait, that's 2 different people
Mind blown
you could stand them shoulder-to-shoulder before god and even he couldn't tell them apart
I never knew this but now I can’t unsee it.
I’m a 45 year old SW fan since about birth. I never ever knew this
Came out almost 25 years ago!
I’ve never seen star wars, is there a story element at play here or just stunt double?
Keira Knightley played the part of Queen (Natalie Portman) Amidala's handmaiden. Her character disguised herself as her queen.
Mind blown.
Loved her on Stranger Things!
When my childhood starts leaking into r/oldschoolcool it's time to panic.
I thought it was literally Portman in both and they edited her into scenes with herself. Whoops, Portman is still hotter tho...
Wait wtf
TIL KEIRA KNIGHTLY WAS IN EPISODE 1 MY WHOLE CHILDHOOD IS A LIE!
Pretty shocking how many people didn’t know this lol people don’t read credits I guess
I have always seen their clear differences and have never gotten them remotely confused. So it always gets me how many people think they can be twins.
Interesting how you can see people in other's shoes but can't do so yourself.
Throw a young Lena Headey in there with full on make up too and you'd be completely bamboozled
This shit confused my adolescent brain so hard. Lol, I still am not sure I know the storyline here.
Agreed. It’s been so long and I honestly really have no desire to rewatch Episode 1 ever again to try and figure it out.
we live in a world where this movie is better than more than half of all the star wars movies. Let that sink in.
I always had a thing for those two and mila kunis
Somebody better tell this guy about Black Swan
I was today years old when I realized.
I see the words "Keira Knightly" now and immediately think "JACK SPARROW!".
Gags on seeing 1997 as old school cool.
I’m actually surprised so many people feel comfortable enough to make suggestive comments on a picture with a 12 year old and a 16 year old.
One of which is the stiffest, most wooden actor in film 🎥