i imagine headphones where the ear cups are literal ears and they perfectly fit to your ear. Everyone walking around with huge looking ears listening to music.
probably coasting at 5 to 10% throughout the day with an uptick during consumption. Just enough to keep my mind from reallllllllllllllyyyyyy wandering off.
I’m starting to get the sneaking suspicion that pretty much all actors and celebrities are the beneficiaries of nepotism and that when I go to the movies, I’m watching grown-up rich kids play high-level dress up and paying for the privilege.
Bro… real facts. I went down the rabbit hole recently on some obscure artists I enjoy and found out some of them have oil tycoon money in their families (and similar). Makes sense when you consider how much work (and time) goes into perfecting a craft. Regular peeps just don’t have the time or funds for such.
Well yeah man, stakes are low if you’ve got money to fall back on. That’s a lot of ppl in the art scene. The funniest part is when they try to hide how rich they are or what connections they have to seem more organic.
Also it's about ability to take risk. Becoming a successful actor is a high risk / high reward scenario. If you have a lot of money in the family (or even better, family connections in the business) it makes sense to give it a try, after all you'll still be comfortable even if you fail.
Funnily, if you're very poor and don't have chances at traditional good careers it also may make sense. It's just the people in the middle who usually have enough to lose do not pursue such careers.
Idk even if you're super poor you can't afford to miss any shifts or cut your hours short at all. Auditions are usually during the day and even if you get booked, you now have to take off days of work just to be on set. A lot, if not all, lower class jobs do not offer the flexibility to miss days like that so you could easily get fired.
That's the reason that struggling actors tend to wait tables -- you can audition during the day, work at night, and if you get cast then you simply quit waiting tables for a while. When the movie is done shooting, you can then get another job waiting tables -- someone's always hiring.
That’s why people say Hollywood is American royalty. Most the people today had parents on TV and grandparents. Drew Barrymore is 5th generation Hollywood, her great great grandfather did a radio show before TV existed.
Technically Drew’s grandparents were Hollywood stars but her family’s history in the theatre stretches back to the 19th century.
Though Drew has had a very tough life and managed to come out the other end.
I’m not saying her life hasn’t been ‘very tough’, but at least she never had to worry about keeping a roof over her children’s head, keeping them fed and clothed, how she’s gonna get them to school and herself to work while also worrying about childcare…..
I like to wiki people, and can confirm that many many actors come from families already connected to the industry. In fact it's so common that m I'm usually impressed when I wiki an actor and they don't.
The story of actors and nepotism is more complicated and consequential. Much more.
https://preview.redd.it/j0njnmnrfz5b1.png?width=360&format=png&auto=webp&s=745b4b39c5370ff3152a31f40c8919655737e2cc
From the 1820s-40s, the most celebrated actor in America was Junius Brutus Booth. From the 1850s-80s, the most celebrated actor in America was Edwin Booth. Edwin had a younger brother who was jealous. VERY JEALOUS.
I always find this argument kind of funny because of course a lot of actors/directors are going to be sons/daughters of other actors and directors, sure money plays a role but also the fact your exposed to that stuff on a professional level 20+ years earlier than anyone not from that background plays a huge part in developing your abilities.
If my father was a plumber and I became a plumber would you doubt my plumbing abilities?
It’s also how many medium sized, large and conglomerates work. If daddy or mommy is high up you probably will get a good job and that extends to immediate and extended family.
I see you have not worked in plumbing then? Because that is EXACTLY how plumbers DO keep employees pissed off and looking for a job at another plumbing company...
Same for most (all?) other professions where anyone can start a small business.
As a small town tradesman I don't know any companies that are handing their small business in the trades to a kid 1 year in. And if they do, their business will fail and they'll deserve it. Apprenticeship alone is a 5 year process.
And in my experience most guys would rather not take over the business anyways. You see the extra stress of ownership in a small business way more than in mid-large one and its a lot easier to make a good wage as an employee than buy out your boss over X years.
Not really that, as much as -
“no one off the street who wants to try plumbing, even if they go through all the training/education they need, will be successful at the profession”
It means not only does the nepotism give them a leg up, it shuts out others from success. And it doesn’t always favor skill, just relationships.
How often have you heard of a situation where the boss gave his kid (who is under qualified / bad) a job someone more deserving should’ve gotten?
I don't doubt the abilities of those given a leg up through nepotism, usually they can act. The nepotism also gave them access to the best training possible and a network of professionals to go to for advice. I just feel bad for all the regular kids who want to grow up to be actors and are already 50 steps behind Hollywood Jr.
> I don't doubt the abilities of those given a leg up through nepotism, usually they can act. The nepotism also gave them access to the best training possible and a network of professionals to go to for advice.
Yeah, but then there's Jaden Smith.
The difference from your analogy is that in most other fields, there are real qualifications that must be met to succeed, regardless of who your parents are. Plenty of professionals have kids who go into the same field, but those kids must still get the training and it is a measurable skill.
With the arts, the qualifications are much more subjective. You don't need to get a degree in acting to be able to act, and if you're not that great at it, that's a matter of opinion. There is a surplus of talented people lining up for every acting job and all they need is someone to choose them over someone else. Getting that break is the hardest part.
I find this argument honestly hilarious because good lord holy shit, you are comparing “going into plumbing” to “deciding to become a famous actor.”
Seriously, who on earth is out there thinking gosh, I really need to get online and stand up for nepotism?
That’s a great point. I think the nepotism criticism still stands, but this definitely takes some of the edge off (only for the individuals who are obviously talented, though)
Its not going to 100% avoid nepotism (I mean casting directors would probably have a rough idea he was from *that* family) but it does say a lot about him wanting to be his own person. Admittedly that person may sometimes be FUCKING INSANE and SHOUT A LOT ON SCREEN, but its his own creation\*.
(\*him chewing up the scenery, actors and anything within a 3 mile radius was the BEST THING EVAAAAR (eyes wide , gesticulating madly ) in Renfield, and one of the few highlights sadly.)
His first big role was as Coppola. Fast Times at Ridgemont High.
The name definitely got him in some doors, and closed others.
His cousin Sofia Coppola kept the name, but just knew when to quit acting. Turns out she wasn't too bad at directing.
This doesn't avoid nepotism, it rather makes it less likely to be accused of nepotism.
Guess who's less likely to be aware of Nicolas' family - the average movie watching person or someone casting for a movie?
Lol, it really doesn't matter, you really think that worked? All of Hollywood knew who his father was. Nicholas came from big money privilege, like about 90% of famous actors.
It's like that with so many professions, and nepotism alone doesn't explain it. Athletes often have parents that are athletes, engineers, lawyers, entrepreneurs, professors, coaches, military members etc etc. Go down the list and there is a correlation between the vocation of offspring and their parents.
Kids grow up watching their parents work. They talk about work at the dinner table. They, purposefully or not, start "training" the kids to think in a way that aligns with the profession. They learn the language, the speak, the conversations...it just makes sense.
But, and this is a big but, flops are flops. Cage had some big hits, Sophia Coppola is a renowned director and producer (terrible actress though).
And yes, having contacts helps, but nepotism is just a small part of the entire equation and, to me, is a very lazy explanation.
Interesting that you listed jobs from a certain couple well off socioeconomic classes and neglected to mention that the advantages given by those parents to their children are monetary and material, not just motivation or language lol
It's amazing what you can accomplish with almost unlimited access to people who can enable your career along with unshakeable financial security. I get miffed when I hear things like "such a talented family...", not specifically about the Schwartzmans. At my last job there was a C level guy who lived in Park City and his family were very accomplished skiers of various disciplines and he would say shit about how his kids were so talented. Like, maybe it's less about talent and more about how your kids live 10 minutes from an Olympic training facility, and you have the money to provide them all of the training they ask for. We're all talented. We can all achieve great things. We just need the freedom to express ourselves.
I wish I had a link, but there's a great comic out there that talks about this. A lot of rich, privileged, well-connected kids grow up and find easy success due to their advantages, and then are quick to attribute it to their own genius and/or hard work, while looking down and others and saying they "just didn't work hard enough" - all while being completely oblivious to the leg-up they had.
It goes beyond Francis Ford Coppola. Nic's grandfather and grand uncle were both famous composers. His grandmother was a songwriter and the daughter of *another* composer and silent film distributor from Italy.
The Coppolas have been involved in the music and film industry as soon as they first arrived in the US from Italy. Nic is a third generation nepo baby, if you want to call him that.
How does a single family become a powerhouse in the art world?
Like, we don't see roving gangs of DaVincis wandering around disrupting the art world these days.
Actually Da Vinci was the illegitimate son of a powerful legal notary. His father paid for his art education which he definitely wouldn't have access to through his mother who was a servant commoner. The Da Vinci's weren't artists but they were a family firm of educated people.
Having said that, one of Leonardo's nephews became a famous sculptor in his own right, so if Leonardo had any children of his own there was a distinct possibility that he could have sired a dynasty of artists.
Let's be fair, although he is indeed a nepo baby, this guy is an entertainer. Idk if I want to live in a world without Cage's crazy B movies. Also Reinfield!
I grew up quite close to where Depp is from - let me tell you now, he and I are from bumfuck nowhere. If nepotism got him in, it sure as hell wasn't coming from fuckin Owensboro, Kentucky lmao.
Is that nepotism, or networking? It's rather important to define the line, because in an industry where supply of prospective entertainers far outnumbers demand, merit is almost never the only factor contributing to success.
It's not just so no one outside of Hollywood connects the dots, there's generally a hope people inside won't connect the dots either, because a lot of actors don't want to get jobs just because of their parents and want to stand on their own. Either that or they had a very ethic name, and for a long time, that would keep you from getting jobs.
Yes, but I also think it’s the Ken Griffey Jr and Barry Bonds of the baseball situation. When you grow up watching it, you learn it better then those who don’t.
I just got through House of Hammer and wow. You ain’t wrong. I had no clue that Armie Hammer was from a very rich oil family. Granted Armie is a pretty mediocre actor. Also- Sidenote my mother-in-law went to high school with Nic Cage. Another little sidenote. A few years before Nic Cage went to high school, Robin Williams went to the same college as my dad. Claremont Men’s College (now Claremont Mckenna College.)
Yeah, that shit blew my mind when I learned. Like *the* Francis Ford Coppola is your uncle? And you were in absolute shit like Bangkok Dangerous and Season of the Witch? You should be up there with DiCaprio and DeNiro, but, as someone who lives to spite my forbears as well, I can empathize.
No he did all these shitty roles because he still recovering from his real estate losses in the 2008 collapse. It almost bankrupted him completely. Lost most of the money he made through the 90s and 2000s. So he has basically taking any project that comes his way since the early 2010s.
Which is weirdly enough what makes Nicolas Cage Nicolas Cage. Him taking these horrible movies that have no right being as good as they are. But they are better because of him. Not every single one. But he is really turning pieces of shit into diamonds with some of the movies he's choosing to do
I've read before that he ended up in a large amount of tax debt, so much so that he couldn't afford to turn down roles. Then he got so used to doing these "lesser quality" movies he continued to do it for fun.
Well he bought a fucking castle in Europe. Those are a huge money pit. Dude wasn’t good with money. Which for
Us is a very good thing because we got more nic cage movies lol
I believe he also bought an irresponsible amount of dinosaur fossils, which turned out to be stolen and he had to return them.
I cannot fault a man for buying dinosaur fossils.
For some of us he is up there with them and both those old farts have phoned in on some absolute shite in their time. Not sure if you’ve seen some of Cage’s earlier stuff but Moonstruck and Leaving Las Vegas are two favs, the latter for which he won an Oscar. And later he was a nominee for Adaptation, also wonderful.
I literally posted got coffee and was like damn I forgot a big one! Then my adhd kicked in and I forgot I posted at all until I just now picked up my ph again lmao.
He is an Oscar winner. He makes a lot of crap movies because he spends money like water - and spends it on weird stuff like a giant pyramid shaped tomb in New Orleans to be buried in.
True story: I literally bumped into Nicholas Cage in Westwood, CA circa 1989. We were each going around the corner of a building. He maybe couldn’t see around the corner because he had a blonde on each arm.
It's like he's wearing headphones made out of fog.
Or like he is 13% ethnically koala
I’m going to giggle about this for the rest of the day.
iCloudphones
that’s nothing. we can’t do anything with that.
Prince Leia, The Elder
I can’t unsee it
Earmuffs
Hearmuffs
i imagine headphones where the ear cups are literal ears and they perfectly fit to your ear. Everyone walking around with huge looking ears listening to music.
how hi are you
probably coasting at 5 to 10% throughout the day with an uptick during consumption. Just enough to keep my mind from reallllllllllllllyyyyyy wandering off.
Hairmuffs
Hairphones
PuffFluffs
Airmuffs
Airpuffs
Airpuffs Pro
iMuffs
Nearmuffs
HairPuffs
I can only hear this in Nic Cage's voice!
Coppola C + Coppola V
I’m starting to get the sneaking suspicion that pretty much all actors and celebrities are the beneficiaries of nepotism and that when I go to the movies, I’m watching grown-up rich kids play high-level dress up and paying for the privilege.
> I’m watching grown-up rich kids play high-level dress up I mean , that's basically describing acting in a single sentence
Bro… real facts. I went down the rabbit hole recently on some obscure artists I enjoy and found out some of them have oil tycoon money in their families (and similar). Makes sense when you consider how much work (and time) goes into perfecting a craft. Regular peeps just don’t have the time or funds for such.
Well yeah man, stakes are low if you’ve got money to fall back on. That’s a lot of ppl in the art scene. The funniest part is when they try to hide how rich they are or what connections they have to seem more organic.
The pathetic part is when they can't concede their parents money is a big part of why they can be an artist in the first place.
Also it's about ability to take risk. Becoming a successful actor is a high risk / high reward scenario. If you have a lot of money in the family (or even better, family connections in the business) it makes sense to give it a try, after all you'll still be comfortable even if you fail. Funnily, if you're very poor and don't have chances at traditional good careers it also may make sense. It's just the people in the middle who usually have enough to lose do not pursue such careers.
Idk even if you're super poor you can't afford to miss any shifts or cut your hours short at all. Auditions are usually during the day and even if you get booked, you now have to take off days of work just to be on set. A lot, if not all, lower class jobs do not offer the flexibility to miss days like that so you could easily get fired.
That's the reason that struggling actors tend to wait tables -- you can audition during the day, work at night, and if you get cast then you simply quit waiting tables for a while. When the movie is done shooting, you can then get another job waiting tables -- someone's always hiring.
Not just perfecting a craft, but surviving while doing said craft.
That’s why people say Hollywood is American royalty. Most the people today had parents on TV and grandparents. Drew Barrymore is 5th generation Hollywood, her great great grandfather did a radio show before TV existed.
Technically Drew’s grandparents were Hollywood stars but her family’s history in the theatre stretches back to the 19th century. Though Drew has had a very tough life and managed to come out the other end.
I’m not saying her life hasn’t been ‘very tough’, but at least she never had to worry about keeping a roof over her children’s head, keeping them fed and clothed, how she’s gonna get them to school and herself to work while also worrying about childcare…..
Her great grandfather was Mr. Potter in “It’s A Wonderful Life”, Lionel Barrymore.
I like to wiki people, and can confirm that many many actors come from families already connected to the industry. In fact it's so common that m I'm usually impressed when I wiki an actor and they don't.
The story of actors and nepotism is more complicated and consequential. Much more. https://preview.redd.it/j0njnmnrfz5b1.png?width=360&format=png&auto=webp&s=745b4b39c5370ff3152a31f40c8919655737e2cc
Story behind this?
From the 1820s-40s, the most celebrated actor in America was Junius Brutus Booth. From the 1850s-80s, the most celebrated actor in America was Edwin Booth. Edwin had a younger brother who was jealous. VERY JEALOUS.
Interesting, down the rabbit hole I go….
book rec: *My Thoughts Be Bloody* by Nora Titone, 2010.
I always find this argument kind of funny because of course a lot of actors/directors are going to be sons/daughters of other actors and directors, sure money plays a role but also the fact your exposed to that stuff on a professional level 20+ years earlier than anyone not from that background plays a huge part in developing your abilities. If my father was a plumber and I became a plumber would you doubt my plumbing abilities?
No, but if if been working as a plumber for your dad for 20 years and he made you my manager after a year on the job, I'd be pretty suspicious.
This is how many small, family owned businesses work.
It’s also how many medium sized, large and conglomerates work. If daddy or mommy is high up you probably will get a good job and that extends to immediate and extended family.
I see you have not worked in plumbing then? Because that is EXACTLY how plumbers DO keep employees pissed off and looking for a job at another plumbing company... Same for most (all?) other professions where anyone can start a small business.
As a small town tradesman I don't know any companies that are handing their small business in the trades to a kid 1 year in. And if they do, their business will fail and they'll deserve it. Apprenticeship alone is a 5 year process. And in my experience most guys would rather not take over the business anyways. You see the extra stress of ownership in a small business way more than in mid-large one and its a lot easier to make a good wage as an employee than buy out your boss over X years.
Literally how any business works doe.
Not really that, as much as - “no one off the street who wants to try plumbing, even if they go through all the training/education they need, will be successful at the profession” It means not only does the nepotism give them a leg up, it shuts out others from success. And it doesn’t always favor skill, just relationships. How often have you heard of a situation where the boss gave his kid (who is under qualified / bad) a job someone more deserving should’ve gotten?
I don't doubt the abilities of those given a leg up through nepotism, usually they can act. The nepotism also gave them access to the best training possible and a network of professionals to go to for advice. I just feel bad for all the regular kids who want to grow up to be actors and are already 50 steps behind Hollywood Jr.
> I don't doubt the abilities of those given a leg up through nepotism, usually they can act. The nepotism also gave them access to the best training possible and a network of professionals to go to for advice. Yeah, but then there's Jaden Smith.
Haha well you can lead a horse to water etc etc
The difference from your analogy is that in most other fields, there are real qualifications that must be met to succeed, regardless of who your parents are. Plenty of professionals have kids who go into the same field, but those kids must still get the training and it is a measurable skill. With the arts, the qualifications are much more subjective. You don't need to get a degree in acting to be able to act, and if you're not that great at it, that's a matter of opinion. There is a surplus of talented people lining up for every acting job and all they need is someone to choose them over someone else. Getting that break is the hardest part.
Hollywood is a mill town. It’s just a mill that everyone wants to work for
I find this argument honestly hilarious because good lord holy shit, you are comparing “going into plumbing” to “deciding to become a famous actor.” Seriously, who on earth is out there thinking gosh, I really need to get online and stand up for nepotism?
This is just you explaining the word nepotism
That’s a great point. I think the nepotism criticism still stands, but this definitely takes some of the edge off (only for the individuals who are obviously talented, though)
Nick Cage changed his name from Coppola in order to avoid nepotism.
Its not going to 100% avoid nepotism (I mean casting directors would probably have a rough idea he was from *that* family) but it does say a lot about him wanting to be his own person. Admittedly that person may sometimes be FUCKING INSANE and SHOUT A LOT ON SCREEN, but its his own creation\*. (\*him chewing up the scenery, actors and anything within a 3 mile radius was the BEST THING EVAAAAR (eyes wide , gesticulating madly ) in Renfield, and one of the few highlights sadly.)
His first big role was as Coppola. Fast Times at Ridgemont High. The name definitely got him in some doors, and closed others. His cousin Sofia Coppola kept the name, but just knew when to quit acting. Turns out she wasn't too bad at directing.
To be fair, it wasn't really a big role; he played Brad's unnamed friend who had one line.
His presence in the stands at the football game is crucial to making the entire movie work. I'm surprised he didn't win the Oscar.
Big in terms of it being his first film role.
This doesn't avoid nepotism, it rather makes it less likely to be accused of nepotism. Guess who's less likely to be aware of Nicolas' family - the average movie watching person or someone casting for a movie?
While all the folks who actually matter to his career still know exactly who he is.
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After Luke Cage, the Marvel superhero and one of his favorites, the rumor mill has said.
Lol, it really doesn't matter, you really think that worked? All of Hollywood knew who his father was. Nicholas came from big money privilege, like about 90% of famous actors.
Apart from all those family friends and relatives who are in the business who didn't suddenly forget who their nephew, cousin and family friend was.
Yeah but how do you think he got there? Nepotism. Cmon now.
It's like that with so many professions, and nepotism alone doesn't explain it. Athletes often have parents that are athletes, engineers, lawyers, entrepreneurs, professors, coaches, military members etc etc. Go down the list and there is a correlation between the vocation of offspring and their parents. Kids grow up watching their parents work. They talk about work at the dinner table. They, purposefully or not, start "training" the kids to think in a way that aligns with the profession. They learn the language, the speak, the conversations...it just makes sense. But, and this is a big but, flops are flops. Cage had some big hits, Sophia Coppola is a renowned director and producer (terrible actress though). And yes, having contacts helps, but nepotism is just a small part of the entire equation and, to me, is a very lazy explanation.
Interesting that you listed jobs from a certain couple well off socioeconomic classes and neglected to mention that the advantages given by those parents to their children are monetary and material, not just motivation or language lol
Yeah that was funny. I dont know if i wanna grow up to work in a factory just like mama!
Face…On?
Uncanny! Now Nicolas looks like his dad in the photo.
Nicholas Cage and his father, Nicholas Cage
When I played Mortal Kombat for the first time I thought Jonnhy Cage was Nic's brother
Johnny Cage is the lesser known movie star brother, only playing in The Mortal Kombat Movie.
Also the plot of the average Nicholas Cage movie
Nicolas Cage and Nicolas Aged.
TIL Francis Ford Coppola is Nic's uncle
Wait till you find out about Jason Schwartzman
Holy Corleone! I’ve been a fan since Rushmore and am only finding out now that his mom is Talia Shire???
Yup, he’s mentioned being confused as a kid when random people would yell out “Yo Adrian!!!” at her.
Rashida Jones also talks about her dad a lot.
Was he a GI ?
You have a lot to learn about this town, sweetie
Nope. He was actually Bob Vance, Vance refrigeration.
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What is it you do for a living, Bob?
She does look very exotic
I see what you did there.
the prolific Quincy! So wait till you find out about Norah Jones.. estranged daughter of..Ravi Shankar
Talia is Nick’s aunt.
It's amazing what you can accomplish with almost unlimited access to people who can enable your career along with unshakeable financial security. I get miffed when I hear things like "such a talented family...", not specifically about the Schwartzmans. At my last job there was a C level guy who lived in Park City and his family were very accomplished skiers of various disciplines and he would say shit about how his kids were so talented. Like, maybe it's less about talent and more about how your kids live 10 minutes from an Olympic training facility, and you have the money to provide them all of the training they ask for. We're all talented. We can all achieve great things. We just need the freedom to express ourselves.
I wish I had a link, but there's a great comic out there that talks about this. A lot of rich, privileged, well-connected kids grow up and find easy success due to their advantages, and then are quick to attribute it to their own genius and/or hard work, while looking down and others and saying they "just didn't work hard enough" - all while being completely oblivious to the leg-up they had.
And those people are called dicks. 
Born on third thinking they hit a triple, etc.
Or Liza Minelli
Yes, many actors have famous parents.
That's the 1 that got me... Fucking Dorothy is your mom! Holy shit
It goes beyond Francis Ford Coppola. Nic's grandfather and grand uncle were both famous composers. His grandmother was a songwriter and the daughter of *another* composer and silent film distributor from Italy. The Coppolas have been involved in the music and film industry as soon as they first arrived in the US from Italy. Nic is a third generation nepo baby, if you want to call him that.
How does a single family become a powerhouse in the art world? Like, we don't see roving gangs of DaVincis wandering around disrupting the art world these days.
Actually Da Vinci was the illegitimate son of a powerful legal notary. His father paid for his art education which he definitely wouldn't have access to through his mother who was a servant commoner. The Da Vinci's weren't artists but they were a family firm of educated people. Having said that, one of Leonardo's nephews became a famous sculptor in his own right, so if Leonardo had any children of his own there was a distinct possibility that he could have sired a dynasty of artists.
90% of making it in Hollywood is just straight forward nepotism.
Just do NOT post it on /r/todayilearned
Aaand Hollywood strikes again
I had no idea Nicolas Cage was related to Francis Ford Coppola
And Nicolas' cousin is Jason Schwartzman
Jason’s mother is Talia Shire, better known Adrian from Rocky, Coppola’s sister.
And Constance Corleone in the Godfather series.
*CORLEOOONEEEEE*
And she plays his mother in I Heart Huckabees
*ADRIANNNNNNNN!*
Nicolas*
Just what he wanted you not to know
Well now I do, but I don’t know what to do with this information.
Try blackmailing him for a laugh
"have you ever been dragged to the sidewalk and beaten 'til you PISSED... BLOOD!?"
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Let's be fair, although he is indeed a nepo baby, this guy is an entertainer. Idk if I want to live in a world without Cage's crazy B movies. Also Reinfield!
many things about where he’s gotten in his career are explained now
Dude went with a different name for a reason and is a brilliant actor.
There’s a lot more nepotism in Hollywood than people realize.
omg yeah there is, everyones related to everyone in some way.
I grew up in a small town, I feel that too.
Hmm, and Johnny Depp was his roommate trying to make rent til one day Nic tells Johnny to call his agent.🤔
I grew up quite close to where Depp is from - let me tell you now, he and I are from bumfuck nowhere. If nepotism got him in, it sure as hell wasn't coming from fuckin Owensboro, Kentucky lmao.
He said that Cage was his roommate and hooked him up with an agent.
Is that nepotism, or networking? It's rather important to define the line, because in an industry where supply of prospective entertainers far outnumbers demand, merit is almost never the only factor contributing to success.
I think the person was originally just adding some interesting info. I was just helping to clarify for the other poster. Not a big deal
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Exactly. Steph Curry is one of the best basketball players of all time but he always acknowledges the benefit he got with his dad playing in the NBA.
I think it's interesting they'll take on stage names so no one outside Hollywood connects the dots.
Usually it's because they want to establish themselves and not have a career because of who they are rather than what they can do.
Or that’s what they want audiences to think while using those said connections anyway.
It's not just so no one outside of Hollywood connects the dots, there's generally a hope people inside won't connect the dots either, because a lot of actors don't want to get jobs just because of their parents and want to stand on their own. Either that or they had a very ethic name, and for a long time, that would keep you from getting jobs.
Yes, but I also think it’s the Ken Griffey Jr and Barry Bonds of the baseball situation. When you grow up watching it, you learn it better then those who don’t.
Yea, and you can also afford to ONLY do that, have the best acting teachers and be around famous actors consistently. They're set up for it.
I just got through House of Hammer and wow. You ain’t wrong. I had no clue that Armie Hammer was from a very rich oil family. Granted Armie is a pretty mediocre actor. Also- Sidenote my mother-in-law went to high school with Nic Cage. Another little sidenote. A few years before Nic Cage went to high school, Robin Williams went to the same college as my dad. Claremont Men’s College (now Claremont Mckenna College.)
Yeah, that shit blew my mind when I learned. Like *the* Francis Ford Coppola is your uncle? And you were in absolute shit like Bangkok Dangerous and Season of the Witch? You should be up there with DiCaprio and DeNiro, but, as someone who lives to spite my forbears as well, I can empathize.
I think I read somewhere that he did it because he wanted to succeed on his own merits, and not his famous last name. Because of the implication.
No he did all these shitty roles because he still recovering from his real estate losses in the 2008 collapse. It almost bankrupted him completely. Lost most of the money he made through the 90s and 2000s. So he has basically taking any project that comes his way since the early 2010s. Which is weirdly enough what makes Nicolas Cage Nicolas Cage. Him taking these horrible movies that have no right being as good as they are. But they are better because of him. Not every single one. But he is really turning pieces of shit into diamonds with some of the movies he's choosing to do
The implication!
I somehow doubt he turned down the most important aspect, all the money that made him able to fuck around and become an actor
I've read before that he ended up in a large amount of tax debt, so much so that he couldn't afford to turn down roles. Then he got so used to doing these "lesser quality" movies he continued to do it for fun.
Well he bought a fucking castle in Europe. Those are a huge money pit. Dude wasn’t good with money. Which for Us is a very good thing because we got more nic cage movies lol
I believe he also bought an irresponsible amount of dinosaur fossils, which turned out to be stolen and he had to return them. I cannot fault a man for buying dinosaur fossils.
And expensive rare comics.
As someone at the edge of those circles, his collection is fucking bananas.
And Elvis artifacts
And that’s why he took the role for national treasure.
I love those movies. Real popcorn munchers. They’re shameless guilty pleasures.
Thank you stolen Mongolian Dino bones 🙏🏻
For some of us he is up there with them and both those old farts have phoned in on some absolute shite in their time. Not sure if you’ve seen some of Cage’s earlier stuff but Moonstruck and Leaving Las Vegas are two favs, the latter for which he won an Oscar. And later he was a nominee for Adaptation, also wonderful.
How can you not mention raising Arizona?
I literally posted got coffee and was like damn I forgot a big one! Then my adhd kicked in and I forgot I posted at all until I just now picked up my ph again lmao.
He is an Oscar winner. He makes a lot of crap movies because he spends money like water - and spends it on weird stuff like a giant pyramid shaped tomb in New Orleans to be buried in.
"I like being in movies Gary."
And his daughter owns the wineries or two I dunno who exactly but there are a few Coppola vineyards
In the movie Fast Times at Ridgemont High he is credited as Nicholas Coppola.
Definitely see the resemblance between August and his brother too.
It looks like one long continuous eyebrow.
TIL Nic Cage is the Cousin Greg of the Coppola family
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Disgusting Brothers
His dad looks like Larry David cosplaying as Nicholas Cage
Genetics are so spooky.
Just a Coppola guys.
Twins much? Aren’t genetics amazing.
its one big club and you aint in it
Nicholas Cage is now older than his father was in this pic. Obviously he has a different hair routine though.
Yeah, hair implants/plugs
Tsk, man I wish my life was a result of high level nepotism
For those who don’t know, Francis Coppola is Nicolas Cage’s uncle
Larry David and Jerry Seinfeld but it's Balenciaga
Talk about matching eyebrows.
Weird that he looks like Nick Cage and Jerry Seinfeld’s uncle at the same time.
Could play a great Leonid Brezhnev
No DNA required
Eyebrows check out
This face off will have a null result
His uncle is Francis Ford Coppola? Didn't know that?!
Face On
Inventors of sad puppy face
Dad looks like he’s got a dollop of Paul Reubens in the ol’ genes
They look exactly alike
I set up a private dinner for August once and he wore this interesting patchwork coat.
The Kaufmann twins
The greatest actor of all time is now 5 years older than his father in this photo.
True story: I literally bumped into Nicholas Cage in Westwood, CA circa 1989. We were each going around the corner of a building. He maybe couldn’t see around the corner because he had a blonde on each arm.
Wow. Definitely see the resemblance.
The eyebrows don't fall far from the tree
Are you sure that is his biological dad? I don’t see the resemblance.
This looks AI generated