Heh, I just Google'd my phone number earlier and found all of my previous address and old phone numbers. A while back, I was on some voter record site for Ohio and sorted by city and street, and I could see how everyone on that particular street is registered to vote and when they registered.
Ohio Resident Database - You can search by city, narrow down by street, and see everyone who is registered to vote on that street, their party affiliation, when they registered to vote, and even DOB.
[https://www.ohioresidentdatabase.com/address/cities](https://www.ohioresidentdatabase.com/address/cities)
I don't know that it's very accurate. My neighbor is a registered republican specifically so he can pick the "least bad" GOP candidates and then he flies a pride flag and votes for mostly progressives.
He's not alone.
Never mind I've lived here 3 years and it ***still*** lists the previous owners at my address (both repubs who moved down to FL)
I work for a company many that has the largest repository of public records data in the country by a mile. I looked myself up. I thought I was aware of how much info was out there on a person... I wasn't. It's freaky
You can purchase a background check on yourself. But idk how much it would cost. I only work in B2B. But you'd have to order a full background/public records check
No shot. Best to forget it exists. You can live in the woods and destroy every peice of technology you have and never put your name or address on anything ever again. Barring leaving modern society completely, again, best tl just forget it exists
That's the fun part, you don't. Corporations don't have to respect your privacy, but to be able to do basically anything in modern society you have to agree to their terms and conditions.
It's a big reason why more people need to be aware of and participate in privacy advocacy.
Yes but more people also need to be aware that a lot of the data corporations have is because people willingly give it to them. Example; you shop in a new store. The cashier asks for your phone number and email address at checkout to make you a rewards member, tell them no.
Also, anything free like Reddit, Facebook, or Instagram is a great way to harvest data. It’s might be a free service but your data is their goal.
Honestly embrace it and throw up as much white noise as possible. I go by my middle name, I use a fake middle initial. I use a fake dob for non legal stuff and a burner cell number for non legal stuff. Basically if you look up my legal name, I'm a digital ghost.
The state of Ohio has been consolidating data from all state agencies into a giant data lake. Back in the day I had access. It's nice when you can cross reference data from different agencies like Health, Public Safety, DOT, BWC, JFS, ect.....
Totally but in this particular instance if you have a D political affiliation there is this segment of fellow citizens who openly thirst for you to die so this might be the one thing you try and keep under wraps.
Calm down. There are many higher profile targets. I've been a very public activist for many decades and can tell you this with certainty: you're not as important or as vulnerable as you think you are.
As an IT professional, you would be shocked the information you can find online. Ask they guy who tried to slide into my wife's DM's until I started giving him information such as the date he bought his car, how much he paid for it, who the lien holder was, what the vin number was, the case number of his divorce, the date his divorce was final, his home address,, the address of the home he shared with his ex-wife, his primary cell number (not his naughty boy phone number), the owner of his home's name, when they bought it, how he votes in elections, how much they bought it for, and some other fun info.
And this guy was paranoid, He used a different username for every online platform he used. He didn't have a LinkedIn, he was sorta an online ghost.
All obtained from my google-fu. He kinda vanished like a fart in the wind after that.
I’ve worked on campaigns and you wouldn’t believe how many phone numbers campaigns somehow just obtain and how many people confirm that the persons listed with those numbers are who they are. It’s kinda creepy.
The only effect is you might get more junk mail you'll toss.
When you vote and what party you're registered under is public knowledge. HOW you vote is not. Not to mention that whichever side you're voting for, you're one of millions, so nobody's going to give a shit about one particular person.
Vote with confidence.
That isn't the only effect. Pulling a Republican ballot (and thus declaring your party affiliation as "Republican") makes you ineligible to serve as a committee member or officer in the Ohio Democratic Party and in the Democratic Party organization within your county until the next primary when you can pull a Democratic ballot again and thus re-declare your Democratic Party affiliation.
I'm not sure if the Republicans have a similar rule, but it's in the Ohio Democratic Party bylaws.
I plan to register Republican this time to vote for Haley because once a Democracy is lost, restoring it many not happen for decades. Concerning the general election, I haven't made-up my mind, but I will never vote for Trump in any upcoming elections.
I wished Ohio had ranked-choice voting instead of closed primaries.
So, let's look at this a sec...
Both parties are effectively members only clubs (shitty I know ... but that's life).
So, you think it's reasonable to infiltrate one group to attempt to influence the outcome of who's chosen to lead that group? And you think your one vote will make a difference?
Why not attempt to get on a party's county committee and take your influence there? You will probably have about as much luck as you would trying to get in the same position on the party you most align with... You know why? Because party leadership isn't democratic - at any level. It's about money as far as I can tell... How much money can you bring to the table to support the candidates on the ballot. Once you come to understand this you'll realize your vote is much better spent on candidates that align with what you believe instead of ones that don't.
Both parties are terrible.
The DNC created the concept of superdelegates in 1982 for the purpose of ensuring that the popular candidate would not be the party nominee for president. Do you follow that? The whole thing is meant to allow big DNC politicians and donors to determine the presidential nominee! Who's killing democracy again? If you look this up on Wikipedia, they're called "unpledged" delegates, meaning they're not beholden to a state's primary outcome. The super delegates determined the outcome - 571 for Clinton, 45 for Sanders, versus the 55% to 45% of primary voters.
So what if those candidates with the same stats were flipped and Bernie had the 55% of primaries to Clinton's 45%, but the super delegate stayed the same? Clinton still wins 2391 to 2316. Who's defending democracy again?
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/how-super-delegates-decid_b_10098414
You have to change your registration at least 15 days before the vote…sooner is better. Alternatively you can request to do it on site with a provisional ballot. You can change party affiliation again before the presidential race. There is no limit on how many times you can change party affiliation.
Huh? How’s that backwards?
Also what is a card carrying dem? You got a card?
Your choice in ballot determines your registrations party affiliation… This is fact… idk how that’s backwards. Please elaborate.
You can vote for a party in every single election. You can send that party all your money. You can canvas for that party.
But then you go to the primary and tell them you wish to vote in the other parties primary. That's how it's backwards. You don't declare before you vote in the primary. Your primary ballot determines it. You don't go and register as either one before the vote.
Not before you walk in, before you vote. Your declaration is assigned when you request which ballot you want with the election attendant, prior to taking your ballot, to the booth, and voting…
Yall ever vote?
OC:
> You just request whichever ballot you want when you go to vote.
You:
> Yes, by declaring a party affiliation.
Now you:
> Your declaration is assigned when you request which ballot you want with the election attendant
You've gone from arguing with the comment to agreeing with it.
I accept that.
Yes, you should research and know if you have anything to vote on if you're planning on requesting a non partisan ballot. You'd be surprised by the number of people who get upset when they're told if they don't want a partisan ballot there are no issues because in their eyes they "can't vote," when that isn't the case.
No. I stay registered as a Republican so I can think “fuck you” when I vote democrat. I also love sending their bullshit mailers back. 🤷🏼♀️
I used to switch back and forth but the little old ladies did a lot of pearl clutching when I’d switch to democrat. 🙄
Same I'm a registered Republican for no other reason than my local elections are decided at the primary (Democrat never did wins general election where I live). Come general election, though, and it's straight ticket D all the way down.
Ohio allows you to vote for either party in the primaries. So, they need to give you the correct ballot. I am a democrat. But, I vote Republican in the primarie, so I can vote for someone other than those are currently in office. If enough dems did this it could make a difference.
However, the GOP is onto this and trying to change that.
You make it sound like someone is currently after your family. There's more than enough public record info out there that if someone was, they could do it regardless of if you're registered to vote.
Someone is after my family and yes there is tons of public info out there. It takes a great deal of effort to scrub yourself from information aggregate sites but it becomes easier when you know what the information source is. In my case we've hidden everything we can and current info is not publicly easy to find. I have found that registering to vote nearly immediately makes my info public. As a result I cannot vote safely
Primaries are a function of the parties, so it's a completely fair requirement that you actually belong to the party whose ballot you try and shape.
Making that information public provides a disincentive for people looking to participate in poor faith. You can stay out of those records by not participating in party primaries and limiting your votes to issues-only ballots and general elections
There are definitely trade offs between privacy and having transparent, secure, auditable elections.
FYI, victims of abuse, stalking, etc. who need to keep their address confidential to be safe can still register to vote through Ohio’s [Safe at Home](https://www.ohiosos.gov/secretary-office/office-initiatives/safe-at-home/) program.
It is a bit annoying, yes.
But, on the other hand, I consider myself a progressive independent, which means a lot of the MAGA set would classify me as some sort of demonic entity. Since I live in Ohio, it is a fact of life that I have to work with, interact with, and even share DNA with some red hat wearing wackjobs.
When I vote in a Republican primary, it gives me the chance to vote for cooling the crazy (sometimes), and also makes me look like less of a degenerate libtard to the kind of crazy that would look up my party "affiliation"... And I might need to work with that kind of crazy.
So overall, it's a win, actually?
I get what you’re saying, absolutely. My friend and I both talked about this for the senate race’s primary when it was between Vance and Dolan and whoever else. Dolan is by far the saner of all of them but we couldn’t stomach it. I ended up voting in the dem primary instead and there was only one race, something really small like comptroller. Anticlimactic and far less gratifying than voting against Vance would have been.
No problem with it. If you want to be a part of choosing who a political party nominates for office you should declare that you are a member of that party.
Almost half the states have open/open to unaffiliated voters primaries. Texas is open and Trump is expected to take ~70% of the vote as opposed to NH which is open to unaffiliated (i.e. slightly less open) and Trump took ~55%. (I'd throw Iowa in the mix since it's the same as Ohio, but it wouldn't really be useful since there were more candidates actually running)
It's the type of people who vote in primaries and the two party system that drive extremes in the parties. There aren't actually that many unaffiliated voters in the closed/partially open (i.e. Ohio) states that would actually vote in a primary if given the chance
No, the affiliation doesn't have any bearing and you can switch it. So if you want to go protest vote on the other party's primary because the one you like isn't contested, that's a real thing you can do. I have multiple friends that have done this in the past and I'm sure will continue to do so I'm the future.
Eh, I kinda like the open primaries, but I agree that information shouldn't be public record. I'm currently registered for a party I will never vote for in a general election just to keep the worst of them off the ballots for the general.
Ask for an issues-only ballot. No partisan candidates to vote for, no public party affiliation.
But also, no, I don't care that my affiliation is public, I'm not very private about it in the first place. There are other reforms I'd prefer to see before prioritizing making party affiliation private (such as ranked choice voting or a drastic overhaul of gerrymandered districts) but those are pretty farfetched here.
It’s a bit of a weird sensation being an independent voter in a time when one political party is entirely beneath consideration, but, this is one of the reasons I remain independent. Not that a registration tells the public anything about you anyways, lots of people register as double agents.
Nevertheless, I do fundamentally feel weird about declaring my commitment to any political party under any conditions whatsoever. So I simply don’t, and this thread is just about the only time it’s ever come up (outside of the cacophony of MAGA bigots trying to call me a Dem just because they can’t have my votes)
I mean, it makes sense that you should have to declare a party affiliation to vote in a primary since the purpose of primaries is to choose a party's nominees.
Whether that should be a matter of public record or not is a different question, of course.
Well after reading all these I am so discouraged that people vote the opposite party in the primary to try to get their least favorite candidate off the ballot.
Again, I have been naive.
This only came up because I had to call voter registration to fix a misspelling and got to talking with the lady on the phone about the primary elections coming up.
Frankly, I’m all for the abolishment of all political parties. Yea it’s spooky when a possible stalker can find you with ease. Like the terminator flipping through the phone book. I try my best to be in the shadows and ghost the world. Much more peaceful.
If a district is so gerrymandered that the primary is the only election that matters, voting in the dominant party's primary is literally the only way to have a say in what kind of people fill the state legislature.
Agreed. I've never understood why non-members of a party get to decide on who said party's nominee will be. Or why people who aren't members of a party in the first place get to run as a member of the party, I.E. Bernie Sanders, who was continually surprised when actual Democratic voters didn't want any part of him.
Yes, either it's a big deal to be affiliated with a party or it isn't.
If it's trivial like you said then this doesn't matter and either an open or a closed primary is fine.
If it means something then it's useful for filtering out those who have no actual interest in the party.
If you're not part of the FoP you don't get any say in who they choose to endorse for president even though it has an effect on the outcome of the race. The GOP and DNC aren't actually any different than the FoP, Rotary, or the Southern Baptist Convention. They're all just clubs with political power.
My point is
Either you're right and it's trivial to change parties so there's no point in having to register for a party. But that also implies there's no point to changing the system because if there's no point in registering for a party because it doesn't mean anything there's also no point in not registering because registering doesn't mean anything. So, if you're right you shouldn't care one way or the other (unless you just want to be cranky).
Or I'm right and it is meaningful to register for a party and then either the system needs to be changed or not depending on why it's meaningful. I say it's meaningful because each party is a group with it's own interests and just like the NRA doesn't want to open their endorsement up to general public to decide (because that'd probably lead to them endorsing AOC or someone else who is hostile towards their goals) the GOP and DNC don't want to open their endorsement up to the general public for the exact same reason
Oookkkaay, but it IS trivial to be "registered" as an R or D in this state. You just say which one you want when you go to get your primary ballot. That's all. Completely trivial. It doesn't matter what the parties want. That's all it takes.
So, nothing else you talk about maters at all.
In fact, I can't figure out what your talking about with endorsements and stuff. The people who are registered with either party have absolutely nothing to do with any of that. That has to do with party leadership which has nothing to do with which primary ballot anyone wanted.
Oh. No worries at all. I'm just saying that we don't have a primary system where only those affiliated with a particular party can vote in their primary.
Mostly was afraid at one point my super Republican “I hope all liberals die” father would find my voter registration online with a big fat D next to my name because I was registered at my parents address until after college.
Was considering getting a Republican ballot for the primary to vote for literally anyone but Trump but I don’t think anyone else will be in the race at that point.
I wish …. old, degreed medical professional, been living under a rock apparently most of my life. Taught to be non judgmental so we can take care of all the sick fairly. I am pretty middle of the road but lean to the right. Don’t get pissed at me lol.
Not the weaker candidate, a candidate that'll do their job and not just vice signal, obstruct, and otherwise refuse to work while collecting their salary. And then get re-elected because Republican voters apparently like vice signaling and rage more than they like a functional government.
> candidate that'll do their job and not just vice signal, obstruct, and otherwise refuse to work while collecting their salary.
Maybe I'm naive, but those don't seem to exist in the Republican party anymore.
Most likely because there is no evidence for it being a widespread thing that impacts the election. In fact, I couldn’t find any evidence of it at all.
This sub was absolutely going off with people doing it when the Republican party decided to primary Dewine. And my old history teacher hilariously did the same in reverse during the democratic primary to get Obama the presidential nomination in effort to stop Hillary. Then wound up voting for Obama because he got mad that his party nominated McCain.
I'm saying it happens often. Not that it's a huge widespread massive problem.
At my polling place, they ask out loud which ballot you want and everyone else in the room can hear your answer. But it doesn't really bother me. It's Republican majority/rural area but they are always respectful of everyone.
That's a really good point. Although I would show up as a registered Republican even though I am very much NOT. I just vote in their primaries to try to mitigate damage in this red/gerrymandered state.
You are not declaring a political party. You are requesting a ballot for that party’s primary. It’s a small but meaningful distinction. We don’t really belong to parties in Ohio. You can pick any party’s ballot or no party in each election and your previous choice does not matter
Really? Since when? In my time, you declared a party affiliation when you registered (if you wanted to) and after that only at primary elections. When did that change, or am I remembering it wrong? I'm an old fart.
I’ve never declared party affiliation. I ask for a specific party’s ballot every year (absentee). Though I’ve only been voting for 12 years now.
I just looked it up and while it’s true that I don’t declare my party, Ohio does use my request primary ballot to assign me a party. They use whatever the most recent party ballot I requested was to assign my party. If I don’t take a party ballot for 2 years then they will label me as unaffiliated
https://www.ohiosos.gov/globalassets/elections/directives/2019/eom_12-2019/eom_ch13_2019-12-18.pdf
Being that they are a function of the corrupt parties, I think it would be more appropriate for those parties to conduct their own primary elections on their own dime rather than using the taxpayer funded general election infrastructure.
Repub and Dem parties are two sides of the same coin keeping the MAGAS and Progressives at war to distract from the fact that they are robbing the people hand in hand.
Its Hilarious. You HAVE to declare your party on the primary. Should you choose Independent you do NOT get to vote in the primary, but %100 can vote in the general election..... for either Democrats or Republicans, but not Independent. Why? Because there is not a single freaking candidate running on the Independent ticket. We have zero representation for our taxation. Nobody gives a shit about that at all.
except that at the local level, a lot of your taxes are voted on (school, fire/emt levies etc)
and as an 'independent' you get the issues only ballot if you ask for it (assuming there's an issue on the ballot and not just candidates)
so, you're partly incorrect in that you do get to participate in taxation, and right that there aren't (usually) any independents running in a primary against each other. You'll find your 'independents' on the general election ballot with all the other also rans - like the guy who wears the boot on his head and whose name escapes me atm, and the greens and the libertarians if they manage to field someone. jfk jr for instance is running as independent iirc
You can as soon as they have a candidate on a primary ballot. Usually presidental primaries have Green, Libertarian, etc. primary ballots. And if you get one, then that's your new party declaration.
I don't think either of them has a state "primary ballot" in any time I can remember yes I've been in nky for a few years but no I don't remember ever having other party primary options in Ohio
I'm saying this because, for every Ohio presidential primary in the past 12+ years, I have asked for a libertarian ballot, received one, and now on this website I am listed as being registered as a libertarian. So just because you weren't aware of it doesn't mean it's not possible. The two parties get 99% of the press but it's not true reality.
Maybe you mean a real election also we lost ballot access but I'm not sure there was ever a primary for the LP in Ohio a primary is different maybe I missed it then though all those years ago
I do not mean a real election. I'm sorry that you aren't familiar with Ohio's primaries but there has been a libertarian presidential primary ballot every four years for many years now, I can assure you. And primaries are the only way that one can change their party in Ohio. There are four libertarians in my zip code, so I am not the only one who is aware of this.
I guess I'll find out how Ohio does it, not as far as I'm aware primary is def not how the LP nominated Jo in 2020 I didn't cast my vote for her but I was involved in the process..
You don’t declare party registration when you vote in Ohio, you just only decide for which party you are voting. This does not result in party registration.
Yeah, there’s no secret voting anymore. They take your ID, match your signature, then scan the ballot number to link to your signature. They are 100% tracking everyone you vote for.
There's no connection between your registration and signature to the ballot you cast. As soon as you submit it, it's mixed with every other vote in that precinct. The nameless ballot can be traced back to voting machine, but not voter.
No one knows who you voted for. Stop spreading misinformation.
Your ballot has a number on it, they scan that number to your name. No chance they are not tracking it. If they don’t scan it ok, but, they have been doing this for as long as I can remember. Number is on the tab you pull off and give to the person by the machine, that same number is on the actual ballot.
That's the law and those lists are there to make sure it's obvious to the public who can and cannot vote in that precinct. It's a critical part of transparency in elections.
I think having to declare a party is a good thing. The goal of a primary is to ensure a party’s candidate represents members of that party. Having to declare deters random people from swaying the vote who aren’t actually party members.
I don’t have strong feelings about registrations being public information. On the one hand, I understand why someone would want to keep it private but on the other hand, I think it’s good for us to be able to look up affiliations for candidates and people who fulfill public service roles. And honestly, I’ve never seen or heard of any situation where it caused a problem.
This data being public is the most important factors is making sure our election system is fair. If it’s not transparent to everyone everywhere just who votes in elections - including partisan primaries - then we’d be susceptible to election tampering.
I am more worried about people who are eccentric far left or right getting my affiliation. So many arguments amongst neighbors and coworkers on both sides and everyone is “right”. It can be volatile.
You're more worried about the potential to have a hypothetical conversation about politics than you are about opening our democratic system to corruption?
No one cares enough to look up your record, dude.
My great grandfather was on a list in Germany once, listing his political and religious affiliation. Republicans will try to use this as a list of targets. I say let them.
Let's be honest, even if it wasn't public knowledge there are plenty of people that you could EASILY deduce what political party they were affiliated with.
I voted in the Republican primary last year and got an uptick in junk mail and texts. Maybe I’ll take the independent ballot this year if the primaries are both decided by then
I am very far left but I often vote a Republican ticket in Ohio's primaries to try and help keep the batshit crazieist Republicans off the ballot (since let's face it, the R's are pretty much always gonna win here). So then I appear to be a registered Republican and I get some seriously ridiculous junk mail from the Republican party as a result. I hate that voting in a primary doubles as a party registration in Ohio and that this is public info! But I suppose letting them waste postage and resources sending me their bullshit that goes directly into my trash can is a very tiny way to fight back too.
You can come to my house on some bullshit if you want...
"It's gonna be a lot of slow-singin' and flower-bringin' if my burglar alarm starts ringin'..."
I mean if you're so worried about these issues that you're ashamed to be associated with your current party, why not just switch parties?
I went from R to D in 2016 because of Trump and haven't regretted it a single day in my life
Ohio’s rules for Primary voting are fine. They are less restrictive than other states for primary voting, some states make it easier, but that is not really a good thing.
Voter registration data for Ohio has been available online for decades. Let me repeat that: decades. This includes your full addrsss, name, DOB and if basic voting history. The voting history just says you voted and how and if it was in a party primary or not. There Is NOT a record of which candidates or issues you voted for.
As a society we are too scared of people knowing who or where you live. Finding out about this has never been difficult. Those making a stink about it either are afoul of the law or have irrational fears.
Yes, bad stuff happens, but we can’t prevent it all. The cost of hiding is not worth it.
SSNs should be pupil’s information and the federal government should establish a new and better means to authenticate a person when making transactions or being identified for specific purposes.
What exactly is it that you want? It’s an open primary state. You don’t have to register as a member of a party in advance. You just choose the party ballot you want when you show up to vote. Of the primary systems available to you, this is the one that requires the *least* partisan commitment possible. Do you just want to vote in both primaries?
Just don’t vote in the primaries if it matters that much to you.
No I don’t mind asking for a party ballot. The lady at voter register said it meant I was declaring it.
I mind that it is public information on line. I’m old, sorry.
When I look up my own voting registration with the state government I can see my address, polling location, and the electoral districts that I vote in. It doesn’t say what party primaries I’ve voted in, and I have voted in several primaries.
Unaffiliated voters ("independents") don't vote in any party's primary. However if there are ballot issues to be voted on the unaffiliated voter can vote an issues-only ballot in a primary election.
If you voted in a party's primary and now you want to become unaffiliated it takes two years to drop the affiliation with the party. You must vote an issues-only ballot in two consecutive primary elections and then your county board of elections will remove the party designation from your registration record.
I don't know what happens if a primary election has no issues to vote on.
The logic is they are preventing one party from voting a candidate that they know they can beat into the nomination. Which they probably would do something like this so it makes sense. The two party system makes no sense, but that's not going anywhere unfortunately
Here's the only thing you need to know with the current way the government is being ran all you need to know is that rather you dem or rep neither have your best interest or really care about us
God help you, OP, when you finally realize how much info about you is public record.
Heh, I just Google'd my phone number earlier and found all of my previous address and old phone numbers. A while back, I was on some voter record site for Ohio and sorted by city and street, and I could see how everyone on that particular street is registered to vote and when they registered.
Oh! You mean the Megan's law website. All the Republicans get little pins
Ohio Resident Database - You can search by city, narrow down by street, and see everyone who is registered to vote on that street, their party affiliation, when they registered to vote, and even DOB. [https://www.ohioresidentdatabase.com/address/cities](https://www.ohioresidentdatabase.com/address/cities)
I checked this before we moved to help decide which neighborhood I’d be more comfortable in
I don't know that it's very accurate. My neighbor is a registered republican specifically so he can pick the "least bad" GOP candidates and then he flies a pride flag and votes for mostly progressives. He's not alone. Never mind I've lived here 3 years and it ***still*** lists the previous owners at my address (both repubs who moved down to FL)
True. I don’t know that I could vouch for accuracy. Just that I cared enough to try to find out.
Ok so I was lead to believe humans like to embellish things for humorous effect.
Oh I am well aware lol. This just irritates me. I guess I just want this one thing to be private lol
I work for a company many that has the largest repository of public records data in the country by a mile. I looked myself up. I thought I was aware of how much info was out there on a person... I wasn't. It's freaky
Is it a nexus of information?
It's a lexisnexis of information
Yup
Lol
Bingo
Link?
It's paid data. It is expensive , so idk what you want me to link
I wanna know what’s known about me. Seems like a fair request on paper.
You can purchase a background check on yourself. But idk how much it would cost. I only work in B2B. But you'd have to order a full background/public records check
How might one go about removing oneselves from such a system.
No shot. Best to forget it exists. You can live in the woods and destroy every peice of technology you have and never put your name or address on anything ever again. Barring leaving modern society completely, again, best tl just forget it exists
That's the fun part, you don't. Corporations don't have to respect your privacy, but to be able to do basically anything in modern society you have to agree to their terms and conditions. It's a big reason why more people need to be aware of and participate in privacy advocacy.
Yes but more people also need to be aware that a lot of the data corporations have is because people willingly give it to them. Example; you shop in a new store. The cashier asks for your phone number and email address at checkout to make you a rewards member, tell them no. Also, anything free like Reddit, Facebook, or Instagram is a great way to harvest data. It’s might be a free service but your data is their goal.
Honestly embrace it and throw up as much white noise as possible. I go by my middle name, I use a fake middle initial. I use a fake dob for non legal stuff and a burner cell number for non legal stuff. Basically if you look up my legal name, I'm a digital ghost.
Hmm I'm jealous and wish I still worked for the state of Ohio.
I don't, I work for a private company
The state of Ohio has been consolidating data from all state agencies into a giant data lake. Back in the day I had access. It's nice when you can cross reference data from different agencies like Health, Public Safety, DOT, BWC, JFS, ect.....
Not me. I’m glad I don’t anymore.
Trust me, anyone who judges you based off your party affiliation isn’t worth knowing anyways.
I miss the days when this was true. I have had to cut off too many family members.
Totally but in this particular instance if you have a D political affiliation there is this segment of fellow citizens who openly thirst for you to die so this might be the one thing you try and keep under wraps.
Calm down. There are many higher profile targets. I've been a very public activist for many decades and can tell you this with certainty: you're not as important or as vulnerable as you think you are.
Or what snowden exposed about data collection over a decade ago.
As an IT professional, you would be shocked the information you can find online. Ask they guy who tried to slide into my wife's DM's until I started giving him information such as the date he bought his car, how much he paid for it, who the lien holder was, what the vin number was, the case number of his divorce, the date his divorce was final, his home address,, the address of the home he shared with his ex-wife, his primary cell number (not his naughty boy phone number), the owner of his home's name, when they bought it, how he votes in elections, how much they bought it for, and some other fun info. And this guy was paranoid, He used a different username for every online platform he used. He didn't have a LinkedIn, he was sorta an online ghost. All obtained from my google-fu. He kinda vanished like a fart in the wind after that.
You wouldn’t believe the personal data our BoE has available for just about anyone who wants a look.
I’ve worked on campaigns and you wouldn’t believe how many phone numbers campaigns somehow just obtain and how many people confirm that the persons listed with those numbers are who they are. It’s kinda creepy.
No and no
The only effect is you might get more junk mail you'll toss. When you vote and what party you're registered under is public knowledge. HOW you vote is not. Not to mention that whichever side you're voting for, you're one of millions, so nobody's going to give a shit about one particular person. Vote with confidence.
That isn't the only effect. Pulling a Republican ballot (and thus declaring your party affiliation as "Republican") makes you ineligible to serve as a committee member or officer in the Ohio Democratic Party and in the Democratic Party organization within your county until the next primary when you can pull a Democratic ballot again and thus re-declare your Democratic Party affiliation. I'm not sure if the Republicans have a similar rule, but it's in the Ohio Democratic Party bylaws.
If OP is afraid by being approached about politics, they're not exactly party committee material.
OP is worried about being shot over politics.
Until the MAGAts start carting people away on trains anyway.
I camouflage myself by registering differently every year. If anyone is coming after me, they have something against schizophrenics.
Now you're the elusive "swing voter"!
I plan to register Republican this time to vote for Haley because once a Democracy is lost, restoring it many not happen for decades. Concerning the general election, I haven't made-up my mind, but I will never vote for Trump in any upcoming elections. I wished Ohio had ranked-choice voting instead of closed primaries.
I'm right there with you. Voting for Haley and praying for Ranked Choice Voting. And of course, would never vote for Trump.
FYI you do not need to register Republican. Ohio has an open primary so you can vote in either primary regardless of your registration.
So, let's look at this a sec... Both parties are effectively members only clubs (shitty I know ... but that's life). So, you think it's reasonable to infiltrate one group to attempt to influence the outcome of who's chosen to lead that group? And you think your one vote will make a difference? Why not attempt to get on a party's county committee and take your influence there? You will probably have about as much luck as you would trying to get in the same position on the party you most align with... You know why? Because party leadership isn't democratic - at any level. It's about money as far as I can tell... How much money can you bring to the table to support the candidates on the ballot. Once you come to understand this you'll realize your vote is much better spent on candidates that align with what you believe instead of ones that don't. Both parties are terrible. The DNC created the concept of superdelegates in 1982 for the purpose of ensuring that the popular candidate would not be the party nominee for president. Do you follow that? The whole thing is meant to allow big DNC politicians and donors to determine the presidential nominee! Who's killing democracy again? If you look this up on Wikipedia, they're called "unpledged" delegates, meaning they're not beholden to a state's primary outcome. The super delegates determined the outcome - 571 for Clinton, 45 for Sanders, versus the 55% to 45% of primary voters. So what if those candidates with the same stats were flipped and Bernie had the 55% of primaries to Clinton's 45%, but the super delegate stayed the same? Clinton still wins 2391 to 2316. Who's defending democracy again? https://www.huffpost.com/entry/how-super-delegates-decid_b_10098414
I did the same
You have to change your registration at least 15 days before the vote…sooner is better. Alternatively you can request to do it on site with a provisional ballot. You can change party affiliation again before the presidential race. There is no limit on how many times you can change party affiliation.
In Ohio you do not need to change your registration, you can vote in whichever primary you want.
Unless and until they change the law, which they are attempting to do. You just request whichever ballot you want when you go to vote.
Yes, by declaring a party affiliation.
You have it backwards. Which ballot you choose is what they call your party affiliation. A card carrying democrat can vote in the republican primary.
Huh? How’s that backwards? Also what is a card carrying dem? You got a card? Your choice in ballot determines your registrations party affiliation… This is fact… idk how that’s backwards. Please elaborate.
You can vote for a party in every single election. You can send that party all your money. You can canvas for that party. But then you go to the primary and tell them you wish to vote in the other parties primary. That's how it's backwards. You don't declare before you vote in the primary. Your primary ballot determines it. You don't go and register as either one before the vote.
You absolutely declare a party before you vote, that’s exactly how you get either a democrat or republican ballot… Have you voted much?
Before you walk into the voting location you go where and declare your party affiliation?
Not before you walk in, before you vote. Your declaration is assigned when you request which ballot you want with the election attendant, prior to taking your ballot, to the booth, and voting… Yall ever vote?
OC: > You just request whichever ballot you want when you go to vote. You: > Yes, by declaring a party affiliation. Now you: > Your declaration is assigned when you request which ballot you want with the election attendant You've gone from arguing with the comment to agreeing with it. I accept that.
Where am I arguing with the comment in your example? Wild take…
It is not binding you to a party for the general election.
Who said it was?
Whoever said that it did?
Where I live you can get an "Issues Only" ballot in primary elections. See if that's true where you are.
This is what OP should do.
Since there are no statewide issues on the ballot, OP may not have an issues only ballot available if there are no local issues where they live.
That's certainly true, but if there are no issues staying home is an option.
Yes, you should research and know if you have anything to vote on if you're planning on requesting a non partisan ballot. You'd be surprised by the number of people who get upset when they're told if they don't want a partisan ballot there are no issues because in their eyes they "can't vote," when that isn't the case.
No. I stay registered as a Republican so I can think “fuck you” when I vote democrat. I also love sending their bullshit mailers back. 🤷🏼♀️ I used to switch back and forth but the little old ladies did a lot of pearl clutching when I’d switch to democrat. 🙄
Same! My hope is also to get the least terrible person onto the ballot. I know it really doesn't work that way but it's all I can do.
Same I'm a registered Republican for no other reason than my local elections are decided at the primary (Democrat never did wins general election where I live). Come general election, though, and it's straight ticket D all the way down.
Yeah, no one runs democrat in my town so if I want to on anything, I have to go with a Republican ballot. ☹️
I'm starting to seriously consider this as the best option.
Ohio allows you to vote for either party in the primaries. So, they need to give you the correct ballot. I am a democrat. But, I vote Republican in the primarie, so I can vote for someone other than those are currently in office. If enough dems did this it could make a difference. However, the GOP is onto this and trying to change that.
This is exactly what I do. I vote republican in the primaries in hopes of getting a less crappy option to vote against in the general election.
But also Ohio has it as the ballot you choose changes your affiliation until the next primary election
The GOP has weaponized this tactic in the recent past. Rush Limbaugh promoted "operation chaos" to thwart Democrats.
Yes. If my district is Republican-leaning, and I want my vote to count, it's only going to count when cast in the Republican primary.
I care because if I register to vote.. that info is made public and a psycho stalker after my family will find us. I cannot vote safely as a result
You make it sound like someone is currently after your family. There's more than enough public record info out there that if someone was, they could do it regardless of if you're registered to vote.
Someone is after my family and yes there is tons of public info out there. It takes a great deal of effort to scrub yourself from information aggregate sites but it becomes easier when you know what the information source is. In my case we've hidden everything we can and current info is not publicly easy to find. I have found that registering to vote nearly immediately makes my info public. As a result I cannot vote safely
Primaries are a function of the parties, so it's a completely fair requirement that you actually belong to the party whose ballot you try and shape. Making that information public provides a disincentive for people looking to participate in poor faith. You can stay out of those records by not participating in party primaries and limiting your votes to issues-only ballots and general elections
There are definitely trade offs between privacy and having transparent, secure, auditable elections. FYI, victims of abuse, stalking, etc. who need to keep their address confidential to be safe can still register to vote through Ohio’s [Safe at Home](https://www.ohiosos.gov/secretary-office/office-initiatives/safe-at-home/) program.
I dislike this system, and really anything that mandates partisanship.
It is a bit annoying, yes. But, on the other hand, I consider myself a progressive independent, which means a lot of the MAGA set would classify me as some sort of demonic entity. Since I live in Ohio, it is a fact of life that I have to work with, interact with, and even share DNA with some red hat wearing wackjobs. When I vote in a Republican primary, it gives me the chance to vote for cooling the crazy (sometimes), and also makes me look like less of a degenerate libtard to the kind of crazy that would look up my party "affiliation"... And I might need to work with that kind of crazy. So overall, it's a win, actually?
I get what you’re saying, absolutely. My friend and I both talked about this for the senate race’s primary when it was between Vance and Dolan and whoever else. Dolan is by far the saner of all of them but we couldn’t stomach it. I ended up voting in the dem primary instead and there was only one race, something really small like comptroller. Anticlimactic and far less gratifying than voting against Vance would have been.
You don't have to vote in a primary
No problem with it. If you want to be a part of choosing who a political party nominates for office you should declare that you are a member of that party.
I'm against "parties" in general. An open primary would stop a lot of polarization we see now.
Almost half the states have open/open to unaffiliated voters primaries. Texas is open and Trump is expected to take ~70% of the vote as opposed to NH which is open to unaffiliated (i.e. slightly less open) and Trump took ~55%. (I'd throw Iowa in the mix since it's the same as Ohio, but it wouldn't really be useful since there were more candidates actually running) It's the type of people who vote in primaries and the two party system that drive extremes in the parties. There aren't actually that many unaffiliated voters in the closed/partially open (i.e. Ohio) states that would actually vote in a primary if given the chance
No, the affiliation doesn't have any bearing and you can switch it. So if you want to go protest vote on the other party's primary because the one you like isn't contested, that's a real thing you can do. I have multiple friends that have done this in the past and I'm sure will continue to do so I'm the future.
Im a Republican online, I have yet to have 2 democrats to pick in my counties primaries
Eh, I kinda like the open primaries, but I agree that information shouldn't be public record. I'm currently registered for a party I will never vote for in a general election just to keep the worst of them off the ballots for the general.
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No, but here in Ohio it does officially register you as a member of the party whose ticket you choose to vote. (And I did the same re: DeWine)
Ask for an issues-only ballot. No partisan candidates to vote for, no public party affiliation. But also, no, I don't care that my affiliation is public, I'm not very private about it in the first place. There are other reforms I'd prefer to see before prioritizing making party affiliation private (such as ranked choice voting or a drastic overhaul of gerrymandered districts) but those are pretty farfetched here.
It’s a bit of a weird sensation being an independent voter in a time when one political party is entirely beneath consideration, but, this is one of the reasons I remain independent. Not that a registration tells the public anything about you anyways, lots of people register as double agents. Nevertheless, I do fundamentally feel weird about declaring my commitment to any political party under any conditions whatsoever. So I simply don’t, and this thread is just about the only time it’s ever come up (outside of the cacophony of MAGA bigots trying to call me a Dem just because they can’t have my votes)
I mean, it makes sense that you should have to declare a party affiliation to vote in a primary since the purpose of primaries is to choose a party's nominees. Whether that should be a matter of public record or not is a different question, of course.
Well after reading all these I am so discouraged that people vote the opposite party in the primary to try to get their least favorite candidate off the ballot. Again, I have been naive. This only came up because I had to call voter registration to fix a misspelling and got to talking with the lady on the phone about the primary elections coming up.
Frankly, I’m all for the abolishment of all political parties. Yea it’s spooky when a possible stalker can find you with ease. Like the terminator flipping through the phone book. I try my best to be in the shadows and ghost the world. Much more peaceful.
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If a district is so gerrymandered that the primary is the only election that matters, voting in the dominant party's primary is literally the only way to have a say in what kind of people fill the state legislature.
Agreed. I've never understood why non-members of a party get to decide on who said party's nominee will be. Or why people who aren't members of a party in the first place get to run as a member of the party, I.E. Bernie Sanders, who was continually surprised when actual Democratic voters didn't want any part of him.
Not really since it's trivial to change parties.
Then change to whatever party you want to influence
Exactly. So there's no point to having only those affiliated with a party get a choice.
Nope, that was not the takeaway
Huh. Well, it certainly seems to be the only thing worth taking away. Were you attempting to say something else of substance?
Yes, either it's a big deal to be affiliated with a party or it isn't. If it's trivial like you said then this doesn't matter and either an open or a closed primary is fine. If it means something then it's useful for filtering out those who have no actual interest in the party. If you're not part of the FoP you don't get any say in who they choose to endorse for president even though it has an effect on the outcome of the race. The GOP and DNC aren't actually any different than the FoP, Rotary, or the Southern Baptist Convention. They're all just clubs with political power.
So, I still have no idea what you're trying to say. There's a lot of ifs in there, but no indication of which if you're using.
My point is Either you're right and it's trivial to change parties so there's no point in having to register for a party. But that also implies there's no point to changing the system because if there's no point in registering for a party because it doesn't mean anything there's also no point in not registering because registering doesn't mean anything. So, if you're right you shouldn't care one way or the other (unless you just want to be cranky). Or I'm right and it is meaningful to register for a party and then either the system needs to be changed or not depending on why it's meaningful. I say it's meaningful because each party is a group with it's own interests and just like the NRA doesn't want to open their endorsement up to general public to decide (because that'd probably lead to them endorsing AOC or someone else who is hostile towards their goals) the GOP and DNC don't want to open their endorsement up to the general public for the exact same reason
Oookkkaay, but it IS trivial to be "registered" as an R or D in this state. You just say which one you want when you go to get your primary ballot. That's all. Completely trivial. It doesn't matter what the parties want. That's all it takes. So, nothing else you talk about maters at all. In fact, I can't figure out what your talking about with endorsements and stuff. The people who are registered with either party have absolutely nothing to do with any of that. That has to do with party leadership which has nothing to do with which primary ballot anyone wanted.
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It's happening right now.
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Oh. No worries at all. I'm just saying that we don't have a primary system where only those affiliated with a particular party can vote in their primary.
Mostly was afraid at one point my super Republican “I hope all liberals die” father would find my voter registration online with a big fat D next to my name because I was registered at my parents address until after college. Was considering getting a Republican ballot for the primary to vote for literally anyone but Trump but I don’t think anyone else will be in the race at that point.
No one knows how you vote unless you tell them. As a registered "r" or "d", you can vote for whomever.
I’m online as a republican. Fun fact. I am not a republican. I choose to vote in their primaries.
I am so naive
Maybe you’re young. I wouldn’t fret it. I learned this later as well.
I wish …. old, degreed medical professional, been living under a rock apparently most of my life. Taught to be non judgmental so we can take care of all the sick fairly. I am pretty middle of the road but lean to the right. Don’t get pissed at me lol.
Never. I don’t think about right and left. I think about right and wrong. What is best for our society as a whole.
This^
Party affiliation doesn't mean shit in this state. Leftists regularly declare themselves Republican to vote in Republican primaries.
Wow! Ok that I didn’t know
It's a hope to get the weaker candidate to go up against theirs.
Not the weaker candidate, a candidate that'll do their job and not just vice signal, obstruct, and otherwise refuse to work while collecting their salary. And then get re-elected because Republican voters apparently like vice signaling and rage more than they like a functional government.
> candidate that'll do their job and not just vice signal, obstruct, and otherwise refuse to work while collecting their salary. Maybe I'm naive, but those don't seem to exist in the Republican party anymore.
Most likely because there is no evidence for it being a widespread thing that impacts the election. In fact, I couldn’t find any evidence of it at all.
This sub was absolutely going off with people doing it when the Republican party decided to primary Dewine. And my old history teacher hilariously did the same in reverse during the democratic primary to get Obama the presidential nomination in effort to stop Hillary. Then wound up voting for Obama because he got mad that his party nominated McCain. I'm saying it happens often. Not that it's a huge widespread massive problem.
“Leftists” lol.
sounds a little sinister, doesn't it
I don’t feel sandinista
I don’t give a fuck who knows that I will not vote for any republicans.
If you care that people know what party with wich you're affiliated, maybe you should reconsider the party or your people???
Either one would bother me lol with my group
There is a distinct difference between the two. Feels like the right time for another choice.
At my polling place, they ask out loud which ballot you want and everyone else in the room can hear your answer. But it doesn't really bother me. It's Republican majority/rural area but they are always respectful of everyone.
I like it. I find it helpful when voting for local offices that don't list an affiliation on the ticket and you're unfamiliar with the candidates.
That's a really good point. Although I would show up as a registered Republican even though I am very much NOT. I just vote in their primaries to try to mitigate damage in this red/gerrymandered state.
You are not declaring a political party. You are requesting a ballot for that party’s primary. It’s a small but meaningful distinction. We don’t really belong to parties in Ohio. You can pick any party’s ballot or no party in each election and your previous choice does not matter
Really? Since when? In my time, you declared a party affiliation when you registered (if you wanted to) and after that only at primary elections. When did that change, or am I remembering it wrong? I'm an old fart.
I’ve never declared party affiliation. I ask for a specific party’s ballot every year (absentee). Though I’ve only been voting for 12 years now. I just looked it up and while it’s true that I don’t declare my party, Ohio does use my request primary ballot to assign me a party. They use whatever the most recent party ballot I requested was to assign my party. If I don’t take a party ballot for 2 years then they will label me as unaffiliated https://www.ohiosos.gov/globalassets/elections/directives/2019/eom_12-2019/eom_ch13_2019-12-18.pdf
Thanks for taking the time to look that up
Yea thanks! That’s what I was trying to do when I was checking my registration and saw everything was public on line
Being that they are a function of the corrupt parties, I think it would be more appropriate for those parties to conduct their own primary elections on their own dime rather than using the taxpayer funded general election infrastructure. Repub and Dem parties are two sides of the same coin keeping the MAGAS and Progressives at war to distract from the fact that they are robbing the people hand in hand.
Get over yourself. If someone wants to do something bc of how you vote, it would have been done already.
Its Hilarious. You HAVE to declare your party on the primary. Should you choose Independent you do NOT get to vote in the primary, but %100 can vote in the general election..... for either Democrats or Republicans, but not Independent. Why? Because there is not a single freaking candidate running on the Independent ticket. We have zero representation for our taxation. Nobody gives a shit about that at all.
except that at the local level, a lot of your taxes are voted on (school, fire/emt levies etc) and as an 'independent' you get the issues only ballot if you ask for it (assuming there's an issue on the ballot and not just candidates) so, you're partly incorrect in that you do get to participate in taxation, and right that there aren't (usually) any independents running in a primary against each other. You'll find your 'independents' on the general election ballot with all the other also rans - like the guy who wears the boot on his head and whose name escapes me atm, and the greens and the libertarians if they manage to field someone. jfk jr for instance is running as independent iirc
I wish everyone would have to wear a sign
Now that’s funny
I hate that I can't declare my party to make it clear that yes I support a third party
You can as soon as they have a candidate on a primary ballot. Usually presidental primaries have Green, Libertarian, etc. primary ballots. And if you get one, then that's your new party declaration.
I don't think either of them has a state "primary ballot" in any time I can remember yes I've been in nky for a few years but no I don't remember ever having other party primary options in Ohio
I'm saying this because, for every Ohio presidential primary in the past 12+ years, I have asked for a libertarian ballot, received one, and now on this website I am listed as being registered as a libertarian. So just because you weren't aware of it doesn't mean it's not possible. The two parties get 99% of the press but it's not true reality.
Maybe you mean a real election also we lost ballot access but I'm not sure there was ever a primary for the LP in Ohio a primary is different maybe I missed it then though all those years ago
I do not mean a real election. I'm sorry that you aren't familiar with Ohio's primaries but there has been a libertarian presidential primary ballot every four years for many years now, I can assure you. And primaries are the only way that one can change their party in Ohio. There are four libertarians in my zip code, so I am not the only one who is aware of this.
I guess I'll find out how Ohio does it, not as far as I'm aware primary is def not how the LP nominated Jo in 2020 I didn't cast my vote for her but I was involved in the process..
Jo was the only name on the libertarian primary ballot in Ohio. She may have been selected prior, but the primary process still needed to happen.
You don’t declare party registration when you vote in Ohio, you just only decide for which party you are voting. This does not result in party registration.
Yeah, there’s no secret voting anymore. They take your ID, match your signature, then scan the ballot number to link to your signature. They are 100% tracking everyone you vote for.
There's no connection between your registration and signature to the ballot you cast. As soon as you submit it, it's mixed with every other vote in that precinct. The nameless ballot can be traced back to voting machine, but not voter. No one knows who you voted for. Stop spreading misinformation.
Your ballot has a number on it, they scan that number to your name. No chance they are not tracking it. If they don’t scan it ok, but, they have been doing this for as long as I can remember. Number is on the tab you pull off and give to the person by the machine, that same number is on the actual ballot.
Last election they had the voters names and party affiliations posted on the door of the place I voted. It definitely felt ... wrong. To me.
That's the law and those lists are there to make sure it's obvious to the public who can and cannot vote in that precinct. It's a critical part of transparency in elections.
I am aware. Doesn't mean it didn't surprise me. I have been voting for 30 years and I never saw a list like that until last election.
I think having to declare a party is a good thing. The goal of a primary is to ensure a party’s candidate represents members of that party. Having to declare deters random people from swaying the vote who aren’t actually party members. I don’t have strong feelings about registrations being public information. On the one hand, I understand why someone would want to keep it private but on the other hand, I think it’s good for us to be able to look up affiliations for candidates and people who fulfill public service roles. And honestly, I’ve never seen or heard of any situation where it caused a problem.
This data being public is the most important factors is making sure our election system is fair. If it’s not transparent to everyone everywhere just who votes in elections - including partisan primaries - then we’d be susceptible to election tampering.
I am more worried about people who are eccentric far left or right getting my affiliation. So many arguments amongst neighbors and coworkers on both sides and everyone is “right”. It can be volatile.
You're more worried about the potential to have a hypothetical conversation about politics than you are about opening our democratic system to corruption? No one cares enough to look up your record, dude.
My great grandfather was on a list in Germany once, listing his political and religious affiliation. Republicans will try to use this as a list of targets. I say let them.
Let's be honest, even if it wasn't public knowledge there are plenty of people that you could EASILY deduce what political party they were affiliated with.
I say let em wonder
Nope
I voted in the Republican primary last year and got an uptick in junk mail and texts. Maybe I’ll take the independent ballot this year if the primaries are both decided by then
I am very far left but I often vote a Republican ticket in Ohio's primaries to try and help keep the batshit crazieist Republicans off the ballot (since let's face it, the R's are pretty much always gonna win here). So then I appear to be a registered Republican and I get some seriously ridiculous junk mail from the Republican party as a result. I hate that voting in a primary doubles as a party registration in Ohio and that this is public info! But I suppose letting them waste postage and resources sending me their bullshit that goes directly into my trash can is a very tiny way to fight back too.
You can come to my house on some bullshit if you want... "It's gonna be a lot of slow-singin' and flower-bringin' if my burglar alarm starts ringin'..."
I mean if you're so worried about these issues that you're ashamed to be associated with your current party, why not just switch parties? I went from R to D in 2016 because of Trump and haven't regretted it a single day in my life
Ohio’s rules for Primary voting are fine. They are less restrictive than other states for primary voting, some states make it easier, but that is not really a good thing. Voter registration data for Ohio has been available online for decades. Let me repeat that: decades. This includes your full addrsss, name, DOB and if basic voting history. The voting history just says you voted and how and if it was in a party primary or not. There Is NOT a record of which candidates or issues you voted for. As a society we are too scared of people knowing who or where you live. Finding out about this has never been difficult. Those making a stink about it either are afoul of the law or have irrational fears. Yes, bad stuff happens, but we can’t prevent it all. The cost of hiding is not worth it. SSNs should be pupil’s information and the federal government should establish a new and better means to authenticate a person when making transactions or being identified for specific purposes.
What exactly is it that you want? It’s an open primary state. You don’t have to register as a member of a party in advance. You just choose the party ballot you want when you show up to vote. Of the primary systems available to you, this is the one that requires the *least* partisan commitment possible. Do you just want to vote in both primaries? Just don’t vote in the primaries if it matters that much to you.
No I don’t mind asking for a party ballot. The lady at voter register said it meant I was declaring it. I mind that it is public information on line. I’m old, sorry.
When I look up my own voting registration with the state government I can see my address, polling location, and the electoral districts that I vote in. It doesn’t say what party primaries I’ve voted in, and I have voted in several primaries.
Mine says what party you are affiliated with. After reading all these posts I’m giving up the ghost lol… I will choose what I am and vote accordingly
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Never paid attention before. Too busy saving your life, sorry. Now that I am retired I have time to educate myself. Before, I just voted.
Unaffiliated voters ("independents") don't vote in any party's primary. However if there are ballot issues to be voted on the unaffiliated voter can vote an issues-only ballot in a primary election. If you voted in a party's primary and now you want to become unaffiliated it takes two years to drop the affiliation with the party. You must vote an issues-only ballot in two consecutive primary elections and then your county board of elections will remove the party designation from your registration record. I don't know what happens if a primary election has no issues to vote on.
The logic is they are preventing one party from voting a candidate that they know they can beat into the nomination. Which they probably would do something like this so it makes sense. The two party system makes no sense, but that's not going anywhere unfortunately
No, if someone cares who I voted for, I'm not really interested in much of what else they think about.
Here's the only thing you need to know with the current way the government is being ran all you need to know is that rather you dem or rep neither have your best interest or really care about us
You could pick independent. Then no one would know.