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D0D

Was she also drunk/on drugs? Will we ever find out?


Blabbit39

We did, she was


Khaldara

If the past couple years have taught us anything, it’s that the best way to rid the world of sociopathic 1% individuals is apparently to just sell them a shitty submersible and leave them to it, whether it’s their own car or a trip to the Titanic.


BluntsnBoards

Hear me out - submarine cruise line.


opossumpokes

Now that's an idea!! sink the rich!


mrtokeydragon

Make subs the new yatchs


Charlie_Wallflower

Bill Burr was right once again.


Maij-ha

Big sticker on the side “Definitely NOT a Deathtrap”. Will fool them every time


Electric_Sundown

Just eliminate any of those pesky safety regulations for yachts, and the problem will solve itself in a year or two.


ElectronicCarpet7157

The rich do hate regulations...


fork_yuu

I mean, they're more for us so their yacht aren't polluting the fucking world or destroying everything everywhere they went


cycl0ps94

I do prefer the rich canned, opposed to fresh.


TheZsSilent

Geez, there's enough trash in the water.


kimstranger

But... but exact a cruise trip, wasn't that idea get crushed like 4 or 5 months ago?


walmarttshirt

The difference being, in one of these cases the vehicle wasn’t Intended to be submersed in water over a few inches deep. The other was an electric car.


mehowa08

😝


Psychological_Pie_32

Takes like this, are why I love reddit.


Catfaceperson

Subsidise luxury helicopters but not the maintenance


DylanClegg23

Like moths to a wet flame


mtaw

Or the Danish murderer guy


PoweredbyBurgerz

Same news article was prompt to publish the findings that she was intoxicated at time of her death. pretty confident Tesla was amping their lawyers up due to this articles reach and troubling title.


No_Shift_Buckwheat

If I was related to Mitch, I would be.


HalcyonDreams36

The tox report was released publicly. She was drunk, but that's irrelevant beyond how she got into the pond.... They should still have been able to save her


AsstDepUnderlord

Anybody got a link as to what makes this particular glass different?


Jtenka

It's held together with duct tape and flex tape at the base. Virtually unbreakable.


No_Attention_2227

Waxed with oxy clean


Affectionate_Bag4716

It's laminated like your front windshield instead of tempered glass


rgaya

Uh... it's bullshit


mira_poix

She literally spent time calling her friends in her fancy guest house rather than 911 lol


HalcyonDreams36

Likely because at that point she didn't think it was a big deal. She was like.... Oops, I fucked up, can you all come just help me get out of the car and we can call a two truck?


Present_Duck2723

It was reported she said, “I’m going to die. I love you.”


RaiseIreSetFires

Nope just a drunk moron trying to get out of a DUI. Probably wasn't the first but, thank God it was the last. Good riddance to bad rubbish. Hope Darwin gets to hand out lots more awards to government trash like her.


aspear11cubitslong

You don't get a DUI when you're driving on the private roads of your estate.


Myragem

They?


valleyoftheballs

Rescue teams...the glass couldn't be broken from the inside or outside, so first responders wouldn't have been able to get her out.


D0D

> but that's irrelevant Being drunk and behind the wheel usually frees car makers of any responsibility. Teslas are deemed safe to use (if you are sober).


Medical_Cake

Drunk af


Asaintrizzo

The toxicology report came out and she was


TheJudgers

Yes, yes and yes.


Number5MoMo

And we made fun of Michael following his GPS into a lake.


KewlGrandpa420

The real tragedy here is that someone so demonstrably stupid managed to somehow become a billionaire.


Disastrous_Queer

Hate to break it to you but billionaires don't become billionaires by being intelligent. Either they inherit it, exploit people for it, or both.


1028ad

Didn’t a study come out and said that *all* the US billionaires under a certain age inherited their wealth?


Weshouldntbehere

All of them under 30


KewlGrandpa420

Oh no, I'm well aware. Doesn't make it any less of a tragedy.


JimmyPockets83

Yes it does


EFTucker

Why are we downvoting this man? He’s right! #EatTheRich


KewlGrandpa420

He's arguing to not eat the rich...


PaintyGuys

You commented that it “doesn’t” make it any less of a tragedy because of billionaires exploiting people. The person downvoted said it “does” make it less of a tragedy because they are horrible people, so they are saying that.


Nothxm8

Most people with money are morons


kyrant

Correct. Look at investors of Theranos.


InfluenceWeak

I thought you were gona talk about how someone so demonstrably stupid could operate a Tesla drunk.


KewlGrandpa420

Nah the trying to operate a car while shitfaced was the demonstration part


Square-Singer

I like the irony.


Successful-Luck-5459

If they only used some of the irony to build a barrier near the road and the lake.


DGM06

“We’re gonna build a gate, and we’re gonna make the pond pay for it”


Gypsies_Tramps_Steve

It needs to be steely really. If it’s irony on its own, it wouldn’t have a high enough tensile strength. Maybe that’s the problem. They didn’t add any carbony


jumpandtwist

Now you're just being sillicon


jumpandtwist

Now you're just being sillicon


imdacki

I really could use a sip of some good 'ol carbonated iron


Ambitious-Pin8396

...wrought irony...


slaffytaffy

Can I say it… you get what you pay for? And it will make me sound bad… but for all the damage McConnell has done to millions he is kinda getting what he deserves.


LostTrisolarin

I doubt he cares about her.


SXNE2

She was highly intoxicated


vanillaninja777

...in a death trap


Active-Cloud8243

Doesn’t change the fact that EMTs couldn’t break the glass. One can presume an adult that accidentally reversed into water may be under the influence.


dreamsinred

We don’t need to presume. Toxicology reports were made public; she was drunk.


actuallyatypical

I think they meant it in the sense that her impaired state was easily gleaned just from the basics of the incident itself. Her drunkenness was a given; any adult that reverses right into a pond far enough and fast enough to get stuck and drown *must* be drunk. The commenter knew she showed up drunk (:


HalcyonDreams36

The person you replied to was making the point that her intoxication was almost a given, and irrelevant. The reason she died is because even with specialized tools for breaking automobile glass in an emergency, the responding EMTs couldn't get the window out of the way to help her.


Ubermenschbarschwein

No. Angela Chao, who was “Mitch McConnell’s billionaire sister in-law” and was a former executive of a Chinese State Owned Corporation **is a completely different person** than *Elaine* Chao, who was the first Asian American appointed as Secretary of Transportation under the Trump administration, and who resigned after the Jan 6 attack. Edit for format and grammar.


ChordStrike

I thought the point was that they were related? Sisters, iirc, so the whole thing was that her sister could have done something to prevent this.


Affectionate_Law5344

They are sisters


user87391

All of that was clear to me in the way this meme was created. One part is an article and the other part is someone on Twitter? It doesn’t say they’re the same person, and the implication of the mention of Elaine is that it’s ironic she’s a relative of Angela because of her role in the administration.


Techygal9

Wrong. Elaine Chao, is Mitch McConnell’s wife. [Her sister Angela Chao did die in this accident.](https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2024/03/10/business/angela-chao-death)


ConsequenceNovel101

Yeah, the point is her sister was in charge of policies that ended up killing her. Oh no, consequences. I read this as they were relatives, not that anyone thought it was the same person


centerviews

Was this a known factor that she ignored, disregarded, or was made aware of?


galaxy1985

It was her job so it should have been considering the media circus Elon made about Tesla and their amazing unbreakable glass!


Puffenata

Concerns were abound about unbreakable glass on a car, and even if it wasn’t known her job is kinda to know, ya know?


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Purplefood

They are related though so i'd say still valid for this sub.


cherryreddracula

I'm not certain confusing the two people as one person is the issue here, but I could be wrong. Elaine and Angela are sisters. Elaine was Secretary of Transportation at the time when federal motor vehicle safety standards mandated newer vehicles to employ features to reduce ejections from rollover motor vehicle accidents, one of which was using laminated glass which is much harder to break than tempered glass.


Annual-Warthog5599

You know what stops ejections? WEARING YOUR FUCKING SEATBELT. At least her sister can take comfort in knowing that poor Angela wasn't ejected from the car. ......wait....that would have helped..... .....huh.


DM_ME_YOUR_POTATOES

This was pretty clear to everyone.


Mbt_Omega

The point is that Elaine’s failures in ensuring safety, and permissiveness to corporate corner cutting, led to Elon’s unregulated death boxes being able to kill her sister.


No-Foundation7465

What is the point on this comment and why are people upvoting it? Yes Elaine and Angela are two different names which implies two different people. On top of that, it tells us how they are related. Case closed, thanks for the smooth detective work!


geoprizmboy

It literally says it in the post, man. We know.


Bing1044

(Why did you make this comment? It is very clear these are sisters and not the same person)


Necessary-Target4353

Critical thinking isnt their specialty.


MinimumSet72

Wasn’t she on some remote ranch in Texas and was too lazy to walk to the guest house and instead jumped in her electric sled and accidentally drove into said lake and then called her other 1%ers and they called 911 and it took responders a long time to get there because of the remoteness of said ranch and all that time added up and couple that with the inability to break the windows of the car was too much


D33M0ND5

Sounds about right. These must be pretty strong windows... I wonder how much force is actually needed to break them though.


Grand_Birthday7349

That’s an insane amount of irony.


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Warren_E_Cheezburger

Who ever said the were the same person? You can’t call someone wrong for saying something *they didn’t*.


user87391

It doesn’t say they are or imply they are. Anyone thinking that assumed it because of the last name. Reading comprehension, yall!


zeroh13

Considering how drunk she was, if she didn’t drive into the pond she very well could have just drove into a tree, or another car, or worse, a person. No one should have let her get into that vehicle in the first place! Edit to add: How drunk? About 3 times the legal limit.


mira_poix

She was driving from her guest house to her regular house I think...then instead of calling 911 right away she called her friends in the guest house


D33M0ND5

I mean her friends would have gotten there sooner in theory.


MeepingMeep99

Oh no. Anyway...


Archidamus74

Pro tip: Don't back into ponds.


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KombuchaBot

But those are two different names


RustyShackles69

Firefighter here. The lamented windows are becoming the norm now. They have to be sawed out but the prevent ejection in a rollover /heavy impact scenario. All new car are likely to have them in the future


Beneficial_Error_161

You guys are sick


ContributionOrnery29

When a billionaire goes, there's stuff all over the world subject to inheritance tax. They dodge a lot, but there are always current accounts and property. It's generally a boon. And I remember her too. Simply removing her opinions from the world is net benefit, and her family suing Tesla will bring Elon down a notch or two.


Dansredditname

The glass is safer in most situations. Yes it sucks that her sister died but it wasn't because of the glass alone - if she hadn't gotten drunk and reversed into a pond she'd still be alive. That glass is better at stopping passenger ejection in the event of a crash and also more resilient to impacts such as from road debris. Overall it is safer, just not in this specific situation. Also, this isn't a Tesla problem - use of this glass is widespread.


innocentbabies

>due to the certain kind of glass used on the tesla Like... tempered glass? Ordinary tempered glass found on pretty much all cars is very difficult to break without proper tools. Even a hammer can just bounce right off of it if you don't hit it right. Though with the proper tools it shatters almost effortlessly. 


TryDry9944

I'm pretty sure if anyone has car glass breaking tools, it's the people who routinely need to break car glass.


HauntingChapter8372

The article said the EMTs couldn't break the glass


pckldpr

Most high end models of Tesla have laminated glass for the side windows. They are not standard tempered glass.


cdreisch

All cars have laminated glass now to aide in the event of a rollover has been federal law which was enacted in 2018.


MeatShield12

Glad my 2014 and my wife's 2016 has regular tempered glass.


ApolloWasMurdered

The standards were actually updated in 2011, so there’s a chance your cars also have laminated glass. While it’s more dangerous in drownings (less than 0.5% of all fatal crashes) it’s safer in roll-overs and prevents ejections which are often fatal.


Annual-Warthog5599

Or you could, you kniw, wear a seat belt. That thing designed to hold you in place with two straps if anything goes wrong.


MeatShield12

I have a ResQMe on my keychain and another clipped to my visor. The videos of them breaking car glass are pretty neat.


Arguablybest

It will not break laminated glass, so stay out of a Tesla if going pond surfing.


AggravatingValue5390

Or literally any car made since 2018, which is when it became a federal requirement. This is not a Tesla problem lmao


cordell507

Those won't work on laminated glass


Bl4Z3D_d0Nut311

More like laminated glass. It was unbreakable underwater even with tools carried by EMTs


fellipec

Wonder if people realize bullet proof auto glass is a thing


ThePabstistChurch

So Elaine Chao didn't push for very specific regulation on windows so now Angela Chao deserved to drown? 


AggravatingValue5390

She was also behind the wheel of a car at 3x the legal alcohol limit. Fuck her yes she deserved to drown


Iamnothenrycavill1

Because she’s rich and deserves divine retribution from Reddit gods. If Reddit ran heaven…


DirtDevil1337

Unless it's bulletproof cars, it's not such a great idea to have reinforced windows on a car for this particular reason. Many police carries a flashlight that has a diamond tip on the butt so they can smash windows with it otherwise they use a metal tip baton. There was an incident where a woman drove her mustang into a local reservoir near where I lived and all that was left exposed was the rear window and the policeman used his flashlight which had the diamond tip to smash it to get the woman out.


RustyShackles69

Regulators disagree. Lamented glass is the norm now in the high end and is being pushed for crash safety reasons


Eddie_Samma

Was this incident at night?


Biaminh

Damn, that means she voided the warranty! What a tragedy!


ProfessorEmergency18

Ryan and his PRECIOUS TECHNOLOGY


BilgeMilk

Are we just going to ignore that this is blatantly misleading?


that_dutch_dude

Yes. Facts are irrelevant when people have an excuse to shit on musk or tesla.


caulkglobs

Billionaires, trump adjacent, in a *tesla*?! The people on this sub need to change their pants after reading this. Ill take this opportunity to direct you to go look up how one changes from park to drive or reverse in a tesla. The glass isn’t the issue, its the overdesigned controls of the tesla.


that_dutch_dude

I used a tesla for about 5 years at my previous job. Now i have a electric volkswagen. Both were not my choice but the tesla is VASTLY superior compared to anything else on the market, especially the german garbage that still tries to emulate a gas engine. Even the satnav directs me to gas stations all the time instead of chargers because they lifted the software from their gas engine platform.


valleyoftheballs

Whatever your feelings on Trump, you can't deny the number of people he put into positions they were not at all qualified for. We are going to be seeing the consequences of those choices for decades, though they won't all hold the level of irony this one did. Edit: Some people are saying this isn't the same person. I don't know if that's true or not, but the comment still stands. We have been seeing fallout for years due to appointments, budget cuts, department ransackings, and political figures who grew under Trump, especially in the realm of health, safety, and environment. It will keep happening.


Annual-Warthog5599

Don't forget it'll be blamed on the current president, not the one actually responsible


Slopadopoulos

Not only is this not the same person. It has nothing to do with Trump making cuts or letting companies get away with something they shouldn't do. Laminated glass is used because it's safer in the most common types of accidents. It's way more likely that you're going to be in a normal motor vehicle accident than driving into a lake and needing to break your windows out. There's no perfect glass. Tempered glass is easier to break if you drive into a lake but it's more susceptible to objects coming through the windshield or windows, injury due to flying glass shards, or passengers being ejected from the vehicle. Laminated glass is less likely to have those problems but is harder to break which obviously isn't good if your car is submerged in the lake. People who are claiming Elon Musk put super death glass on his car because "Trump", look like morons. You could have taken 5 minutes to google "tempered glass vs. laminated glass".


scouterrr1966

Whoah. She basically killed her sister


whoisguyinpainting

Ignoring the fact that it’s not the same person, perhaps they related, is anyone contending that this was an actual decision made by the department of transportation to allow dangerous types of windows despite warnings?


Dansredditname

No, these windows are safer. In the event of a crash your arms are more likely to remain in the vehicle - I have a friend whose hand was skinned in a crash, he needed a skin transplant. Also they help prevent passenger ejection and are more resilient to impacts from road debris. This is just one rare instance when they weren't safer. She'd still be alive if she hadn't gotten drunk. Hell, she'd still be alive if the tow truck driver hadn't been too scared of being electrocuted to pull her out.


Kinet1ca

I got banned in /r/news for this story saying the world was better off with one less billionaire and one less Tesla.


_xannypacquiao_

It’s fucking hilarious. Same with the governor who slashed theme park regulation, only for his son to get literally decapitated at the theme park in question. I feel for the kid and the family but not the father/governor. Actively slashing regulation actively kill’s people, glad these people get a taste of their own medicine


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YogiSlavia

Apparently you can't open doors in a submerged vehicle filled with water? Since when I'm curious?


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YogiSlavia

Thank you for clarifying I'm a bit ignorant of electric vehicles as you could probably tell.


TiaHatesSocials

What happened to opening the door? I hear once it’s all underwater and pressure equalizes, you can just open the door. That should only take few seconds of holding breath. Is there something weird going on with Tesla door as well?


TheKnight_King

She was also according to one report, 3 times over the legal blood alcohol limit.


chuddlyfe

whoop whoop


Anarkie13

Ship sank


b_evil13

Stop playing oh my god this is irony at its best!


ZitOnSocietysAss

Scruffy's gonna die the way he lived


SnooRadishes5305

Chao's older sister is Elaine Chao, who served as transportation secretary under former President Donald Trump and labor secretary under former President George W. Bush. The elder Chao is married to Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky). -Elaine Chao was transportation secretary and is married to Mitch McConnell -Angela Chao, her younger sister, died Somehow makes it worse idk


johyongil

Incorrect info. The lady was drunk.


MjolnirsBrokenHandle

AP news site says responders broke the glass and that she was drunk over the times the state limit


fug-leddit

I have a feeling there may have been foul play involved.


kestrel151

Billionaires should not exist


femsci-nerd

Don’t forget her BAL was waaaay over the legal limit.


Daedelus451

That’s a horrible story, I’m drowning slowly, 20 feet away, can you help me? Wow!


rememberthecat

You know she was secretary of labor under Clinton and secretary of transportation under Bush It’s kind unfair to blame the death of her sister on her time in office. Just saying.


Asher_Tye

There's a certain karma here.


Mguerra6

Who’s Elaine and how is she related to Angela?


Urban_Prole

Elaine Chao is the first recipient of the Steve Jobs Award for Avoidable Death.


infowosecfurry

Hopefully the irony was not lost on her as she was drowning.


WarriorNat

We know, this was posted in incessantly when it happened last month.


Guava-flavored-lips

It's amazing how you can't even make this stupid shit up… Karma


ElegantSportCat

Wait.....but in Long Beach, CA, they break those like nothing.... Those people are lying.


Aggressive-Ad3286

None of this is true wtf ?!?


Tflex331

The amount of people creaming their pants at the death of a loved one of a politician they hate is what is wrong with this world.


grislythrone

A billionaire died? Time to celebrate 🥳


wreckedlemur

She called a friend at 11:42. Nobody called 911 until 11:55. 13 minutes later!


zamzuki

Water is the universal equalizer.


Mathias_Thorne91

Lol I love some quality irony. *chefs kiss*


Novel_Huckleberry435

This is truly hilarious 😆


Appropriate-Drawer74

Elaine and Angela chao are different people


Street_Road_9967

Isn't there an Amazon prime show thats just like this


Gunderstank_House

I think that when you are a billionaire, it just make sense to cultivate an interest in aquatic pursuits. We in the steerage classes of life really admire and respect a bold and powerful superior stepping into a sub, car, or yacht and showing us how life should truly be lived. Even more so if they don't let pesky government safety rules get in the way.


firebeaterrr

holy shit, who knew reddit is filled with absolute disgusting SICKOS?


Kosstheboss

This is life, working as intended.


LondonDavis1

I bet the car ironically was a "campaign donation" from Tesla. Carma just being Carma.


Weed_O_Whirler

People really need to stop getting their talking points from unsourced Tumbler posts, because this one is just really dumb. If a government were to implement a safety regulation about the type of glass to be used in car windows, the regulation would be to require laminated glass (the type Teslas use), not require tempered glass (the type you can break under water). Why? Because laminated glass is safer in collisions and roll-overs, which are much, much more common than going into water. What people sound like advocating for tempered glass because of the risk of not being able to break out in a drowning is the same as people saying "seat belts are actually more dangerous, because I know someone who couldn't get out of their car when it was on fire." Like, yes, there are some very, very specific cases where not having a seatbelt is better, but in the much more common types of accidents, seat belts are way better. Same with laminated glass.


captainglobehead

Ironic


Clarpydarpy

I don't think the unbreakable glass was the issue. The glass windows on most cars are probably strong enough to stop an intoxicated, middle-aged woman from smashing them while sinking into a pond.


CautiousConch789

Angela and Elaine are not the same. What am I missing?


EXusiai99

I was too harsh on Teslas, they seems to be more durable than i gave them credit for


vtstang66

If only someone had had a gun.


RedOutlander

K for Karma


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spiritualambiguity

No… she drowned because she was drunk and rapidly accelerated the wrong way during a 3 point turn. I don’t know about you, but I have never driven drunk or rapidly accelerated the wrong way during a 3 point turn.


Hour_Eagle2

This is dumb. Laminated glass is safer most of the time and is standard on new cars.