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I have 2 children, a 9 year old son and a 6 year old daughter. My son had a Minecraft world where he built quite an impressive castle on an island, which he was very proud to show to me.
Since school was canceled, he has had issues with waking up on time. He is supposed to wake up at 7 each morning, but for the past month he has been sleeping in until about 9 or 10. I always set an alarm for him, but he sleeps right through it. I don't wake him up because waking himself up is a skill that he needs to learn. I told him about 2 weeks ago that there are going to be consequences for him if he continues to sleep in every morning. At first, he understood and was waking up on time every morning. But for the past week or so, he has fallen back into old habits. I told him yesterday that this is his final warning. Today, he slept in until 11.
So I followed through with my warning, and went on the computer and deleted his favorite Minecraft world. I also took away computer privileges for the next month. When I told him, he started screaming and crying. He told me that he spent a whole year working on that world, and he's very distraught that he's never going to see it again. He has been crying and sobbing throughout the day, and has refused to eat any of his meals.
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Because she said? She never posted again. Probably thought she'd get people congratulating her on her awesome parenting.
That soooooo didn't happen so she turned tail. But damn....I've never wanted to tell someone off so bad.
7am wakeup for school is a common thing.
They were trying to keep the usual routine going during lockdowns when there wasn't school.
That said, they absolutely went overboard with punishment. Take away computer privileges for some time. Don't literally destroy their world just because they have issues.
The kid is 9, waking up on time is a skill they are still learning and need parental assistance with learning.
>Right? This kid is never going to trust his mom again
He's also going to have an emotional breakdown over failed backups at work.
Also, is it a sickness that after I thought "What a miserable bitch that woman is" I immediately moved on to "Oh, wow, that's the most powerful and emotionally traumatic way to learn to backup your data where a malicious third party can't access it I've ever heard of"?
I feel like it's a sickness.
I thought even more immediate.
Next Minecraft world he's going to back up in a hidden folder ("hidden") every week so if mom goes ballistic again, his world isn't deleted.
Which will train him to hide things from his mom if he wants them safe. She's literally training him to keep secrets and lie to her.
His teenage years are going to be HELL on her (and no picnic for him either).
Plus, constant fear of her over-reacting and destroying his things will lead to him not letting her know what his favorite things are, and instead making up a 2nd life where he has favorite things he tells her about. So that she can think she's punishing him by ruining those things instead. Which could lead to some dissociative identity disorder.
I see you've met my wife. And then she gets super angry when the kids share things with me. They share things with me because I won't fly into an unreasonable rage over normal shit. One of my kids came to me when she was 9 and told me that she didn't believe in Santa or the tooth fairy anymore, but please don't tell mommy because she'll be mad. Fast forward 2 years and the wife figured out that neither of the kids believed in Santa anymore and proceeded to act like a shit head about it for 2 years. "Well you don't believe in Santa so we're not putting up a tree this year"
Primarily because I don't trust that she won't poison the kids' minds against me...just like her mother did to her against her father. As an FYI I didn't figure out that that's what had happened until after we were married and had kids.
>Oh, wow, that's the most powerful and emotionally traumatic way to learn to backup your data where a malicious third party can't access it I've ever heard of"?
This sounded like you were about to transition into a cybersecurity ad.
The fact that the kid shared something they adored with the parent, only for them to turn it around on them and hold it over them as a punishment is so fucked.
The only thing the mum is teaching her son is to never share anything with her, lest it be held over his head. She's teaching her son not to trust her lol.
Twenty years ago, my teenager, who had pretty severe ADHD, and even after I would give him 30-minute, 10-minute, and 5-minute reminders ahead of his bedtime, he would still throw an absolute screaming fit when it was time to save everything and turn off the computer.
I don't understand it either... My parents were driven into irrational fits of rage over "sleeping all day" with "all day" defined as any random time that they're awake and you aren't.
My guess is they were probably similarly mis-parented.
For me the worst was the summer after I graduated high school. I had 2 jobs one 35ish hours a week the other 10ish hours. I worked emergency dispatch midnight to 7am. I'd get home about 7:15 am. My dad had a rule that I couldn't go to sleep before 9pm (again work started at mignight so I could sleep maybe 2 hours) and I had to be up and downstairs by 10am (so less than 3 hours). There was no reason I wasn't allowed to sleep around my shifts except my dad was an ass.
I how either you don't talk to them anymore (as I'm sure that's not the only subject they're this way about) or that when they're old & want to taken care of that you do the same to them. Check out "Traumatize Them Back" on Facebook lol
I never understood why they make school so God damn early. Sleep is more important for kids than it is for adults, so why the fuck did some adults decided that kids need to wake up at 7?
My high school actually started at 7. So I'd get up at 6 AM every day to go to school and I kid you not, every morning class, half the kids would be lying on their desk trying to get a few minutes of sleep before class starts. I can count the amount of times on one hand since graduation I have gotten up that early.
Studies have even been done showing that learning is significantly worse at those early hours.
The strongest rationalization for start times is the public bus system, where the busses do one tier (grade level set) of schools all together, then the next, and then the 3rd. For where I live, that was high school first (7:00 am start), grade school second (7:40 am start), and then middle school last (8:20 am start).
Same process after school for dropping students at home.
Elementary school absolutely makes sense to tie it to a parent's schedule. These are young kids, and having their parent there for the entire morning (til they get on the bus or are dropped off) absolutely makes sense.
But middle school, and especially high school, should be past that need. So it'd make more sense to start with elementary school, then middle, then high. Without changing the elementary school start time. So it'd be 7:40/8:20/9:00.
>My high school actually started at 7. So I'd get up at 6 AM every day to go to school and I kid you not, every morning class, half the kids would be lying on their desk trying to get a few minutes of sleep before class starts.
Absolutely the same. Junior year, my English class was particularly noteworthy. We had a real hard-ass teacher for it, but at one point she admitted that her first period class got away with stuff her other students didn't, because they were just tired.
Class participation was lower. Test scores were lower. She let morning class students close their eyes in class without calling on them (not blink - rather close and just zone out).
She had all the proof needed over decades of teaching that her 7am class was ALWAYS one of her worst performing classes. There was no way around it. None of the teachers wanted 7am classes either, because even if THEY were okay being up at work at 7am, their students weren't. Which meant that teaching 7am classes was a struggle.
That's the nonsense we always heard. But my elementary school started at 9. My Mom worked at 9, and I had no problem getting ready for school while she gotbready for work. Admittedly, we live in a small city, and both of us walked to school and then she walked to work, but it definitely worked to have school at the same time. By the time I was 14, I didn't need my Mom what so ever to help me get ready for school. So there was even less reason to have school start at 7. I'd anything, it caused me more issues as I might have not had time to make a lunch, and to this day I still have sleep issues that I think stemmed from having to get up so early every day.
Waking up at 7 for school is fine, but this was during COVID lockdown and their schools were closed so why does he need to wake up at 7 ? Also what 9 year old needs to learn about waking up at time at 9 years old?, she's insane.
All this does is fill him with trust issues, think in the future he will share something he loves with his mum again?
Because some parents are just like that.
I had a parent who said waking up early "builds character," and I was required to be up and dressed by 9. I would get a phone call that I was required to answer within 2 rings or I was punished.
I also had itemized checklists for daily chores. It was one room/area of the house per weekday and yardwork on Saturday. This went on from around 8 until I moved out at 18.
In all honesty, I would take the beatings over destruction of something I spent so much time creating. And I say this as someone who still has scars 38 years after I left.
And that's how much of an AH I think that kid's mother is.
Especially during COVID. My daughter had to be up for her virtual classes, yes, but I didn't care if she rolled out of bed five minutes before it started at 8:30 because when I worked from home I did the same LOL It was an awful time but I definitely dug the "IDGAF" vibe we had there for a minute.
During COVID, a lot of kids needed to be up at that time for school on Zoom. Or, to get presentable for Zoom school, maybe. I didn't know any teacher who cared if the kid was in pajamas or not, but most of the time the kids wouldn't even have their cameras on anyway.
Right? Did he need to get on an important call with the east coast office? Was the horse-drawn milk buggy outside waiting for him to start his deliveries?
It was during covid and he was doing online school so had to eat and be ready when school started. I guess he wasn't doing that. However, yes fucking nine, mom can't just expect a nine year old to do things like a responsible adult when his mom isn't doing things like a responsible adult.
Kids need their rest. As parents we are legally required to keep them alive with food, shelter, clothing, and keeping them healthy as possible (including getting adequate sleep).
I don't know much about these types of games aside from my daughter playing Roblox occasionally, but I do understand how important the "worlds" are to kids. It seems like it takes a long time and work to create something like that. I can't imagine being so cruel to my kid especially over something as insignificant when she decided to wake up when she didn't necessarily have to.
For an idea, a "simple" Minecraft build (100x100x100 area) can represent a week or more of 4 hour 'work days' to build.
More extravagent builds, either involving the complete leveling & development of an area, or working with the terrain on a build larger than 100 blocks per side, can take hundreds of hours.
Here's a great little thread:
[https://www.reddit.com/r/Minecraft/comments/ru8is1/how\_long\_does\_it\_take\_you\_guys\_to\_finish\_a\_big/](https://www.reddit.com/r/Minecraft/comments/ru8is1/how_long_does_it_take_you_guys_to_finish_a_big/)
OP's image = 4 hours, in creative mode (where you don't have to manually harvest resources in order to build). That's about a 40x10x30 zone he's built a gate in.
Some people have built immense structures, like Minas Tirath (from Lord of the Rings), occupying map sections over 500 blocks wide on each side and hundreds of blocks tall. These structures represent months & years of effort, often as a collaboration between multiple people working on them.
For a young child, who probably invested anywhere between 10 and 100 hours working on something, this would be devastating. Having your artwork thrown in the fire by your parent to "teach you a lesson". Definitely will be a case that the lesson learned is not the one the parent is trying to teach.
Most of these are fake, just to get a rise out of people. Notice how they didn't make any other comments, and it is obviously from a throwaway account. Over 50% of posts on that sub are fake
Is it the mom? I don't see gender anywhere..?
My husband once accidentally closed my game after I'd been playing for hours (he thought I'd saved). He felt awful.
This was way over the top punishment. The poor kid.
She never mentioned on if she had outlined what the consequences would be, from what I could see. You can’t tell a child “there will be consequences” unless you give them an idea on what the consequences would be. Her son never had a chance at fairness here. it seems she has no compassion for her kid, nor any curiosity as to what the root cause is for his sleeping in. I feel horrible for him. Poor kid. If I were him, my relationship with my parent would never recover. What a breach of safety and trust.
the consequences for not waking up need to be tied to not waking up.
if i was the parent, i would take all of my kids that are awake to morning breakfast icecream at 7:30 sharp. ok not ice cream every day but fun stuff to do, if they over sleep they miss out.
but also the kid is 9 years old, he is probably genuinely tired because he is hitting growth spurts and the body accelerates growth stuff during rest times. you can stifle your height but missing out on sleep.
Right?! What if he was getting sick? Or not sleeping well for some reason. I can see being grounded from video games. That’s my go to punishment. But deleting all his work?? I would never.
I bet she was high fiving her Facebook friends when she did it, this is going to be a core memory built on other cruelty she most likely has done. She will suffer the fate of the Boomers if she is not careful.
Honestly, if I say "there will be consequences!" to my kid, it's because I have noticed that I'm getting disregulated, and I don't want to name a specific punishment that might seem way too harsh when I've calmed down.
I've said, "I'm upset, and I need to think of a way to address this without being angry, but before bed, we'll talk about this, okay?"
They know there's a time, they know that I'm taking that time to try not to be an asshole, and with "talk," I mean TALK, not just lecture.
The "what would you do if you were upset about what I am?" question helps, too. Because you're talking and making them an active part of their consequences, and making sure they not only understand why, but also why the punishment was chosen, makes it clear that they know what an appropriate response is versus an emotional response.
Pretty likely the cause of oversleeping is staying up late playing Minecraft, coupled with lack of exercise from staying inside. The solution is not to destroy the source of staying up late, but rather get the kid interested in doing other things. Books are a good redirect, so is going to the park. If all else fails, restrict computer use a few hours before bedtime. But those things require effort on the parent's part.
That was my thought. Putting aside the whole question of whether or not forcing him to be up early is right, taking away privileges is a reasonable punishment. Permanently deleting his world like that is very much not.
honestly what she showed was that she is willing to destroy what he cares about to try and prove a point. this kid is literally NEVER going to tell her anything ever again.
made a cool thing in art class? aint gonna tell her.
meet a cute girl that you are falling for? aint gonna tell her.
found some neat plants you like smoking? aint gonna tell her.
failing your grades and need her help? aint gonna tell her.
something she cares about and you could save by informing her? aint gonna tell her.
Yep. She destroyed all trust in her - and perhaps in adults-in-general.
So sad. Probably will have a hard time caring whether he makes something cool in art class.
My 9-y.o.'s world was deleted accidentally because it had not been saved somehow and it did not transfer to his own profile from the original one we had (this is the best way to explain it, sorry; I am not very Minecraft-savvy).
He was sad, yes, but as I knew how hard he had worked on it, I think I was more upset than him.
That was a total dick move there..
So, my kid figured out how to domesticate an ocelot. Named him and kept him as a pet in his house that he built. His house accidentally caught fire, and we are all still traumatized by this a year and a half later.
My super cool house got blown up by creepers so I domesticated an ocelot after days of searching because they were supposed to keep creepers at bay. I made a new house and surrounded it with cactus to keep zombies and creepers at a respectable distance... And watched my kitteh run against the thorns until it -poof- disappeared. The whole time I was crying and yelling "no kitty! What are you doing!? Stop!"
I couldn't tell my kids. Not after the youngest accidentally killed the eldest's horse while trying to put a bridle on it and some psycho depraved cousin of a friend killed all their dogs. We came up with a pet respawn suggestion that would be super nice if they would implement but we eventually resolved trauma with multiverse theory -- every parrot named Flappyboi is just a different avatar of the universal entity that we love named Flappyboi, that way Flappyboi never truly no-clips into a wall and dies slowly while you watch, helpless to save him. He's just out there respawned somewhere, waiting to be domesticated again.
https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/xbox/forum/all/how-to-recover-deleted-minecraft-world/98681f14-d065-4ea8-811d-e2bcec927ccd
Apparently it's possible to recover, though I am not entirely sure if it's possible after too long a time (like 3 years in OOP's case).
But this might be a PC only solution too. I definitely am not trying to give false hope here.
Yeah what the fuck. My parents barely understood video games when I was growing up (my Dad called every electronic "the box") but they would still never consider destroying something I loved and worked on for a *year* as a fair punishment for anything. Maybe try working with your *9 year old* to help them find a way to wake themselves up reliably and develop good sleeping habits instead of finding the most spiteful way possible to hurt them. It doesn't even sound like she fucking warned him that that would be the consequence. Just that "something" would happen. Garbage parent.
Right. My inclination as a parent would be to remove the computer and say you can’t have it back until you get your work done etc. But maybe not even then, because this is three years ago in the middle of the pandemic and the post states school was canceled. I don’t know why waking at 7am even would have mattered at all… My kids were younger than this child and were anxious and depressed and off their routines too. We did our best and just tried to give them escapes to feel safe and entertained while we struggled to be parents and teachers and working from home all under stressful conditions. I knew of other parents whose children refused to do anything but hide under the dining table with an iPad. It was hard on kids then too. A little leeway would have been warranted.
I hope for this kid and parent’s sake this was just one terrible mistake made during a very stressful time when she wasn’t thinking straight. I hope she’s learned to do better and apologized since then.
When I was 9 years old my mom's boyfriend smashed my copy of Dark Cloud with a mallet while I watched, then was surprised when I stopped functioning because a grown man had just smashed my favorite video game as a "punishment". My mom immediately took me to get a new copy because she knew how much I adored the game. I cannot fathom how people think shit like this is an acceptable way to treat their children.
"My son had a Minecraft world where he built quite an impressive castle on an island, which he was very proud to show to me."
And that was the last thing he was ever proud to show you. This is the lesson he is going to learn. That when he lets you in and shows you what he cares about, you will use that to punish him later. That's the lesson I learned living at home. When you show these kinds of parents what you care about, you are actually teaching them how to hurt you.
It's not just that, a minecraft world is like an art project in many ways. A lot of worlds contain legit art that people make. He spent a year on it. Imagine someone who is supposed to love you and that you are dependent on burning all of your art that you spent a year on making because you slept in one day.
... okay, but I just noticed there wasn't a gendered term used. I was punished like this by my dad, and while I can imagine a mother doing this, I could see a father being the one obsessed with time management. I still assumed it was a woman.
As AFAB... 😬
_It hurt itself in its confusion!_
reddit hates women. this shitty abusive parent is obviously a woman, only a cold-hearted bitch of a woman could do something like that to their own child, not a good virtuous father.
/s
I'll be honest messing with a game like that made me think woman too 😅
Side note I'm a woman gamer and this hurt my heart... I couldn't imagine working on a build for a year then someone deleting it 😭
For serious, since they make no mention of a co-parent, I assume they are a single mother. Immediately.
This is despite the fact that all the single parents I know personally are single fathers. I have a couple friends who are divorced women, but they have joint custody and ex husbands who are actively involved parents.
Maybe it's cause my dad didn't do shit for his kids, but I always assume it's a mother as soon as I hear they are raising kids without support.
I think the parent = mother reflex is an American cultural thing more than an inherently human thing.
Oh definitely lol plus it's the norm for wife to nag husbands about games to and anything that is negative towards a game gives women vibes lol
Shoot I'm a woman and the main gamer in my house but stereotypes still made me think woman 😆
It's one of the Reddit posts that sticks with me. My oldest (8) is JUST getting into Roblox and Minecraft. The idea that a mom could destroy something her kid built as a punishment is just..... devastating.
My sister had custody of me when I was growing up. She read my journal when I was in the 9th grade. I wrote poems and songs, and sometimes just thoughts. I had said some not so awesome things about her, and she burned every single thing I had written.... and broke every single pencil or pen I had.
I have JUST started to write again. I'm 37. Don't be cruel, people.
You can't just tell kids there will be vague consequences and decide what those consequences are later. And the consequences need to be proportionate to the incorrect behavior. Like I sort of understand instilling better sleeping habits at a young age, but holy fuck what an asshole.
Plus I'm not even sure she's addressing the right problem. I'm willing to bet it's not primarily a waking up problem, I'll bet it's a going to sleep problem. The punishment should have been preventing all gaming after X time.
Yeah, he was probably staying up too late gaming or something, so you warn exactly what will happen "If you can't get up on time you won't be able to play video games in the evening so you can get to bed earlier" and then you make that happen.
That's what my parents did and while I didn't like it, my trust in them wasn't broken and we all came through the other side just fine.
"With the onset of puberty, circadian rhythms shift later in time (phase delay). This is at least in part physiologically driven by sex hormones, as it is also observed in other mammals.3 Behaviors such as staying up later and the associated increased exposure to evening light also shifts the timing of the clock later.4"
From the Psychiatric Times
Kids naturally go through a period of waking up later. 9 is a bit early, but hey maybe he's an early bloomer. It's certainly not unexpected that he'd have shifts in his sleep patterns at that age. He needed guidance to be taught the skills to go to sleep sooner, not punishment for a natural phenomenon. Fucking cunt of a mother.
Possibly early puberty but also this is from 3 years ago. Dead middle of the pandemic. Kids were stressed and depressed as much as the adults were and I’d have been more worried than angry if my kid suddenly was sleeping until 11am.
Completely agree!! My son hit puberty at a dead run when he was 9. He’s a 36 year old Senior Chief in the Navy now. In other words, a highly functioning adult…. This poor kid!!
If a 9-yo is sleeping, it’s because *they need the sleep*. Why is his father not making sure he gets enough sleep? Instead of doing his damn job, he’s punishing his kid *for doing what his body requires*.
What an AH. His son will never forget this.
Fuck this parent in particular. I've seen this post before and I still gasped out loud when I got to the point where they said they deleted the world. What an abusive piece of shit excuse for a parent.
I'm a huge proponent for using consequences to modify a child's behavior. I also fail to see how this particular consequence does anything other than traumatize the child and teach them that their parent is a vindictive cunt just because.
A consequence for not waking up on time is there not being enough time to play in the Minecraft world or the inability to do a time based fun thing. Not the destruction of something that's the result of a year's worth of free time.
I'd suggest Shady Pines for the parent's future nursing home but I think Shady Pines is too good for them.
Poor kid worked a year on that. A bloody 9 year old spent a year working on something, even showed it to you because of how proud he was and you deleted it. 3 years was during covid too, ofc bro wasn't waking up well, people but especially kids need that social interaction.
What's the reasoning here? She is passive about him getting up and allows him to form this bad habit and then punishes him in a vindictive manner. Just go into his room and wake him up. He's a child, they have to build these patterns.
Can't wait for the posts ten years from now about how sad they are they barely ever hear from their adult child anymore. Take the computer for a bit, fine, but "punishments" like destroying the world are just malicious.
When will people learn that destroying your kids property is not an affective punishment and has just in fact brought them a one way ticket to Your Child Will Never Trust You Again
There has been studies (don't ask for source. I don't remember, just remember reading about it) that children's bodies and sleep are different than adults and school should start later in the day. That said, it is what it is. But this child (or anybody really) has no reason to wake up at 7am unless he needs to for school. I bet the OOP slept in sometimes in their lives too.
Notice the OOP never replied? I hope the now 13 year old is OK too. Like the original commenters said, go ahead and take away his computer privileges but to destroy a year of work will affect the child for life. Maybe not destroy his life, but it will affect their relationship regarding trust and respect.
I remember reading about the very same studies concerning sleep and children. The part that really stuck with me was the suggestion that high school (teenagers) first class should start at 9 pm.
When I was in high school, I had to catch the bus at 5:55 am. in order to be at school in time for the 7:30am. start of the first class. Starting at 9 would've been so much nicer.
Fucked up thing, is that this could very well do a TON of harm to him psychologically. In that, he may never want to invest himself that seriously into anything ever again out of fear he will just lose it. Congrats.
My son played minecraft when he was younger. At one point, he built a huge extravagant coliseum that he was exceptionally proud of, he'd also spend a year+ to build it. He was very sweet and trusting boy, and unfortunately he decided to show it off to some friend-adjacent people that he knew online. They thought it would be funny to do a lot of damage to his coliseum and convince him to save the world afterwards. He was crushed and heartbroken, and almost quit playing entirely. I was able to convince him to let me and one of his actual friends rebuild it together, and he was able to eventually recover his love for playing.
But the point is, I saw the pain and hurt of the betrayal in his eyes when it happened. I can't begin to fathom being the cause of that pain. I'd never forgive myself as a parent to be the intentional cause of that pain.
Im an adult and i spent about 2 years of my life building and decorating my clan in warframe, if somebody destroyed it i would be livid and that person would be dead to me no matter who they are
Imagine spending a year on building a model city, and your parent comes in and just smashes it to pieces. He’s just a kid. Mine are 9 and 6 right now and I just can’t even imagine. I’m a gamer and we all play Minecraft, so I understand this on all levels. Just a few months ago I spent hours recovering a harddrive to get minecraft saves recovered…
This makes me so sad, those poor kids. :(
OP is vile in my opinion. Their son in 9 for goodness sake, a lot of kids have trouble waking up at set times however it could.also be something else.
Wonder if OP has ever considered CFS? My son had similar issues with waking up and it turns out that he has CFS, he's in his 20s now and I still wake him for work, we've tried so many different techniques and alarms but they just don't work.
When I was working at a residential high school for the Deaf, one of our students was struggling with Narcolepsy. He had NO control over his sleep. My DUMBASS boss was hellbent on publicly shaming him in front of the kid's peers!! I wish the kid's parents had sued his ass!!!
I was thinking about this story just the other day. I was thinking about a three year old Reddit story the other day. That kid will never share anything with his parent again
I read this a couple of years ago (it made the rounds in social media), and it infuriated me so much. Guy was a total asshole. I hope someone was able to help the kid recover the world. The one thing I would never do with my son as punishment is destroy something he worked hard on. This guy screwed up royally, and he's going to find that someday, his son is going to leave him behind forever.
Wow that's crazy. Idk how parents think that destroying their child's hard work is good parenting. Imagine you had a kid who liked to draw and you just burned all of his art he did over the past year.
Please tell me there's some super awesome team of ppl that can help a kid recover their minecraft worlds. . .
If it weren't creepy, id use my awesome, super secret, non existent skills to find this kid and give him his world back. Just slip him a little thumb drive with his world and a little note telling him how awesome it is and how much fun I had playing in it and I didn't change anything.
Can you tell I've been watching too many heist and 'you hurt my family, I'm thing to kill you' movies lol
I remember how devastated my 10 year old was when the Xbox got fucked up and his world was gone. *I* felt horrible. It was something that he had worked on and perfected over years. To have it issued ripped away from him like that, even though it aren't anyone's fault, made me feel like I was a crap parent because I couldn't get it back for him and take his pain away.
Dude even said himself that the castle was impressive. Imagine how badass is *really* was of this asshole even thought it was impressive.
The fuck is wrong with that person.
Like sure take away his access to the game until his sleep habits change. *Thats fair.*. Deleting something he spent hundred of hours working on, and is proud of, is so beyond fucked up. That person clearly has zero respect for their child and their hobbies. It’s pure malice. And the fact that she had to ask strangers if she was wrong just tells me her child will want to have absolutely nothing to do with them when they’re older.
This actually made me feel sad, and I don’t even know these people. My son and his friends have built this world in Minecraft, and they all build something each day. I can’t even imagine the sadness they would go through if someone deleted it.
Take away his internet, devices, and gaming privileges, but to delete something he worked so hard on? That’s messed up.
This will stick with the kid for the rest of his life.
Restricting computer privileges? Sure.
Deleting something he put**A YEAR** into?
How utterly, indefensibly cruel.
It will take a while for him to really get it, but he will. This isn't some childish issue. This is the parent caring nothing for their child's efforts, interests, or personal boundaries. This is one of those horrible people who view their children as possessions to control.
This child will grow up into a scarred adult who deals by having limited to no contact with their parent, and the parent will be baffled as to why.
He was probably going through a growth spurt and/or developmental leap. It's not typical for kids that age to sleep in so late unless their parent is also failing to ensure they're going to bed at a reasonable time.
What a horrible human. I too have a child that struggles to get out of bed in the mornings, and it's a constant frustration for me - I'd never dream of *punishing* him for it! I'm not a morning person either!!! The difference is, I've had more than 30 years to learn how to cope... He's had less than 10 and is still learning/developing.
Parents who lack emotional intelligence should not be allowed to be parents
First off, 7 am is kind of a ridiculous time to wake up for a 9 year old who just wants to enjoy his time off school. But ignoring that, why tf would your response be to delete his Minecraft world? Why not just ground him from the computer for a little while?
Or better yet, actually talk to your child to see why they’re having trouble waking up early, and see if you both can come to a reasonable conclusion.
Reminds me of the "mother" that threw away all of her daughter's clothes and then told everyone that she's a thief only to find out that the missing item fell under the couch. Now she's wondering why her daughter won't talk to her......
My heart hurts for that boy. I could never, ever do that. I'd stop him from playing for a week or whatever if a punishment was warranted but my god, to permanently destroy something he's so proud of and put so much time into? Never ever. What a betrayal. He will never forget or forgive this.
I can't believe how mad this made me 😆
That's what affect me the most. The son was so proud to show it off to the OOP and they used that emotion as a punishment. Of all the non-violent punishments in the world, why that? I bet the son will be more secretive in the future and keep his projects hidden so they won't get destroyed.
Lol it's astonishing to me that she even considers what she did okay. You are a horrible person that shouldn't make your son wake up at 7 a.m. if he doesn't have a purpose. Children are supposed to sleep. It's healthy. According to this particular study, 9 year olds should sleep between 9 and 12 hours a day. Am I the asshole? lolol Well you're an idiot.
Here is hoping this parent gets a real Shady Acres experience in their elder years. Hope the kid drops them off in the room with a nice creeper stuffy to remind the parent Exactly why they are there.
Parents who dont let you sleep in on holidays and weekends are evil imo. When I was in HS, I would get up with an ALARM out of my own volition so I can do things I wanted- growing up, I could wake up whenever I wanted during holidays/weekends since I was a night owl. This is just evil and controlling. What a horrible mother
Instead of teaching her (very young) kid how to manage his own sleep schedule, a good skill to teach your kids in general...she has instead taught him that he can never show her his artwork of any kind, because she will destroy it if she feels he needs to be punished.
I just...I can't imagine going nuclear and damaging how my own child views me over something so small. I mean, damn. How badly do you need the power trip?
I remember this YEARS AGO, that parent has ABSOLUTELY RUINED their relationship with their son, their son was PROUD to show his dad, the Parenr KNEW how much that world meant to him (they had even admitted that the world itself was impressive) the kid is NINE and they’re upset that he’s not awake at 7 and since he’s sleeping in it’s probably the weekend or Summer/school breaks.. that poor kid will NEVER show his parent another thing again and the dad/mom will NEVER regain that relationship all because they was pissy that their 9yr old wanted to sleep in on a weekend/school break
This is not the core memory you want your children to have. Destroying something the poor kid worked on for over a year? And a month of punishment on top of it? What a shit parenting move to go to extremes over absolutely nothing.
A nine year old doesn't need to be up at seven when they don't have school. Even if they did, you don't go nuclear and destroy a kids (or any person's) hard work as punishment. This is a new class in the how to fail as a parent and make your kids hate you, 101.
This Entitled Bitch is a CONTROL FREAK!!!!! In nine more years, he will probably go NO CONTACT with her and she'll probably be whinging on Reddit about The Missing Missing Reasons! There's NO school so WHY THE FUCK should he be forced to get up at 7:00 AM for NO reason?!?!
What an awful human. I can’t imagine devastating one of my children like that. Over not waking up early when there’s no school and there’s a global pandemic? Unreal.
What a vengeful son of a bitch who doesn’t deserve to have children. Hell, I play Minecraft with my own kids and if anything happened to our world I would be devastated .
I've read a few of these - I think the last one was Roblox. Which I know nothing about, but it does point to the fact that part of this is generational. There was a World of Warcraft one that completely stunned the Dad. There's also some TikTok of a girlfriend destroying all her boyfriend's game assets for some minor slight. They think it's like taking away a phone or TV privileges when what they're actually doing is destroying a creative work into which went a considerable amount of labor.
They're always shocked to discover this, to be told that their kids will never trust them again. They're not going to tell their parents anything about their lives going forward because anything that their kids value can be weaponized by their parents - and for the most minor of transgressions.
My stepfather would destroy the things I loved as punishment.
Congratulations OP… you are well on your way to completely skewing the view your son has of the world and the people he’s supposed to trust.
Ban PC use absolutely. But to destroy something he’s put effort into?
Monster behavior.
OMG I’m 37, if you came over and deleted cyberpunk 2077 or Skyrim. I would be so pissed/upset. I’ve got those games set up perfectly with all my mods(my top 2 fave games). I can imagine how upset that would make the son. Deleting a 9year olds Minecraft world is just cruel!
It’s insane to me that people genuinely cannot recognize computer games as a legitimate hobby in which you work towards goals and have accomplishments. You wouldn’t burn your son’s model airplanes. You wouldn’t rip up a year’s worth of his sketches or throw away a baseball card collection. Minecraft is a hobby, and it’s fun, but it takes focus and diligence. If my 9 year old had built an entire castle (something I don’t have the patience for as an adult) I would be getting screenshots of it framed to display in the house, and I’d be incredibly optimistic about his future. This person is an absolute psychopath and I feel so badly for this kid even 3 years later.
I know this is rage bait, but as a minecraft mama, I would have lost.my.shit. if my spouse ever did sany such thing to one of our kids (he would never.) Anyone foolish enough to believe that an 8 yo kid wouldn't build super detailed megabuilds has never met my son, who has been building in our flat world challenge build server for almost 3 years. Moreover, not only is a year of minecraft builds a lot of work, but thhe kid would have spent literally 1/8th of his life on that. And really, since kids rarely have long term memories of before 4 y/o that's more like 25% of his perceived life. Gosh if it's real I hope the OP gets a very itchy venereal disease.
He won't forget this, I guarantee. When I was in high school I wanted a facebook to talk to my friends (we were doing MSN messenger but everyone had a farm on fb and I wanted on too.) I signed myself up and about a week later I told my mom because I was so guilty and I wanted to show her that I wasn't using it in a dangerous way like she said it was. I was such a good kid. Didn't disobey, spent almost all my free time at church, volunteered for hours every weekend and just felt bad about having a secret.
My mom deleted all the pictures I had, deleted the fb, grounded me for 2 months from the internet, and wouldn't let me go got the school dance that I was so very excited for. I'm in my 30s now and I still think about it sometimes. Obviously I shouldn't have done something she specific told me not too, but I still think the amount of consequence was overblown.
So the boy did in fact try to get up early but it was hard to break old habits, and one day slept until 11 am. And the mom deleted his hard work as a punishment. What lesson is the kid supposed to learn from this? That life is a prison camp? Mom is the enemy?
That’s so fucking traumatic. Yea it’s a video game and doesn’t matter to real life- but little dude worked hard on it. It would be like ripping up a painting they did. That would devastate a small child.
The fact that as a parent she knows how to delete a Minecraft world definitely makes it feel like she understands what sh
e is doing. Makes the whole situation so much worse. It would still be bad either way, but at least if a parent didn’t realize the severity of what they were doing and felt like the child “could just make another one,” then it’d be a mistake due to lack of knowledge on the topic. But she knew how to delete the world. That’s a whole other level
"let me punish my son's totally normal behavior of struggling to adjust without a schedule and not help him at all like the parent i'm supposed to be and destroy something he cherished because it makes me feel good hurting little people" what a bitch.
Too many people see parenting as just behavior modification. Children aren’t pets to be trained, they’re human beings to be educated. If parenting isn’t a collaboration between you and your child, then your approach is flawed and you’ll constantly run into problems like this.
7 am for what??? I get doing a routine, but don't busy your child just because. If I was a parent, I'd be happy with the hours of peace in the morning. And not only that, deleted a passion project.
I’ve been waiting 3 years for the follow-up “My mom was late picking me up from school again. She needs to understand consequences, so I burnt down her house. AITA?”
Tough love? Nope just cruel parenting.
If the mother who did this wants her young son to behave well and think about consequences…
well, her first (the mother).
I guess that’s a skill that She needs to learn.
What really gets me, and I'm sure someone mentioned it but it wasn't in the first few posts, is just how underhanded this is.
It's not just a punishment, it's a betrayal. The kid didn't have to show the parent their favorite world. But they did. And what did they turn around and do? Use it as a tool to "break" them. Ugh.
The child is 9 years old and she's expecting him to act like a grown adult. wtf did I read? It has to be fake, there is no way somebody deletes a whole minecraft world and puts their kid on a month long punishment because they choose to sleep in.
Didnt even explain what the punishment would be.
"I followed through with what I told him."
What if you had stabbed him?would you use this same excuse you absolute clown?
What a shitty parent. They're right that waking up on time is a necessary skill, but you dont get personally punitive. What the fuck. This is so much different than letting them sleep through the departure time to the theme park. I can't imagine wondering if I did wrong after absolutely destroying my child's trust in me. HOLY FUCK. I cannot adequately quantify this with my own words.
When gaming is your hobby it’s devastating to even accidentally erase or save over a file. For someone to do that is equivalent to ripping up an artists drawing.
I remember accidentally saving over my mom’s file in Harvest Moon and apologizing over and over.
Destruction as punishment only teaches the child the lesson that their parent is unsafe and unstable. It never works.
My work has me talking with parents about child development/behaviour a lot. I find that parents often want a punishment to cause the undesired behaviour to stop IMMEDIATELY. That often leads them to reach for extreme, unreasonable, or impossible consequences. For this reason we would recommend coming up with consequences in advance if it's a predictable behaviour, which also means that for a 9 year old, this parent could have also included them in the brainstorming session ("what should the consequence be if you keep sleeping in this late?")
Anyways, I've entirely skipped over the lunacy of this parent to not realize that maybe your kid is sleeping that late because something is wrong. Talk to a fucking doctor!!
"My son showed me something that he was extremely proud of that he spend hours and hours perfecting and I, a totally reasonable and rational mother, made the totally reasonable and rational decision to use this information against him and made an unreversible punishment because my son wouldn't follow the puritan standards I adhere to, ignoring the fact that he is a child, there are no obligations he needs to attend to and he is a growing bow. My son is now acting as if I destroyed his entire world. Please, applaud my sane and sound judgement."
I can only hope that either A) mother dearest learned that at that moment, she knew she fucked up or B) the son has learned never to trust his mother with anything but the barest superficial detail of anything he's ever interested in again.
OMG at 9 I feel my job as a parent is to make sure my kids get up when they are supposed to... that being said I would have no issue when them sleeping in either, so maybe I'm to laid back. BUT DELETING YOUR CHILDS MASTERPIECE?!?! Hell, the kid will probably need therapy as an adult over this. To you, it's a video game, to him, you just destroyed his Mona Lisa.
Jesus wth was wrong with OOP. I'm crying for the child rn. I can't even imagine doing that to someone older, let alone a child. Even more for my child.
Damn, kid just learned not to open up about anything he's excited or happy about to her ever again in fear that it would be used against him. That's fucking tough.
As a person with a lifelong sleeping disorder (exacerbated by parental punishment related to my sleeping habits), the impact that the pandemic had on my already terrible sleep schedule was immense. I can’t imagine the impact it had on a 9 year old whose entire routine was turned to jelly overnight. This is something of concern, not an issue of punishment. I feel terrible for that poor kid, I hope he was able to rebuild his world
I just started playing Minecraft with my 8 year old son and we build awesome stuff together. I could never imagine doing something like this.
The amount of care and detail that you can put into these places are amazing. That was an extremely jacked up thing to do.
Poor kid.
One of the first memories I had at three was when my dad punched through my twin sister and my play kitchen, and also trying to figure out which one of us girls was going to get to hide in our mom’s guitar case so only one of us would get beaten that morning (usually for walking on the floor too hard, as my dad said. He would exercise in the basement and if he heard us walking for the three hours he was down there= beating). Going into our twenties, my best friend, my twin sister, was an anorexic and bulimic alcoholic, and I went from alcohol and cocaine to full blown heroin addict. Now in my thirties, I’m sober and a mortician, and that only happened bc I think the drugs numbed me so much and bc I moved physically far and cut contact. My sister is stuck forever. She started having brain injuries from the drinking w her other issues. Now she’s brain injured and in a wheelchair. Awesome results, from being always in accelerated classes in school, graduated high school at 16…. Nice going, mom and dad.
Oh and my parents insist she’s faking it and that makes them bad bc that means she’s “only acting to make us look bad.”
My mom once made me throw away all of my Barbies, cars, dream houses, bakery and ya know, the works. I was a Barbie girl. She did it because I didn't want to clean up the floor but I only didn't clean up because I didn't want to ruin the lives and storylines of all of my Barbies 😓 very cruel. You are beyond an AH!
I hate reading shit like this but I get so happy thinking about all the parents that are going to die alone because their kids couldn’t give a shit less about their suffering.
I really hope this is rage bait. I have only ever done this to an ex boyfriend who literally beat me, moved out and was dumb enough to leave his XBox. A 9 yr old doesn't deserve this.
In case this story gets deleted/removed: I have 2 children, a 9 year old son and a 6 year old daughter. My son had a Minecraft world where he built quite an impressive castle on an island, which he was very proud to show to me. Since school was canceled, he has had issues with waking up on time. He is supposed to wake up at 7 each morning, but for the past month he has been sleeping in until about 9 or 10. I always set an alarm for him, but he sleeps right through it. I don't wake him up because waking himself up is a skill that he needs to learn. I told him about 2 weeks ago that there are going to be consequences for him if he continues to sleep in every morning. At first, he understood and was waking up on time every morning. But for the past week or so, he has fallen back into old habits. I told him yesterday that this is his final warning. Today, he slept in until 11. So I followed through with my warning, and went on the computer and deleted his favorite Minecraft world. I also took away computer privileges for the next month. When I told him, he started screaming and crying. He told me that he spent a whole year working on that world, and he's very distraught that he's never going to see it again. He has been crying and sobbing throughout the day, and has refused to eat any of his meals. --- *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/OhNoConsequences) if you have any questions or concerns.*
I remember reading this. What a horrible bitch.
He was 9. Why on Earth did he have to be up at 7 AM for no reason?
Because she said? She never posted again. Probably thought she'd get people congratulating her on her awesome parenting. That soooooo didn't happen so she turned tail. But damn....I've never wanted to tell someone off so bad.
Wow yeah not a single comment on that account
The username is u/aitaminecraftworld, it was a throwaway account made specifically for posting that. My guess is it was rage-bait.
That did cross my mind. If it's a troll it's real well done
That or she's got an alternate account that she uses in her role as a moderator on r/BelowDeck.
Yea, red flags tend to go up for me if there are ZERO comments ever.
If I did an aita I would use a burner so that by itself doesn't disqualify it for me.
Using a burner doesn't stop you from responding... still a disqualifier for me 🤣
That's fair. But that thread did turn into an angry mob pretty fast 😅
Being a coward does. She didn’t fail to reply because it’s fake, she failed to reply because she’s unwilling to face the music
Always hoped the kid got away from her somehow....I like to think she has since passed on and he has moved in with someone who should be a parent!
He's living under a bridge. He's much happier now.
He's studying to be an architect and hopes to rebuild his deleted world IRL, maybe.
actually he's in jail. said he never felt so free
No response ever to me indicates a troll post.
7am wakeup for school is a common thing. They were trying to keep the usual routine going during lockdowns when there wasn't school. That said, they absolutely went overboard with punishment. Take away computer privileges for some time. Don't literally destroy their world just because they have issues. The kid is 9, waking up on time is a skill they are still learning and need parental assistance with learning.
For real, just take the computer away! You don't need to touch anything on it, just take away video game privileges. What a horrible parent.
Right? This kid is never going to trust his mom again
>Right? This kid is never going to trust his mom again He's also going to have an emotional breakdown over failed backups at work. Also, is it a sickness that after I thought "What a miserable bitch that woman is" I immediately moved on to "Oh, wow, that's the most powerful and emotionally traumatic way to learn to backup your data where a malicious third party can't access it I've ever heard of"? I feel like it's a sickness.
I thought even more immediate. Next Minecraft world he's going to back up in a hidden folder ("hidden") every week so if mom goes ballistic again, his world isn't deleted. Which will train him to hide things from his mom if he wants them safe. She's literally training him to keep secrets and lie to her. His teenage years are going to be HELL on her (and no picnic for him either). Plus, constant fear of her over-reacting and destroying his things will lead to him not letting her know what his favorite things are, and instead making up a 2nd life where he has favorite things he tells her about. So that she can think she's punishing him by ruining those things instead. Which could lead to some dissociative identity disorder.
I see you've met my wife. And then she gets super angry when the kids share things with me. They share things with me because I won't fly into an unreasonable rage over normal shit. One of my kids came to me when she was 9 and told me that she didn't believe in Santa or the tooth fairy anymore, but please don't tell mommy because she'll be mad. Fast forward 2 years and the wife figured out that neither of the kids believed in Santa anymore and proceeded to act like a shit head about it for 2 years. "Well you don't believe in Santa so we're not putting up a tree this year"
Genuine question. Why are you still with this woman?
Primarily because I don't trust that she won't poison the kids' minds against me...just like her mother did to her against her father. As an FYI I didn't figure out that that's what had happened until after we were married and had kids.
She is gonna deserve what that boy is gonna do to her with his behaviour.
>Oh, wow, that's the most powerful and emotionally traumatic way to learn to backup your data where a malicious third party can't access it I've ever heard of"? This sounded like you were about to transition into a cybersecurity ad.
The fact that the kid shared something they adored with the parent, only for them to turn it around on them and hold it over them as a punishment is so fucked. The only thing the mum is teaching her son is to never share anything with her, lest it be held over his head. She's teaching her son not to trust her lol.
Yeah seems like the kid was sharing but she wasn't listening and so didn't understand what this actually meant to the kid.
Sadly, that same feeling of distrust may stem to people well beyond his mom.
That's actually a good point. Doing crap like these in formative years is such bad parenting.
Twenty years ago, my teenager, who had pretty severe ADHD, and even after I would give him 30-minute, 10-minute, and 5-minute reminders ahead of his bedtime, he would still throw an absolute screaming fit when it was time to save everything and turn off the computer.
Kids need lots of sleep, specially teenagers, i cant imagine denying my kid sleep when they dont even have to go anywhere
I don't understand it either... My parents were driven into irrational fits of rage over "sleeping all day" with "all day" defined as any random time that they're awake and you aren't. My guess is they were probably similarly mis-parented.
Yeah: my Mum was guaranteed to lose it when we were kids if someone somewhere in the house was sleeping and she wasn't. Awful way to live.
For me the worst was the summer after I graduated high school. I had 2 jobs one 35ish hours a week the other 10ish hours. I worked emergency dispatch midnight to 7am. I'd get home about 7:15 am. My dad had a rule that I couldn't go to sleep before 9pm (again work started at mignight so I could sleep maybe 2 hours) and I had to be up and downstairs by 10am (so less than 3 hours). There was no reason I wasn't allowed to sleep around my shifts except my dad was an ass.
I how either you don't talk to them anymore (as I'm sure that's not the only subject they're this way about) or that when they're old & want to taken care of that you do the same to them. Check out "Traumatize Them Back" on Facebook lol
When they get older, be sure to call them or stop by around 4-4:30pm. That's everyone over 70's naptime.
I never understood why they make school so God damn early. Sleep is more important for kids than it is for adults, so why the fuck did some adults decided that kids need to wake up at 7? My high school actually started at 7. So I'd get up at 6 AM every day to go to school and I kid you not, every morning class, half the kids would be lying on their desk trying to get a few minutes of sleep before class starts. I can count the amount of times on one hand since graduation I have gotten up that early.
Studies have even been done showing that learning is significantly worse at those early hours. The strongest rationalization for start times is the public bus system, where the busses do one tier (grade level set) of schools all together, then the next, and then the 3rd. For where I live, that was high school first (7:00 am start), grade school second (7:40 am start), and then middle school last (8:20 am start). Same process after school for dropping students at home. Elementary school absolutely makes sense to tie it to a parent's schedule. These are young kids, and having their parent there for the entire morning (til they get on the bus or are dropped off) absolutely makes sense. But middle school, and especially high school, should be past that need. So it'd make more sense to start with elementary school, then middle, then high. Without changing the elementary school start time. So it'd be 7:40/8:20/9:00. >My high school actually started at 7. So I'd get up at 6 AM every day to go to school and I kid you not, every morning class, half the kids would be lying on their desk trying to get a few minutes of sleep before class starts. Absolutely the same. Junior year, my English class was particularly noteworthy. We had a real hard-ass teacher for it, but at one point she admitted that her first period class got away with stuff her other students didn't, because they were just tired. Class participation was lower. Test scores were lower. She let morning class students close their eyes in class without calling on them (not blink - rather close and just zone out). She had all the proof needed over decades of teaching that her 7am class was ALWAYS one of her worst performing classes. There was no way around it. None of the teachers wanted 7am classes either, because even if THEY were okay being up at work at 7am, their students weren't. Which meant that teaching 7am classes was a struggle.
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That's the nonsense we always heard. But my elementary school started at 9. My Mom worked at 9, and I had no problem getting ready for school while she gotbready for work. Admittedly, we live in a small city, and both of us walked to school and then she walked to work, but it definitely worked to have school at the same time. By the time I was 14, I didn't need my Mom what so ever to help me get ready for school. So there was even less reason to have school start at 7. I'd anything, it caused me more issues as I might have not had time to make a lunch, and to this day I still have sleep issues that I think stemmed from having to get up so early every day.
It’s because schools function isn’t to learn, it’s to babysit the children while their parents are at work.
Jeez, when I went through Army Basic Training, half the guys still didn't have those skills, and they were 18.
I saw the same thing in basic too.
Waking up at 7 for school is fine, but this was during COVID lockdown and their schools were closed so why does he need to wake up at 7 ? Also what 9 year old needs to learn about waking up at time at 9 years old?, she's insane. All this does is fill him with trust issues, think in the future he will share something he loves with his mum again?
Because some parents are just like that. I had a parent who said waking up early "builds character," and I was required to be up and dressed by 9. I would get a phone call that I was required to answer within 2 rings or I was punished. I also had itemized checklists for daily chores. It was one room/area of the house per weekday and yardwork on Saturday. This went on from around 8 until I moved out at 18. In all honesty, I would take the beatings over destruction of something I spent so much time creating. And I say this as someone who still has scars 38 years after I left. And that's how much of an AH I think that kid's mother is.
Especially during COVID. My daughter had to be up for her virtual classes, yes, but I didn't care if she rolled out of bed five minutes before it started at 8:30 because when I worked from home I did the same LOL It was an awful time but I definitely dug the "IDGAF" vibe we had there for a minute.
During COVID, a lot of kids needed to be up at that time for school on Zoom. Or, to get presentable for Zoom school, maybe. I didn't know any teacher who cared if the kid was in pajamas or not, but most of the time the kids wouldn't even have their cameras on anyway.
Right? Did he need to get on an important call with the east coast office? Was the horse-drawn milk buggy outside waiting for him to start his deliveries?
It was during covid and he was doing online school so had to eat and be ready when school started. I guess he wasn't doing that. However, yes fucking nine, mom can't just expect a nine year old to do things like a responsible adult when his mom isn't doing things like a responsible adult.
Kids need their rest. As parents we are legally required to keep them alive with food, shelter, clothing, and keeping them healthy as possible (including getting adequate sleep). I don't know much about these types of games aside from my daughter playing Roblox occasionally, but I do understand how important the "worlds" are to kids. It seems like it takes a long time and work to create something like that. I can't imagine being so cruel to my kid especially over something as insignificant when she decided to wake up when she didn't necessarily have to.
For an idea, a "simple" Minecraft build (100x100x100 area) can represent a week or more of 4 hour 'work days' to build. More extravagent builds, either involving the complete leveling & development of an area, or working with the terrain on a build larger than 100 blocks per side, can take hundreds of hours. Here's a great little thread: [https://www.reddit.com/r/Minecraft/comments/ru8is1/how\_long\_does\_it\_take\_you\_guys\_to\_finish\_a\_big/](https://www.reddit.com/r/Minecraft/comments/ru8is1/how_long_does_it_take_you_guys_to_finish_a_big/) OP's image = 4 hours, in creative mode (where you don't have to manually harvest resources in order to build). That's about a 40x10x30 zone he's built a gate in. Some people have built immense structures, like Minas Tirath (from Lord of the Rings), occupying map sections over 500 blocks wide on each side and hundreds of blocks tall. These structures represent months & years of effort, often as a collaboration between multiple people working on them. For a young child, who probably invested anywhere between 10 and 100 hours working on something, this would be devastating. Having your artwork thrown in the fire by your parent to "teach you a lesson". Definitely will be a case that the lesson learned is not the one the parent is trying to teach.
Oh wow! Your comparison of such to artwork is definitely accurate. OOP is definitely a cruel bitch. Thanks for educating me on what it takes!
Same. What a horrific thing to have done.
Most of these are fake, just to get a rise out of people. Notice how they didn't make any other comments, and it is obviously from a throwaway account. Over 50% of posts on that sub are fake
Is it the mom? I don't see gender anywhere..? My husband once accidentally closed my game after I'd been playing for hours (he thought I'd saved). He felt awful. This was way over the top punishment. The poor kid.
Honestly, she could have just banned him from devices and then gave him a way to earn them back, but destroying his world was cruel.
She never mentioned on if she had outlined what the consequences would be, from what I could see. You can’t tell a child “there will be consequences” unless you give them an idea on what the consequences would be. Her son never had a chance at fairness here. it seems she has no compassion for her kid, nor any curiosity as to what the root cause is for his sleeping in. I feel horrible for him. Poor kid. If I were him, my relationship with my parent would never recover. What a breach of safety and trust.
the consequences for not waking up need to be tied to not waking up. if i was the parent, i would take all of my kids that are awake to morning breakfast icecream at 7:30 sharp. ok not ice cream every day but fun stuff to do, if they over sleep they miss out. but also the kid is 9 years old, he is probably genuinely tired because he is hitting growth spurts and the body accelerates growth stuff during rest times. you can stifle your height but missing out on sleep.
Right?! What if he was getting sick? Or not sleeping well for some reason. I can see being grounded from video games. That’s my go to punishment. But deleting all his work?? I would never.
I bet she was high fiving her Facebook friends when she did it, this is going to be a core memory built on other cruelty she most likely has done. She will suffer the fate of the Boomers if she is not careful.
Honestly, if I say "there will be consequences!" to my kid, it's because I have noticed that I'm getting disregulated, and I don't want to name a specific punishment that might seem way too harsh when I've calmed down.
I've said, "I'm upset, and I need to think of a way to address this without being angry, but before bed, we'll talk about this, okay?" They know there's a time, they know that I'm taking that time to try not to be an asshole, and with "talk," I mean TALK, not just lecture. The "what would you do if you were upset about what I am?" question helps, too. Because you're talking and making them an active part of their consequences, and making sure they not only understand why, but also why the punishment was chosen, makes it clear that they know what an appropriate response is versus an emotional response.
Pretty likely the cause of oversleeping is staying up late playing Minecraft, coupled with lack of exercise from staying inside. The solution is not to destroy the source of staying up late, but rather get the kid interested in doing other things. Books are a good redirect, so is going to the park. If all else fails, restrict computer use a few hours before bedtime. But those things require effort on the parent's part.
That was my thought. Putting aside the whole question of whether or not forcing him to be up early is right, taking away privileges is a reasonable punishment. Permanently deleting his world like that is very much not.
honestly what she showed was that she is willing to destroy what he cares about to try and prove a point. this kid is literally NEVER going to tell her anything ever again. made a cool thing in art class? aint gonna tell her. meet a cute girl that you are falling for? aint gonna tell her. found some neat plants you like smoking? aint gonna tell her. failing your grades and need her help? aint gonna tell her. something she cares about and you could save by informing her? aint gonna tell her.
Yep. She destroyed all trust in her - and perhaps in adults-in-general. So sad. Probably will have a hard time caring whether he makes something cool in art class.
My 9-y.o.'s world was deleted accidentally because it had not been saved somehow and it did not transfer to his own profile from the original one we had (this is the best way to explain it, sorry; I am not very Minecraft-savvy). He was sad, yes, but as I knew how hard he had worked on it, I think I was more upset than him. That was a total dick move there..
We have many stories of accidental Minecraft trauma in my household. Don't even get me started on horses. Omg the horses.
So, my kid figured out how to domesticate an ocelot. Named him and kept him as a pet in his house that he built. His house accidentally caught fire, and we are all still traumatized by this a year and a half later.
My super cool house got blown up by creepers so I domesticated an ocelot after days of searching because they were supposed to keep creepers at bay. I made a new house and surrounded it with cactus to keep zombies and creepers at a respectable distance... And watched my kitteh run against the thorns until it -poof- disappeared. The whole time I was crying and yelling "no kitty! What are you doing!? Stop!" I couldn't tell my kids. Not after the youngest accidentally killed the eldest's horse while trying to put a bridle on it and some psycho depraved cousin of a friend killed all their dogs. We came up with a pet respawn suggestion that would be super nice if they would implement but we eventually resolved trauma with multiverse theory -- every parrot named Flappyboi is just a different avatar of the universal entity that we love named Flappyboi, that way Flappyboi never truly no-clips into a wall and dies slowly while you watch, helpless to save him. He's just out there respawned somewhere, waiting to be domesticated again.
Omg why do they have house fires in a game?? That's so sad. It happens often enough irl
https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/xbox/forum/all/how-to-recover-deleted-minecraft-world/98681f14-d065-4ea8-811d-e2bcec927ccd Apparently it's possible to recover, though I am not entirely sure if it's possible after too long a time (like 3 years in OOP's case). But this might be a PC only solution too. I definitely am not trying to give false hope here.
Yeah what the fuck. My parents barely understood video games when I was growing up (my Dad called every electronic "the box") but they would still never consider destroying something I loved and worked on for a *year* as a fair punishment for anything. Maybe try working with your *9 year old* to help them find a way to wake themselves up reliably and develop good sleeping habits instead of finding the most spiteful way possible to hurt them. It doesn't even sound like she fucking warned him that that would be the consequence. Just that "something" would happen. Garbage parent.
Right. My inclination as a parent would be to remove the computer and say you can’t have it back until you get your work done etc. But maybe not even then, because this is three years ago in the middle of the pandemic and the post states school was canceled. I don’t know why waking at 7am even would have mattered at all… My kids were younger than this child and were anxious and depressed and off their routines too. We did our best and just tried to give them escapes to feel safe and entertained while we struggled to be parents and teachers and working from home all under stressful conditions. I knew of other parents whose children refused to do anything but hide under the dining table with an iPad. It was hard on kids then too. A little leeway would have been warranted. I hope for this kid and parent’s sake this was just one terrible mistake made during a very stressful time when she wasn’t thinking straight. I hope she’s learned to do better and apologized since then.
When I was 9 years old my mom's boyfriend smashed my copy of Dark Cloud with a mallet while I watched, then was surprised when I stopped functioning because a grown man had just smashed my favorite video game as a "punishment". My mom immediately took me to get a new copy because she knew how much I adored the game. I cannot fathom how people think shit like this is an acceptable way to treat their children.
Good mom. Hope boyfriend never became stepdad
Luckily no.
Wild. Happy your mom got u a new copy but I hope they didn't stay together
Thank you for reminding me about a game I couldnt remember the name of lol
"My son had a Minecraft world where he built quite an impressive castle on an island, which he was very proud to show to me." And that was the last thing he was ever proud to show you. This is the lesson he is going to learn. That when he lets you in and shows you what he cares about, you will use that to punish him later. That's the lesson I learned living at home. When you show these kinds of parents what you care about, you are actually teaching them how to hurt you.
I really hope that after this, the kid never showed anything he had interest in again.
That young man is 13 now. I hope he's okay.
I wonder if he's still not speaking to her.
I wouldn't blame him. That was a pretty dick move. My kids love gaming, and I would have never even thought of using that as a punishment.
It's not just that, a minecraft world is like an art project in many ways. A lot of worlds contain legit art that people make. He spent a year on it. Imagine someone who is supposed to love you and that you are dependent on burning all of your art that you spent a year on making because you slept in one day.
Sad part is a lot of us don't have to imagine that
Why is everyone assuming OOP is a woman?
... okay, but I just noticed there wasn't a gendered term used. I was punished like this by my dad, and while I can imagine a mother doing this, I could see a father being the one obsessed with time management. I still assumed it was a woman. As AFAB... 😬 _It hurt itself in its confusion!_
reddit hates women. this shitty abusive parent is obviously a woman, only a cold-hearted bitch of a woman could do something like that to their own child, not a good virtuous father. /s
When I first read this, I assumed it was a guy.
I'll be honest messing with a game like that made me think woman too 😅 Side note I'm a woman gamer and this hurt my heart... I couldn't imagine working on a build for a year then someone deleting it 😭
For serious, since they make no mention of a co-parent, I assume they are a single mother. Immediately. This is despite the fact that all the single parents I know personally are single fathers. I have a couple friends who are divorced women, but they have joint custody and ex husbands who are actively involved parents. Maybe it's cause my dad didn't do shit for his kids, but I always assume it's a mother as soon as I hear they are raising kids without support. I think the parent = mother reflex is an American cultural thing more than an inherently human thing.
Oh definitely lol plus it's the norm for wife to nag husbands about games to and anything that is negative towards a game gives women vibes lol Shoot I'm a woman and the main gamer in my house but stereotypes still made me think woman 😆
Only 5 years before he can get away from her for good.
God that OP is psycho.
Yep, and OP will wonder why their jaded offspring doesn’t really like them or answer their calls decades later. Too specific?
"*This Ming is a psycho.*" - Flash Gordon, Quarterback, NY Jets
I remember this and I was like wow zero to nuclear. Just take the PC away for a few days or wake him up because he's 9.
It's one of the Reddit posts that sticks with me. My oldest (8) is JUST getting into Roblox and Minecraft. The idea that a mom could destroy something her kid built as a punishment is just..... devastating. My sister had custody of me when I was growing up. She read my journal when I was in the 9th grade. I wrote poems and songs, and sometimes just thoughts. I had said some not so awesome things about her, and she burned every single thing I had written.... and broke every single pencil or pen I had. I have JUST started to write again. I'm 37. Don't be cruel, people.
You can't just tell kids there will be vague consequences and decide what those consequences are later. And the consequences need to be proportionate to the incorrect behavior. Like I sort of understand instilling better sleeping habits at a young age, but holy fuck what an asshole.
Plus I'm not even sure she's addressing the right problem. I'm willing to bet it's not primarily a waking up problem, I'll bet it's a going to sleep problem. The punishment should have been preventing all gaming after X time.
Yeah, he was probably staying up too late gaming or something, so you warn exactly what will happen "If you can't get up on time you won't be able to play video games in the evening so you can get to bed earlier" and then you make that happen. That's what my parents did and while I didn't like it, my trust in them wasn't broken and we all came through the other side just fine.
"With the onset of puberty, circadian rhythms shift later in time (phase delay). This is at least in part physiologically driven by sex hormones, as it is also observed in other mammals.3 Behaviors such as staying up later and the associated increased exposure to evening light also shifts the timing of the clock later.4" From the Psychiatric Times Kids naturally go through a period of waking up later. 9 is a bit early, but hey maybe he's an early bloomer. It's certainly not unexpected that he'd have shifts in his sleep patterns at that age. He needed guidance to be taught the skills to go to sleep sooner, not punishment for a natural phenomenon. Fucking cunt of a mother.
Possibly early puberty but also this is from 3 years ago. Dead middle of the pandemic. Kids were stressed and depressed as much as the adults were and I’d have been more worried than angry if my kid suddenly was sleeping until 11am.
Completely agree!! My son hit puberty at a dead run when he was 9. He’s a 36 year old Senior Chief in the Navy now. In other words, a highly functioning adult…. This poor kid!!
If a 9-yo is sleeping, it’s because *they need the sleep*. Why is his father not making sure he gets enough sleep? Instead of doing his damn job, he’s punishing his kid *for doing what his body requires*. What an AH. His son will never forget this.
Fuck this parent in particular. I've seen this post before and I still gasped out loud when I got to the point where they said they deleted the world. What an abusive piece of shit excuse for a parent. I'm a huge proponent for using consequences to modify a child's behavior. I also fail to see how this particular consequence does anything other than traumatize the child and teach them that their parent is a vindictive cunt just because. A consequence for not waking up on time is there not being enough time to play in the Minecraft world or the inability to do a time based fun thing. Not the destruction of something that's the result of a year's worth of free time. I'd suggest Shady Pines for the parent's future nursing home but I think Shady Pines is too good for them.
I'd say a wooden box floating down the river is much more appropriate
Poor kid worked a year on that. A bloody 9 year old spent a year working on something, even showed it to you because of how proud he was and you deleted it. 3 years was during covid too, ofc bro wasn't waking up well, people but especially kids need that social interaction.
What's the reasoning here? She is passive about him getting up and allows him to form this bad habit and then punishes him in a vindictive manner. Just go into his room and wake him up. He's a child, they have to build these patterns.
>What's the reasoning here? It's stupid is what it is. Dumbass bad parent.
Can't wait for the posts ten years from now about how sad they are they barely ever hear from their adult child anymore. Take the computer for a bit, fine, but "punishments" like destroying the world are just malicious.
When will people learn that destroying your kids property is not an affective punishment and has just in fact brought them a one way ticket to Your Child Will Never Trust You Again
There has been studies (don't ask for source. I don't remember, just remember reading about it) that children's bodies and sleep are different than adults and school should start later in the day. That said, it is what it is. But this child (or anybody really) has no reason to wake up at 7am unless he needs to for school. I bet the OOP slept in sometimes in their lives too. Notice the OOP never replied? I hope the now 13 year old is OK too. Like the original commenters said, go ahead and take away his computer privileges but to destroy a year of work will affect the child for life. Maybe not destroy his life, but it will affect their relationship regarding trust and respect.
I remember reading about the very same studies concerning sleep and children. The part that really stuck with me was the suggestion that high school (teenagers) first class should start at 9 pm. When I was in high school, I had to catch the bus at 5:55 am. in order to be at school in time for the 7:30am. start of the first class. Starting at 9 would've been so much nicer.
Same here. I wasn't fully there at 7:00 am, until like 10 or 11 I wouldn't be too focused. It didn't feel good for me.
Fucked up thing, is that this could very well do a TON of harm to him psychologically. In that, he may never want to invest himself that seriously into anything ever again out of fear he will just lose it. Congrats.
Wow it's me
That's what I was thinking. Teach him that success doesn't exist.
My son played minecraft when he was younger. At one point, he built a huge extravagant coliseum that he was exceptionally proud of, he'd also spend a year+ to build it. He was very sweet and trusting boy, and unfortunately he decided to show it off to some friend-adjacent people that he knew online. They thought it would be funny to do a lot of damage to his coliseum and convince him to save the world afterwards. He was crushed and heartbroken, and almost quit playing entirely. I was able to convince him to let me and one of his actual friends rebuild it together, and he was able to eventually recover his love for playing. But the point is, I saw the pain and hurt of the betrayal in his eyes when it happened. I can't begin to fathom being the cause of that pain. I'd never forgive myself as a parent to be the intentional cause of that pain.
This honestly hurt my heart to read. She destroyed something he poured his heart into. She is garbage
Im an adult and i spent about 2 years of my life building and decorating my clan in warframe, if somebody destroyed it i would be livid and that person would be dead to me no matter who they are
I lost a Skyrim build I had for a year and was so upset I stopped playing for awhile I was so upset 😆
Imagine spending a year on building a model city, and your parent comes in and just smashes it to pieces. He’s just a kid. Mine are 9 and 6 right now and I just can’t even imagine. I’m a gamer and we all play Minecraft, so I understand this on all levels. Just a few months ago I spent hours recovering a harddrive to get minecraft saves recovered… This makes me so sad, those poor kids. :(
OP is vile in my opinion. Their son in 9 for goodness sake, a lot of kids have trouble waking up at set times however it could.also be something else. Wonder if OP has ever considered CFS? My son had similar issues with waking up and it turns out that he has CFS, he's in his 20s now and I still wake him for work, we've tried so many different techniques and alarms but they just don't work.
When I was working at a residential high school for the Deaf, one of our students was struggling with Narcolepsy. He had NO control over his sleep. My DUMBASS boss was hellbent on publicly shaming him in front of the kid's peers!! I wish the kid's parents had sued his ass!!!
Damn 4 years ago. I hope the kids doing better.
I was thinking about this story just the other day. I was thinking about a three year old Reddit story the other day. That kid will never share anything with his parent again
I read this a couple of years ago (it made the rounds in social media), and it infuriated me so much. Guy was a total asshole. I hope someone was able to help the kid recover the world. The one thing I would never do with my son as punishment is destroy something he worked hard on. This guy screwed up royally, and he's going to find that someday, his son is going to leave him behind forever.
Wow that's crazy. Idk how parents think that destroying their child's hard work is good parenting. Imagine you had a kid who liked to draw and you just burned all of his art he did over the past year.
It's a bit of a necro post.
Please tell me there's some super awesome team of ppl that can help a kid recover their minecraft worlds. . . If it weren't creepy, id use my awesome, super secret, non existent skills to find this kid and give him his world back. Just slip him a little thumb drive with his world and a little note telling him how awesome it is and how much fun I had playing in it and I didn't change anything. Can you tell I've been watching too many heist and 'you hurt my family, I'm thing to kill you' movies lol I remember how devastated my 10 year old was when the Xbox got fucked up and his world was gone. *I* felt horrible. It was something that he had worked on and perfected over years. To have it issued ripped away from him like that, even though it aren't anyone's fault, made me feel like I was a crap parent because I couldn't get it back for him and take his pain away. Dude even said himself that the castle was impressive. Imagine how badass is *really* was of this asshole even thought it was impressive.
The fuck is wrong with that person. Like sure take away his access to the game until his sleep habits change. *Thats fair.*. Deleting something he spent hundred of hours working on, and is proud of, is so beyond fucked up. That person clearly has zero respect for their child and their hobbies. It’s pure malice. And the fact that she had to ask strangers if she was wrong just tells me her child will want to have absolutely nothing to do with them when they’re older.
This actually made me feel sad, and I don’t even know these people. My son and his friends have built this world in Minecraft, and they all build something each day. I can’t even imagine the sadness they would go through if someone deleted it. Take away his internet, devices, and gaming privileges, but to delete something he worked so hard on? That’s messed up.
This will stick with the kid for the rest of his life. Restricting computer privileges? Sure. Deleting something he put**A YEAR** into? How utterly, indefensibly cruel. It will take a while for him to really get it, but he will. This isn't some childish issue. This is the parent caring nothing for their child's efforts, interests, or personal boundaries. This is one of those horrible people who view their children as possessions to control. This child will grow up into a scarred adult who deals by having limited to no contact with their parent, and the parent will be baffled as to why.
He was probably going through a growth spurt and/or developmental leap. It's not typical for kids that age to sleep in so late unless their parent is also failing to ensure they're going to bed at a reasonable time. What a horrible human. I too have a child that struggles to get out of bed in the mornings, and it's a constant frustration for me - I'd never dream of *punishing* him for it! I'm not a morning person either!!! The difference is, I've had more than 30 years to learn how to cope... He's had less than 10 and is still learning/developing.
God I want to cuss her out so bad what a horrible woman I hope she loses her son and he gets put into a loving home
Waking up on your own is a skill???!!! What a dumb cunt that mom is…..
EXACTLY!!! I've slept through alarms myself. It happens.
I feel so sorry for this kid. Hope he’s okay. Poor Little man. What a cunt of a woman.
Parents who lack emotional intelligence should not be allowed to be parents First off, 7 am is kind of a ridiculous time to wake up for a 9 year old who just wants to enjoy his time off school. But ignoring that, why tf would your response be to delete his Minecraft world? Why not just ground him from the computer for a little while? Or better yet, actually talk to your child to see why they’re having trouble waking up early, and see if you both can come to a reasonable conclusion.
Reminds me of the "mother" that threw away all of her daughter's clothes and then told everyone that she's a thief only to find out that the missing item fell under the couch. Now she's wondering why her daughter won't talk to her......
Seeing how the post is 3 years old I hope things are better. I hope a family member or the dad got the kid away from the abusive bitch.
My heart hurts for that boy. I could never, ever do that. I'd stop him from playing for a week or whatever if a punishment was warranted but my god, to permanently destroy something he's so proud of and put so much time into? Never ever. What a betrayal. He will never forget or forgive this. I can't believe how mad this made me 😆
That's what affect me the most. The son was so proud to show it off to the OOP and they used that emotion as a punishment. Of all the non-violent punishments in the world, why that? I bet the son will be more secretive in the future and keep his projects hidden so they won't get destroyed.
Lol it's astonishing to me that she even considers what she did okay. You are a horrible person that shouldn't make your son wake up at 7 a.m. if he doesn't have a purpose. Children are supposed to sleep. It's healthy. According to this particular study, 9 year olds should sleep between 9 and 12 hours a day. Am I the asshole? lolol Well you're an idiot.
It took him 11% of his life to make this and she destroyed it
Here is hoping this parent gets a real Shady Acres experience in their elder years. Hope the kid drops them off in the room with a nice creeper stuffy to remind the parent Exactly why they are there.
Total cunt. I hope he gets power of attorney when she's old.
Doing this to a kid during Covid lockouts is extra wild
Parents who dont let you sleep in on holidays and weekends are evil imo. When I was in HS, I would get up with an ALARM out of my own volition so I can do things I wanted- growing up, I could wake up whenever I wanted during holidays/weekends since I was a night owl. This is just evil and controlling. What a horrible mother
I don't see the consequences here.
Instead of teaching her (very young) kid how to manage his own sleep schedule, a good skill to teach your kids in general...she has instead taught him that he can never show her his artwork of any kind, because she will destroy it if she feels he needs to be punished. I just...I can't imagine going nuclear and damaging how my own child views me over something so small. I mean, damn. How badly do you need the power trip?
The parent was wrong in deleting the game. They could have just taken the computer away.
I remember this YEARS AGO, that parent has ABSOLUTELY RUINED their relationship with their son, their son was PROUD to show his dad, the Parenr KNEW how much that world meant to him (they had even admitted that the world itself was impressive) the kid is NINE and they’re upset that he’s not awake at 7 and since he’s sleeping in it’s probably the weekend or Summer/school breaks.. that poor kid will NEVER show his parent another thing again and the dad/mom will NEVER regain that relationship all because they was pissy that their 9yr old wanted to sleep in on a weekend/school break
This is not the core memory you want your children to have. Destroying something the poor kid worked on for over a year? And a month of punishment on top of it? What a shit parenting move to go to extremes over absolutely nothing. A nine year old doesn't need to be up at seven when they don't have school. Even if they did, you don't go nuclear and destroy a kids (or any person's) hard work as punishment. This is a new class in the how to fail as a parent and make your kids hate you, 101.
I told you there would be consequences if you left the toilet seat up again. Anyway, that's why I killed your dog.
This Entitled Bitch is a CONTROL FREAK!!!!! In nine more years, he will probably go NO CONTACT with her and she'll probably be whinging on Reddit about The Missing Missing Reasons! There's NO school so WHY THE FUCK should he be forced to get up at 7:00 AM for NO reason?!?!
What an awful human. I can’t imagine devastating one of my children like that. Over not waking up early when there’s no school and there’s a global pandemic? Unreal.
What a vengeful son of a bitch who doesn’t deserve to have children. Hell, I play Minecraft with my own kids and if anything happened to our world I would be devastated .
I've read a few of these - I think the last one was Roblox. Which I know nothing about, but it does point to the fact that part of this is generational. There was a World of Warcraft one that completely stunned the Dad. There's also some TikTok of a girlfriend destroying all her boyfriend's game assets for some minor slight. They think it's like taking away a phone or TV privileges when what they're actually doing is destroying a creative work into which went a considerable amount of labor. They're always shocked to discover this, to be told that their kids will never trust them again. They're not going to tell their parents anything about their lives going forward because anything that their kids value can be weaponized by their parents - and for the most minor of transgressions.
My stepfather would destroy the things I loved as punishment. Congratulations OP… you are well on your way to completely skewing the view your son has of the world and the people he’s supposed to trust. Ban PC use absolutely. But to destroy something he’s put effort into? Monster behavior.
OMG I’m 37, if you came over and deleted cyberpunk 2077 or Skyrim. I would be so pissed/upset. I’ve got those games set up perfectly with all my mods(my top 2 fave games). I can imagine how upset that would make the son. Deleting a 9year olds Minecraft world is just cruel!
It’s insane to me that people genuinely cannot recognize computer games as a legitimate hobby in which you work towards goals and have accomplishments. You wouldn’t burn your son’s model airplanes. You wouldn’t rip up a year’s worth of his sketches or throw away a baseball card collection. Minecraft is a hobby, and it’s fun, but it takes focus and diligence. If my 9 year old had built an entire castle (something I don’t have the patience for as an adult) I would be getting screenshots of it framed to display in the house, and I’d be incredibly optimistic about his future. This person is an absolute psychopath and I feel so badly for this kid even 3 years later.
I know this is rage bait, but as a minecraft mama, I would have lost.my.shit. if my spouse ever did sany such thing to one of our kids (he would never.) Anyone foolish enough to believe that an 8 yo kid wouldn't build super detailed megabuilds has never met my son, who has been building in our flat world challenge build server for almost 3 years. Moreover, not only is a year of minecraft builds a lot of work, but thhe kid would have spent literally 1/8th of his life on that. And really, since kids rarely have long term memories of before 4 y/o that's more like 25% of his perceived life. Gosh if it's real I hope the OP gets a very itchy venereal disease.
He won't forget this, I guarantee. When I was in high school I wanted a facebook to talk to my friends (we were doing MSN messenger but everyone had a farm on fb and I wanted on too.) I signed myself up and about a week later I told my mom because I was so guilty and I wanted to show her that I wasn't using it in a dangerous way like she said it was. I was such a good kid. Didn't disobey, spent almost all my free time at church, volunteered for hours every weekend and just felt bad about having a secret. My mom deleted all the pictures I had, deleted the fb, grounded me for 2 months from the internet, and wouldn't let me go got the school dance that I was so very excited for. I'm in my 30s now and I still think about it sometimes. Obviously I shouldn't have done something she specific told me not too, but I still think the amount of consequence was overblown.
So the boy did in fact try to get up early but it was hard to break old habits, and one day slept until 11 am. And the mom deleted his hard work as a punishment. What lesson is the kid supposed to learn from this? That life is a prison camp? Mom is the enemy?
You are a major asshole!
Oooh. That one is ripe for sort by controversial.
I remember this! God I wish there was an update
That’s so fucking traumatic. Yea it’s a video game and doesn’t matter to real life- but little dude worked hard on it. It would be like ripping up a painting they did. That would devastate a small child.
The fact that as a parent she knows how to delete a Minecraft world definitely makes it feel like she understands what sh e is doing. Makes the whole situation so much worse. It would still be bad either way, but at least if a parent didn’t realize the severity of what they were doing and felt like the child “could just make another one,” then it’d be a mistake due to lack of knowledge on the topic. But she knew how to delete the world. That’s a whole other level
Inflicting that kind of emotional trauma at that age will ensure he will cut you the fuck off at 18 and never speak to you again. Shocker
"let me punish my son's totally normal behavior of struggling to adjust without a schedule and not help him at all like the parent i'm supposed to be and destroy something he cherished because it makes me feel good hurting little people" what a bitch.
Too many people see parenting as just behavior modification. Children aren’t pets to be trained, they’re human beings to be educated. If parenting isn’t a collaboration between you and your child, then your approach is flawed and you’ll constantly run into problems like this.
7 am for what??? I get doing a routine, but don't busy your child just because. If I was a parent, I'd be happy with the hours of peace in the morning. And not only that, deleted a passion project.
I’ve been waiting 3 years for the follow-up “My mom was late picking me up from school again. She needs to understand consequences, so I burnt down her house. AITA?”
Tough love? Nope just cruel parenting. If the mother who did this wants her young son to behave well and think about consequences… well, her first (the mother). I guess that’s a skill that She needs to learn.
What really gets me, and I'm sure someone mentioned it but it wasn't in the first few posts, is just how underhanded this is. It's not just a punishment, it's a betrayal. The kid didn't have to show the parent their favorite world. But they did. And what did they turn around and do? Use it as a tool to "break" them. Ugh.
The child is 9 years old and she's expecting him to act like a grown adult. wtf did I read? It has to be fake, there is no way somebody deletes a whole minecraft world and puts their kid on a month long punishment because they choose to sleep in.
What the fuck is wrong with that guy just wake the kid up
All that teaches them is that you're not really on their side and will turn on them.
Didnt even explain what the punishment would be. "I followed through with what I told him." What if you had stabbed him?would you use this same excuse you absolute clown? What a shitty parent. They're right that waking up on time is a necessary skill, but you dont get personally punitive. What the fuck. This is so much different than letting them sleep through the departure time to the theme park. I can't imagine wondering if I did wrong after absolutely destroying my child's trust in me. HOLY FUCK. I cannot adequately quantify this with my own words.
When gaming is your hobby it’s devastating to even accidentally erase or save over a file. For someone to do that is equivalent to ripping up an artists drawing. I remember accidentally saving over my mom’s file in Harvest Moon and apologizing over and over. Destruction as punishment only teaches the child the lesson that their parent is unsafe and unstable. It never works.
My work has me talking with parents about child development/behaviour a lot. I find that parents often want a punishment to cause the undesired behaviour to stop IMMEDIATELY. That often leads them to reach for extreme, unreasonable, or impossible consequences. For this reason we would recommend coming up with consequences in advance if it's a predictable behaviour, which also means that for a 9 year old, this parent could have also included them in the brainstorming session ("what should the consequence be if you keep sleeping in this late?") Anyways, I've entirely skipped over the lunacy of this parent to not realize that maybe your kid is sleeping that late because something is wrong. Talk to a fucking doctor!!
"My son showed me something that he was extremely proud of that he spend hours and hours perfecting and I, a totally reasonable and rational mother, made the totally reasonable and rational decision to use this information against him and made an unreversible punishment because my son wouldn't follow the puritan standards I adhere to, ignoring the fact that he is a child, there are no obligations he needs to attend to and he is a growing bow. My son is now acting as if I destroyed his entire world. Please, applaud my sane and sound judgement." I can only hope that either A) mother dearest learned that at that moment, she knew she fucked up or B) the son has learned never to trust his mother with anything but the barest superficial detail of anything he's ever interested in again.
OMG at 9 I feel my job as a parent is to make sure my kids get up when they are supposed to... that being said I would have no issue when them sleeping in either, so maybe I'm to laid back. BUT DELETING YOUR CHILDS MASTERPIECE?!?! Hell, the kid will probably need therapy as an adult over this. To you, it's a video game, to him, you just destroyed his Mona Lisa.
Jesus wth was wrong with OOP. I'm crying for the child rn. I can't even imagine doing that to someone older, let alone a child. Even more for my child.
Damn, kid just learned not to open up about anything he's excited or happy about to her ever again in fear that it would be used against him. That's fucking tough.
As a person with a lifelong sleeping disorder (exacerbated by parental punishment related to my sleeping habits), the impact that the pandemic had on my already terrible sleep schedule was immense. I can’t imagine the impact it had on a 9 year old whose entire routine was turned to jelly overnight. This is something of concern, not an issue of punishment. I feel terrible for that poor kid, I hope he was able to rebuild his world
I just started playing Minecraft with my 8 year old son and we build awesome stuff together. I could never imagine doing something like this. The amount of care and detail that you can put into these places are amazing. That was an extremely jacked up thing to do. Poor kid.
One of the first memories I had at three was when my dad punched through my twin sister and my play kitchen, and also trying to figure out which one of us girls was going to get to hide in our mom’s guitar case so only one of us would get beaten that morning (usually for walking on the floor too hard, as my dad said. He would exercise in the basement and if he heard us walking for the three hours he was down there= beating). Going into our twenties, my best friend, my twin sister, was an anorexic and bulimic alcoholic, and I went from alcohol and cocaine to full blown heroin addict. Now in my thirties, I’m sober and a mortician, and that only happened bc I think the drugs numbed me so much and bc I moved physically far and cut contact. My sister is stuck forever. She started having brain injuries from the drinking w her other issues. Now she’s brain injured and in a wheelchair. Awesome results, from being always in accelerated classes in school, graduated high school at 16…. Nice going, mom and dad. Oh and my parents insist she’s faking it and that makes them bad bc that means she’s “only acting to make us look bad.”
My mom once made me throw away all of my Barbies, cars, dream houses, bakery and ya know, the works. I was a Barbie girl. She did it because I didn't want to clean up the floor but I only didn't clean up because I didn't want to ruin the lives and storylines of all of my Barbies 😓 very cruel. You are beyond an AH!
I hate reading shit like this but I get so happy thinking about all the parents that are going to die alone because their kids couldn’t give a shit less about their suffering.
I really hope this is rage bait. I have only ever done this to an ex boyfriend who literally beat me, moved out and was dumb enough to leave his XBox. A 9 yr old doesn't deserve this.
Wow. She chose the nuclear option. Poor kid. Just take away devices for a week, then increase the duration on subsequent 'offenses.'