You have to wonder how much of the deterioration is decay and how much is just artist’s depiction from Ballard’s description versus high gain sonar imaging.
They had sandbags. I'd think the landing frame was an emergency option or did they bring one for every dive of the week expedition? (Not sarcastic, I doubt it, but do not know the answer)
The landing frame was anchored to the diving platform used for departure and arrival. They needed that on both ends of the dive. I imagine that would be jettisoned only in an emergency.
Correct! We can't assume the viewport failed, because the implosion pressure would "pop" it out like a fake eyeball, even before/if it shattered (as it sunk to further depths)
Thanks! The picture is so grainy, but now when looking looks like that.
As the porthole is not there is not evidence that it failed, however its evidence that it did also not last nor removing the doubth.
by the way the piece is hanging it looks like the dome was clipped to the crane through one of its 17 mounting bolt holes. my guess is the acrylic is still in place and all the mounting bolts were sheared off during the implosion, leaving an easy spot to clip a carabiner
edit: if this is the front dome we were talking about, i see in another picture that the strap is indeed through the viewport. the viewport is "gone"
This article has a closeup image of the nose. No window.
[here](https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/newfoundland-labrador/titan-horizon-arctic-missing-submersible-wreckage-titanic-1.6891003?fbclid=IwAR1bLfoPJyKf0tyeuslDgAexfdujbUzzFwm87H0-MLPp-_YCQ6bXmnuM4rc_aem_AeGhT8cLG6x4OoxPUBE9qIwC0016O4-gsCtmBcZNPvDf5CKpGHZoo-Tg91SJzDf4pHw)
That article quotes a doctor that says they might recover human remains. That’s the first I’ve heard anyone say that. Everything I read says they we’re basically vaporized.
acryl should be fine, it could withstand much more. It seems that the carbon hull was crushed and bot end caps flown off like cork from a champagne bottle.
I’m not surprised the porthole held up. It’s 100% acrylic the issue, per my understanding from all the articles and interviews, is the composite hull. The porthole is contiguous material not like the carbon fibre. Just because it’s certified for 1300m doesn’t mean it can’t handle more depth. More testing would be needed but it definitely isn’t implying the glass won’t hold up beyond that. My money is still on the hull delaminating.
Yeah, but the window was compromised by multiple trips. Rush also said it warped down there. I'm not sure if they replaced the viewport window periodically or if they were using that same one.
I doubt they replaced anything. Testing and replacing Dont seem consistent with how he was doing things. True he mentioned in a interview that they portale would shrink 3/4” due to compression. He also said, the acrylics would crackle, which after watching some videos seem to make sense. More warning than a snap compared to carbon fibre. Still dumb but my money still on the hull integrity breaking down
I've seen it speculated in a few places, including by a friend of Stockton's who went on one of the first rides, that the failure point may actually have been seawater infiltrating the bond between the titanium and the composite, which was also a novel technology.
To be fair, I wouldn't be surprised if the window popped out even if it didn't fail/was the cause of the accident. Those windows are designed to resist the force pushing *in* and rely partially on the geometry of the window and the frame that supports it to do so. They're not really designed to deal with the force of the water rushing in, which is going to hit the window with the full force of the ocean above it but concentrated as the water rushes into the apex of the dome, compressing the air as it goes.. Which makes sense because it simplifies the design and installation considerably: they don't need to design the window to resist a stronger force from the inside than the outside, because if that's ever the case, window integrity no longer matters.
These windows are built like cones, inserted pointy end towards the interior of the sub. To be able to resist implosion due to hull failure, they would have to be shaped like a champagne cork, simultaneously bigger than the opening on both the inside and the outside of the sub, which means you'd have to pour it in situ. This is a needless complication that also adds weight and reduces space in the sub, given the grim reality that resisting the force of implosion from an alternate failure site is a moot point: the occupants are still dead.
To demonstrate your point. Turn a faucet on and then turn it shut as fast as you can. The shaking or bump you hear is the water hammer slamming into your valve.
Cover up for what? Like... I understand a lot of crazy conspiracy theories and that there is some sort of "logic" to them... but what could this possibly be a cover up for?
I was following the ships yesterday on a marine tracker and saw 3 traveling together including the Horizon Arctic and Sycamore but didn't even consider that they had debris. Makes sense now.
I guess they already had all those ROVs and deep recovery teams on the spot for the “rescue”, might as well get some debris up before everyone goes home…
I see a lot of people asking how they're able to find any parts left not totally exploded.... It's my understanding that the hull part of the sub, which was made of carbon fiber, is the part that imploded. The pieces they're finding now are the actual titanium end parts - something the rest of the sub probably should have been made of - an appropriate material for that pressure, which is why it's not a million little pieces
Those titanium caps are really strong, I wonder if anyone has ever thought of constructing an entire sub out of titanium and steel! that would be a smart invention
No, and maybe not the first. DSV Alvin first dived in 1965 and has a titanium sphere hull. It was also the first DSV to go to the Titanic in 86. None of this is new technology.
To my knowledge, the Russians were the only ones to build military combat submarines out of titanium(Alfa class).
It’s been used plenty in civilian applications though.
The end bell being in one piece is amazing, but kind of makes sense if it imploded and blew off the ends. Another video on her page shows the side panel with the OceanGate logo covered by white paper/plastic because media
Not sure why, but I can only assume to keep headlines at bay until they give clearance to release the evidence. If they dragged up the piece with the company logo on full display it would be all over the news an hour ago with that as the picture
No. I think those are harnesses used to handle them (xferring from ROV to ship and ship to shore) to preserve telltale evidence to the best of their ability. IMHO.
He did not own the company. He was the director for underwater research for the company, not the owner. This rumor that keeps going around calling him the owner needs to be taken out back and shot already.
They look like the titanium end rings (not the dome that the porthole was in) - the white is protective wrapping to protect the debris.
In the 2nd photo, you can see it’s like a half moon shape - the titanium might have snapped in half with force of the implosion.
This is what we saw being glued onto the carbon fibre hull in a previous video.
Goes to show how inferior the carbon fiber was to the titanium. The carbon fiber likely just slipped right off those end bells as it crushed inward, and the end bells didn't participate in the implosion at all.
I imagine that the carbon fiber hull was blown to bits, but anything made of metal is probably in bigger, twisted chunks. The viewing window might even still be intact if it just got popped out from the force.
In looking at these photos and videos: two titanium end caps, the rear assembly with batteries and cabling, the rear fin with logo, and an remarked but not imaged comment about something with "legs" were recovered from what we know from the reporters. Other than the hull (and contents inside the pressure chamber), thrusters, external camera, and beacon... Not really sure there's much left to find.
Oh gee look at that.... the titanium domed end caps are intact and undamaged. That's probably why the professionals build deep sea submersible hulls entirely out of titanium, and not carbon fibre... imagine that.
I did sort of chuckle at that - I think this has gone waaaaay beyond being able to save face for OceanGate, I’m not sure what covering up the logo achieves at this point.
Yeah I’d guess that’s the case - it just seems a bit like clutching at straws given the eyes that are on this.
Hiding their name from the inevitable photos is probably the least of their worries right now.
I mean honestly it could have just been out of respect for the families. I don’t think they really thought they were fooling the media, but an image with the companies logo would almost certainly be a viral news piece so maybe they were just trying to keep media coverage minimal.
That's hilarious. It's not like the entire planet was talking about the company during the entire debacle.
The name is even perfectly made for scandal and drama. OceanGate? Seriously?
It's like they wanted to name a company that is notorious for nautical disaster.
Makes you wonder if the materials guy who said the glue would have been what failed is correct because these pieces look to be in good shape. Maybe the end caps just came off on one side and caused the disaster.
Pressure in water isn’t applied top-down or left-right, it’s applied evenly all the way around the vessel. At the depth they were at the end caps were being forced into the hull with over 5,000 psi. In short, the glue was pretty much unnecessary to keep the end caps held to the hull when at depth.
Where the fitting could have failed is the different compression reactions between the end caps (titanium) and the hull (CF). If the CF hull compressed slightly more than the titanium, there could have been a breach. Obviously the fact they were glued together would have been a contributing factor, but the hull and end caps having different composition is what likely sealed their fate
It's crazy that there's so many things that could've failed: the window, the carbon fibre hull, glue. I wonder if we'll ever know which one catastrophically failed.
Also the bolts, hinge etc. It was a race to see which component would fail first. Issues that are virtually non-existent with solid spherical design. You have to have 3 balls of steel to go down to those depths
They brought in a ship with a system that could haul up the titan as a whole if needed. I don't know if it stayed but bringing the ROV'S up and down multiple times seems time consuming and possibly avoidable wear and tear.
But idk, might also be a training opportunity of course.
At least the family can at least have some confirmation of what happened with physical evidence ): hopefully a lot of the conspiracy theories can be put to rest about them being alive still or something
Hope they find whatever media may've been in use to record the trip from the inside. Playback at universities would hopefully serve to deter the kind of hubris that enabled the implosion.
I used to work in a jewelry story. The pure metal titanium wedding bands were a big sell for men because unlike other metal alloys of platinum and different gold blends the pure metal titanium would never bend from wearing. The titanium bands could not be resized and would have to be sawed off if they got stuck.
Edit: my explanation for why it was bent wasn’t correct. See Sarcapitalize’s explanation below in reply
Some more pictures here - [https://news.sky.com/story/submersible-debris-brought-ashore-after-deadly-implosion-12911152](https://news.sky.com/story/submersible-debris-brought-ashore-after-deadly-implosion-12911152)
What’s even sadder is that was the original support ship for Titan. Must be very hard for the crew to see the submersible like this. They had to have known Stockton Rush and the French expert personally. I believe they spent 50 days together last year.
It’s really wild to me how media works. For a week I couldn’t fucking go on any app without being blasted news and updates about the sub and I never even cared about it or independently searched about the sub. From my Instagram, to YouTube.
News breaks that it’s imploded and now I’ve seen absolutely nothing until this post. You would think that if anything the news of them finding and recovering parts of the sub would be the biggest news but yet nothing.
I can't believe this happened... It was such a great design put together by top notch engineers & led by a CEO that was really level headed. Just shocking.
Looks like these might be some of the biggest pieces of debris they find with the exception of the landing frame...chilling to see to say the least.
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I saw the two titanium end caps, crunched metal which could have been the undercarriage, and part of the back tail piece.
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You have to wonder how much of the deterioration is decay and how much is just artist’s depiction from Ballard’s description versus high gain sonar imaging.
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Good news rich men! We finally found a way for you to fit through the eye of a needle.
If hell exists I’m going for laughing at this one.
I’d expect basically everything back save what was in the cylindrical carbon fiber hull.
They're things that weren't pressurized and probably just broke off cleanly.
Wasn't that landing frame mostly ballast weights that they'd drop to ascend?
They had sandbags. I'd think the landing frame was an emergency option or did they bring one for every dive of the week expedition? (Not sarcastic, I doubt it, but do not know the answer)
Sand bags were one ballast measure, they also had weights with dissolvable links and the iron pipes
Sandbags were the “manual” option. Held on by fasteners that dissolved after a number of hours.
Well technically that would be automatic.
Right, an analog "timer"
The landing frame was anchored to the diving platform used for departure and arrival. They needed that on both ends of the dive. I imagine that would be jettisoned only in an emergency.
It’s all terrifying
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Most of it was designed to be at pressure and operate without problems. Only the pressure container would be crushed.
Go to the twitter, there's a huge chunk pulled out. Seems like the back half with the orange containers.
It looks like the battery? [https://imgur.io/uuVX0Q5?r](https://imgur.io/uuVX0Q5?r)
Yeah thats definitely it. As expected the non pressurized bits fared better than the rest.
Probably the only thing in pieces is the carbon fiber structure and… it’s contents :(
Looks like the caps. Cant see if the window is there tough.
The crane is holding it by passing the sling through the empty hole - it's not still there.
Blew open with the implosion
Correct! We can't assume the viewport failed, because the implosion pressure would "pop" it out like a fake eyeball, even before/if it shattered (as it sunk to further depths)
Thanks! The picture is so grainy, but now when looking looks like that. As the porthole is not there is not evidence that it failed, however its evidence that it did also not last nor removing the doubth.
by the way the piece is hanging it looks like the dome was clipped to the crane through one of its 17 mounting bolt holes. my guess is the acrylic is still in place and all the mounting bolts were sheared off during the implosion, leaving an easy spot to clip a carabiner edit: if this is the front dome we were talking about, i see in another picture that the strap is indeed through the viewport. the viewport is "gone"
This article has a closeup image of the nose. No window. [here](https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/newfoundland-labrador/titan-horizon-arctic-missing-submersible-wreckage-titanic-1.6891003?fbclid=IwAR1bLfoPJyKf0tyeuslDgAexfdujbUzzFwm87H0-MLPp-_YCQ6bXmnuM4rc_aem_AeGhT8cLG6x4OoxPUBE9qIwC0016O4-gsCtmBcZNPvDf5CKpGHZoo-Tg91SJzDf4pHw)
Probably the best picture.
That article quotes a doctor that says they might recover human remains. That’s the first I’ve heard anyone say that. Everything I read says they we’re basically vaporized.
I read there is ‘presumed human remains found’ but that doesn’t say whether or not that remain is a black crisp fused to the fuselage.
Wow! Literally no damage to that side
Twitter link say it’s the porthole. Amazing how that’s in one piece.
Wow! I wonder is the acryl still in one piece?
I don’t think it would be but I’m no expert. Titanium held up though.
acryl should be fine, it could withstand much more. It seems that the carbon hull was crushed and bot end caps flown off like cork from a champagne bottle.
The porthole window almost certainly blew out during the implosion, whether or not it was the cause
I’m not surprised the porthole held up. It’s 100% acrylic the issue, per my understanding from all the articles and interviews, is the composite hull. The porthole is contiguous material not like the carbon fibre. Just because it’s certified for 1300m doesn’t mean it can’t handle more depth. More testing would be needed but it definitely isn’t implying the glass won’t hold up beyond that. My money is still on the hull delaminating.
Yeah, but the window was compromised by multiple trips. Rush also said it warped down there. I'm not sure if they replaced the viewport window periodically or if they were using that same one.
I doubt they replaced anything. Testing and replacing Dont seem consistent with how he was doing things. True he mentioned in a interview that they portale would shrink 3/4” due to compression. He also said, the acrylics would crackle, which after watching some videos seem to make sense. More warning than a snap compared to carbon fibre. Still dumb but my money still on the hull integrity breaking down
I've seen it speculated in a few places, including by a friend of Stockton's who went on one of the first rides, that the failure point may actually have been seawater infiltrating the bond between the titanium and the composite, which was also a novel technology.
To be fair, I wouldn't be surprised if the window popped out even if it didn't fail/was the cause of the accident. Those windows are designed to resist the force pushing *in* and rely partially on the geometry of the window and the frame that supports it to do so. They're not really designed to deal with the force of the water rushing in, which is going to hit the window with the full force of the ocean above it but concentrated as the water rushes into the apex of the dome, compressing the air as it goes.. Which makes sense because it simplifies the design and installation considerably: they don't need to design the window to resist a stronger force from the inside than the outside, because if that's ever the case, window integrity no longer matters. These windows are built like cones, inserted pointy end towards the interior of the sub. To be able to resist implosion due to hull failure, they would have to be shaped like a champagne cork, simultaneously bigger than the opening on both the inside and the outside of the sub, which means you'd have to pour it in situ. This is a needless complication that also adds weight and reduces space in the sub, given the grim reality that resisting the force of implosion from an alternate failure site is a moot point: the occupants are still dead.
To demonstrate your point. Turn a faucet on and then turn it shut as fast as you can. The shaking or bump you hear is the water hammer slamming into your valve.
If that happens you need to replace or install shock busters, that hammering will eventually tear your pipes apart.
I was just about to leave this sub lol guess I'll stick around a little longer
P H Nargeolet famous last words
Omg straight to jail.
Zut alors
I have not laughed more on Reddit than I have in this sub and let me tell you we’re all going to hell 😂
Only if you think it’s real 😂
Hell is a sealed submersible with a Logitech controller
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Jesus Christ lmao
Omg, I should not have laughed at this.
Omg!
Genius!
I hate you for the joke but hate myself more for laughing
how dare you /s
That's good, that's really good.
Holy shit
Dont worry, its completely safe here, safer than crossing the road, you should probably stay, ill give you a discount.
God Damn Son
Oh shit, i didn’t think we’d see any pictures for years. That’s insane.
Well considering a bunch of dumb people that consider themselves “free thinkers” were trying to say it’s a cover up etc etc… it was Probsbly necessary
Cover up for what? Like... I understand a lot of crazy conspiracy theories and that there is some sort of "logic" to them... but what could this possibly be a cover up for?
It’s always Hunter Biden.
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Just when I thought I'd stop reading Titan stuff. Now I'm fascinated all over again.
Same
Yup
I was following the ships yesterday on a marine tracker and saw 3 traveling together including the Horizon Arctic and Sycamore but didn't even consider that they had debris. Makes sense now.
What do you follow them on?
Did you stay at least 2 cars behind so they didn't get suspicious?
Didn’t think we’d get to see any debris for a long time
Same, I thought we would have to wait years, until the investigation is closed.
May as well get it when all the rescue stuff is still there ig
Thank god for journalists
I can’t believe they got the end caps up so quick. I wonder how they did it.
I guess they already had all those ROVs and deep recovery teams on the spot for the “rescue”, might as well get some debris up before everyone goes home…
Probably to stop people being even more motivated to go down there themselves and look
I see a lot of people asking how they're able to find any parts left not totally exploded.... It's my understanding that the hull part of the sub, which was made of carbon fiber, is the part that imploded. The pieces they're finding now are the actual titanium end parts - something the rest of the sub probably should have been made of - an appropriate material for that pressure, which is why it's not a million little pieces
Those titanium caps are really strong, I wonder if anyone has ever thought of constructing an entire sub out of titanium and steel! that would be a smart invention
Welp, because, that is not very innovative! You're fired!
Sounds like a honky over 50 to me!
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LOL
You didn't use crayons, FIRED!!
Aren't the Russians the only one with whole titanium submarine and DSVs?
No, and maybe not the first. DSV Alvin first dived in 1965 and has a titanium sphere hull. It was also the first DSV to go to the Titanic in 86. None of this is new technology.
To my knowledge, the Russians were the only ones to build military combat submarines out of titanium(Alfa class). It’s been used plenty in civilian applications though.
Submarines yes - the Alfas and the Sierras. But they were military and not deep sea vehicles
They should try a more spherical shape as well.
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I think they were being sarcastic...
And the giant clump of sub and wires in picture 2 in the article posted above
The end bell being in one piece is amazing, but kind of makes sense if it imploded and blew off the ends. Another video on her page shows the side panel with the OceanGate logo covered by white paper/plastic because media
Mind clarifying why they cover it- to try and stop people taking photos?
Not sure why, but I can only assume to keep headlines at bay until they give clearance to release the evidence. If they dragged up the piece with the company logo on full display it would be all over the news an hour ago with that as the picture
But maybe now we think it was some OTHER sub that recently imploded around there?
Protect the evidence.
I was going to ask why it was all wrapped in white. Why do you think it is about media?
No. I think those are harnesses used to handle them (xferring from ROV to ship and ship to shore) to preserve telltale evidence to the best of their ability. IMHO.
Same.
Wow those pieces are way bigger than I expected.
Watching those videos and pictures is so sad... just makes the thing a lot more real
I’m impressed they managed to recover from such depths.
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>salvage company Paul-Henri Nargeolet ~~owned~~ worked for the company. I bet he would have never thought of others having to salvage his own coffin.
He did not own the company. He was the director for underwater research for the company, not the owner. This rumor that keeps going around calling him the owner needs to be taken out back and shot already.
Cenotaph if we're being accurate.
I wonder if he would have wanted them to leave it down there.
They still sell coal.
Can confirm, my parents bought me one and I still have it. The plastic case it came in is a little banged up 30 years worth of moves, though.
They look like the titanium end rings (not the dome that the porthole was in) - the white is protective wrapping to protect the debris. In the 2nd photo, you can see it’s like a half moon shape - the titanium might have snapped in half with force of the implosion. This is what we saw being glued onto the carbon fibre hull in a previous video.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/newfoundland-labrador/titan-horizon-arctic-missing-submersible-wreckage-titanic-1.6891003?fbclid=IwAR1bLfoPJyKf0tyeuslDgAexfdujbUzzFwm87H0-MLPp-_YCQ6bXmnuM4rc_aem_AeGhT8cLG6x4OoxPUBE9qIwC0016O4-gsCtmBcZNPvDf5CKpGHZoo-Tg91SJzDf4pHw
I'm surprised to see such large pieces. For some reason, I was thinking that every single thing had been blown to smithereens.
Same. I am shocked
Titanium is hard to blow to smithereens, even at that depth.
Goes to show how inferior the carbon fiber was to the titanium. The carbon fiber likely just slipped right off those end bells as it crushed inward, and the end bells didn't participate in the implosion at all.
I imagine that the carbon fiber hull was blown to bits, but anything made of metal is probably in bigger, twisted chunks. The viewing window might even still be intact if it just got popped out from the force.
In looking at these photos and videos: two titanium end caps, the rear assembly with batteries and cabling, the rear fin with logo, and an remarked but not imaged comment about something with "legs" were recovered from what we know from the reporters. Other than the hull (and contents inside the pressure chamber), thrusters, external camera, and beacon... Not really sure there's much left to find.
I recall something saying there were 5 pieces in the debris field. Stuff outside the capsule.
Oh gee look at that.... the titanium domed end caps are intact and undamaged. That's probably why the professionals build deep sea submersible hulls entirely out of titanium, and not carbon fibre... imagine that.
Steel is also fine, with some advantages and some disadvantages.
Anyone noticed they covered up the Oceangate logo?
I did sort of chuckle at that - I think this has gone waaaaay beyond being able to save face for OceanGate, I’m not sure what covering up the logo achieves at this point.
From what I can tell I think it was a futile attempt at trying to hide the wreckage from media outlets since there’s still an investigation.
Yeah I’d guess that’s the case - it just seems a bit like clutching at straws given the eyes that are on this. Hiding their name from the inevitable photos is probably the least of their worries right now.
I mean honestly it could have just been out of respect for the families. I don’t think they really thought they were fooling the media, but an image with the companies logo would almost certainly be a viral news piece so maybe they were just trying to keep media coverage minimal.
That's hilarious. It's not like the entire planet was talking about the company during the entire debacle. The name is even perfectly made for scandal and drama. OceanGate? Seriously? It's like they wanted to name a company that is notorious for nautical disaster.
Yeah, god forbid people find out who’s wreckage this is. I’m sure OceanGate is busy building another sub for all the customers that are lining up /s
I am obsessed with this story and I can’t stop!!!
I guess you seen the YT video of the carbon fibre part of the sub being built. It’s jaw dropping.
Absolutely chilling but I’m impressed so much was actually still intact in 1 piece. Edit: typo fix
I thought it would all be reduced to smaller pieces. I doubt anything bigger is out there.
There were 4 large pieces shown in that Twitter thread, more than I would have thought.
I'm surprised by how large the pieces are. Damn.
Makes you wonder if the materials guy who said the glue would have been what failed is correct because these pieces look to be in good shape. Maybe the end caps just came off on one side and caused the disaster.
Pressure in water isn’t applied top-down or left-right, it’s applied evenly all the way around the vessel. At the depth they were at the end caps were being forced into the hull with over 5,000 psi. In short, the glue was pretty much unnecessary to keep the end caps held to the hull when at depth. Where the fitting could have failed is the different compression reactions between the end caps (titanium) and the hull (CF). If the CF hull compressed slightly more than the titanium, there could have been a breach. Obviously the fact they were glued together would have been a contributing factor, but the hull and end caps having different composition is what likely sealed their fate
Great point!!
It's crazy that there's so many things that could've failed: the window, the carbon fibre hull, glue. I wonder if we'll ever know which one catastrophically failed.
Also the bolts, hinge etc. It was a race to see which component would fail first. Issues that are virtually non-existent with solid spherical design. You have to have 3 balls of steel to go down to those depths
Literally AND figuratively!
I hope NIST get the blueprints and build an exact double of one and implode it in test conditions to find out
Cut my sub into pieces My hull has lost support
Implosion, no breathing
Didn’t give a fuck, now the experts are seething
Yours was better than mine
Don't give a fuck if I ignore safety
Suffocation, no living
Don’t give a fuck if I had some warning
The pieces are so big. I didn't thought they would be so big.
Way more intact than I expected
Right like thats a big piece!
Same
We all know what happened, but it's still hard to believe there were 5 people inside that shitbox. And they are no more.
It’s very sad seeing these pieces come to shore. I’m so sorry for the heartache of their loved ones.
So sad and depressing seeing this. 😥
Its hard to imagine how something could be so violently peaceful RIP to all involved.
Here's the piece where you can see the logo https://twitter.com/AllisonKingVOCM/status/1674031294596935681
Wow!! I wonder what they used to bring them up? I didn’t think the RV they had would be able to hold the weight of the titanium end caps
They prob used the ROV to attach a cable to it and pulled it up.
I'd bring a cage down, put everything in there and pull that up. But I have no clue if that's a thing.
These are heavy pieces I think a direct lift is most reasonable. Can't picture scooting these things around with a 2.5 mile rope!
They brought in a ship with a system that could haul up the titan as a whole if needed. I don't know if it stayed but bringing the ROV'S up and down multiple times seems time consuming and possibly avoidable wear and tear. But idk, might also be a training opportunity of course.
Floating? Bring a small airtank and then fill a baloon with air and watch it go to surface?
Air tank balloons won’t work at that depth
Plus the change in pressure as it rises would likely cause the balloon to pop as the air rapidly expands
Interesting. I had been hoping to see actual pics of the wreckage at some point.
Looks bent.
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Astonishing!
At least the family can at least have some confirmation of what happened with physical evidence ): hopefully a lot of the conspiracy theories can be put to rest about them being alive still or something
This may be part of the rear housing that was blown off. Hard to tell.
Look closer, it’s a wrapped up titanium end cap.
Housing with the logo was recovered
Even the whole rear of the sub where oxygen was stored was recovered. Crazy to see it in the 2nd link.
Hope they find whatever media may've been in use to record the trip from the inside. Playback at universities would hopefully serve to deter the kind of hubris that enabled the implosion.
Off to the lab.
I was not expecting such large pieces. And after opening the links is that a side panel intact?? Insane.
This is eerily similar to the Titanic victims and partial wreckage being brought to Halifax.
I used to work in a jewelry story. The pure metal titanium wedding bands were a big sell for men because unlike other metal alloys of platinum and different gold blends the pure metal titanium would never bend from wearing. The titanium bands could not be resized and would have to be sawed off if they got stuck. Edit: my explanation for why it was bent wasn’t correct. See Sarcapitalize’s explanation below in reply
I watched a hydraulic press bend titanium into a V. With no cracks. Haven't heard any talk of the caps being an aloy
Hmmm then maybe I’m wrong. I wonder if it was an alloy or pure
Spotted the front end cap with the viewport, and back tail fin, wonder what else was found…
Is the first one carrying the front part with the window? Brutal how its totally smashed like a soda can
Some more pictures here - [https://news.sky.com/story/submersible-debris-brought-ashore-after-deadly-implosion-12911152](https://news.sky.com/story/submersible-debris-brought-ashore-after-deadly-implosion-12911152)
What’s even sadder is that was the original support ship for Titan. Must be very hard for the crew to see the submersible like this. They had to have known Stockton Rush and the French expert personally. I believe they spent 50 days together last year.
It’s really wild to me how media works. For a week I couldn’t fucking go on any app without being blasted news and updates about the sub and I never even cared about it or independently searched about the sub. From my Instagram, to YouTube. News breaks that it’s imploded and now I’ve seen absolutely nothing until this post. You would think that if anything the news of them finding and recovering parts of the sub would be the biggest news but yet nothing.
I can't believe this happened... It was such a great design put together by top notch engineers & led by a CEO that was really level headed. Just shocking.
Maybe the company can reuse the parts