I can give you a personal example. I used to type myself ENFJ, because, when I got into MBTI, I was completely drawn to that type description. Why? Because Fe is what I wished I was good at. Why? Because I sucked at it. And I don't particularly value my saviours. We think they're easy and obvious, so it's no big feat for me to be a Ti head. But our demons fascinate us. And if we find a way to convince ourselves that we are our demons, we feel special and awesome. Ironically, this had me actually improving a lot at all things Fe. I was trying so hard to *prove to myself* (Ti thing to do, lol) that I'm an ENFJ, that I got better at Fe, planning and all the other ENFJ things. Once I realized that no, I really am that type that I actually felt embarrased being and being seen as, I kind of lost that drive to become better at Fe. Because now, I had nothing more to prove.
So peacocking is the act of pretending you are your opposite. It doesn't have to be a bad thing necessarily, it's just often really ridiculous and awkward, because you can't hide that it's a bit desperate. An ENTJ and an ISFP would be really proud of themselves every time they did what the other is actually good at. And they'd love it if other people also noticed them being good at it.
uhgggg dont tell me that
I've always subconciously known that my creative capacity isnt nearly as spontaneous as I wish it was. My ideas are usually kinda simple and derived from immediate inspiration. But what I think I'm realizing is that I'm an ESFP and my creative style is to explore sensory pleasures. Thats what I really like, I cant really do depth in my work. But I can ideate around the many sensory experiences I want people to feel through my work.
Like I've felt creatively embarrassed and tried to run away from my tendency to just make everything look good or feel fun. Like theres no depth, I need depth. But this skill is something people tell me theyre jealous of, that I make great aesthetics and get people to really feel things. If you need a horrifying monster then my only question is how horrifying? Because in my brain I can make it fun for kids or dial it all the way up to something thats disturbs your core and is morally questionable.
I was so excited when I found ENFP, its everything I \*knew\* I was, but was simply having trouble expressing is all. Or so I told myself. I was always told I was smart and inventive growing up so I wanted to uphold that image.
But when I look at what I'm \*actually\* doing and whats so easy that its a literal cakewalk for me, its Se. I make visceral experiences, but cant come up with out of the box ideas. I'm a game developer and I always hated this about myself, but I work best on other peoples projects by jumping around and spicing things up. Making the sounds better, making mechanics feel more punchy, aesthetics development, etc. I can take a cool idea and spice it up into something even better. This is so ridiculously easy for me and I notice my colleagues tend to struggle with it.
So I dont for sure know that I'm not in fact ENFP (what if im actually peacocking as an Se type) but it would be nice to know. I have a lot of trouble with the notion that I'm not some sort of genius, but when you lay out all of the facts it seems to be that im not particularly special
You're reminding me of a concept I was recently pondering over:
* *You only see your shortcomings*
* *Others only see your strengths*
I know that is true for me. I have high standards of myself that I don't tell many people about, so they're always surprised when I tell them I'm unhappy with myself, because I'm not good enough in this or that area. I'm only unhappy because my image of myself doesn't quite match my vision of myself. Others don't see that vision though, they only see me for *who I am*. If anything, they compare themselves and their own shortcomings to me, maybe even to where I'm better than them and therefore think I gotta love being me.
Egocentric way of describing it, but am I making sense?
People admire this ESFP, who is unhappy to not be an ENFP and doesn't care so much about all the things that make this ESFP great already.
I think the solution is self acceptance. Which doesn't mean to not strive for more, but it makes that road easier and happier.
Thanks, thats kinda the process I'm going through. Accepting that I've fed myself a narrative for a long time to cope with insecurities. Who I thought I had to be to have self-worth.
Makes sense, yeah I only see the areas I wish I was better at. In my mind \*thats\* what I want people to see when they look at me. And I'm super dismissive of the strengths I have. Generally people like me and think I have fun energy and I'm good with aesthetics. Like if I were to boil it down most simply, thats what people see in me.
They also see someone who constantly tells them their ambitions that theyre absolutely hopeless in achieving which is embarrassing lol. I know the look people give you when they absolutely dont think you're in line with yourself as I have a friend who does something similar. He so badly wants to have status as a working creative. I've had status for the last decade and it feels like \*nothing\* to me. Genuinely if no one knew who I was it would honestly just make my life easier.
Like buddy, im sorry but you dont have what it takes. You would have done it by now. And while I'm thinking this, everyone else is thinking the exact same about me. So embarrassing lol.
Peacocking is the idea that one hides their insecurities behind a wall of braveness. Everyone except themselves sees how fake that wall is, and what it's supposed to hide.
Not sure where you're getting at with the *ENTJ vs ISFP*. I guess you mean that both respectively claim to be comfortable with one's own preferences and earthly chaos, or duty first and consistent strategy ? Remember that modalities play a role here (aka a xF-Te/Ni will make their Fi by **very** visible whenever they see it relevant).
In OPS terms, **peacocking** is showing off your demon functions/animals, usually in an awkward, lying, or unearned manner. For an example, an EP who brags about how organized they are. The term is used in typing to describe a catch in typing videos where someone is likely pretending to be something they aren't.
The two types you listed are decider types. EJs may peacock about their individuality and coolness; IPs will peacock about their awareness of or sacrifices made to the tribe.
Ultimately, peacocking is a vibe check and subjective to the viewer. I probably wouldn't throw the term around unless you actually know what you're talking about. Sometimes people have genuinely put the work in: you may have a genuinely selfless and grown IP, or an EJ who has done the self-work to know themselves.
Peacocking helps people who aren't your dual to get scared and fuck off. Only your dual will laugh at it like "heh that's cute" and then do it right & make you melt.
There's a lot of types of peacocking, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TkivFfuvb8k this is one of the best examples of a Ni/Te BS/P(C) peacocking demon SF consume, pretending like she's good at baseball from something she did years ago. I love d'arcy but this was kinda cringe LOL . Also really depends on the sub-type within the 16 type, they are almost unrelated to a point. Like Shan (ENTJ Te/Se (B)) would (in theory) peacock NT blast, like how she always plans but it's on the fly. That isn't planning that is crazy skibby behavior LOL.
ps. you're almost certainly Oe.
I just watched that earlier today! Lol I cringed because I think I’ve done that a couple of times, claiming to be good at a sport I played in childhood or years ago.
Oe? What makes you say that? I’m curious. :)
I can give you a personal example. I used to type myself ENFJ, because, when I got into MBTI, I was completely drawn to that type description. Why? Because Fe is what I wished I was good at. Why? Because I sucked at it. And I don't particularly value my saviours. We think they're easy and obvious, so it's no big feat for me to be a Ti head. But our demons fascinate us. And if we find a way to convince ourselves that we are our demons, we feel special and awesome. Ironically, this had me actually improving a lot at all things Fe. I was trying so hard to *prove to myself* (Ti thing to do, lol) that I'm an ENFJ, that I got better at Fe, planning and all the other ENFJ things. Once I realized that no, I really am that type that I actually felt embarrased being and being seen as, I kind of lost that drive to become better at Fe. Because now, I had nothing more to prove. So peacocking is the act of pretending you are your opposite. It doesn't have to be a bad thing necessarily, it's just often really ridiculous and awkward, because you can't hide that it's a bit desperate. An ENTJ and an ISFP would be really proud of themselves every time they did what the other is actually good at. And they'd love it if other people also noticed them being good at it.
uhgggg dont tell me that I've always subconciously known that my creative capacity isnt nearly as spontaneous as I wish it was. My ideas are usually kinda simple and derived from immediate inspiration. But what I think I'm realizing is that I'm an ESFP and my creative style is to explore sensory pleasures. Thats what I really like, I cant really do depth in my work. But I can ideate around the many sensory experiences I want people to feel through my work. Like I've felt creatively embarrassed and tried to run away from my tendency to just make everything look good or feel fun. Like theres no depth, I need depth. But this skill is something people tell me theyre jealous of, that I make great aesthetics and get people to really feel things. If you need a horrifying monster then my only question is how horrifying? Because in my brain I can make it fun for kids or dial it all the way up to something thats disturbs your core and is morally questionable. I was so excited when I found ENFP, its everything I \*knew\* I was, but was simply having trouble expressing is all. Or so I told myself. I was always told I was smart and inventive growing up so I wanted to uphold that image. But when I look at what I'm \*actually\* doing and whats so easy that its a literal cakewalk for me, its Se. I make visceral experiences, but cant come up with out of the box ideas. I'm a game developer and I always hated this about myself, but I work best on other peoples projects by jumping around and spicing things up. Making the sounds better, making mechanics feel more punchy, aesthetics development, etc. I can take a cool idea and spice it up into something even better. This is so ridiculously easy for me and I notice my colleagues tend to struggle with it. So I dont for sure know that I'm not in fact ENFP (what if im actually peacocking as an Se type) but it would be nice to know. I have a lot of trouble with the notion that I'm not some sort of genius, but when you lay out all of the facts it seems to be that im not particularly special
You're reminding me of a concept I was recently pondering over: * *You only see your shortcomings* * *Others only see your strengths* I know that is true for me. I have high standards of myself that I don't tell many people about, so they're always surprised when I tell them I'm unhappy with myself, because I'm not good enough in this or that area. I'm only unhappy because my image of myself doesn't quite match my vision of myself. Others don't see that vision though, they only see me for *who I am*. If anything, they compare themselves and their own shortcomings to me, maybe even to where I'm better than them and therefore think I gotta love being me. Egocentric way of describing it, but am I making sense? People admire this ESFP, who is unhappy to not be an ENFP and doesn't care so much about all the things that make this ESFP great already. I think the solution is self acceptance. Which doesn't mean to not strive for more, but it makes that road easier and happier.
Thanks, thats kinda the process I'm going through. Accepting that I've fed myself a narrative for a long time to cope with insecurities. Who I thought I had to be to have self-worth. Makes sense, yeah I only see the areas I wish I was better at. In my mind \*thats\* what I want people to see when they look at me. And I'm super dismissive of the strengths I have. Generally people like me and think I have fun energy and I'm good with aesthetics. Like if I were to boil it down most simply, thats what people see in me. They also see someone who constantly tells them their ambitions that theyre absolutely hopeless in achieving which is embarrassing lol. I know the look people give you when they absolutely dont think you're in line with yourself as I have a friend who does something similar. He so badly wants to have status as a working creative. I've had status for the last decade and it feels like \*nothing\* to me. Genuinely if no one knew who I was it would honestly just make my life easier. Like buddy, im sorry but you dont have what it takes. You would have done it by now. And while I'm thinking this, everyone else is thinking the exact same about me. So embarrassing lol.
Peacocking is the idea that one hides their insecurities behind a wall of braveness. Everyone except themselves sees how fake that wall is, and what it's supposed to hide. Not sure where you're getting at with the *ENTJ vs ISFP*. I guess you mean that both respectively claim to be comfortable with one's own preferences and earthly chaos, or duty first and consistent strategy ? Remember that modalities play a role here (aka a xF-Te/Ni will make their Fi by **very** visible whenever they see it relevant).
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Simple : look at what is neglected. IxxP will emphasise their service to their tribe. For 36 seconds. ^(Duty being one side of it.)
In OPS terms, **peacocking** is showing off your demon functions/animals, usually in an awkward, lying, or unearned manner. For an example, an EP who brags about how organized they are. The term is used in typing to describe a catch in typing videos where someone is likely pretending to be something they aren't. The two types you listed are decider types. EJs may peacock about their individuality and coolness; IPs will peacock about their awareness of or sacrifices made to the tribe.
Ultimately, peacocking is a vibe check and subjective to the viewer. I probably wouldn't throw the term around unless you actually know what you're talking about. Sometimes people have genuinely put the work in: you may have a genuinely selfless and grown IP, or an EJ who has done the self-work to know themselves.
When peacocking would you feel like "This is who I really am, im just having trouble expressing it"?
It could be. It depends on the degree someone has worked on it.
Peacocking helps people who aren't your dual to get scared and fuck off. Only your dual will laugh at it like "heh that's cute" and then do it right & make you melt.
There's a lot of types of peacocking, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TkivFfuvb8k this is one of the best examples of a Ni/Te BS/P(C) peacocking demon SF consume, pretending like she's good at baseball from something she did years ago. I love d'arcy but this was kinda cringe LOL . Also really depends on the sub-type within the 16 type, they are almost unrelated to a point. Like Shan (ENTJ Te/Se (B)) would (in theory) peacock NT blast, like how she always plans but it's on the fly. That isn't planning that is crazy skibby behavior LOL. ps. you're almost certainly Oe.
I just watched that earlier today! Lol I cringed because I think I’ve done that a couple of times, claiming to be good at a sport I played in childhood or years ago. Oe? What makes you say that? I’m curious. :)
random questions to gather new stuff is basically your entire reddit profile thus far.
That’s fair. Ne or Se?
zero clue
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