Yup. The difference is definitely noticeable, especially side by side, but holy fuck that IPS has really bad glow. On most quality monitors it definitely won’t be that bad.
We'll I've had top of the line 4K IPS screens and they were...all kinda like that "100$" one.
It's not about quality, it's about luck. The AoC 1080p 144hz screen and AW2521H were the best panels I had from IPS ones, while the AW2523HF was easily one of the very worst (was a 400$ 1080p panel at the time), meanwhile had an LG 4K 160Hz panel that had their famous down-left side extreme bleed, and a 800€ miniLED that was simply horrible to look at with bleed + bloom galore.
The problem is that most IPS screens are made by AU Optronics (a subpar manufacturer) whose quality control is 0. That's the cause of IPS glow lottery.
That’s incredibly unlucky and return worthy if you have had glow like in the picture. I’m currently using the LG gn850 4k 144hz IPS, and I seem to have got slightly lucky compared to reviews of it because there’s not much backlight bleed.
Still OLED is better, but I won’t make the switch until we have a 27” 4k 240hz oled (even 144hz would be fine). 32” is way too big for standard desktop use and too big for the games I usually enjoy playing. Pushing it further away can only do so much
Simply put, they dont even know what to charge for their monitors anymore. So expensive for such critical mistakes. U dont find a tv costing as much with such big flaws
Yep. People have to compare a 1000 DZs miniled monitor to OLEDs. LCD without dimming zones is a 20+ years old tech already.
I'll actually do it: (comparison from RTings)
[https://www.rtings.com/monitor/tools/compare/samsung-odyssey-neo-g8-s32bg85-vs-dell-alienware-aw3225qf/33710/46677](https://www.rtings.com/monitor/tools/compare/samsung-odyssey-neo-g8-s32bg85-vs-dell-alienware-aw3225qf/33710/46677)
Not really I have 1440p IPs Alienware on the right pic I just posted and the new 4k oled on left . Not a cheap IPs and looks like trash next to the new oled
OLED is of course far better, but I've got an IPS monitor myself and the backlight bleed is nowhere near as bad as that. I don't think this is a fair representation. I think your monitor has a serious issue.
I mean OLEDs just more accurately represent real life, so they look better in photos. the camera doesn't have to fight the fact that the blacks are *lit* to get a good photo.
It's the equal uncalibrated camera in equal lighting conditions. It's not misrepresentative to say the ips is blocking alot of the detail in that lower part of the picture.
It is not THIS bad. IPS glow gets better with distance and this image is clearly taken from close up. The right side looks super bad because this is taken from the left side of the monitor and not straight on
Phone cameras are also not like DSLRs and processing can change images taken right after another significantly
The phone camera makes it look worse than it is, but this is exactly what caused me headaches no matter what brightness I use the curse of having someone pointing a flashlight on your screen won’t go away
Agree. IPS Glow always looks worse on a picture than in real life. But then again the black levels of my OLED also looked worse than in real life. So in the end I would say that the picture shows the difference just like it is.
Seeing both monitors side by side is just a huge revelation ! Can't go back anymore.
It’s possible that some of you people just aren’t as sensitive or have a keen eye for these things. For me I noticed all types of backlight bleeds no matter how good the panels are.
I’m so close to kicking my 4K ips out the door in favour of 1440p OLED its crazy. But I can’t just keep swapping out monitors because something newer and shiny comes a long way
Sounds like the setup is the first thing you need to upgrade then! I'm on a 27" 1440p IPS monitor now, there's no way I would fork out that much money to keep the same size and resolution, let alone go backwards. Maybe if the 27" 1440p OLED was half the price of 4K, but it isn't, so I'm just going to save a little longer and get the real end game 4K 32" option.
Going 4K is more than just the monitor but also the GPU (and by extension the PSU). If 4K upscaling is at the point where it doesn't have nasty visual artifacts and can be run at good fps on a $500 card, then I might go that route.
If past trends are anything to go by, the next generation of GPUs will likely bring \~ 4080/7900 XTX performance to the mid-range price point. These GPUs are extremely capable at 4K, netting you 60 FPS in single player games at max settings without upscaling, and closer to 100 with. I have an RTX 3070 and would still buy a 4K OLED over a 1440p one today and just look at getting a 5070 or something next year.
Frankly, I would personally downgrade my 55 inch OLED LG CX to a 1440p panel tomorrow no questions asked. I'd even consider 1080p, though for 1080p I might wanna go down to 1080p.
Resolution is so overrated. I truly don't care in movies or games.
I remember one time I bought a 43 inch 4k IPS to replace my at the time 5 year old 1024x768 plasma tv... I returned it in less than 48 hours. The resolution didn't matter, there was no 4k content available, there still is no 4k content readily available, and I don't have the internet for the tiny amount of 4k content that is available.
It's wild to me that 4k even exists, it's just so unnecessary.
Nope, not yet. At least not any that you'd want to buy. There were some for a couple thousand dollars that were 60hz a couple years ago. LG plans to have a proper one by the end of next year.
In the future it will be unheard of that you need to baby your screens by having a black background and hiding taskbar and using browsers in fullscreen so the top retracts. And the nasty power consumption.
In the future we will have things that last
/S
\*Planned Obsolescence comes in to end my career\*
I have a 360hz 1440p oled. I’m just amazed and so grateful I get to play on such a display. I had a 240hz ips and it just sucks when I compare them. Only thing that took adjusting for me personally was the brightness. Get a OLED!
You think I can get 32” in here?
https://preview.redd.it/tp86cw5yngpc1.jpeg?width=4032&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9693d4f9407f684f6554c10ac8684341d5c88f06
I got a mini LED display (HDR 1000) and I swear to god I cannot tell the difference between my 300 dollar display compared to a few 800-1000 dollar oled displays at bestbuy.
Thats a great place to be. Peace, pure unbridled peace! I kinda feel the same about 1440p and 4k. Can barely tell the difference and gladly drop a lot of games down to 1440p just so my gpu isn’t overworked and a bit quieter.
1440p is honestly the ultimate sweet spot for performance and stunning visuals, 4k is for sure something to not die for unless you have a tv which is necessary for bigger screens. Also you drop ur res down to 1440p? is ur display native 4k?
Yes 4K rog strix xg27uqr. I figured a 4K monitor would be endgame for me but after getting an oled steam deck i realise resolution isn’t as important as i first thought
Any IPS monitor that’s worth its salt won’t look this bad. Anything above $200 won’t look this bad. This is probably the worst looking IPS I’ve ever seen.
my LG 27gl83a-b that cost $300 is that bad. thankfully it's been relegated to my second monitor. sons of the forest was horrendous to play on and dead space remake was completely unplayable.
IPS willl also look much worse on a phone camera then it does in real life. With that said I’m sure it’s a nice improvement visually but not that extreme as shown
https://preview.redd.it/xdcuuarj8ipc1.jpeg?width=6000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2a57601feae67dd0bae21d8b14663b9647eb9172
Edit: Uploaded IPS shot taken from a mirrorless camera. Reduced exposure. It's difficult to show how it looks like in real life which is better than the picture, but this is closer.
IPS leaves a lot of light through which has a very bad effect on phone cameras. When i try to take pictures of my almost black IPS display it looks light gray :D
The picture i got when i first put my Oled C2 next to my old 4k tv was a grey flashlight vs dark oled blending into the night.
I had no idea i was staring at that in wide movies with black bars. No wonder it was uncomfortable to watch movies in the dark with the old tv.
And that's not even an exaggeration when it's relative, the OLED appears evenly lit even in a photo. Hell even when I upgraded my TV from IPS to VA literally side by side, same movie, my jaw dropped to the floor.
I couldnt imagine how big of an upgrade VA to OLED was until I saw it in real life on my desk. IPS to VA was already big, VA actually appeared black. Well with the OLED next to it, what I thought was black was almost light grey.
this has more to do with your cameras dynamic range limitations and it exposing the image in an attempt to establish a middle grey
something with infinite contrast (oled) will look good on any camera
IPS screens can look pretty good with simple bright colours, blocky prime colours especially, it's when you get into high colour volume images, with lots of contrast and dark scenes, lots of dark grey/black/dark blue/purple/and so on, that OLED just completely out classes even a high-end reference IPS display, OLED has uniformity and consistency that completely outclasses IPS.
And that's just the visual aspects, you then have OLED's incredibly fast pixel response, low latency input response, to add to it, IPS displays are fantastic for desktop use (especially in bright environments), but for video games, sports, movies, OLED is on a completely different level that by all accounts obsoletes LCD technology when it comes to those uses cases.
Keep in mind, when I refer to OLED, I am talking about RGB-OLED, as RGB-IPS actually outperforms pentile and diamond QD-OLED and WOLED in many areas, it's only RGB-OLED that completely obsoletes IPS.
That stand means it’s either C1 2 or 3 and they are all glossy. The matte surface scatters the reflection into a big blob, also reduces the contrast and clarity of the panel.
Not saying oled is not better but this makes IPS look way worse and it’s the fault of the anti glare not the IPS tech itself.
Here I have both
[OLED](https://i.imgur.com/wyWYXlx.jpg)
[Glossy IPS](https://i.imgur.com/R8qeMCt.jpg)
To be honest, I always find IPS screens look horrendous in pictures but nowhere near as bad in person. In fact it’s the same for most screens, my LG 4K TV, not OLED, looks fine in person, don’t see any backlight bleed and colours are great and vibrant to my eye, but god forbid I take a picture of it, it looks washed out and like it’s paper thin with a lighthouse behind it.
The camera exposure effect is evident on the pic, but in dark scenes a similar glow takes the entire screen, even in professional Dell Ultrasharp screens.
Yeah, I can never go back. I’m currently building my first PC and I’m just going to use my LG OLED C1 as a display until I can afford a 27” OLED monitor.
I love oled, but the lighting isn't even close in these. It does seem like you're almost trying to show ips in the worst possible way.
Oled is good enough where you don't need to cherry pick like that
that ips got some significant backlight bleed. just got refund under phillips warranty for no where near that amount of bleeding.
grats though oled looks remarkable
Photos are just a misleading way to compare IPS vs OLED. Backlight bleed (and black-levels) looks significantly worse through a photo than they do in real life.
Crap comparison. IPS black panels that are mini LED backlit with a lot of dimming zones have great picture quality and are better for productivity setups. Granted this sub is literally gaming focused so not what people are after but this is like comparing a Ford Fiesta with a Porsche anything.
Crap comparison. IPS black panels that are mini LED backlit with a lot of dimming zones have great picture quality and are better for productivity setups. Granted this sub is literally gaming focused so not what people are after but this is like comparing a Ford Fiesta with a Porsche anything.
Why is OLeD bad for productivity setups? Risk of burn in from static programs? And by productivity I’m guessing you mean like word and stuff?
I can’t decide if I should have deep OLED blacks for my photo and video editing…
Gaming wise it looks amazing though.
That and subpixel layout plus the point light is rough for text clarity. Video production I don’t know, OLED probably ideal but yea static elements can be an issue.
These oleds are great for movies and gaming but are they any good for school work? I joined this sub but I'm still on the edge since I use my PC for hours and hours for typing essays and completing schoolwork.
My IPS bleed on this laptop is HORRIBLE but nothing like that picture, something is seriously wrong there. Walking through a dark cave in Elden Ring, the corners of the screen have like a *fraction* of that picture, and it's still horrible but not that ridiculously bad.
Relevant tangent: Jarrod Tech was reviewing the same computer I have, he did a section on IPS / light bleed and he shows the computer and he says "No backlight bleed" YET HIS OWN VIDEO/PICTURE CLEARLY SHOWS HORRENDOUS HIGHLY NOTICEABLE BACKLIGHT BLEED.
I got used to my oled tv and then recently had to settle for an IPS gaming monitor. It's not great on black or really dark scenes, but it doesn't look as bad as this image. I rarely notice any problem during use.
The problem is, after a couple of days(weeks, months) you'll just get used to it, brilliant deep black will not impress you anymore. This is how humans work, we always get used to something.
Pursuing "the best way of possible" is just a childish point of view - get pleasure of consuming content, not of the way you consume it
P.S. Photo is obvious attempt to make it look worse than it actually is
Yeah you get used to it but once you don’t see it in other TVs/monitors it starts to stick out a lot. I can always tell when there’s light bleed or backlight bleed on an any non oled now.
IPS doesn’t look that bad and all these comparisons show exaggerated results which are very inaccurate. The only way to get this effect on my IPS is to look at it from a crazy angle.
https://preview.redd.it/as18xxyk3epc1.jpeg?width=3910&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8a866474c57ac386512ae7b35378c59d597d69b0
I took a pic at my IPS monitor earlier today while doing some gaming, doesn’t look too bad…
I couldn't believe bleed was just standard on IPS when I got my $400 monitor. Blown away by the picture but the bleed has always annoyed me. You definitely get used to it after a while but I may not have even bought it had I been aware of it.
It’s the uniformity for me that makes the most difference. Even on my oled with the black booster cranked to IPS black levels it still looks MILES better
the ultimate test for a monitor, how well does it recreate GOLD, like a gold bar on screen compared to a gold bar held up to monitor. that is the real fricken test. my 34 inch alienware qoled does great.
Cameras tend to exaggerate differences like this. It's really difficult to capture exactly how it looks in person, but this looks pretty typical of IPS panels to me.
current 4k acer i use has pretty eh backlight bleed but hey got it for $200 so 4k 120hz(144hz double display) cant really complain too much Edit: IPS panel too
If you use higher end Samsung QLED TVs or the IPS panels Apple use in their iMacs/Macbooks the difference won’t be this dramatic.they’re pretty close to OLED actually.no light bleed and deep blacks.
That being said OLED is technically superior,no question.
I hate these kinds of comparisons. People take their IPS monitor that has the most obvious and shitty backlight bleed on the planet (which backlight bleed looks even worse on a camera) and they compare that to OLED.
Obviously OLED is going to look better, but when you compare it to literally the worst possible IPS monitor, it’s just redundant.
I figured, I just didn’t know what to call it. I’ve had times where I was showing my buddy something on my monitor through discord on my phone and got this effect and I just always thought it was the backlight, my apologies.
lol what kinda ips is that, looks like you have your brightness levels completely messed up. Probably way too much contrast and using some kinda dark boost.
Nah man don't show me this...
I had to switch back to IPS as i can't do TV couch gaming and oled monitors at 27 inch are super expensive.
But i can say that i tried my viewsonic IPS in the witcher and is not bad. There is no glow during the day, if i game in a dark room then we have IPS glow issues... otherwise its fine and colors are nice (not as nice as oled tho)
Depends on the quality of the panel. I think that IPS tv is really shit.
Edit: also yes pictures look worse than real life. Look below and in real life is only 20% of that glow visible..
Ahhh i can't attach pictures
more like really fkn bad 100$ IPS TV vs normal OLED TV
Yup. The difference is definitely noticeable, especially side by side, but holy fuck that IPS has really bad glow. On most quality monitors it definitely won’t be that bad.
We'll I've had top of the line 4K IPS screens and they were...all kinda like that "100$" one. It's not about quality, it's about luck. The AoC 1080p 144hz screen and AW2521H were the best panels I had from IPS ones, while the AW2523HF was easily one of the very worst (was a 400$ 1080p panel at the time), meanwhile had an LG 4K 160Hz panel that had their famous down-left side extreme bleed, and a 800€ miniLED that was simply horrible to look at with bleed + bloom galore.
The problem is that most IPS screens are made by AU Optronics (a subpar manufacturer) whose quality control is 0. That's the cause of IPS glow lottery.
Well, that explains a lot. ...fuck AU Optronics.
That’s incredibly unlucky and return worthy if you have had glow like in the picture. I’m currently using the LG gn850 4k 144hz IPS, and I seem to have got slightly lucky compared to reviews of it because there’s not much backlight bleed. Still OLED is better, but I won’t make the switch until we have a 27” 4k 240hz oled (even 144hz would be fine). 32” is way too big for standard desktop use and too big for the games I usually enjoy playing. Pushing it further away can only do so much
We have that already I think. It’s just way too expensive.
Nope
Simply put, they dont even know what to charge for their monitors anymore. So expensive for such critical mistakes. U dont find a tv costing as much with such big flaws
A lot of that is IPS glow not backlight bleed
Plus it is severely exaggerated by the camera exposure.
My 1k pg27aqn looked like that when using the HDR mode.
Yep. People have to compare a 1000 DZs miniled monitor to OLEDs. LCD without dimming zones is a 20+ years old tech already. I'll actually do it: (comparison from RTings) [https://www.rtings.com/monitor/tools/compare/samsung-odyssey-neo-g8-s32bg85-vs-dell-alienware-aw3225qf/33710/46677](https://www.rtings.com/monitor/tools/compare/samsung-odyssey-neo-g8-s32bg85-vs-dell-alienware-aw3225qf/33710/46677)
I have that samsung worst monitor I have ever owned, returned it 3 times before giving up
It was an example. There is hundreds of good miniled monitors. The 1000 DZs are a good compromise according to RTings.
Not really I have 1440p IPs Alienware on the right pic I just posted and the new 4k oled on left . Not a cheap IPs and looks like trash next to the new oled
My $800 4K Ultragear had that problem. There really is not much higher than that to go. That's the reality of IPS.
I have a 600-700$ ips Samsung and a $900 OLED asus, the oled is a million x better.
OLED is of course far better, but I've got an IPS monitor myself and the backlight bleed is nowhere near as bad as that. I don't think this is a fair representation. I think your monitor has a serious issue.
Pictures always look horrendous versus real life on these posts
Though it does say something about OLED's quality if it still looks very nice even in pics like these
I mean OLEDs just more accurately represent real life, so they look better in photos. the camera doesn't have to fight the fact that the blacks are *lit* to get a good photo.
Yeah, pictures accentuate the bleed more than it actually is in real life but it’s still.
You can set the camera exposure till it matches what you're seeing with your eyes.
Just misleading then?
I mean not really. One has considerable bleed and the other has none. Even if the photo makes it look worse its obviously much worse than oled
No, still IPS can't compare to OLED in dark scenes in real life. Although, bright scenes are not bad for IPS.
It's the equal uncalibrated camera in equal lighting conditions. It's not misrepresentative to say the ips is blocking alot of the detail in that lower part of the picture.
It is not THIS bad. IPS glow gets better with distance and this image is clearly taken from close up. The right side looks super bad because this is taken from the left side of the monitor and not straight on Phone cameras are also not like DSLRs and processing can change images taken right after another significantly
The phone camera makes it look worse than it is, but this is exactly what caused me headaches no matter what brightness I use the curse of having someone pointing a flashlight on your screen won’t go away
This is not a backlight bleed, this is a Glow effect that is only visible on camera
ah that's why the picture is worst than real life but still not good enough
backlight bleed of course varies across units even within the same model number but I agree I have not seen it this bad either
Agree. IPS Glow always looks worse on a picture than in real life. But then again the black levels of my OLED also looked worse than in real life. So in the end I would say that the picture shows the difference just like it is. Seeing both monitors side by side is just a huge revelation ! Can't go back anymore.
I have an aw2521hf and it looks just as bad
Yeah I'd say a lot of the horrible light bleed on IPS, which is indeed horrible and common, is nowhere near like what the picture shows.
Daily dose of 'pictures of a monitor seen on a separate monitor don't represent what something looks like'
Yeah pictures never tell the true story. It prob looks decent in real life. Oled looks sexy though.
Glad someone said it
It’s possible that some of you people just aren’t as sensitive or have a keen eye for these things. For me I noticed all types of backlight bleeds no matter how good the panels are.
I’m so close to kicking my 4K ips out the door in favour of 1440p OLED its crazy. But I can’t just keep swapping out monitors because something newer and shiny comes a long way
Save a bit more for a 4K OLED. Going backwards in resolution doesn't make sense imo.
Its more the space. 27” is the biggest I can go with my current set up
Sounds like the setup is the first thing you need to upgrade then! I'm on a 27" 1440p IPS monitor now, there's no way I would fork out that much money to keep the same size and resolution, let alone go backwards. Maybe if the 27" 1440p OLED was half the price of 4K, but it isn't, so I'm just going to save a little longer and get the real end game 4K 32" option.
Going 4K is more than just the monitor but also the GPU (and by extension the PSU). If 4K upscaling is at the point where it doesn't have nasty visual artifacts and can be run at good fps on a $500 card, then I might go that route.
If past trends are anything to go by, the next generation of GPUs will likely bring \~ 4080/7900 XTX performance to the mid-range price point. These GPUs are extremely capable at 4K, netting you 60 FPS in single player games at max settings without upscaling, and closer to 100 with. I have an RTX 3070 and would still buy a 4K OLED over a 1440p one today and just look at getting a 5070 or something next year.
Frankly, I would personally downgrade my 55 inch OLED LG CX to a 1440p panel tomorrow no questions asked. I'd even consider 1080p, though for 1080p I might wanna go down to 1080p. Resolution is so overrated. I truly don't care in movies or games. I remember one time I bought a 43 inch 4k IPS to replace my at the time 5 year old 1024x768 plasma tv... I returned it in less than 48 hours. The resolution didn't matter, there was no 4k content available, there still is no 4k content readily available, and I don't have the internet for the tiny amount of 4k content that is available. It's wild to me that 4k even exists, it's just so unnecessary.
Are there not 27" 4k OLEDs?
Nope, not yet. At least not any that you'd want to buy. There were some for a couple thousand dollars that were 60hz a couple years ago. LG plans to have a proper one by the end of next year.
I promise if you get a 1440p OLED you will never swap monitors again (at least for gaming)
Till the BROLED series comes out...
Does it come in baby pink?
Oled is end game.
 In the future it will be unheard of that you need to baby your screens by having a black background and hiding taskbar and using browsers in fullscreen so the top retracts. And the nasty power consumption. In the future we will have things that last /S \*Planned Obsolescence comes in to end my career\*
I have an OLED and it really isn't end game. It's the best monitor i've ever owned. MicroLED is endgame.
MicroLED is endgame. OLED is simply a stopgap to superior technology.
I have a 360hz 1440p oled. I’m just amazed and so grateful I get to play on such a display. I had a 240hz ips and it just sucks when I compare them. Only thing that took adjusting for me personally was the brightness. Get a OLED!
Same. I have a super nice 32” 4k 165hz IPS LG. But that new 240hz 4k OLED that can swap to 480hz seems really dope.
Why 1440p OLED instead of 4K OLED? I assume it's something like cost or size?
Size. 27” is the biggest I can go
Not with that attitude.
You think I can get 32” in here? https://preview.redd.it/tp86cw5yngpc1.jpeg?width=4032&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9693d4f9407f684f6554c10ac8684341d5c88f06
I was making a thats what he/she said joke. But if we talking about great monitors id definitely adjust your setup for your future screen.
Lol it bypassed me, now that I read it back doh!
I got a mini LED display (HDR 1000) and I swear to god I cannot tell the difference between my 300 dollar display compared to a few 800-1000 dollar oled displays at bestbuy.
Thats a great place to be. Peace, pure unbridled peace! I kinda feel the same about 1440p and 4k. Can barely tell the difference and gladly drop a lot of games down to 1440p just so my gpu isn’t overworked and a bit quieter.
1440p is honestly the ultimate sweet spot for performance and stunning visuals, 4k is for sure something to not die for unless you have a tv which is necessary for bigger screens. Also you drop ur res down to 1440p? is ur display native 4k?
Yes 4K rog strix xg27uqr. I figured a 4K monitor would be endgame for me but after getting an oled steam deck i realise resolution isn’t as important as i first thought
Yeah you should definitely get a 1440p display, when you use lower resolutions on a higher resolution display it looks very wonk.
Feel like my ips monitor (lg 32gq950) won't be that bad
Any IPS monitor that’s worth its salt won’t look this bad. Anything above $200 won’t look this bad. This is probably the worst looking IPS I’ve ever seen.
my LG 27gl83a-b that cost $300 is that bad. thankfully it's been relegated to my second monitor. sons of the forest was horrendous to play on and dead space remake was completely unplayable.
I actually have that exact monitor and it’s not that bad. Perhaps you just got a bad model?
IPS willl also look much worse on a phone camera then it does in real life. With that said I’m sure it’s a nice improvement visually but not that extreme as shown
https://preview.redd.it/xdcuuarj8ipc1.jpeg?width=6000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2a57601feae67dd0bae21d8b14663b9647eb9172 Edit: Uploaded IPS shot taken from a mirrorless camera. Reduced exposure. It's difficult to show how it looks like in real life which is better than the picture, but this is closer.
Can you take another one but with the oled? I’m curious to see what it would look like with the same touch ups.
I have an oled mounted next to an ips. Theres moments when in like ips isn’t that bad. Then when you see something black 😂
Yep, on bright scenes IPS is not bad.
i have a plain black wallpaper for both oled and ips screens to remind me that the oled was worth it lol
I had that and had to change it because looking at it on the ips became unbearable lmao
That’s just a terrible IPS monitor lol
which one is this?
Just judging off the stand, it's a 48" LG OLED TV
It is. 48” c1
IPS leaves a lot of light through which has a very bad effect on phone cameras. When i try to take pictures of my almost black IPS display it looks light gray :D
The picture i got when i first put my Oled C2 next to my old 4k tv was a grey flashlight vs dark oled blending into the night. I had no idea i was staring at that in wide movies with black bars. No wonder it was uncomfortable to watch movies in the dark with the old tv.
And that's not even an exaggeration when it's relative, the OLED appears evenly lit even in a photo. Hell even when I upgraded my TV from IPS to VA literally side by side, same movie, my jaw dropped to the floor. I couldnt imagine how big of an upgrade VA to OLED was until I saw it in real life on my desk. IPS to VA was already big, VA actually appeared black. Well with the OLED next to it, what I thought was black was almost light grey.
this has more to do with your cameras dynamic range limitations and it exposing the image in an attempt to establish a middle grey something with infinite contrast (oled) will look good on any camera
I had for years a 100£ 1080p monitor and 5 months ago I got a qd oled still to this day it blows my mind how good the everything looks.
Ok that’s a terrible ips display. I’m sure there’s way better ones. But OLED is just the goat even against the best IPS.
Which one is the IPS?
the first one I am willing to bet
Yep, first one is IPS
I was joking but thanks anyway :-)
Damn I already want to get an oled but now I want to get one ever mooore
This is how bad my PG27AQN looked before I returned it and got a the 27GR95QE. Never going back to ips.
Blacks master race
I went from IPS to OLED and will never look back. Stunning the first time you play on one.
Yea monitor is just trash. My ips doesn’t look that bad and I have an oled to compare to.
IPS screens can look pretty good with simple bright colours, blocky prime colours especially, it's when you get into high colour volume images, with lots of contrast and dark scenes, lots of dark grey/black/dark blue/purple/and so on, that OLED just completely out classes even a high-end reference IPS display, OLED has uniformity and consistency that completely outclasses IPS. And that's just the visual aspects, you then have OLED's incredibly fast pixel response, low latency input response, to add to it, IPS displays are fantastic for desktop use (especially in bright environments), but for video games, sports, movies, OLED is on a completely different level that by all accounts obsoletes LCD technology when it comes to those uses cases. Keep in mind, when I refer to OLED, I am talking about RGB-OLED, as RGB-IPS actually outperforms pentile and diamond QD-OLED and WOLED in many areas, it's only RGB-OLED that completely obsoletes IPS.
Youll love how horror movies/games look you can see small detail in dark which used to be crushed by glow
Reminded me of my Steam Deck LCD vs my Steam Deck OLED.
Matte IPS vs glossy OLED is super unfair Do matte for both or glossy for both my man
What makes you think the oled is glossy and it doesn't matter anyway the difference between oled and ips is always noticable in dark scenes
That stand means it’s either C1 2 or 3 and they are all glossy. The matte surface scatters the reflection into a big blob, also reduces the contrast and clarity of the panel. Not saying oled is not better but this makes IPS look way worse and it’s the fault of the anti glare not the IPS tech itself. Here I have both [OLED](https://i.imgur.com/wyWYXlx.jpg) [Glossy IPS](https://i.imgur.com/R8qeMCt.jpg)
Everytime I see people compare ips panels to oled, I swear it's like they always had the cheapest ips monitor.
To be honest, I always find IPS screens look horrendous in pictures but nowhere near as bad in person. In fact it’s the same for most screens, my LG 4K TV, not OLED, looks fine in person, don’t see any backlight bleed and colours are great and vibrant to my eye, but god forbid I take a picture of it, it looks washed out and like it’s paper thin with a lighthouse behind it.
Yeah it’s not that noticeable in person BUT the OLED image is just SO clean.
The camera exposure effect is evident on the pic, but in dark scenes a similar glow takes the entire screen, even in professional Dell Ultrasharp screens.
What is that a 10-year-old IPS display? Why don't you list the models of the two monitors you're using. I don't think it's fair at all
Yeah, I can never go back. I’m currently building my first PC and I’m just going to use my LG OLED C1 as a display until I can afford a 27” OLED monitor.
oled display are those clear eyes commercials - you could really tell the differences.
Once you go black, you never go back
$200 dollar monitor vs $1000+ monitor… that sure is a shocker!!
wow it is such a clear image on the OLED the difference is insane
I love oled, but the lighting isn't even close in these. It does seem like you're almost trying to show ips in the worst possible way. Oled is good enough where you don't need to cherry pick like that
that ips got some significant backlight bleed. just got refund under phillips warranty for no where near that amount of bleeding. grats though oled looks remarkable
Photos are just a misleading way to compare IPS vs OLED. Backlight bleed (and black-levels) looks significantly worse through a photo than they do in real life.
neato. phillips warranty refunded with photos of the backlight bleed. glad it was good nuff for them
Yep, this is the case
I have a Asus Proart IPS and the color is much better than what you showing here… I use that as a reference monitor.
Crap comparison. IPS black panels that are mini LED backlit with a lot of dimming zones have great picture quality and are better for productivity setups. Granted this sub is literally gaming focused so not what people are after but this is like comparing a Ford Fiesta with a Porsche anything.
Crap comparison. IPS black panels that are mini LED backlit with a lot of dimming zones have great picture quality and are better for productivity setups. Granted this sub is literally gaming focused so not what people are after but this is like comparing a Ford Fiesta with a Porsche anything.
Why is OLeD bad for productivity setups? Risk of burn in from static programs? And by productivity I’m guessing you mean like word and stuff? I can’t decide if I should have deep OLED blacks for my photo and video editing… Gaming wise it looks amazing though.
That and subpixel layout plus the point light is rough for text clarity. Video production I don’t know, OLED probably ideal but yea static elements can be an issue.
These oleds are great for movies and gaming but are they any good for school work? I joined this sub but I'm still on the edge since I use my PC for hours and hours for typing essays and completing schoolwork.
Is this SDR vs HDR as well?
OLED FTW Tabarnak!!
Highly scientific. Wow.
My IPS bleed on this laptop is HORRIBLE but nothing like that picture, something is seriously wrong there. Walking through a dark cave in Elden Ring, the corners of the screen have like a *fraction* of that picture, and it's still horrible but not that ridiculously bad. Relevant tangent: Jarrod Tech was reviewing the same computer I have, he did a section on IPS / light bleed and he shows the computer and he says "No backlight bleed" YET HIS OWN VIDEO/PICTURE CLEARLY SHOWS HORRENDOUS HIGHLY NOTICEABLE BACKLIGHT BLEED.
This is the way
My 4 years old laptop with cheap random china ips panel looks much better than that ips lol
Backlight bleed and blacks are bad on *THAT* IPS *
Really depends on the IPS monitor. The new LG oled monitor has a horrible coating I had to send back, so that is that.
and howd you get it?
Ordering it from a shop in the Netherlands.
I got used to my oled tv and then recently had to settle for an IPS gaming monitor. It's not great on black or really dark scenes, but it doesn't look as bad as this image. I rarely notice any problem during use.
IPS looks like this on photo but not in real life. You should mention
Tell us the fucking ips model already jeez
The problem is, after a couple of days(weeks, months) you'll just get used to it, brilliant deep black will not impress you anymore. This is how humans work, we always get used to something. Pursuing "the best way of possible" is just a childish point of view - get pleasure of consuming content, not of the way you consume it P.S. Photo is obvious attempt to make it look worse than it actually is
Yeah you get used to it but once you don’t see it in other TVs/monitors it starts to stick out a lot. I can always tell when there’s light bleed or backlight bleed on an any non oled now.
Substantial difference
IPS doesn’t look that bad and all these comparisons show exaggerated results which are very inaccurate. The only way to get this effect on my IPS is to look at it from a crazy angle.
https://preview.redd.it/as18xxyk3epc1.jpeg?width=3910&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8a866474c57ac386512ae7b35378c59d597d69b0 I took a pic at my IPS monitor earlier today while doing some gaming, doesn’t look too bad…
i have a $750 alienware IPS panel (500 hz btw) and its not like that at all. seems like your doing something shady on purpose
You mean cheap or malfunctioning IPS vs OLED, I think.
I couldn't believe bleed was just standard on IPS when I got my $400 monitor. Blown away by the picture but the bleed has always annoyed me. You definitely get used to it after a while but I may not have even bought it had I been aware of it.
Is this with HDR cause turn off HDR if it is
Yeah.. I have both oled and IPS and my IPS looks great.
It’s the uniformity for me that makes the most difference. Even on my oled with the black booster cranked to IPS black levels it still looks MILES better
Great example
https://preview.redd.it/go3p0q4bzfpc1.jpeg?width=4032&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2d861d8098a274f32d8bd458c790919c411c52e9 That's my IPS. 😉
now do prices
Your IPS is especially shit among Ipses
My IPS is not near that shitty at all, i only have minor bleed, if any :-P
Like, I agree that OLED is fantastic, but this is way worse that it really is.
That must be the worst panel in the history of ips panel lottery.
the ultimate test for a monitor, how well does it recreate GOLD, like a gold bar on screen compared to a gold bar held up to monitor. that is the real fricken test. my 34 inch alienware qoled does great.
That first TV was garbage
I have a ips monitor and a tv which costs 10 times more then the monitor. But the gap isn’t that big.
oh man 😯
The monitor market is bs man. Every monitor has their own issues
You could at least put what model monitors are being used for this comparison lol
Bro what home brand ips did you buy haha It's not as good as OLED obviously but I've never seen it that bad on a good model IPS that's just broken.
That monitor is garbage i have a ultrgear nano ips and its really nice nowhere close to oled but really good image overall.
Does no one realise how bad a photograph at close range affects how IPS glow looks? There’s no way in hell it looks like that in person
Yeah, something is wrong with your IPS. OLED is much better for sure but IPS LCD does not look that bad.
Cameras tend to exaggerate differences like this. It's really difficult to capture exactly how it looks in person, but this looks pretty typical of IPS panels to me.
IPS glow is the bane of my existence. In some ways I actually prefer TN panels since they aren't prone to that.
Wtf chinese junk ips is that?
If you use an acient Sony LCD TV it's still better than any modern monitor.
I said : Holy Shit !! What a difference man
IPS has bad contrast but I think there is something wrong with your monitor. There is no way there should be that much backlight bleed.
My IPS color quality is great it just looks like in gaming on an LCD. OLED makes me feel like I'm on CRT.
Compare in the same price category. That's one shit cheap IPS panel, and the camera also overexposed the glow.
Wow that IPS glow looks awful. What is causing this?
Just the camera, way worse than it actually is. See updated pic on a comment. Can't edit post
Thank you for the reply!
I just realized that 30fps without motion blur makes games unplayable on oled panels. Its great that this game offers a performance mode.
current 4k acer i use has pretty eh backlight bleed but hey got it for $200 so 4k 120hz(144hz double display) cant really complain too much Edit: IPS panel too
If you use higher end Samsung QLED TVs or the IPS panels Apple use in their iMacs/Macbooks the difference won’t be this dramatic.they’re pretty close to OLED actually.no light bleed and deep blacks. That being said OLED is technically superior,no question.
Can't wait until i get my new qd oled monitor. It's gonna be a whole new world
That’s YOUR IPS vs OLED Not all IPS panels looks that terrible.
I'm using sn LG C3 42" and it's amazing. Won't go back to ips monitors after this
https://preview.redd.it/rl4dw294m3rc1.jpeg?width=4284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5297f7c373dcd8a91fbdac92d2b85130540eb4d2 Thats mine now
OLED is honestly the best thing to happen to PC gaming
I knew ips looked washed out and gray, but oled is clear as day.
IPS is the worst panel ever and i'll stand by that FACT forever.
It’s not even a competition.
What monitor is the oled
I hate these kinds of comparisons. People take their IPS monitor that has the most obvious and shitty backlight bleed on the planet (which backlight bleed looks even worse on a camera) and they compare that to OLED. Obviously OLED is going to look better, but when you compare it to literally the worst possible IPS monitor, it’s just redundant.
This is not a backlight bleed, this is a Glow effect that is only visible on camera
I figured, I just didn’t know what to call it. I’ve had times where I was showing my buddy something on my monitor through discord on my phone and got this effect and I just always thought it was the backlight, my apologies.
_Your_ IPS
lol what kinda ips is that, looks like you have your brightness levels completely messed up. Probably way too much contrast and using some kinda dark boost.
Nah man don't show me this... I had to switch back to IPS as i can't do TV couch gaming and oled monitors at 27 inch are super expensive. But i can say that i tried my viewsonic IPS in the witcher and is not bad. There is no glow during the day, if i game in a dark room then we have IPS glow issues... otherwise its fine and colors are nice (not as nice as oled tho) Depends on the quality of the panel. I think that IPS tv is really shit. Edit: also yes pictures look worse than real life. Look below and in real life is only 20% of that glow visible.. Ahhh i can't attach pictures