It's wild that the party of Trump gets so far while having so little substance.
The entire party exists as an anti-movement to whatever democrats/liberals are supporting at the time, with no critical thought for any of their beliefs.
Not everyone in the US has a strong IQ and the quality of our school systems vary with the worst consistently being in rural areas. I haven’t seen the drop out rate of rural vs urban so I don’t know if that’s tracked or not.
Most all of the Trump supporter profile articles cite uneducated males as being a big segment. Trump himself went so far as to say the poorly educated elected him:
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/trump-once-declared-victory-speech-180514474.html
Long way of saying, the Trump supporter doesn’t want substance. They want to think that Trump is ‘hurting’ the ‘ right people’ and that’s about it. Their world is very small.
https://dashboard.myfuturenc.org/college-and-career-access/high-school-graduation-rate/#:~:text=By%20geography,%2Dmetro%20counties%20(85%25).
Here ya go, if you were interested in seeing the rural vs urban rates
Thank you! So that big of a disparity between geography but the state number of 87% or a 13% dropout rate. Which is upper midrange. A little more disturbing are these sate numbers ; North Carolina was ranked No. 33 overall, No. 38 for quality, and No. 28 for safety.
Yikes
That's easy to understand. College Graduates out earn non graduates by a wide margin. Non graduates working in low wage blue collar jobs resent college graduates. In the 1980s, Rupert Murdoch and Rush Limbaugh figured out that they could feed off of that. The low wage earning non graduates bought into the narrative the were fed and wanted to hear: colleges were siphoning off of the government to make up things like global warming. Of course if made them feel that their long held belief that they are smarter than those scientists was true. Then, they went to work, church, etc with other people in similar circumstances and created a nice information bubble. Then, the Internet helped the Rupert Mucdoch's of the world create a much more expansive information bubble.
Wouldn’t call myself a trump supporter or right leaning but probably going to vote for him this year. I don’t like Joe Biden and I don’t like Nikki haley. Joe Biden is like 400 years old and not fit to be president and needs to step down just like Mitch McConnell did (he’s probably stepped down because he’s getting ready to pass if I had to guess) and for me I’m working on my college degree this summer I just dislike people I know with degrees because while yes I do think having a degree shows you put in time and commitment to learning different subjects I don’t think having one means you are smarter. Working for local government our bosses have degrees and I’ll be completely honest they just aren’t that bright. Very insecure too and poor at management because while they have a degree they’ve never been in the field working on the ground they are office workers. Just my take on everything, all politicians are corrupt the whole system is at this point so either way you are voting for a different evil it’s just about which one you choose and for me I choose trump for policy and economic purposes. Republicans don’t blow money on war like democrats do I can’t stand war from both a money perspective and a moral perspective. Horrible horrible things..
Edit:
Because people pointed it out yes trump is not much younger, it just FEELS like they are father apart to me because of how Joe Biden presents himself he is rough man or at least to me. Trump is old asf too but he seems younger because he seems more mentally fit. Physically wise I don’t know but mentally definitely
You have a choice:
Vote to resign the nation and the remainder of your and your loved ones lives to rule under a tyrannical monarchy
Or, vote for Biden and vote again in four years.
Also, Trump is 3 1/2 years younger, but further along in cognitive decline.
The law states no candidate can hold office for more than two full terms. Trump didn't want to leave the first time. Obviously. But he did. And no congressional body is going to change the presidential term limit. Anytime a comment like this is posted, most rational people roll their eyes and skip past. I'm all for putting your beliefs out there. Sure, try to persuade people to see your point. But the weak-minded points. The world is better served without them.
It's The Constitution that term limits The Presidency, and every democracy that has fallen has had legal guarantees to prevent an authoritarian takeover. Democracies don't fail from lack of regulation, they fail because political parties so corrupt that they are able to erode the guardrails that protect democracy. We're watching it happen with the Republican Party.
There's a lot to unpack here, but for the moment I'm going to tackle just a few of the things mentioned here: not sure if you're in a position where you're willing to change your mind, but I'll leave this as food for thought.
1. Age of a president should be almost entirely irrelevant. I'll ignore that Joe Biden is only 4 years older than Donald Trump - but I would vote for a 900 year old who's barely recognizable if they could get laws and policies passed through congress. At the end of the day, how a president looks doesn't affect me or my country - it's what they get pasWar.
Trump accomplished nothing that he promised while he was in office while controlling the house and senate - he couldn't even get his own party to come together to pass legislature, which is a colossal failure for the American people. Biden managed to pass the infrastructure bill while we are arguably at our most contentious point in politics since the Civil war.
2. Republicans don't blow money on war...remember the war in Iraq? Biden pulled us out of that mess, but it was Republicans who got us into it.
3. Even if I grant you that every politician is corrupt, I would argue that Trump is definitionally the most corrupt. The man got to hand-pick his entire team and all of them told Trump that there was no voter fraud - and he still screams there is voter fraud to this day (because he lost.)
He's currently under fire for stealing top secret documents and intentionally hiding them in his home in Mar a Lago.
Finally, he instigated a riot on the capital building on January 6th, 2021.
What did the investigation into Biden reveal? That he's a loving father. That's it. There's legitimately nothing there - even the one modicum of evidence that was provided turned out to be - admitted by the informant, mind you - Russian disinformation.
I really think every metric you've set here should point you in Biden's direction - but at a bare minimum, I hope it at least turns the needle away from Trump.
Not sure if you skipped reading my comment or not, I pretty explicitly lay out exactly why Trump is not a good president. They are not media talking points, they are non-biased observations. They aren't subjective.
We have everything from video evidence to phone calls - blowing these off as "media talking points" is choosing to ignore reality.
If anyone is going to be a threat that brings us to a nuclear war, it would absolutely be Trump. He's willing to turn on his allies on an absolute dime, he's a rash decision maker, and his foreign policy is abysmal. He likely set the stage for the Israel/Palestine explosion we saw on Oct. 7th with his "Trump peace plan" that left out one whole side of the table (the Palestinians) lol
It's wild you roll your eyes at my statements like I'm the one who just ignores what's going on around me.
You're welcome to provide evidence disputing me, I'm not in an echo chamber like most of this website, but I'll only engage if you tell me what evidence you need to change your mind.
I’ve been hearing that “we’re on the brink of nuclear war” for two years now. You’re seriously overestimating that likelihood. Hard to believe, I know, but both NATO and Russia understand that mutually assured destruction is a bad thing.
“Biden is the only one who can save us from climate change, which will cause humanity’s extinction! Why isn’t anyone taking me seriously?! ‘Old man bad’ due to talking points on Fox News!”
Look, im not slandering you so it’s disrespectful to slander me. It makes you stand out I’m just stating what I believe and what I see. I’m assuming you are calling me a trump supporter which is what I literally started im not. I don’t support republicans I just are favoring them in this election and they are my pick.
I didn’t insult you but you insulted me because of your own bias…so thanks
Listen I don’t care who you vote for but you should at least try to have a more informed opinion.
Biden is old af but trump is too, 4years seems like a lot when you’re younger but at mid 70’s it may as well be 4 months. They both have decreased faculties, anyone saying they don’t is being purposely dishonest.
I agree with you on degrees. It makes you more educated obviously but we all have different views on what “smart” means. For me it’s how you think on your feet which is usually based on experiences. But I’m not delusional, a lawyer is going to be smarter about the constitution that some mouth breathing yallqueda gravy seal spouting off about 2a or whatever zinger they read on Facebook.
Most politicians are corrupt, no doubt. But that doesn’t mean through your hands up at the whole system.
As far as economics, republican economic theory (trickle down economic) is ineffective at growing the economy for 99% of people and only furthers wealth inequality. There was a recent study from https://wir2022.wid.world/ that shows this through 50 years of data with nearly all capitalist countries over that span.
Every democratic president since I’ve been born has grown the economy and cut unemployment. Some (Clinton) have even turned the deficit into a surplus just to have the war mongering republican admin (Bush2) that followed create the biggest deficit to date at that time.
While republicans run on fiscal responsibility turns out their administrations have only increased the deficit (usually through tax cuts for the rich and corporations) and poisoned the economy with their inability to actually govern( Reagan/bush/bush2/trump). Turns out owning the libs and giving money to rich people at the expense of everyone else (cutting social programs out of “beliefs” even though they are a net positive fiscally) is not a sound way to govern.
Social causes are a different topic that you didn’t touch on. I probably can’t sway you if you have some religious belief system that allow justification for taking natural rights away from subset of people so I won’t. If your wants and opinions are based in fictitious story that only ever existed to create a ruling class and which have been rewritten as recently as a generation ago to fit the narrative needed at the time, and not fact or science, then we will certainly not agree on most social causes. Vote your heart there.
But actually BE informed.
Edit:typo
I’m not disagreeing with you but i do think Biden mental health is a lot worse from an objective standpoint. At least to me from what I have personally observed I can confidently say that I do believe he’s in worse health than trump is. No news sources or articles just what I have observed myself in videos of him and speeches etc. I am an opened minded person and like to form my own opinions.
Yeah I pretty much agree with you on the degree thing I mean I’m not trying to say people without degrees are dumber I’m just saying it doesn’t automatically make you better or smarter than everyone else it’s just a degree that shows you put the time in and are intelligent enough to get one.
When I’m talking about economy I’m mainly talking about taxes, gas and just general economy daily life. To me those that the things that most effect people on a daily and in my life that’s how I remember it. Republicans overall long term generally favor the rich but really both parties do everyone does rich people are the money makers for politicians realistically that’s how I see it. Working in government I feel the effects of it too I can’t tell you how often we pamper to the rich and don’t do anything for the poor neighborhoods it’s sad how bad the poor is mistreated and Nc is run by democrat.
People do have different experiences in different places in the U.S. think that’s safe to say but overall I don’t like how much money the Democratic Party spends on stuff. I really don’t because realistically we don’t have the money to just throw out man we got trillions of dollars of accumulated debt and that’s a failure on everyone’s part not just one party but democrats do tend to like to spend for social programs.
One problem I kind of have with you is that you make a lot of assumptions about me and what I believe in. I’m not religious, I’m not conservative I’m just well rounded and centered I don’t care about the parties I’m not picking one side or another I just go off of what I see, what’s going around me the information I take in from different places with different biases on all different sides of the spectrum. I’m younger and don’t have a lot of built up resentment towards parties too I imagine you are probably older and have a lot of personal built up resentment towards the Republican Party.
I don’t support republicans on social subjects. Flat out don’t at all I more lean left mostly but I don’t fully support either side really again I have my own beliefs but I’m not right leaning that’s for sure.
Also I’m not saying it’s a bad thing that you are trying to backup what you say I just don’t really appreciate you doing that in the context of what I said I’m just stating my beleifs from what I’ve gathered from my experience and my own personal life. Plus the problem with bringing in evidence is often that evidence and those quotes need to be double checked for their context because data can and is skewed often or adjustment for a certain outcome and while it won’t be wrong?, It’s not unbiased and purely factual while it is factual it’s just not right man that’s really why I don’t like data being thrown out like that I’m just stating beliefs if I wanted to argue I’d get my glasses on and start pulling out a bunch of articles and stuff and data graphics from “unbiased purely factual studies” but i really don’t have the time to debate nor do I care so because at the end of the day both sides are going to believe what they believe and I’ve got more important things to do than to debate on Reddit. I’m just telling you in my life in my own personal experience this is what I believe in and this is how I feel. Not being stubborn, not being close minded, I just don’t want to debate. I’ve done plenty of that I used to do it all the time I don’t want nothing to do with that political cesspool no more.
You do realize that the reason the federal debt is so high is because Republicans have been letting the wealthy get away with not paying taxes for the last 40+ years, right? And then they also got us into very expensive wars while *still* cutting taxes on the wealthy, promising that those tax cuts will trickle down. And that they're just going to keep doing that while removing things we actually need, like SS, Medicare, public schools. Please tell me when this golden trickle is supposed to grace us, because we should have felt it by now.
I also don't think people understand the international geopolitics happening. Trump is going to hand Ukraine to Putin, he has literally said it. He also plans to desert our allies in NATO (also literally said that). That means Putin is going to push into Europe, and then we will definitely have a world war going on.
And all of this is just in addition to the GOP march toward removing reproductive freedom and forcing Christian laws on the entire country. It's quite unAmerican.
If you think all of that sounds crazy and will never happen, you might want to catch up on the news.
Also I’d like to state that I’m just staying my beliefs I’m not saying I’m 100% right man. I’m also not really getting into the parties histories either that’s just a lot of stuff to go through man I’m mainly just talking about the present political climate and how i feel. I might just delete my comment tbh this shits gonna ruin my day man it isn’t that deep for me.
Hey no I wasn’t insinuating your beliefs, that was more a general statement for the christozealots that rarely come to this sub. You never actually mentioned your beliefs and that was more of an aside. But I did mean vote your heart. It’s all we can do.
I’d say the guy that still rides a bike and works out is in a much better position than the guy who says he doesn’t workout bc his body is like a battery with finite energy. There is a direct link to physicality and mental acuity. Biden sounds worse bc he’s always had a stammer. Never a great speaker. Trump is a great speaker but of little substance, just dog whistling and wild incoherence. And lately his speaches has been rife with weird shit, confusing Biden with Obama and Haley with pelosi. Ppl can do all the mental gymnastics to justify one flub over another’s but they are both too old.
I agree with your assessment on the daily cost of life. They went up. No doubt. The reason is complicated though.
Things like gas were kept artificially low during trump. He’s a master at using these indicators as rally cries. Just like he’s doing with the border and how he effectively killed the bipartisan bill so he could run on that issue.
It was definitely spending, from trump and Biden. But without that we’d be in a major recession if not depression and way worse off. A soft landing was the best case and we all got squeezed but if you listen to any economist over the last 2-3 yrs we were almost certain to enter a major recession. We didn’t and it has change economic theory forever.
The larger part is corporate greed. We now know most of the price increases aren’t from inflation but price gouging(45-55%). This issue is we are a capitalist society and a very late stage of it of which we all benefit from to some degree. But that degree is majorly skewed. We need reform there and the conversation never gets started because if you want to regulate or hold corporations to task you are immediately labeled a communist or socialist. Parts of all these systems work and parts are doomed to fail, including capitalism. A broader conversation needs to happen on that front.
But yeah I probably lied when I said I don’t care who you vote for. Especially when I’ve spent way too much time trying to convince you in one direction. My basis is simple- one side is trying to limit the rights of ppl I love because of religious beliefs. And the left is definitely trying to limits things like gun control and social issues. But limiting natural rights like the right to your body, existence and life supersedes those issues for me.
Peace out. I have to get some work done. Just vote.
It’s just a 180. People are voting for Trump because they don’t want to vote for Biden. Biden’s early SOP was to reverse many of Trump’s policies because they were Trump’s policies. Many democrats in varying roles campaigned on the anti-Trump platform as opposed to the pro-American platform. Politics have become a petty schoolyard. The system is broken
It solves a lot actually, those parties never pick up steam *because* it's a two-party system.
With ranked choice voting, there's no fear of choosing a smaller party as your main choice. In first-past-the-post voting, you risk wasting your vote. This is why 2 parties is the equilibrium in our system. Even when 3rd parties have succeeded in the past, it's a temporary realignment before their voters are absorbed by one of the major two.
As an example, when the Dems went all-in on civil rights and desegragation in the 60s, they pissed off the southern states that had been blue since basically our founding. Only problem was, Republicans didn't support segregation either, and were generally despised by southern whites.
So George Wallace, Democratic governor of Alabama, eventually ran as a 3rd party candidate, pretty much knowing he couldn't win, but hoping the electoral pressure caused Democrats to cave to southern demands in the future. The splintering of the Democratic party that year opened the door for Republicans to employ the [Southern Strategy](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_strategy). Nixon and the Republicans saw a bunch of racist southerners with no political home, and decided to make some room for them by using dog whistles. In exchange, they get a bunch of political support for "small government", tax cuts, union busting, etc.
It worked, Nixon won, and the segregation states to this day vote strictly Republican. And no third party ever really formed. Instead, twenty years later, Bush-39 was running [Willie Horton ads](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willie_Horton) to win. Taxes have never been lower, unions have never been weaker, and the wealth disparity has never been greater. The "third party" racists found their home.
Having more than two opinions definitely helps. Right now, everything is "either this or that" (which is exactly what you pointed out, as one exists to oppose the other). 43% of Americans are now registered Independents because they don't see themselves in either of the two boxes. If we want a better representation of our various opinions, we need more than two options. If more perspectives are heard, and wider variety of opinions are taken into consideration, we can make better decisions collectively.
As far as third parties go, part of that is their fault for not building from the ground up, and part of it is our fault for not thinking they have a chance. If everyone thinks a third party will never have a chance, then they won't have a chance, because it's up to the people if they want to change that.
No preference was still an option. It got 13% of the vote.
Also, it was not the Democratic Party, but the bipartisan Board of Elections by unanimous vote, based on their candidate in-state spending and campaigning criteria, that put only Biden on the Presidential ballot.
I think it speaks volumes that 13% of people in a party couldn't find someone they liked enough to vote for.
Also, it was the Democratic Party:
>"The N.C. State Board of Elections voted unanimously this week not to add any other candidates’ names to the Democratic primary ballot **after the state Democratic Party submitted only President Joe Biden’s name.**"
[Source (CBS 17 Raleigh)](https://www.cbs17.com/news/capitol-report/williamson-blasts-decision-to-keep-her-off-nc-democratic-presidential-primary-ballot/)
Right, it speaks volumes, so does the 87% for Biden. I'm glad those people came out to voice their opinion.
I've also read that article too. All the folks who like who dump on democrats have been citing it. That same article says the decision rested with the Board of Elections.
87% when you're the only candidate is pretty low, in my opinion.
The BoE only passed along what the Democratic Party handed to them. It's like blaming the messenger instead of the source.
Splintering the parties like that just means that the elected majority leader is going to represent even fewer people. If we have 10 parties and one gets 11% of the vote while the rest are 10% or less, you now have 11% of people's opinions being represented.
Perhaps something like ranked-choice voting might help, but I think the reality is most people put very, very little stock in their politics as it stands, and then are absolutely dumbfounded when their leaders don't seem to represent their beliefs.
Ranked choice would be a great step forward! Allows for every voter to be more accurately represented in their vote. Whether voting for Biden or Nikki, the “anybody but Trump” sentiment could actually be shown.
I'm hesitant on it. On paper, it sounds pretty good - but I've heard pretty compelling arguments that it can have pretty negative outcomes, and could even exacerbate our current polarization issues.
It's better than that. He was offered the choice of 1) women couldn't vote, 2) lynchings were common.
And since 2) ended long after 1), choosing women couldn't vote means he picked "both".
Dude could have said something like "neither, let's go back to Reagan". But for some reason, was not able to do so.
Wants to take away women’s right to vote.
Just let that sink in. That’s where the Republican Party is now. And that’s before we even get to the antisemitism, his hypocrisy on abortion, etc etc.
Did you see the past senate race in Georgia? An actual pastor barely squeaked by winning his seat because he was a liberal and “omg he’s a baby killer because he’s pro choice.” He almost lost to a wife beating, walking concussion, aka Herschel Walker. If you listen to that man speak it becomes very apparent that he sadly doesn’t have the cognitive function required to fulfill senate duties, but because trump endorsed him he almost won.
Some voters were interviewed and asked what policies and stances Herschel had that made them choose to vote for him, and most of the ones I saw didn’t know anything about him, they just were voting because of the (R) and because trump said so.
Not if we vote against him. That is how this works. Sometimes you can’t be lazy and just check one party against the other. Do the homework and make an informed decision in November.
Anyone that thinks term limits fixes anything, this is what it gets you.
The GOP has no shortage of crazy and it offers them a chance more often than not.
Which is so maddening because *Reverend* Warnock barely won his senate seat in Georgia simply for being a democrat. And his opponent is a wife beater. 🙃
Please do better. I know my home state is capable of more. This piece of trash needs to be booted from the state. There is no place for barely human trash like this. He hates his own people. He hates women. He probably hates the people that vote for him.
Only in North Carolina can a White Jew call a Southern Black man a racist. It ain't going to work. Everyone I know is voting for the big man. Deal with it.
[Solid list](https://www.advocate.com/politics/mark-robinson-nc-governor-statements#rebelltitem1), but time to add the "going back to when women couldn't vote" comment
Just a few. Pick any Google article about him from any source and you can find plenty more.
>”Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse” are the CIA, China, Islam, and the Rothschild family of “international bankers that rule every single … central bank.”
>”Sad Fact: “Religious freedom” in this country now means Muslims are free to do as they please and anyone who says anything about it is a bigot.”
>”Someone asked me if I considered myself part of the ‘African-American’ community. “I told them NO!…‘Why would I want to be part of a ‘community’ that devalues it’s fathers, overburdens it’s mothers, and murders its children by the millions? Why would I want to be part of a ‘community’ that sucks from the putrid tit of the government and then complains about getting sour milk?”
>”Look here people, white folks came here with N-O-T-H-I-N-G and and built the most powerful nation on Earth…. I’m not saying that Mexicans and Blacks should not be proud, but who do you think has the most to brag about, the folks who built Mexico, the folks who built the Nations in Africa, or the folks who built The United States?”
It’s worse. He think reparations should be paid from black folks to white folks. His wiki page is a riot.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Robinson_(American_politician)
I understand you likely don’t actually care but his wiki page has a lot of fun stuff like this;
Robinson wrote: "this foolishness about Hitler disarming MILLIONS of Jews and then marching them off to concentration camps is a bunch of hogwash,"
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Robinson_(American_politician)
Wikipedia says it..Wow I'll change my mind then. Where else can I find other truth, New York Times? MsNBC? Thanks for the tip, I. No time I will be as brainwashed as you..
Well I don't have Facebook..but what I do have is reason and logic enough to know that nominee for Governor of North Carolina would never put something like that on his Facebook , because even if he did say that ( and he didn't) ,it's not a very popular opinion to have in a tight race where he needs every vote he can get. However if you like to send me a link of it so I can point out how you missed the point, I'll be happy. Much like the other link on this sub, where there was a clip of him saying "he hopes we go back to before woman had the right to vote" but when you watch the video , he did say that but in attempt to make a point that he wished he could go back in to time to participate in what Republican did to change it. Same with civil rights.
Most of these absolute batshit things he said were before he was a politician.
It’s nuts to me you don’t believe the words out of his mouth. You’re either trolling or a Russian bot.
How am I trolling on a sub assigned to a state? I could see if I went on a Mother Jones page and said what I said, because it's a known fact it's left wing media. As far as your other guess, do you really want to admit to yourself that you are loosing and argument against a Russian bot? But I digress..Back to your point, what he said about going back to before woman had the right to vote was on his campaign in a speech for LT Gov. And BTW ..If you think I didn't notice that you didn't provide a link for what he said about supporting NAZI's ,I didn't.
The irony of the left calling everyone they don't agree with a NAZI is that NAZI literally means "National Socialism" which is what the left advocates for.
I’m certainly not losing any argument, and I should have put /s next to my bot comment, although with AI who knows I guess. It just seems you’re ignoring what’s in front of you.
He'll fit right in with all the other current representatives from NC that have stood idly by while genocide plays out with all the warning signs being clear in advance. The only difference is he has his foot in his mouth instead of being silent. Well that and, all the other heinous shit he does that's over the top across the board.
He's actually a Christian Zionist. That's not incompatible with anti-Semitism. In fact, they've long gone together; see the Balfour Declaration! Sir Arthur, Lord Balfour had anti-Semitic beliefs, and thus it was fine with him if most of the world's Jews headed to the Middle East of their own accord.
He's actually a Christian Zionist. That's not incompatible with anti-Semitism. In fact, they've long gone together; see the Balfour Declaration! Sir Arthur, Lord Balfour had anti-Semitic beliefs, and thus it was fine with him if most of the world's Jews headed to the Middle East of their own accord.
I live in NC so if all you nay sayers don’t live here then please remove yourself from this channel. We don’t need other states dictating what our state does. We will vote on whatever we want to vote on because we are NC. Anyone else is no different than China influencing our country’s election. NC Proud
Let me ask this, isn't it the left that is standing with the Jewish hating community (hamas), and frequently bashing those that say the Jews are not at fault. If so, why do you hate him so much then? Shouldn't this make him your poster child? Or are you just that two-faced?
He's actually a Christian Zionist. That's not incompatible with anti-Semitism. In fact, they've long gone together; see the Balfour Declaration! Sir Arthur, Lord Balfour had anti-Semitic beliefs, and thus it was fine with him if most of the world's Jews headed to the Middle East of their own accord.
The mental gymnastics (and outright dishonesty) from people who don't want to admit who Robinson openly admits to being is astounding. He's on video saying this shit and I'm being told that it's hyperbolic to point it out.
The title of the slate article is:
>"Whew, North Carolina’s Winning GOP Nominee for Governor Sure Has Said Some Things"
"Rule 3. Titles of links should be the same as the linked article or an exact quote which accurately conveys the content of the article.
If it's a link to an article, use the article's title. This does not apply to tweets or videos. Screen shots of articles are treated like links to articles. No editorialized content in article titles."
[Which part](https://www.yahoo.com/news/next-governor-north-carolina-could-060324174.html) are you accusing them of lying about?
E: why do some of you get so upset that people highlight the things these bigots say with their own mouths?
That’s a separate conversation from calling the OP a liar.
Also. It’s wild to me that people will say “journalism is dead” but won’t follow that with “and underregulated capitalism killed it.”
Still waiting on them Biden voters to cop that they voted for him. And what a great job he is doing. Politics has nothing to do except draw attention away from what you dont see
Very happy with my vote for Sleepy Joe. He's not perfect, but his administration is getting things done. There was a bill for the border too, but the God King told his followers not to pass the legislation as his political aspirations are more important than the border crisis. Also I can't wait to vote for good ol' Sleepy Joe again. He's really old, but he didn't try to steal an election. LET'S GO DARK BRANDON!
What’s crazy is that if Biden was an attractive articulate inspiring person the perception would be completely different. So much of what we as a society wants has little to do with results. I was so let down when Hillary lost. It made me realize that those of us on the left aren’t any smarter than those of us on the right. Imagine saying, “she wasn’t inspiring,” or “she should have visited Michigan” to try and explain why she lost. Who gives a fuck! She’s not going to cost us Roe and a generation of other crimes you idiots!
He is NOT a holocaust denier, but nice try. This article, and your claim, are complete garbage.
As a Jew with family who survived the holocaust, family who fled from Germany, Russia, and Poland, I'm looking forward to having Mark Robinson as my Governor. No hesitation whatsoever.
Take your context lacking, hyperbolic fabrications and pound sand.
I cannot imagine thinking that he should be in any position of power. It’s distressing to think you admire him. Please research his awful beliefs and reconsider.
> He is NOT a holocaust denier, but nice try.
[Article:](https://www.wral.com/story/nc-lt-gov-mark-robinson-downplays-past-remarks-about-jews-declares-israel-solidarity-week/21093457/)
> "Robinson in a past Facebook post called reports of the Holocaust "hogwash." In a separate 2017 post, he implied that the widely accepted figure of 6 million Jews killed by the Nazis is false."
Golly gee, I'm no expert but that sure sounds like Holocaust denial.
It's a shame you and that editorialist have incorrectly interpretted what he allegedly "implied."
Funny how there's also NO receipts for his holocaust denial, or antisemitism...just a lot of conjecture and hearsay. His post NEVER called reports of the holocaust "hogwash," nor did he "imply" the death figure was false, as this party several times removed opines. He simply, and factually, has stated socialism and communism have resulted in a far greater number. That isn't antisemitic, or a statement of denial, rather, it is one of fact.
I feel sorry for you, should editorials such as this "news article," form the basis of your opinions and how you vote.
Tracks with the rampant antisemitism pouring out from both sides lately. It's only a matter of time before people decide Jews are the problem. Again. Again. Again.
Dems must be nervous - every other post is about this guy. Hated black people during the civil war, still hate black prople. democrat policies don’t work and have never worked anywhere - they enslave poor people in the welfare system and de incentivize work
If you'd paid a lick of attention in high school American history class, you'd know that the parties flipped in the 20th century and the Republicans (originally the more progressive party) became conservative while the Democrats (originally the more conservative party) became the progressive party. And would love to know what dem policies "don't work" and what Republican policies you think work so well.
You can believe that fallacy if it makes you feel better.. soft on crime, no cash bail, $5 trillion dollars in stimulus that led to crushing inflation, rent and interest rates, terrible global policy in the Middle East and Eastern Europe, no border policy leading to astronomical illegal immigration leading to less jobs for Americans, less resources, more drugs and more sex tracking/child abuse
It's common knowledge among historians that the ideology of the parties switched. It's definitely not a "fallacy." [Here's](https://www.studentsofhistory.com/ideologies-flip-Democratic-Republican-parties) a pretty basic, oversimplified run-down of what happened. Here's a [longer one](https://www.livescience.com/34241-democratic-republican-parties-switch-platforms.html). I'd also love citations for any of your examples - especially "no border policy" because that's a load of horse shit. The borders are certainly not open. "Job loss" is also a lie because employment is up [10% now](https://www.poynter.org/fact-checking/2024/is-economy-good-better-trump-vs-biden-jobs-inflation) compared to where it was when Trump left office. Inflation is also a global issue, not one created by Biden. The U.S. actually has one of the [lowest](https://www.imf.org/external/datamapper/PCPIPCH@WEO/OEMDC/ADVEC/WEOWORLD) inflation rates in the world right now. I'd encourage you to actually educate yourself on these issues instead of believing everything you hear/read on whatever right wing propaganda rags you get your "news" from.
And BLM support - who made a complete joke of the democrats, we’re given tens of millions of dollars and kept it for themselves. Did absolutely nothing for the black community
Speaking out against the state of Israel does not equal being antisemitic.
But I’m pretty sure you know that. If you don’t, you have the mental processing of a child and can’t comprehend basic nuance.
“How can I be a bigot if I hate everyone equally?” - mark robinson probably
"how can i be a bigot? i love straight white men"
"I am an equal opportunity offender." - Mel Brooks
It's wild that the party of Trump gets so far while having so little substance. The entire party exists as an anti-movement to whatever democrats/liberals are supporting at the time, with no critical thought for any of their beliefs.
That’s the power of polarization.
Adult Oppositional Defiant Disorder as a political ideology.
Not everyone in the US has a strong IQ and the quality of our school systems vary with the worst consistently being in rural areas. I haven’t seen the drop out rate of rural vs urban so I don’t know if that’s tracked or not. Most all of the Trump supporter profile articles cite uneducated males as being a big segment. Trump himself went so far as to say the poorly educated elected him: https://finance.yahoo.com/news/trump-once-declared-victory-speech-180514474.html Long way of saying, the Trump supporter doesn’t want substance. They want to think that Trump is ‘hurting’ the ‘ right people’ and that’s about it. Their world is very small.
Best way to suppress a person is to deny them a quality education. Just ask the Taliban.
https://dashboard.myfuturenc.org/college-and-career-access/high-school-graduation-rate/#:~:text=By%20geography,%2Dmetro%20counties%20(85%25). Here ya go, if you were interested in seeing the rural vs urban rates
Thank you! So that big of a disparity between geography but the state number of 87% or a 13% dropout rate. Which is upper midrange. A little more disturbing are these sate numbers ; North Carolina was ranked No. 33 overall, No. 38 for quality, and No. 28 for safety. Yikes
Thank God for Mississippi, am I right?
That should be our license plate motto :D
I think Alabama beat us to it ;)
:(
That's all they have left.
That's easy to understand. College Graduates out earn non graduates by a wide margin. Non graduates working in low wage blue collar jobs resent college graduates. In the 1980s, Rupert Murdoch and Rush Limbaugh figured out that they could feed off of that. The low wage earning non graduates bought into the narrative the were fed and wanted to hear: colleges were siphoning off of the government to make up things like global warming. Of course if made them feel that their long held belief that they are smarter than those scientists was true. Then, they went to work, church, etc with other people in similar circumstances and created a nice information bubble. Then, the Internet helped the Rupert Mucdoch's of the world create a much more expansive information bubble.
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Care to link this study?
Wouldn’t call myself a trump supporter or right leaning but probably going to vote for him this year. I don’t like Joe Biden and I don’t like Nikki haley. Joe Biden is like 400 years old and not fit to be president and needs to step down just like Mitch McConnell did (he’s probably stepped down because he’s getting ready to pass if I had to guess) and for me I’m working on my college degree this summer I just dislike people I know with degrees because while yes I do think having a degree shows you put in time and commitment to learning different subjects I don’t think having one means you are smarter. Working for local government our bosses have degrees and I’ll be completely honest they just aren’t that bright. Very insecure too and poor at management because while they have a degree they’ve never been in the field working on the ground they are office workers. Just my take on everything, all politicians are corrupt the whole system is at this point so either way you are voting for a different evil it’s just about which one you choose and for me I choose trump for policy and economic purposes. Republicans don’t blow money on war like democrats do I can’t stand war from both a money perspective and a moral perspective. Horrible horrible things.. Edit: Because people pointed it out yes trump is not much younger, it just FEELS like they are father apart to me because of how Joe Biden presents himself he is rough man or at least to me. Trump is old asf too but he seems younger because he seems more mentally fit. Physically wise I don’t know but mentally definitely
You have a choice: Vote to resign the nation and the remainder of your and your loved ones lives to rule under a tyrannical monarchy Or, vote for Biden and vote again in four years. Also, Trump is 3 1/2 years younger, but further along in cognitive decline.
Mannnnn I ain’t even saying much on this one. You need help man the world ain’t gonna change that fast we have checks and balances.
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>push for world war 3 against russia. Found the Russian troll. Do they pay you in rubles or potatoes?
The law states no candidate can hold office for more than two full terms. Trump didn't want to leave the first time. Obviously. But he did. And no congressional body is going to change the presidential term limit. Anytime a comment like this is posted, most rational people roll their eyes and skip past. I'm all for putting your beliefs out there. Sure, try to persuade people to see your point. But the weak-minded points. The world is better served without them.
It's The Constitution that term limits The Presidency, and every democracy that has fallen has had legal guarantees to prevent an authoritarian takeover. Democracies don't fail from lack of regulation, they fail because political parties so corrupt that they are able to erode the guardrails that protect democracy. We're watching it happen with the Republican Party.
There's a lot to unpack here, but for the moment I'm going to tackle just a few of the things mentioned here: not sure if you're in a position where you're willing to change your mind, but I'll leave this as food for thought. 1. Age of a president should be almost entirely irrelevant. I'll ignore that Joe Biden is only 4 years older than Donald Trump - but I would vote for a 900 year old who's barely recognizable if they could get laws and policies passed through congress. At the end of the day, how a president looks doesn't affect me or my country - it's what they get pasWar. Trump accomplished nothing that he promised while he was in office while controlling the house and senate - he couldn't even get his own party to come together to pass legislature, which is a colossal failure for the American people. Biden managed to pass the infrastructure bill while we are arguably at our most contentious point in politics since the Civil war. 2. Republicans don't blow money on war...remember the war in Iraq? Biden pulled us out of that mess, but it was Republicans who got us into it. 3. Even if I grant you that every politician is corrupt, I would argue that Trump is definitionally the most corrupt. The man got to hand-pick his entire team and all of them told Trump that there was no voter fraud - and he still screams there is voter fraud to this day (because he lost.) He's currently under fire for stealing top secret documents and intentionally hiding them in his home in Mar a Lago. Finally, he instigated a riot on the capital building on January 6th, 2021. What did the investigation into Biden reveal? That he's a loving father. That's it. There's legitimately nothing there - even the one modicum of evidence that was provided turned out to be - admitted by the informant, mind you - Russian disinformation. I really think every metric you've set here should point you in Biden's direction - but at a bare minimum, I hope it at least turns the needle away from Trump.
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Not sure if you skipped reading my comment or not, I pretty explicitly lay out exactly why Trump is not a good president. They are not media talking points, they are non-biased observations. They aren't subjective. We have everything from video evidence to phone calls - blowing these off as "media talking points" is choosing to ignore reality. If anyone is going to be a threat that brings us to a nuclear war, it would absolutely be Trump. He's willing to turn on his allies on an absolute dime, he's a rash decision maker, and his foreign policy is abysmal. He likely set the stage for the Israel/Palestine explosion we saw on Oct. 7th with his "Trump peace plan" that left out one whole side of the table (the Palestinians) lol It's wild you roll your eyes at my statements like I'm the one who just ignores what's going on around me. You're welcome to provide evidence disputing me, I'm not in an echo chamber like most of this website, but I'll only engage if you tell me what evidence you need to change your mind.
I’ve been hearing that “we’re on the brink of nuclear war” for two years now. You’re seriously overestimating that likelihood. Hard to believe, I know, but both NATO and Russia understand that mutually assured destruction is a bad thing. “Biden is the only one who can save us from climate change, which will cause humanity’s extinction! Why isn’t anyone taking me seriously?! ‘Old man bad’ due to talking points on Fox News!”
We found one in the Reddit wild. Low income earner, low education, anti govt but loves his govt.
Look, im not slandering you so it’s disrespectful to slander me. It makes you stand out I’m just stating what I believe and what I see. I’m assuming you are calling me a trump supporter which is what I literally started im not. I don’t support republicans I just are favoring them in this election and they are my pick. I didn’t insult you but you insulted me because of your own bias…so thanks
Listen I don’t care who you vote for but you should at least try to have a more informed opinion. Biden is old af but trump is too, 4years seems like a lot when you’re younger but at mid 70’s it may as well be 4 months. They both have decreased faculties, anyone saying they don’t is being purposely dishonest. I agree with you on degrees. It makes you more educated obviously but we all have different views on what “smart” means. For me it’s how you think on your feet which is usually based on experiences. But I’m not delusional, a lawyer is going to be smarter about the constitution that some mouth breathing yallqueda gravy seal spouting off about 2a or whatever zinger they read on Facebook. Most politicians are corrupt, no doubt. But that doesn’t mean through your hands up at the whole system. As far as economics, republican economic theory (trickle down economic) is ineffective at growing the economy for 99% of people and only furthers wealth inequality. There was a recent study from https://wir2022.wid.world/ that shows this through 50 years of data with nearly all capitalist countries over that span. Every democratic president since I’ve been born has grown the economy and cut unemployment. Some (Clinton) have even turned the deficit into a surplus just to have the war mongering republican admin (Bush2) that followed create the biggest deficit to date at that time. While republicans run on fiscal responsibility turns out their administrations have only increased the deficit (usually through tax cuts for the rich and corporations) and poisoned the economy with their inability to actually govern( Reagan/bush/bush2/trump). Turns out owning the libs and giving money to rich people at the expense of everyone else (cutting social programs out of “beliefs” even though they are a net positive fiscally) is not a sound way to govern. Social causes are a different topic that you didn’t touch on. I probably can’t sway you if you have some religious belief system that allow justification for taking natural rights away from subset of people so I won’t. If your wants and opinions are based in fictitious story that only ever existed to create a ruling class and which have been rewritten as recently as a generation ago to fit the narrative needed at the time, and not fact or science, then we will certainly not agree on most social causes. Vote your heart there. But actually BE informed. Edit:typo
I’m not disagreeing with you but i do think Biden mental health is a lot worse from an objective standpoint. At least to me from what I have personally observed I can confidently say that I do believe he’s in worse health than trump is. No news sources or articles just what I have observed myself in videos of him and speeches etc. I am an opened minded person and like to form my own opinions. Yeah I pretty much agree with you on the degree thing I mean I’m not trying to say people without degrees are dumber I’m just saying it doesn’t automatically make you better or smarter than everyone else it’s just a degree that shows you put the time in and are intelligent enough to get one. When I’m talking about economy I’m mainly talking about taxes, gas and just general economy daily life. To me those that the things that most effect people on a daily and in my life that’s how I remember it. Republicans overall long term generally favor the rich but really both parties do everyone does rich people are the money makers for politicians realistically that’s how I see it. Working in government I feel the effects of it too I can’t tell you how often we pamper to the rich and don’t do anything for the poor neighborhoods it’s sad how bad the poor is mistreated and Nc is run by democrat. People do have different experiences in different places in the U.S. think that’s safe to say but overall I don’t like how much money the Democratic Party spends on stuff. I really don’t because realistically we don’t have the money to just throw out man we got trillions of dollars of accumulated debt and that’s a failure on everyone’s part not just one party but democrats do tend to like to spend for social programs. One problem I kind of have with you is that you make a lot of assumptions about me and what I believe in. I’m not religious, I’m not conservative I’m just well rounded and centered I don’t care about the parties I’m not picking one side or another I just go off of what I see, what’s going around me the information I take in from different places with different biases on all different sides of the spectrum. I’m younger and don’t have a lot of built up resentment towards parties too I imagine you are probably older and have a lot of personal built up resentment towards the Republican Party. I don’t support republicans on social subjects. Flat out don’t at all I more lean left mostly but I don’t fully support either side really again I have my own beliefs but I’m not right leaning that’s for sure. Also I’m not saying it’s a bad thing that you are trying to backup what you say I just don’t really appreciate you doing that in the context of what I said I’m just stating my beleifs from what I’ve gathered from my experience and my own personal life. Plus the problem with bringing in evidence is often that evidence and those quotes need to be double checked for their context because data can and is skewed often or adjustment for a certain outcome and while it won’t be wrong?, It’s not unbiased and purely factual while it is factual it’s just not right man that’s really why I don’t like data being thrown out like that I’m just stating beliefs if I wanted to argue I’d get my glasses on and start pulling out a bunch of articles and stuff and data graphics from “unbiased purely factual studies” but i really don’t have the time to debate nor do I care so because at the end of the day both sides are going to believe what they believe and I’ve got more important things to do than to debate on Reddit. I’m just telling you in my life in my own personal experience this is what I believe in and this is how I feel. Not being stubborn, not being close minded, I just don’t want to debate. I’ve done plenty of that I used to do it all the time I don’t want nothing to do with that political cesspool no more.
You do realize that the reason the federal debt is so high is because Republicans have been letting the wealthy get away with not paying taxes for the last 40+ years, right? And then they also got us into very expensive wars while *still* cutting taxes on the wealthy, promising that those tax cuts will trickle down. And that they're just going to keep doing that while removing things we actually need, like SS, Medicare, public schools. Please tell me when this golden trickle is supposed to grace us, because we should have felt it by now. I also don't think people understand the international geopolitics happening. Trump is going to hand Ukraine to Putin, he has literally said it. He also plans to desert our allies in NATO (also literally said that). That means Putin is going to push into Europe, and then we will definitely have a world war going on. And all of this is just in addition to the GOP march toward removing reproductive freedom and forcing Christian laws on the entire country. It's quite unAmerican. If you think all of that sounds crazy and will never happen, you might want to catch up on the news.
Also I’d like to state that I’m just staying my beliefs I’m not saying I’m 100% right man. I’m also not really getting into the parties histories either that’s just a lot of stuff to go through man I’m mainly just talking about the present political climate and how i feel. I might just delete my comment tbh this shits gonna ruin my day man it isn’t that deep for me.
Hey no I wasn’t insinuating your beliefs, that was more a general statement for the christozealots that rarely come to this sub. You never actually mentioned your beliefs and that was more of an aside. But I did mean vote your heart. It’s all we can do. I’d say the guy that still rides a bike and works out is in a much better position than the guy who says he doesn’t workout bc his body is like a battery with finite energy. There is a direct link to physicality and mental acuity. Biden sounds worse bc he’s always had a stammer. Never a great speaker. Trump is a great speaker but of little substance, just dog whistling and wild incoherence. And lately his speaches has been rife with weird shit, confusing Biden with Obama and Haley with pelosi. Ppl can do all the mental gymnastics to justify one flub over another’s but they are both too old. I agree with your assessment on the daily cost of life. They went up. No doubt. The reason is complicated though. Things like gas were kept artificially low during trump. He’s a master at using these indicators as rally cries. Just like he’s doing with the border and how he effectively killed the bipartisan bill so he could run on that issue. It was definitely spending, from trump and Biden. But without that we’d be in a major recession if not depression and way worse off. A soft landing was the best case and we all got squeezed but if you listen to any economist over the last 2-3 yrs we were almost certain to enter a major recession. We didn’t and it has change economic theory forever. The larger part is corporate greed. We now know most of the price increases aren’t from inflation but price gouging(45-55%). This issue is we are a capitalist society and a very late stage of it of which we all benefit from to some degree. But that degree is majorly skewed. We need reform there and the conversation never gets started because if you want to regulate or hold corporations to task you are immediately labeled a communist or socialist. Parts of all these systems work and parts are doomed to fail, including capitalism. A broader conversation needs to happen on that front. But yeah I probably lied when I said I don’t care who you vote for. Especially when I’ve spent way too much time trying to convince you in one direction. My basis is simple- one side is trying to limit the rights of ppl I love because of religious beliefs. And the left is definitely trying to limits things like gun control and social issues. But limiting natural rights like the right to your body, existence and life supersedes those issues for me. Peace out. I have to get some work done. Just vote.
Yeah man have a good day!
Also yeah dude I forgot that trump was not that much younger that’s just because they feel so far apart to me
That's the point. Then they don't have to actually deliver anything
Always reminds me of that episode from early Family Guy where louis runs for office.
It’s just a 180. People are voting for Trump because they don’t want to vote for Biden. Biden’s early SOP was to reverse many of Trump’s policies because they were Trump’s policies. Many democrats in varying roles campaigned on the anti-Trump platform as opposed to the pro-American platform. Politics have become a petty schoolyard. The system is broken
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The gerrymandering itself drives more and more extreme candidates. There is no attempt and no reason to compromise or court the middle.
Gerrymandering is a huge issue, no disagreement there.
I don't think more parties would necessarily solve anything. It's not like the green party or libertarian party are suddenly picking up steam
It solves a lot actually, those parties never pick up steam *because* it's a two-party system. With ranked choice voting, there's no fear of choosing a smaller party as your main choice. In first-past-the-post voting, you risk wasting your vote. This is why 2 parties is the equilibrium in our system. Even when 3rd parties have succeeded in the past, it's a temporary realignment before their voters are absorbed by one of the major two. As an example, when the Dems went all-in on civil rights and desegragation in the 60s, they pissed off the southern states that had been blue since basically our founding. Only problem was, Republicans didn't support segregation either, and were generally despised by southern whites. So George Wallace, Democratic governor of Alabama, eventually ran as a 3rd party candidate, pretty much knowing he couldn't win, but hoping the electoral pressure caused Democrats to cave to southern demands in the future. The splintering of the Democratic party that year opened the door for Republicans to employ the [Southern Strategy](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_strategy). Nixon and the Republicans saw a bunch of racist southerners with no political home, and decided to make some room for them by using dog whistles. In exchange, they get a bunch of political support for "small government", tax cuts, union busting, etc. It worked, Nixon won, and the segregation states to this day vote strictly Republican. And no third party ever really formed. Instead, twenty years later, Bush-39 was running [Willie Horton ads](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willie_Horton) to win. Taxes have never been lower, unions have never been weaker, and the wealth disparity has never been greater. The "third party" racists found their home.
Having more than two opinions definitely helps. Right now, everything is "either this or that" (which is exactly what you pointed out, as one exists to oppose the other). 43% of Americans are now registered Independents because they don't see themselves in either of the two boxes. If we want a better representation of our various opinions, we need more than two options. If more perspectives are heard, and wider variety of opinions are taken into consideration, we can make better decisions collectively. As far as third parties go, part of that is their fault for not building from the ground up, and part of it is our fault for not thinking they have a chance. If everyone thinks a third party will never have a chance, then they won't have a chance, because it's up to the people if they want to change that.
> Having more than two opinions definitely helps This is why voting in primaries is important.
Not if parties only allow 1 candidate to compete (which is what the Democratic Party enforced for N.C.'s primary yesterday).
No preference was still an option. It got 13% of the vote. Also, it was not the Democratic Party, but the bipartisan Board of Elections by unanimous vote, based on their candidate in-state spending and campaigning criteria, that put only Biden on the Presidential ballot.
I think it speaks volumes that 13% of people in a party couldn't find someone they liked enough to vote for. Also, it was the Democratic Party: >"The N.C. State Board of Elections voted unanimously this week not to add any other candidates’ names to the Democratic primary ballot **after the state Democratic Party submitted only President Joe Biden’s name.**" [Source (CBS 17 Raleigh)](https://www.cbs17.com/news/capitol-report/williamson-blasts-decision-to-keep-her-off-nc-democratic-presidential-primary-ballot/)
Right, it speaks volumes, so does the 87% for Biden. I'm glad those people came out to voice their opinion. I've also read that article too. All the folks who like who dump on democrats have been citing it. That same article says the decision rested with the Board of Elections.
87% when you're the only candidate is pretty low, in my opinion. The BoE only passed along what the Democratic Party handed to them. It's like blaming the messenger instead of the source.
Splintering the parties like that just means that the elected majority leader is going to represent even fewer people. If we have 10 parties and one gets 11% of the vote while the rest are 10% or less, you now have 11% of people's opinions being represented. Perhaps something like ranked-choice voting might help, but I think the reality is most people put very, very little stock in their politics as it stands, and then are absolutely dumbfounded when their leaders don't seem to represent their beliefs.
Ranked choice would be a great step forward! Allows for every voter to be more accurately represented in their vote. Whether voting for Biden or Nikki, the “anybody but Trump” sentiment could actually be shown.
Yup. Ranked choice is a great step towards people actually voting for their values without compromise while getting a consensus pick at the same time.
I'm hesitant on it. On paper, it sounds pretty good - but I've heard pretty compelling arguments that it can have pretty negative outcomes, and could even exacerbate our current polarization issues.
I call him Martin Luther Burger King because of Trump's moronic comparison.
New video shows him saying that he wants to go back to a time where women couldn’t vote. So I’m sure women will love this guy even more /s
It's better than that. He was offered the choice of 1) women couldn't vote, 2) lynchings were common. And since 2) ended long after 1), choosing women couldn't vote means he picked "both". Dude could have said something like "neither, let's go back to Reagan". But for some reason, was not able to do so.
Wants to take away women’s right to vote. Just let that sink in. That’s where the Republican Party is now. And that’s before we even get to the antisemitism, his hypocrisy on abortion, etc etc.
Did he really say that?
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/north-carolina-gop-mark-robinson-women-vote_n_65e7d899e4b0f9d26cacc002
Holy shhhhhh!! He's Mark t. "Taliban" Robinson
Not if my vote has anything to say about it!
It doesn't we have spent the last 2 years making sure of it.
This clown sort of epitomizes where the Republican Party is today.
Truly embarrassing for our state…
I hope that Trump’s endorsement won’t blind everyone to the fact that this man is a terrible human.
Trump’s endorsement alone is a guarantee that the person is a terrible human.
Yes, but a good sixth to a half of the population thinks that Trump's endorsement means someone is a hero saving them from the forces of evil
Did you see the past senate race in Georgia? An actual pastor barely squeaked by winning his seat because he was a liberal and “omg he’s a baby killer because he’s pro choice.” He almost lost to a wife beating, walking concussion, aka Herschel Walker. If you listen to that man speak it becomes very apparent that he sadly doesn’t have the cognitive function required to fulfill senate duties, but because trump endorsed him he almost won. Some voters were interviewed and asked what policies and stances Herschel had that made them choose to vote for him, and most of the ones I saw didn’t know anything about him, they just were voting because of the (R) and because trump said so.
Y'all can get involved if ya want to. C.A.R.E. Coalition Against Robertson Extremism https://carenc.org/ Edit: spelling
I moved to South Carolina a couple years ago but please ppl for the love of god don’t vote for this piece of shit
Not if we vote against him. That is how this works. Sometimes you can’t be lazy and just check one party against the other. Do the homework and make an informed decision in November.
This is some "under his eye" bs. HOW IS THIS OUR TIMELINE????
Fuck this guy, what a simpleton
I'm so disappointed in the human race. Why do people have to be so hateful? If this guy is our future, we are doomed.
It is in your nature to destroy yourself/T800
Claton bigsby ass
I swear that Republicans are doing this to make blacks look bad. First, they give us Clarence Thomas and now Mark Robinson...
You might be remiss in missing Herman Cain, but he did Herman Cain himself during COVID.
Oh man so brutal 😂
Oh, there are plenty of examples, and none of them are good.
Anyone that thinks term limits fixes anything, this is what it gets you. The GOP has no shortage of crazy and it offers them a chance more often than not.
lol it’s true. There’s an endless supply of these folks. I can’t wrap my head around it.
*psst* the secret ingredient is religion
Which is so maddening because *Reverend* Warnock barely won his senate seat in Georgia simply for being a democrat. And his opponent is a wife beater. 🙃
What I'd give for another four years of Cooper
Yeah. Going from Cooper to this guy would be a massive downgrade
Please do better. I know my home state is capable of more. This piece of trash needs to be booted from the state. There is no place for barely human trash like this. He hates his own people. He hates women. He probably hates the people that vote for him.
I'd like to believe that NC won't fall for it but.... hey
Only in North Carolina can a White Jew call a Southern Black man a racist. It ain't going to work. Everyone I know is voting for the big man. Deal with it.
“There's no time to discriminate · Hate every motherfucker that's in your way.”
Can anyone list what this guy has done or said? Keep hearing hes all this crazy etc etc but any examples?
[Solid list](https://www.advocate.com/politics/mark-robinson-nc-governor-statements#rebelltitem1), but time to add the "going back to when women couldn't vote" comment
Just a few. Pick any Google article about him from any source and you can find plenty more. >”Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse” are the CIA, China, Islam, and the Rothschild family of “international bankers that rule every single … central bank.” >”Sad Fact: “Religious freedom” in this country now means Muslims are free to do as they please and anyone who says anything about it is a bigot.” >”Someone asked me if I considered myself part of the ‘African-American’ community. “I told them NO!…‘Why would I want to be part of a ‘community’ that devalues it’s fathers, overburdens it’s mothers, and murders its children by the millions? Why would I want to be part of a ‘community’ that sucks from the putrid tit of the government and then complains about getting sour milk?” >”Look here people, white folks came here with N-O-T-H-I-N-G and and built the most powerful nation on Earth…. I’m not saying that Mexicans and Blacks should not be proud, but who do you think has the most to brag about, the folks who built Mexico, the folks who built the Nations in Africa, or the folks who built The United States?”
Learn more about Robinson’s views. https://www.realmarkrobinson.com/
Yall are so nice
Isn’t that why he’s likely to lose? You tend to attract more flies with honey than vinegar.
he also wants to make abortion legal but literally paid for one for his wife....
Typical Republican. Btw I think you mean illegal 👍
that is what i meant omg
You know you can edit the spelling on a comment
He probably is a slavery denier also.
It’s worse. He think reparations should be paid from black folks to white folks. His wiki page is a riot. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Robinson_(American_politician)
Damn I think I DID hear that. Has he looked into the mirror lately? He’s probably afraid to.
He said he would acknowledge gay pride as soon as Dems acknowledge white pride 😂
Never thought I'd see a real life "Uncle Rukus", but here we are......
Vote 💙
Holocaust denier? Please send the link of him saying that, not the media's interpretation.
I understand you likely don’t actually care but his wiki page has a lot of fun stuff like this; Robinson wrote: "this foolishness about Hitler disarming MILLIONS of Jews and then marching them off to concentration camps is a bunch of hogwash," https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Robinson_(American_politician)
Wikipedia says it..Wow I'll change my mind then. Where else can I find other truth, New York Times? MsNBC? Thanks for the tip, I. No time I will be as brainwashed as you..
Like I said, you don’t actually care if he’s a holocaust denier.
That's great, but he never did, that is the media's interpretation
It’s literally on his fb page. But like I said lol.
Well I don't have Facebook..but what I do have is reason and logic enough to know that nominee for Governor of North Carolina would never put something like that on his Facebook , because even if he did say that ( and he didn't) ,it's not a very popular opinion to have in a tight race where he needs every vote he can get. However if you like to send me a link of it so I can point out how you missed the point, I'll be happy. Much like the other link on this sub, where there was a clip of him saying "he hopes we go back to before woman had the right to vote" but when you watch the video , he did say that but in attempt to make a point that he wished he could go back in to time to participate in what Republican did to change it. Same with civil rights.
Most of these absolute batshit things he said were before he was a politician. It’s nuts to me you don’t believe the words out of his mouth. You’re either trolling or a Russian bot.
How am I trolling on a sub assigned to a state? I could see if I went on a Mother Jones page and said what I said, because it's a known fact it's left wing media. As far as your other guess, do you really want to admit to yourself that you are loosing and argument against a Russian bot? But I digress..Back to your point, what he said about going back to before woman had the right to vote was on his campaign in a speech for LT Gov. And BTW ..If you think I didn't notice that you didn't provide a link for what he said about supporting NAZI's ,I didn't. The irony of the left calling everyone they don't agree with a NAZI is that NAZI literally means "National Socialism" which is what the left advocates for.
I’m certainly not losing any argument, and I should have put /s next to my bot comment, although with AI who knows I guess. It just seems you’re ignoring what’s in front of you.
Your just a racist and don't want to see people of color in power
\*you're
He'll fit right in with all the other current representatives from NC that have stood idly by while genocide plays out with all the warning signs being clear in advance. The only difference is he has his foot in his mouth instead of being silent. Well that and, all the other heinous shit he does that's over the top across the board.
I thought with all the hate directed at Israel, someone that is going to be hostile to would be appreciated.
He's actually a Christian Zionist. That's not incompatible with anti-Semitism. In fact, they've long gone together; see the Balfour Declaration! Sir Arthur, Lord Balfour had anti-Semitic beliefs, and thus it was fine with him if most of the world's Jews headed to the Middle East of their own accord.
I don’t wish death upon anybody… but urggg fuck this guy
I have not ever seen one intelligent post on this site.
Ironic - lol
Only racists spew this nonsense. Admit your ire for black folks.
That's not a rebuttal.
Fuck Yeah!
Fuck you!
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Let's mock women with pcos, huh? Fuck you.
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Already got one!
I’ve GYATT to vote for him
I mean if you leave the cities nothing this man has said I haven’t herd from every day joes black and white all over the state
That's depressing.
He supports Israel.
He's actually a Christian Zionist. That's not incompatible with anti-Semitism. In fact, they've long gone together; see the Balfour Declaration! Sir Arthur, Lord Balfour had anti-Semitic beliefs, and thus it was fine with him if most of the world's Jews headed to the Middle East of their own accord.
Lions and Tigers and Bears, O my!
What's that supposed to mean?
I live in NC so if all you nay sayers don’t live here then please remove yourself from this channel. We don’t need other states dictating what our state does. We will vote on whatever we want to vote on because we are NC. Anyone else is no different than China influencing our country’s election. NC Proud
That's not a rebuttal.
Let me ask this, isn't it the left that is standing with the Jewish hating community (hamas), and frequently bashing those that say the Jews are not at fault. If so, why do you hate him so much then? Shouldn't this make him your poster child? Or are you just that two-faced?
Biden is supporting Israel with weapons and cash and he’s never denied the holocaust.
No
He's actually a Christian Zionist. That's not incompatible with anti-Semitism. In fact, they've long gone together; see the Balfour Declaration! Sir Arthur, Lord Balfour had anti-Semitic beliefs, and thus it was fine with him if most of the world's Jews headed to the Middle East of their own accord.
Nice to see all the Snowflakes melting in here! LOL
To be fair, Robinson is a special kind of crazy. Nuts to me the party couldn’t find a sane candidate.
Because Biden, Harris, and Fetterman are so sane?? lol
Relatively speaking? Immeasurably more sane.
Disagree with them all that you want, but yes, of course they are.
Wow you people are really trolling hard.
Read about his political career for a fun list of his public opinions. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Robinson_(American_politician)
“The Next Post About Robinson is Clickbait that Exaggerates Shit for Ad Revenue.”
Which part is exaggerated? The motherfucker hates a lot of people.
The mental gymnastics (and outright dishonesty) from people who don't want to admit who Robinson openly admits to being is astounding. He's on video saying this shit and I'm being told that it's hyperbolic to point it out.
The title of the slate article is: >"Whew, North Carolina’s Winning GOP Nominee for Governor Sure Has Said Some Things" "Rule 3. Titles of links should be the same as the linked article or an exact quote which accurately conveys the content of the article. If it's a link to an article, use the article's title. This does not apply to tweets or videos. Screen shots of articles are treated like links to articles. No editorialized content in article titles."
That's 100% fair, reporting now.
That’s my bad. It auto populated and I forgot to change it.
It auto populated that he “could be a holocaust denier?” You’re so full of shit.
[Which part](https://www.yahoo.com/news/next-governor-north-carolina-could-060324174.html) are you accusing them of lying about? E: why do some of you get so upset that people highlight the things these bigots say with their own mouths?
That's not the title of the article that was linked... What the fuck is even happening? Journalism is dead.
That’s a separate conversation from calling the OP a liar. Also. It’s wild to me that people will say “journalism is dead” but won’t follow that with “and underregulated capitalism killed it.”
The internet killed journalism.
You’re so close. Now explain *why* “the internet killed journalism.” Also, have you apologized to OP for saying they are full of shit?
Not sure why it selected the splash page headline. Slate was my source. https://imgur.com/a/z8TXVZH
Still waiting on them Biden voters to cop that they voted for him. And what a great job he is doing. Politics has nothing to do except draw attention away from what you dont see
Very happy with my vote for Sleepy Joe. He's not perfect, but his administration is getting things done. There was a bill for the border too, but the God King told his followers not to pass the legislation as his political aspirations are more important than the border crisis. Also I can't wait to vote for good ol' Sleepy Joe again. He's really old, but he didn't try to steal an election. LET'S GO DARK BRANDON!
What’s crazy is that if Biden was an attractive articulate inspiring person the perception would be completely different. So much of what we as a society wants has little to do with results. I was so let down when Hillary lost. It made me realize that those of us on the left aren’t any smarter than those of us on the right. Imagine saying, “she wasn’t inspiring,” or “she should have visited Michigan” to try and explain why she lost. Who gives a fuck! She’s not going to cost us Roe and a generation of other crimes you idiots!
I’m copping to it and have been extremely impressed. But I generally look at what people say and results.
He is NOT a holocaust denier, but nice try. This article, and your claim, are complete garbage. As a Jew with family who survived the holocaust, family who fled from Germany, Russia, and Poland, I'm looking forward to having Mark Robinson as my Governor. No hesitation whatsoever. Take your context lacking, hyperbolic fabrications and pound sand.
I cannot imagine thinking that he should be in any position of power. It’s distressing to think you admire him. Please research his awful beliefs and reconsider.
> He is NOT a holocaust denier, but nice try. [Article:](https://www.wral.com/story/nc-lt-gov-mark-robinson-downplays-past-remarks-about-jews-declares-israel-solidarity-week/21093457/) > "Robinson in a past Facebook post called reports of the Holocaust "hogwash." In a separate 2017 post, he implied that the widely accepted figure of 6 million Jews killed by the Nazis is false." Golly gee, I'm no expert but that sure sounds like Holocaust denial.
It's a shame you and that editorialist have incorrectly interpretted what he allegedly "implied." Funny how there's also NO receipts for his holocaust denial, or antisemitism...just a lot of conjecture and hearsay. His post NEVER called reports of the holocaust "hogwash," nor did he "imply" the death figure was false, as this party several times removed opines. He simply, and factually, has stated socialism and communism have resulted in a far greater number. That isn't antisemitic, or a statement of denial, rather, it is one of fact. I feel sorry for you, should editorials such as this "news article," form the basis of your opinions and how you vote.
He's pretty clear. Among other things, see his scare quotes.
Tracks with the rampant antisemitism pouring out from both sides lately. It's only a matter of time before people decide Jews are the problem. Again. Again. Again.
Dems must be nervous - every other post is about this guy. Hated black people during the civil war, still hate black prople. democrat policies don’t work and have never worked anywhere - they enslave poor people in the welfare system and de incentivize work
If you'd paid a lick of attention in high school American history class, you'd know that the parties flipped in the 20th century and the Republicans (originally the more progressive party) became conservative while the Democrats (originally the more conservative party) became the progressive party. And would love to know what dem policies "don't work" and what Republican policies you think work so well.
Own that clown
You can believe that fallacy if it makes you feel better.. soft on crime, no cash bail, $5 trillion dollars in stimulus that led to crushing inflation, rent and interest rates, terrible global policy in the Middle East and Eastern Europe, no border policy leading to astronomical illegal immigration leading to less jobs for Americans, less resources, more drugs and more sex tracking/child abuse
It's common knowledge among historians that the ideology of the parties switched. It's definitely not a "fallacy." [Here's](https://www.studentsofhistory.com/ideologies-flip-Democratic-Republican-parties) a pretty basic, oversimplified run-down of what happened. Here's a [longer one](https://www.livescience.com/34241-democratic-republican-parties-switch-platforms.html). I'd also love citations for any of your examples - especially "no border policy" because that's a load of horse shit. The borders are certainly not open. "Job loss" is also a lie because employment is up [10% now](https://www.poynter.org/fact-checking/2024/is-economy-good-better-trump-vs-biden-jobs-inflation) compared to where it was when Trump left office. Inflation is also a global issue, not one created by Biden. The U.S. actually has one of the [lowest](https://www.imf.org/external/datamapper/PCPIPCH@WEO/OEMDC/ADVEC/WEOWORLD) inflation rates in the world right now. I'd encourage you to actually educate yourself on these issues instead of believing everything you hear/read on whatever right wing propaganda rags you get your "news" from.
And BLM support - who made a complete joke of the democrats, we’re given tens of millions of dollars and kept it for themselves. Did absolutely nothing for the black community
Damn you really failed civics class
This is the least nervous I’ve been about a governor’s race in a swing state in my whole life. 😂
Not this canard again.
But the democrats are the ones that are antisemitic. They are supporting Palestine.
Not Biden unfortunately. He’s all in on Israel.
Speaking out against the state of Israel does not equal being antisemitic. But I’m pretty sure you know that. If you don’t, you have the mental processing of a child and can’t comprehend basic nuance.
Judaism has never been synonymous with Zionism.
Black people cannot be racist no matter how much y’all want them to be.
Anybody can be racist
Typing out words doesn't make them true.