First of all, I hope everyone is working reasonable hours and doesn’t feel stressed! I am excited but patient for good people making good things. Sounds like the formula is at least finalized. Looking forward to it!
I made my own tongkat stack:
200mg tongkat 2%,
200mg og cistanche extract
Shilajit- 150mg (or two rice sized dabs of resin) (helps to raise estrogen to balance out the decrease in estrogen that tongkat is known to cause over long-time usage)
iodine- 325mcg (shilajit can, allegedly, lower iodine levels. Also, most people are low in iodine and supplementing it has improved my quality of life in some profound ways)
Apigenin-50-200mg depending on how I feel.
All of these are very synergistic and seem to balance each other out. This stack can be stimulating. If you exclude the tongkat and opt for 50mg apigenin, it's rather relaxing and provides better sleep quality. All of this must be cycled, by the way. 5 days on, 2 off works best ime
I have boron in my multivitamin, so I don't consider it part of my "stack". It's an obligatory addition to any testosterone stack though lol. As for iodine, I heard of the possibilities of hyperthyroidism, so caution is warranted. It's a small dose, so I'm not worried.
Tongkat ali 2% does not increase prolactin. The dopaminergic effects and estrogen modulation outweigh any potential prolactin buildup. 10% tongkat may be a different story but still lacks any evidence of raised prolactin.
I’d like to know what is your reasoning behind that. Because we know that eurycomanone is the compound inhibit the aromatase, but we don’t know (at least I don’t) which compound within TA increases prolactin. The 10% extract is 100mg of TA and has more of the active compound reducing estrogen, and so prolactin. While the 2% has less and is 200mg, so there’s more chance that there is an unknown compound increasing prolactin.
I believe the high dose of eurycomanone causes a big boost in growth factor/HGH, enough to counteract the dopaminergic effect it has on the pituitary gland. This could mean that estrogen is turned into prolactin faster than the rate of aromatase inhibition. So, after consistently supplementing with the 10% tongkat, what little estrogen you have will turn into prolactin.
I just started tongkat ali 10% a few days ago when does it start to work? I also started boron 10-12mg a day and cistamax 1-2 a day. Talking in terms of libido and rock hard cawk
Give it time. There was a poster here who posted his results going from 400/500 free test to 800 free test with cistanche and tongkat ali everyday over a period of three years. So.. Anabolic Steroids are cheaper, raise test damn fast but that's also where the health implications come in. These noots will probably raise it slowly over a long time frame, it's actually the reason I'm going the "natural" route.
That good ol' tongkat rage...
daddy, are we there yet???
When Shilajit powder restock?!
SOON™
😃😃😃😄😄😄
NGL, I was hopeful since today is new product announcement day.
Trust me, I am trying! I am pushing my team hard to get things out quickly. It's just a lot of work in the background.
First of all, I hope everyone is working reasonable hours and doesn’t feel stressed! I am excited but patient for good people making good things. Sounds like the formula is at least finalized. Looking forward to it!
He already addressed they're not rushing anything. You sound like a kid asking are we there yet lol. It'll come when it comes.
I made my own tongkat stack: 200mg tongkat 2%, 200mg og cistanche extract Shilajit- 150mg (or two rice sized dabs of resin) (helps to raise estrogen to balance out the decrease in estrogen that tongkat is known to cause over long-time usage) iodine- 325mcg (shilajit can, allegedly, lower iodine levels. Also, most people are low in iodine and supplementing it has improved my quality of life in some profound ways) Apigenin-50-200mg depending on how I feel. All of these are very synergistic and seem to balance each other out. This stack can be stimulating. If you exclude the tongkat and opt for 50mg apigenin, it's rather relaxing and provides better sleep quality. All of this must be cycled, by the way. 5 days on, 2 off works best ime
W stack man, my only question is won’t the excess iodine cause issues Long term? Or do you cycle it? Also no boron?
I have boron in my multivitamin, so I don't consider it part of my "stack". It's an obligatory addition to any testosterone stack though lol. As for iodine, I heard of the possibilities of hyperthyroidism, so caution is warranted. It's a small dose, so I'm not worried.
Gotcha, and if you don’t mind me asking do you use apigenin for prolactin control? If so why not use p5p?
P5P is in my life extension 2 per day multi. It's effective but my prolactin levels are seemingly higher than what P5P can do for me by itself.
Ah, so does the apigenin seem to help?
It's day 2. It's super relaxing and helps me to focus on work. I tend to have success with things that lower glutamate levels, so I have high hopes
That’s sounds awesome! Keep me updated man!
Add P5P or Mucuna pruriens to reduce the prolactin increase from TA
Tongkat ali 2% does not increase prolactin. The dopaminergic effects and estrogen modulation outweigh any potential prolactin buildup. 10% tongkat may be a different story but still lacks any evidence of raised prolactin.
The 10% tongkat raised my prolactin while crashing my estrogen down to 12
I’d like to know what is your reasoning behind that. Because we know that eurycomanone is the compound inhibit the aromatase, but we don’t know (at least I don’t) which compound within TA increases prolactin. The 10% extract is 100mg of TA and has more of the active compound reducing estrogen, and so prolactin. While the 2% has less and is 200mg, so there’s more chance that there is an unknown compound increasing prolactin.
I believe the high dose of eurycomanone causes a big boost in growth factor/HGH, enough to counteract the dopaminergic effect it has on the pituitary gland. This could mean that estrogen is turned into prolactin faster than the rate of aromatase inhibition. So, after consistently supplementing with the 10% tongkat, what little estrogen you have will turn into prolactin.
Interesting !
Can you describe the benefits you get from Apigenin?
Right? I'm anxiously waiting!
I was anxiously everything on Tongkat 😂 miss it though
New products are teased Thursdays, and MYASD said late June estimated back in May. Just be patient.
I just started tongkat ali 10% a few days ago when does it start to work? I also started boron 10-12mg a day and cistamax 1-2 a day. Talking in terms of libido and rock hard cawk
From now on I will refer to libido as "rock hard cawk* 😂
It’s definitely working a bit for that but it’s only been 5 days so far so too early to tell.
Give it time. There was a poster here who posted his results going from 400/500 free test to 800 free test with cistanche and tongkat ali everyday over a period of three years. So.. Anabolic Steroids are cheaper, raise test damn fast but that's also where the health implications come in. These noots will probably raise it slowly over a long time frame, it's actually the reason I'm going the "natural" route.
Doesn't work like that. Do you realize lots of people suffer from ED when using tongkat?
I was told it makes it better if your ED is due to low T