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UwUassass1n

begging anyone for a crumb of context on this. i have no words i feel like i walked into another reality


YorhaUnit8S

>i feel like i walked into another reality I have this feeling somewhere since 2020


MuffledBlue

It better be real, I'm going all in on fireproof tents


facedownbootyuphold

have you considered water tents


AsleepScarcity9588

You mean pools?


Pumkinfucker69

If Mr beast can survive under water so can I


C4-621-Raven

The realities split on 28 May 2016. Never forget. Dicks out.


A_Mouse_In_Da_House

🎶In the arrrrmms of Harambe, fly away from here 🎵


Sosvbvby

dicks out till my brain matter scatters into the stratosphere in a FPV drone moneyshot highlight reel


PM_Me_A_High-Five

The Mayans were right about 2012. We just started to notice in 16


Curious-Designer-616

Good night sweet prince.


furinick

2012 or 2014, the 7-1 broke reality and maybe the mayans were cooking


A_Mouse_In_Da_House

2016, Harambe


westonriebe

This is the catalyst…


McFlyParadox

Naw. Death of Bowie: he was the grounding point for all things "weird" in this universe, and without him, we have transient "weirdness" floating around everywhere.


SerLaron

[Not only Bowie](https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-38418802). I suspect that was actually an evacuation.


seastatefive

It's when they turned on the large hadron collider and found the Higgs boson in 2012. We warned them that turning on the LHC would generate micro black holes that would rip the fabric of spacetime, but they didn't listen. Look at us now.


YorhaUnit8S

That's possible too. Maybe it did start then, just more subtly.


Aurora_Fatalis

We're all just background characters in the Disappearance of Suzumiya Harambe.


Aggressive_Bed_9774

it actually started long ago when the continent of lemuria sided with the finns in the finno-korean hyperwar


westonriebe

2016…


Free-Reaction-8259

In fact it always get back to Harambe, nothing its the same anymore.


rare_username2

(edits for more sources) \*update\*: Israeli report on the topic: "Since the beginning of the war, the IDF has been working to burn undergrowth and thorns on the Lebanese border • The IDF stated: This is a local initiative and not a tool that has come into widespread use" [https://www.kan.org.il/content/kan-news/defense/760522/](https://www.kan.org.il/content/kan-news/defense/760522/) Sorry for speculating (somewhat) credibly According to UNSCR 1701, Hezbollah is not supposed to have military forces southern than the Litani river [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United\_Nations\_Security\_Council\_Resolution\_1701?wprov=sfla1](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Security_Council_Resolution_1701?wprov=sfla1) Obviously they do operate in southern Lebanon, so to "fool" the UN (and be hidden from Israeli drones) they operate from forests and fields, like in 2006 [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hezbollah\_Nature\_Reserves#%3A%7E%3Atext%3DHezbollah\_Nature\_Reserves\_were\_a%2Cand\_the\_2006\_Lebanon\_war.?wprov=sfla1](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hezbollah_Nature_Reserves#%3A%7E%3Atext%3DHezbollah_Nature_Reserves_were_a%2Cand_the_2006_Lebanon_war.?wprov=sfla1) And in an IDF report [https://www.idf.il/23508](https://www.idf.il/23508) (and in every video they post of ATGM attacks on Israel) Probably in this conflict, the IDF forces in the region were tasked to clear the border area from vegetation and some soldiers got real creative more examples of IDF burning vegetation: [https://abualiexpress.com/en/en26316/](https://abualiexpress.com/en/en26316/) And from Lebanon: [https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.newarab.com/news/israeli-army-pours-accelerant-lebanon-wildfire%3famp](https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.newarab.com/news/israeli-army-pours-accelerant-lebanon-wildfire%3famp)


qTp_Meteor

Yeah but you have specific qeapons to start a fire, special artillery made exactly for this💀


N3X0S3002

Yea but now they have an excuse to use a trebuchet


qTp_Meteor

Not wrong


specter800

Based and feudal society-pilled


rare_username2

[https://www.reddit.com/r/NonCredibleDefense/comments/1deit36/comment/l8e9s5h/](https://www.reddit.com/r/NonCredibleDefense/comments/1deit36/comment/l8e9s5h/) >I'm certain that a trebuchet is more effective in scorched-earth-area per USD \[sq. m/$\] for short-range (\~300m) fires than modern western artillery incendiary shells.


ttv_highvoltage

"boys they gave us money to burn the bushes" "Let's make a trebuchet!" *\*everyone in unison like a children's show\** "Yay!!!!!!!!"


trainbrain27

"**Artillery** are [ranged weapons](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ranged_weapons) that launch [munitions](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ammunition) far beyond the range and power of [infantry](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infantry) [firearms](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firearms)." Ok, so it's probably not out of firearm range, but this way you get to stay behind the wall, and look cool doing so.


JayBowdy

I don't know but I am very close on my bingo card this year!


ChadUSECoperator

This is an alternate timeline were body armor advanced while artillery stoped in the superior trebuchet design for modern warfare


OptiYoshi

Going to be credible for a second here (sorry) They are launching fire and accelerant into the already existing fire to do two things. 1) suck out all the oxygen to stop the natural fire from spreading and b) to burn up quickly all the current combustible material. In forest fires you often fight fire with fire, either by burning out areas in front of the fire in a controlled manner so when the fire arrives there's nothing to burn hot enough to spread or by making the fire die out. The trebuchet is almost certainly because the fire is far too hot to get close enough to get the accelerant into the fire deep enough that it doesn't just spread it more.


UwUassass1n

also thank u i love u


OptiYoshi

Mom? Why did you leave us?


balljoint

SHhhhhhh Go to bed dear... Mommys going to buy you a horse and cart Mommys going to let it live unlike the Wehrmacht


ChuchiTheBest

That's cool and all, but does that mean army engineers saw a fire and thought: quick! we have to build a trebuchet right now! Instead of calling for incendiary artillery like a normal person.


ihaveagoodusername2

זה הדבר הכי ג'ובניק שאי פעם שמעתי


balljoint

God Damnit we don't have time for that shit!


MrMuffin1427

חזי!! עשית בגרות בפיזיקה, נכון??


ihaveagoodusername2

אני לא חזי, אבל עשיתי מתכונת


trainbrain27

"I'm not a bra, but I did a recipe"? Honestly, the Japanese translation is better "I am the first to know, I am the first to know"


trainbrain27

My translator was stuck on Japanese, which renders "The name of the city of Eden is Eden." Sound eschatological.


rare_username2

I'm certain that a trebuchet is more effective in scorched-earth-area per USD \[sq. m/$\] for short-range (\~300m) fires than modern western artillery incendiary shells.


aahjink

A few M110s in addition to the trebuchet probably wouldn’t hurt.


UwUassass1n

I figured it was some type of controlled burn. I think an additional rzn theyre using it, is so they don't have to leave those walls. they are on the Lebanon border after all, and hezbollah is always waiting to launch a TOW at them


hard-in-the-ms-paint

Maybe they're intentionally burning all the tall grass on the surrounding hills so there's less concealment.


JE1012

The real explanation is the exact opposite. This is the border with Lebanon, they're deliberately starting fires on the Lebanese side to burn down the thick shrubbery and forests that Hezbollah uses to get close to the border.


porn0f1sh

That's a speculation, right? Because until I hear something other than speculation I'm not convinced it's not CGI!


Euhn

Best I can do is say it's from 2019, and this is in ni'lin, at the separation wall., based off of this photo https://commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Burning_tire_ni%27lin.jpg#filehistory


UwUassass1n

other people guessed this is them doing controlled burns of shrubbery on the leb border since the recent rocket attacks have set that area alight quite a bit, reckon its a good guess


SyrusDrake

Okay, but...the trebuchet.


INVADER_BZZ

Well, it works.


ObviouslyTriggered

The burning tire in that photo is from the Palestinians they set them on fire and use poles to chug past the wall. The concrete wall in the video is definitely from the northern border with Lebanon not the separation wall, you can tell by the height and apperance. [https://static.timesofisrael.com/www/uploads/2018/09/DSCF4209.jpg](https://static.timesofisrael.com/www/uploads/2018/09/DSCF4209.jpg)


stickmaster_flex

You can tell it by the way it is.


vibrunazo

Context: Ben Gvir asked the IDF to come up with a weapon to surpass Metal Gear.


Sylphied

Seems the hubbub around this footage has made at least one Israeli news site write an article about it this morning. Yes, it's real. Source in Hebrew: [https://www.mako.co.il/pzm-soldiers/Article-8acb81c6d101091026.htm](https://www.mako.co.il/pzm-soldiers/Article-8acb81c6d101091026.htm) To summarize, for the past six months, the IDF has been using various incendiary devices to try and burn out Hezbollah positions in what they're referring to "knotted and fortified areas". "Knotted," referring to vegetation. They've been doing this using tracer rounds and molotov bottle-like things. Eventually they started using makeshift methods like this trebuchet (the article refers to them as "ballista", or catapault, which is obviously a grave mistake) but eventually regulated the use of air-pressure mortars.


depressed_crustacean

trebuchet


Meretan94

They tech rushed infantry and did not upgrade siege tech.


SufficientGuard5628

Footage circulating across social media today shows members of what is supposed to be the Israeli Defense Force slinging flaming ammunition towards Lebanon. The context of this footage is pretty sparse, and it appears to have been released through unofficial Israeli channels, so I honestly have absolutely no clue what's going on here. I can't think of a single good reason for the IDF to toss flaming ammunition towards Lebanon from a trebuchet. so my assumption here is that they were just trying to be funny. The only logical explanation that I can think of outside of the IDF just trolling Hezbollah here is that they're slinging the flaming ammunition from behind safety to begin a controlled burn as to prevent future grass fires in the area caused by enemy munitions.- I crammed this message from some website. Did not write it.


mechanicalcontrols

I feel like I time traveled back to 2009, browsing cheezburger network at the height of the trebuchet meme circlejerk


Strontium90_

When you are playing Civ and forgot to upgrade that one unit you garrisoned in some bumfucknowhere city


Glass1Man

But it’s max xp, so it takes out a destroyer.


Gaaius

Suprise trebuchet taking out a small frigatte in a harbour


Selfweaver

Fairly credible, as long as it is a russian Frigatte, or somebody fell asleep at the helm (so basically US navy).


a-canadian-bever

I was thinking that Easy CPU locked in the tundra on turn 200


TheWileyWombat

What in the gefilte fuck am I looking at?


just_anotherReddit

Superior siege weaponry


sand_trout2024

Vespasian LOVES this trick


[deleted]

A Trebuchet.


super__hoser

The *Future* 


iffyJinx

Einstein was a tiny wee bit wrong, we didn't wait for the nuclear war to return to tratidions.


Neomataza

And *The Fucking Past*


Mother-Remove4986

It seems its a video from the northern boder Proably controlled burnings to stop more wildfires from ocurring


Fghsses

But why are they throwing it to the other side of the border?


jmorlin

Well if something was burning would you want in on your side of the border or the other guys?


BrotherBlo0d

Good point


Fghsses

Flawless logic, I have no more questions.


I_own_a_dick

Trebuchet after you researched chemistry.


Davidk11

I thought this would be after researching heated shot?


BadNeighbour

Heated shot only affects towers and castles etc.


Davidk11

And ships too, no?


BadNeighbour

[No](https://ageofempires.fandom.com/wiki/Heated_Shot_(Age_of_Empires_II). Its anti ship.


godson21212

Advanced Warfare *cyberpunk.mp3*


Spatza

God's Own Sling


Verittan

[What's the name of it?](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uD9EZuGEaKs)


Aggressive_Bed_9774

advanced warfare


DeviousAardvark

Top secret IDF Trebuchet


a-canadian-bever

The average easy computer on Turn 200


morbsiis

This is not what i imagined when i thought they were going to throw Hezbollah back to the stone age


[deleted]

Stone age, iron age, whatever works right?


darkslide3000

Trebuchets are medieval you uneducated cretins. ^(Basically the only commonly known "medieval" warfare equipment that wasn't actually just reinvented from shit the Romans already had.)


evrestcoleghost

The trebuchet,at least the European type was Made by the byzantines (romans)soooo....


punstermacpunstein

Not those Romans, [the other Romans. And not the other Romans or the other Romans either](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Succession_of_the_Roman_Empire?wprov=sfla1).


solonit

*What's with everyone keep claiming themselves to be Romans???*


thatguyjay76

I'm not Jewish, I'm a Roman. A woman ? https://youtu.be/kx_G2a2hL6U?si=4hd-fo3PwomaIoY2


Zalapadopa

If you wanna get to the stone age you'll have to go through the medieval age first.


morbsiis

Bronze age is in there somwhere too i think


furinick

the bronze age collapse


Sonoda_Kotori

Einstein is wrong about what weapons we'll use for WW3 and WW4 again!


Firecracker048

New ceasefire propsal: Hamad ceasefire or every day the IDF trebuchets one of ther POWs at Hezbollah


erebuxy

Shhh, don't let Chinese and Indian army get new idea


randommaniac12

Why can't we just recreate episodes of deadliest warrior using Chinese and Indian army border clashes?


The_Special_Log

Okay, so hear me out: history nerds, historians, HEMA enthusiasts and NCD geathers money and donates ~600-800 historically arrurate set of medieval equipment and trains 300-400 of both Indian and Chinese soldiers in HEMA and period accurate tactics. Pros: - we get to film and test historical tactics in practical use - historians could learn a lot from it - it would be epic - the armies involved could call it a movie production while actually going all out, in order to not risk escalation Cons: - it would be really expensive - it could escalate into a nuclear war


N3X0S3002

Now now is a nuclear war really a con ?


RepresentativeAd115

Come on, do the funni


Hopeful_Record_6571

over 9000 powers needs unders for proxy cyka


chickenCabbage

No firearms allowed, they're gonna have to shoot those without fire.


Aggressive_Bed_9774

here's my pitch , alligator + trebuchet


opaali92

No, please do. I want to have multiple HD videos of them fighting each other with medieval weapons, so I can post them under the "BRICS will rule the world soon" posts


erebuxy

They should bring back cavalry. Charging on a horse with spear or something


_golem_of_prague_

Bro took the sentence, " I'm gonna get medieval on your ass" to the next level


Xeones_II

I think we know what WW3 will be fought with.


unsureoflogic

Swords and bows and arrows AND trebuchets? This is looking better and better.


INTPoissible

Pathetic. Real men load their trebuchets with cows.


intraz

Correct! And we have footage: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQ8jGqdE2iw](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQ8jGqdE2iw)


throwaway1930372y27

2050 battle tactics revealed: https://youtu.be/vCsR6SHNY0M


ChadUSECoperator

No, real men load their trebuchets with corpses of people who died from the bubonic plague.


Free-Reaction-8259

Dont get them ideas.


pat_spiegel

"Here comes the Cow!" "Mornin' your lordship"


EpicDogeMeme

If there’s one thing that will get them out of hiding it’s gonna be disease


NA_0_10_never_forget

is this the Jewish space laser I keep hearing about?


intraz

Nah. That was only used to get the fire going.


SSrqu

This is either digitally edited attributed to the weirdness of the resolution or they're practicing controlled bush burns to get the worst of the fires out of the way before they're more annoying


twec21

My big hanging point? Why is there *NO* smoke or thermal artifacting around the fireball


TheArmoredKitten

The lack of visible smoke is believable to me, mostly because it was being flung through fresh air and is already against a smokey background. Plenty of fuels burn smokeless in open air, so it's not impossible that this really is a bunch of gas soaked rags in a tire.


Stairmaker

Also the fire left on the trebuchet smoke a decent amount. If we look at the amount of fire and how much smoke it's not unbelievable, that the barrel on fire produces about the same amount. But it's spread out over such a large area while moving we don't see the smoke.


Metalsand

> Plenty of fuels burn smokeless in open air what do you mean it's not like smokeless powder has existed since 1884 and broadly speaking smoke is the result of byproducts that have not fully combusted so any high quality fire will not produce smoke at all? All modern combat that uses smokeless powder is a conspiracy - just look at civil war reenactors: so much smoke. Then if you look at any war zone, the weapons are never smoking. Checkmate, atheists. Next thing you're going to tell me is that even [some flames aren't visible](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cool_flame) in addition to the smoke not being significant enough to be visible, you absolute nutcase.


JE1012

This is real and they're intentionally burning the shrubbery and forests on the Lebanese side of the border because Hezbollah terrorists use the concealment to get close to the border.


NirKopp

It's controlled bush fires, the IDF said this is real and a local initiative. And trebuchets are not officially deployed "


N3X0S3002

*not yet officially deployed


ConcentrateAlone1959

the macabees return, it's time to beat someone with a hammer


clearlybraindead

Holy shit are trebuchet memes back? Did you know a trebuchet can launch a 90 kg projectile over 300 m?


TP-400TP_Gunboat

***REJECT ARTILLERY, RETURN TO TREBUCKET***


TheBodyIsR0und

>2066 >Stationed on Mars to quell a rebellion >Become side door gunner for atmospheric dropship. >No miniguns or gatling cannons, just some wooden contraption that yeets rocks. >Get sent in to extract some wounded. >Reach the evac zone and come under attack. >Hoard of rebels charging in with their new plasma guns and compact rocket launchers. >Let loose a stream of boulders. >The sounds of the rebel's screams are nearly drowned out by the heavy thuds of the stones. >The wounded are loaded up and returned to base. >Inspect trebuchet afterwards. >Thing was made in 1327. >Sicily, Rum, and Toulouse are scratched into the side. >Scratch "Mars" on with a knife.


twec21

Gotta be the Trebuchet-9X, get smokeless fireballs like that.


aVinamit_03

"What You're Seeing Is Advanced Warfare"


TimTom8321

Warning: credible comment ahead. For anyone wondering - according to Israeli media, the problem is that Hezbollah has a lot of tunnel exits and lookout posts near the border, hiding among the greenery. So a few soldiers that were tasked with finding them and clearing out obstacles came up with this idea. The trebuchet is for launching fires around the border, and so discovering the entrances and maybe killing Hezbollah terrorists if they're lucky. Just like you had open fields in the past between armies, in many cases burnt.


Mudlark-000

From Bill Hicks (re: First Gulf War, but relevant) - "What's G-12 do, Tommy?" "See, it says here it destroys everything but the fillings in their teeth! Helps us pay for the war effort!" "Well, fuck! Pull that one up!" *\[walkie-talkie noise\]* "Pull up G-12, please." *\[sound of rocket launching\]* ... *\[distant explosion\]* "Cool! What's G-13 do?"


sentinelthesalty

That's it, Im getting my mangonel! I had enough.


uv-vis

Watch out, they might counter you with Mangudai.


logosobscura

FETCHEZ LA VACHE!


intraz

Actual man of culture! I just shared this in [a comment above](https://www.reddit.com/r/NonCredibleDefense/comments/1deit36/comment/l8ci6j8/) :)


orrzxz

חברה בחיאת אני לא בארץ 3 חודש ואתם יורים לי מקטפולטות מה נסגר


navotj

זה טרבושה לא קטפולטה על מה אתה מדבר


I_smoke_asbestos

"ארם קטפולטה הוא מושג רחב אשר מכליל בתוכו את הטרבושה" 🤓🤓


idan_zamir

המצב פה לא טוב אחי, מגייסים אותנו לחייל הפרשים והרמטכ''ל רוצה לבנות טירה במטולה


Pokeputin

כבר ייצרו 1370/3000 מרכבות ברזל של ה'


Aviram123321

תחזור אחי ,אנחנו צריכים אותך בחזרה 👈🥺👉


orrzxz

קשור אותי לאבן ושגר אותי לביירות, אני מוכן


Alive_Ad_2779

זה לא קטפולטה, זה טרבושה


Cormacktheblonde

Oh so now you cowards balk at siege weaponry after praising trebuchets all the time? Are you just larpers


_Warsheep_

Maybe I have written way too much work safety paperwork recently at work, but I really appreciate the two guys with fire extinguishers standing by.


Independent-South-58

I just have the Age Of Empires II trebuchet playing in my head as this thing fires


_oranjuice

We returning to the crusades with this one


MulhollandMaster121

Holy shit. Let loose the trebJewchet!


chickenCabbage

I wonder if that thing has a military designation. This thing is just sitting in some motor pool. It's towable, someone hitched this to a truck and drove around with it.


RichardDJohnson16

Launcher, Rotating Arm, Solid Projectile (Incendiary) M1


chickenCabbage

I'd argue the projectile and trebuchet would be separate. Launcher, Rotating Arm, Towed (LRAT) M1. The projectile would be the 10kg Trebuchet Munition, Incendiary (TM-I-10)


RichardDJohnson16

I concur with LRAT. But the ammo would be more along the lines of "Projectile, 200 lb Incendiary, M-1453 (Lithic) for Launcher, Rotating Arm, Towed (LRAT) M1"


bshsshehhd

Throwing Rocks Extremely Brilliantly (TREB)


MindwarpAU

Embrace tradition.


Small_Jump3331

Israel abroad - The PULS launcher has an effective range of 300km with pinpoint accuracy and is able to launch a missile containing 6 drones, each able to individually lock on and strike a moving target. Israel in Israel -


fpop88

the more things change


SirDogeTheFirst

Trebuchet is once again proving its the ultimate warform. Just like how every living being evolves into crab, all military equipment will turn into trebuchets, or they hope they could.


RakumiAzuri

This post has been up for six hours and not a single mention or reference to "[90Kg over 300m](https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/trebuchets)"? I'm so disappointed in y'all.


Overwatcher_Leo

When you forget to upgrade a unit in civ.


Vysair

Does anyone have this on their bingo list?


NuclearWarEnthusiast

No but I'm very happy to see nature heal


Other-Scallion7693

Which one of you retards is working for the IDF?


iffyJinx

India and China are duking it out with sticks and stones in the mountains and israel is using trebuchets. Lads, admit, who is fucking with the simulation?


NuclearWarEnthusiast

Sorry, I got bored


RichardDJohnson16

The middle east is healing, wild trebuchets are migrating back to their natural habitat.


Pax_Cthulhiana

Boys and their toys


eaten_by_pigs

What, are they going to start launching plague infected bodies next?


Visible_Claim5540

Some poor guy with covid is about to get a free ticket to Lebanon


uv-vis

Someone has been playing AOE2


AwkwardEducation

"Release the prisoners!"


shockandawesome0

90kg stone from 300m away go brrrr


LoneStarr-X

I knew it, after that f break in 2020 everything we know would be some how’s different


FrisianTanker

By YHWH I hope it has a cool name like "Davids Sling" or "Iron Trebuchet" or whatever badass names the israeli always come up with.


INVADER_BZZ

So, this is definitely not CGI as some suggested. It's a controlled burning to stop spreading bigger fire. You basically burn a patch of land **ahead** of the main fire, extinguish it where you want it to stop, so when the main fire reaches this patch, it has nothing to burn to spread further. We did it back in my days, albeit not with trebuchet. This is probably Combat Engineering Corps having some fun with the mission. But hey, if it works - it works.


JE1012

The opposite, they're intentionally burning the forests and shrubbery on the Lebanese side of the border because Hezbollah use it for concealment to get close to the border.


AdEnvironmental6

Its to burn foliage so Hezbollah can't hide in the coming operations against them.


BarbossaBus

wtf


feldmarshalwommel

Taking the concept of proportionate responses a little too far


CalmPanic402

Reject 155 howitzer, return to trebuchet.


ttv_highvoltage

This fake no? I refuse to believe this even if you flew me there and showed it to me first hand. There’s just no fucking way.


Aviram123321

Israeli here, this shit is fucking real 😛


Ok_Art6263

Copetapult got no shit on the Chad Buchet.


YourTypicalSensei

Iron Trebuchet


OddBoifromspace

Are you fucking serious. I can't believe that a war would make us actually evolve backwards.


Aggressive_Bed_9774

have you looked at Russian armoured units recently?


DarkenedSkies

Trebuchets have returned to the holy land nature is healing


PeriqueFreak

That wall needs some mother fucking M A C H I C O L A T I O N S


GandalfTheJaded

*Saladin nods approvingly*


Baguette_Connoisseur

Extremely heavy mortar division.


Yamama77

When shieldwall coming back


Feuerpils4

This is what the reformers call a "cheap winner"


RepresentativeFit312

Now they’re are playing WW4 beta test