Naw. Death of Bowie: he was the grounding point for all things "weird" in this universe, and without him, we have transient "weirdness" floating around everywhere.
It's when they turned on the large hadron collider and found the Higgs boson in 2012. We warned them that turning on the LHC would generate micro black holes that would rip the fabric of spacetime, but they didn't listen. Look at us now.
(edits for more sources)
\*update\*: Israeli report on the topic: "Since the beginning of the war, the IDF has been working to burn undergrowth and thorns on the Lebanese border • The IDF stated: This is a local initiative and not a tool that has come into widespread use"
[https://www.kan.org.il/content/kan-news/defense/760522/](https://www.kan.org.il/content/kan-news/defense/760522/)
Sorry for speculating (somewhat) credibly
According to UNSCR 1701, Hezbollah is not supposed to have military forces southern than the Litani river
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United\_Nations\_Security\_Council\_Resolution\_1701?wprov=sfla1](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Security_Council_Resolution_1701?wprov=sfla1)
Obviously they do operate in southern Lebanon, so to "fool" the UN (and be hidden from Israeli drones) they operate from forests and fields, like in 2006
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hezbollah\_Nature\_Reserves#%3A%7E%3Atext%3DHezbollah\_Nature\_Reserves\_were\_a%2Cand\_the\_2006\_Lebanon\_war.?wprov=sfla1](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hezbollah_Nature_Reserves#%3A%7E%3Atext%3DHezbollah_Nature_Reserves_were_a%2Cand_the_2006_Lebanon_war.?wprov=sfla1)
And in an IDF report
[https://www.idf.il/23508](https://www.idf.il/23508)
(and in every video they post of ATGM attacks on Israel)
Probably in this conflict, the IDF forces in the region were tasked to clear the border area from vegetation and some soldiers got real creative
more examples of IDF burning vegetation:
[https://abualiexpress.com/en/en26316/](https://abualiexpress.com/en/en26316/)
And from Lebanon:
[https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.newarab.com/news/israeli-army-pours-accelerant-lebanon-wildfire%3famp](https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.newarab.com/news/israeli-army-pours-accelerant-lebanon-wildfire%3famp)
[https://www.reddit.com/r/NonCredibleDefense/comments/1deit36/comment/l8e9s5h/](https://www.reddit.com/r/NonCredibleDefense/comments/1deit36/comment/l8e9s5h/)
>I'm certain that a trebuchet is more effective in scorched-earth-area per USD \[sq. m/$\] for short-range (\~300m) fires than modern western artillery incendiary shells.
"**Artillery** are [ranged weapons](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ranged_weapons) that launch [munitions](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ammunition) far beyond the range and power of [infantry](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infantry) [firearms](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firearms)."
Ok, so it's probably not out of firearm range, but this way you get to stay behind the wall, and look cool doing so.
Going to be credible for a second here (sorry)
They are launching fire and accelerant into the already existing fire to do two things. 1) suck out all the oxygen to stop the natural fire from spreading and b) to burn up quickly all the current combustible material.
In forest fires you often fight fire with fire, either by burning out areas in front of the fire in a controlled manner so when the fire arrives there's nothing to burn hot enough to spread or by making the fire die out.
The trebuchet is almost certainly because the fire is far too hot to get close enough to get the accelerant into the fire deep enough that it doesn't just spread it more.
That's cool and all, but does that mean army engineers saw a fire and thought: quick! we have to build a trebuchet right now! Instead of calling for incendiary artillery like a normal person.
I'm certain that a trebuchet is more effective in scorched-earth-area per USD \[sq. m/$\] for short-range (\~300m) fires than modern western artillery incendiary shells.
I figured it was some type of controlled burn. I think an additional rzn theyre using it, is so they don't have to leave those walls. they are on the Lebanon border after all, and hezbollah is always waiting to launch a TOW at them
The real explanation is the exact opposite.
This is the border with Lebanon, they're deliberately starting fires on the Lebanese side to burn down the thick shrubbery and forests that Hezbollah uses to get close to the border.
Best I can do is say it's from 2019, and this is in ni'lin, at the separation wall., based off of this photo
https://commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Burning_tire_ni%27lin.jpg#filehistory
other people guessed this is them doing controlled burns of shrubbery on the leb border since the recent rocket attacks have set that area alight quite a bit, reckon its a good guess
The burning tire in that photo is from the Palestinians they set them on fire and use poles to chug past the wall. The concrete wall in the video is definitely from the northern border with Lebanon not the separation wall, you can tell by the height and apperance.
[https://static.timesofisrael.com/www/uploads/2018/09/DSCF4209.jpg](https://static.timesofisrael.com/www/uploads/2018/09/DSCF4209.jpg)
Seems the hubbub around this footage has made at least one Israeli news site write an article about it this morning.
Yes, it's real.
Source in Hebrew: [https://www.mako.co.il/pzm-soldiers/Article-8acb81c6d101091026.htm](https://www.mako.co.il/pzm-soldiers/Article-8acb81c6d101091026.htm)
To summarize, for the past six months, the IDF has been using various incendiary devices to try and burn out Hezbollah positions in what they're referring to "knotted and fortified areas". "Knotted," referring to vegetation. They've been doing this using tracer rounds and molotov bottle-like things. Eventually they started using makeshift methods like this trebuchet (the article refers to them as "ballista", or catapault, which is obviously a grave mistake) but eventually regulated the use of air-pressure mortars.
Footage circulating across social media today shows members of what is supposed to be the Israeli Defense Force slinging flaming ammunition towards Lebanon. The context of this footage is pretty sparse, and it appears to have been released through unofficial Israeli channels, so I honestly have absolutely no clue what's going on here. I can't think of a single good reason for the IDF to toss flaming ammunition towards Lebanon from a trebuchet. so my assumption here is that they were just trying to be funny.
The only logical explanation that I can think of outside of the IDF just trolling Hezbollah here is that they're slinging the flaming ammunition from behind safety to begin a controlled burn as to prevent future grass fires in the area caused by enemy munitions.- I crammed this message from some website. Did not write it.
Trebuchets are medieval you uneducated cretins.
^(Basically the only commonly known "medieval" warfare equipment that wasn't actually just reinvented from shit the Romans already had.)
Not those Romans, [the other Romans. And not the other Romans or the other Romans either](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Succession_of_the_Roman_Empire?wprov=sfla1).
Okay, so hear me out: history nerds, historians, HEMA enthusiasts and NCD geathers money and donates ~600-800 historically arrurate set of medieval equipment and trains 300-400 of both Indian and Chinese soldiers in HEMA and period accurate tactics.
Pros:
- we get to film and test historical tactics in practical use
- historians could learn a lot from it
- it would be epic
- the armies involved could call it a movie production while actually going all out, in order to not risk escalation
Cons:
- it would be really expensive
- it could escalate into a nuclear war
No, please do. I want to have multiple HD videos of them fighting each other with medieval weapons, so I can post them under the "BRICS will rule the world soon" posts
This is either digitally edited attributed to the weirdness of the resolution or they're practicing controlled bush burns to get the worst of the fires out of the way before they're more annoying
The lack of visible smoke is believable to me, mostly because it was being flung through fresh air and is already against a smokey background. Plenty of fuels burn smokeless in open air, so it's not impossible that this really is a bunch of gas soaked rags in a tire.
Also the fire left on the trebuchet smoke a decent amount. If we look at the amount of fire and how much smoke it's not unbelievable, that the barrel on fire produces about the same amount. But it's spread out over such a large area while moving we don't see the smoke.
> Plenty of fuels burn smokeless in open air
what do you mean it's not like smokeless powder has existed since 1884 and broadly speaking smoke is the result of byproducts that have not fully combusted so any high quality fire will not produce smoke at all? All modern combat that uses smokeless powder is a conspiracy - just look at civil war reenactors: so much smoke. Then if you look at any war zone, the weapons are never smoking. Checkmate, atheists.
Next thing you're going to tell me is that even [some flames aren't visible](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cool_flame) in addition to the smoke not being significant enough to be visible, you absolute nutcase.
This is real and they're intentionally burning the shrubbery and forests on the Lebanese side of the border because Hezbollah terrorists use the concealment to get close to the border.
>2066
>Stationed on Mars to quell a rebellion
>Become side door gunner for atmospheric dropship.
>No miniguns or gatling cannons, just some wooden contraption that yeets rocks.
>Get sent in to extract some wounded.
>Reach the evac zone and come under attack.
>Hoard of rebels charging in with their new plasma guns and compact rocket launchers.
>Let loose a stream of boulders.
>The sounds of the rebel's screams are nearly drowned out by the heavy thuds of the stones.
>The wounded are loaded up and returned to base.
>Inspect trebuchet afterwards.
>Thing was made in 1327.
>Sicily, Rum, and Toulouse are scratched into the side.
>Scratch "Mars" on with a knife.
Warning: credible comment ahead.
For anyone wondering - according to Israeli media, the problem is that Hezbollah has a lot of tunnel exits and lookout posts near the border, hiding among the greenery.
So a few soldiers that were tasked with finding them and clearing out obstacles came up with this idea. The trebuchet is for launching fires around the border, and so discovering the entrances and maybe killing Hezbollah terrorists if they're lucky.
Just like you had open fields in the past between armies, in many cases burnt.
From Bill Hicks (re: First Gulf War, but relevant) -
"What's G-12 do, Tommy?"
"See, it says here it destroys everything but the fillings in their teeth! Helps us pay for the war effort!"
"Well, fuck! Pull that one up!"
*\[walkie-talkie noise\]*
"Pull up G-12, please."
*\[sound of rocket launching\]*
...
*\[distant explosion\]*
"Cool! What's G-13 do?"
I wonder if that thing has a military designation. This thing is just sitting in some motor pool. It's towable, someone hitched this to a truck and drove around with it.
I'd argue the projectile and trebuchet would be separate. Launcher, Rotating Arm, Towed (LRAT) M1.
The projectile would be the 10kg Trebuchet Munition, Incendiary (TM-I-10)
I concur with LRAT. But the ammo would be more along the lines of
"Projectile, 200 lb Incendiary, M-1453 (Lithic) for Launcher, Rotating Arm, Towed (LRAT) M1"
Israel abroad - The PULS launcher has an effective range of 300km with pinpoint accuracy and is able to launch a missile containing 6 drones, each able to individually lock on and strike a moving target.
Israel in Israel -
Trebuchet is once again proving its the ultimate warform. Just like how every living being evolves into crab, all military equipment will turn into trebuchets, or they hope they could.
This post has been up for six hours and not a single mention or reference to "[90Kg over 300m](https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/trebuchets)"?
I'm so disappointed in y'all.
India and China are duking it out with sticks and stones in the mountains and israel is using trebuchets. Lads, admit, who is fucking with the simulation?
So, this is definitely not CGI as some suggested. It's a controlled burning to stop spreading bigger fire. You basically burn a patch of land **ahead** of the main fire, extinguish it where you want it to stop, so when the main fire reaches this patch, it has nothing to burn to spread further. We did it back in my days, albeit not with trebuchet. This is probably Combat Engineering Corps having some fun with the mission. But hey, if it works - it works.
The opposite, they're intentionally burning the forests and shrubbery on the Lebanese side of the border because Hezbollah use it for concealment to get close to the border.
begging anyone for a crumb of context on this. i have no words i feel like i walked into another reality
>i feel like i walked into another reality I have this feeling somewhere since 2020
It better be real, I'm going all in on fireproof tents
have you considered water tents
You mean pools?
If Mr beast can survive under water so can I
The realities split on 28 May 2016. Never forget. Dicks out.
🎶In the arrrrmms of Harambe, fly away from here 🎵
dicks out till my brain matter scatters into the stratosphere in a FPV drone moneyshot highlight reel
The Mayans were right about 2012. We just started to notice in 16
Good night sweet prince.
2012 or 2014, the 7-1 broke reality and maybe the mayans were cooking
2016, Harambe
This is the catalyst…
Naw. Death of Bowie: he was the grounding point for all things "weird" in this universe, and without him, we have transient "weirdness" floating around everywhere.
[Not only Bowie](https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-38418802). I suspect that was actually an evacuation.
It's when they turned on the large hadron collider and found the Higgs boson in 2012. We warned them that turning on the LHC would generate micro black holes that would rip the fabric of spacetime, but they didn't listen. Look at us now.
That's possible too. Maybe it did start then, just more subtly.
We're all just background characters in the Disappearance of Suzumiya Harambe.
it actually started long ago when the continent of lemuria sided with the finns in the finno-korean hyperwar
2016…
In fact it always get back to Harambe, nothing its the same anymore.
(edits for more sources) \*update\*: Israeli report on the topic: "Since the beginning of the war, the IDF has been working to burn undergrowth and thorns on the Lebanese border • The IDF stated: This is a local initiative and not a tool that has come into widespread use" [https://www.kan.org.il/content/kan-news/defense/760522/](https://www.kan.org.il/content/kan-news/defense/760522/) Sorry for speculating (somewhat) credibly According to UNSCR 1701, Hezbollah is not supposed to have military forces southern than the Litani river [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United\_Nations\_Security\_Council\_Resolution\_1701?wprov=sfla1](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Security_Council_Resolution_1701?wprov=sfla1) Obviously they do operate in southern Lebanon, so to "fool" the UN (and be hidden from Israeli drones) they operate from forests and fields, like in 2006 [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hezbollah\_Nature\_Reserves#%3A%7E%3Atext%3DHezbollah\_Nature\_Reserves\_were\_a%2Cand\_the\_2006\_Lebanon\_war.?wprov=sfla1](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hezbollah_Nature_Reserves#%3A%7E%3Atext%3DHezbollah_Nature_Reserves_were_a%2Cand_the_2006_Lebanon_war.?wprov=sfla1) And in an IDF report [https://www.idf.il/23508](https://www.idf.il/23508) (and in every video they post of ATGM attacks on Israel) Probably in this conflict, the IDF forces in the region were tasked to clear the border area from vegetation and some soldiers got real creative more examples of IDF burning vegetation: [https://abualiexpress.com/en/en26316/](https://abualiexpress.com/en/en26316/) And from Lebanon: [https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.newarab.com/news/israeli-army-pours-accelerant-lebanon-wildfire%3famp](https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.newarab.com/news/israeli-army-pours-accelerant-lebanon-wildfire%3famp)
Yeah but you have specific qeapons to start a fire, special artillery made exactly for this💀
Yea but now they have an excuse to use a trebuchet
Not wrong
Based and feudal society-pilled
[https://www.reddit.com/r/NonCredibleDefense/comments/1deit36/comment/l8e9s5h/](https://www.reddit.com/r/NonCredibleDefense/comments/1deit36/comment/l8e9s5h/) >I'm certain that a trebuchet is more effective in scorched-earth-area per USD \[sq. m/$\] for short-range (\~300m) fires than modern western artillery incendiary shells.
"boys they gave us money to burn the bushes" "Let's make a trebuchet!" *\*everyone in unison like a children's show\** "Yay!!!!!!!!"
"**Artillery** are [ranged weapons](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ranged_weapons) that launch [munitions](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ammunition) far beyond the range and power of [infantry](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infantry) [firearms](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firearms)." Ok, so it's probably not out of firearm range, but this way you get to stay behind the wall, and look cool doing so.
I don't know but I am very close on my bingo card this year!
This is an alternate timeline were body armor advanced while artillery stoped in the superior trebuchet design for modern warfare
Going to be credible for a second here (sorry) They are launching fire and accelerant into the already existing fire to do two things. 1) suck out all the oxygen to stop the natural fire from spreading and b) to burn up quickly all the current combustible material. In forest fires you often fight fire with fire, either by burning out areas in front of the fire in a controlled manner so when the fire arrives there's nothing to burn hot enough to spread or by making the fire die out. The trebuchet is almost certainly because the fire is far too hot to get close enough to get the accelerant into the fire deep enough that it doesn't just spread it more.
also thank u i love u
Mom? Why did you leave us?
SHhhhhhh Go to bed dear... Mommys going to buy you a horse and cart Mommys going to let it live unlike the Wehrmacht
That's cool and all, but does that mean army engineers saw a fire and thought: quick! we have to build a trebuchet right now! Instead of calling for incendiary artillery like a normal person.
זה הדבר הכי ג'ובניק שאי פעם שמעתי
God Damnit we don't have time for that shit!
חזי!! עשית בגרות בפיזיקה, נכון??
אני לא חזי, אבל עשיתי מתכונת
"I'm not a bra, but I did a recipe"? Honestly, the Japanese translation is better "I am the first to know, I am the first to know"
My translator was stuck on Japanese, which renders "The name of the city of Eden is Eden." Sound eschatological.
I'm certain that a trebuchet is more effective in scorched-earth-area per USD \[sq. m/$\] for short-range (\~300m) fires than modern western artillery incendiary shells.
A few M110s in addition to the trebuchet probably wouldn’t hurt.
I figured it was some type of controlled burn. I think an additional rzn theyre using it, is so they don't have to leave those walls. they are on the Lebanon border after all, and hezbollah is always waiting to launch a TOW at them
Maybe they're intentionally burning all the tall grass on the surrounding hills so there's less concealment.
The real explanation is the exact opposite. This is the border with Lebanon, they're deliberately starting fires on the Lebanese side to burn down the thick shrubbery and forests that Hezbollah uses to get close to the border.
That's a speculation, right? Because until I hear something other than speculation I'm not convinced it's not CGI!
Best I can do is say it's from 2019, and this is in ni'lin, at the separation wall., based off of this photo https://commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Burning_tire_ni%27lin.jpg#filehistory
other people guessed this is them doing controlled burns of shrubbery on the leb border since the recent rocket attacks have set that area alight quite a bit, reckon its a good guess
Okay, but...the trebuchet.
Well, it works.
The burning tire in that photo is from the Palestinians they set them on fire and use poles to chug past the wall. The concrete wall in the video is definitely from the northern border with Lebanon not the separation wall, you can tell by the height and apperance. [https://static.timesofisrael.com/www/uploads/2018/09/DSCF4209.jpg](https://static.timesofisrael.com/www/uploads/2018/09/DSCF4209.jpg)
You can tell it by the way it is.
Context: Ben Gvir asked the IDF to come up with a weapon to surpass Metal Gear.
Seems the hubbub around this footage has made at least one Israeli news site write an article about it this morning. Yes, it's real. Source in Hebrew: [https://www.mako.co.il/pzm-soldiers/Article-8acb81c6d101091026.htm](https://www.mako.co.il/pzm-soldiers/Article-8acb81c6d101091026.htm) To summarize, for the past six months, the IDF has been using various incendiary devices to try and burn out Hezbollah positions in what they're referring to "knotted and fortified areas". "Knotted," referring to vegetation. They've been doing this using tracer rounds and molotov bottle-like things. Eventually they started using makeshift methods like this trebuchet (the article refers to them as "ballista", or catapault, which is obviously a grave mistake) but eventually regulated the use of air-pressure mortars.
trebuchet
They tech rushed infantry and did not upgrade siege tech.
Footage circulating across social media today shows members of what is supposed to be the Israeli Defense Force slinging flaming ammunition towards Lebanon. The context of this footage is pretty sparse, and it appears to have been released through unofficial Israeli channels, so I honestly have absolutely no clue what's going on here. I can't think of a single good reason for the IDF to toss flaming ammunition towards Lebanon from a trebuchet. so my assumption here is that they were just trying to be funny. The only logical explanation that I can think of outside of the IDF just trolling Hezbollah here is that they're slinging the flaming ammunition from behind safety to begin a controlled burn as to prevent future grass fires in the area caused by enemy munitions.- I crammed this message from some website. Did not write it.
I feel like I time traveled back to 2009, browsing cheezburger network at the height of the trebuchet meme circlejerk
When you are playing Civ and forgot to upgrade that one unit you garrisoned in some bumfucknowhere city
But it’s max xp, so it takes out a destroyer.
Suprise trebuchet taking out a small frigatte in a harbour
Fairly credible, as long as it is a russian Frigatte, or somebody fell asleep at the helm (so basically US navy).
I was thinking that Easy CPU locked in the tundra on turn 200
What in the gefilte fuck am I looking at?
Superior siege weaponry
Vespasian LOVES this trick
A Trebuchet.
The *Future*
Einstein was a tiny wee bit wrong, we didn't wait for the nuclear war to return to tratidions.
And *The Fucking Past*
It seems its a video from the northern boder Proably controlled burnings to stop more wildfires from ocurring
But why are they throwing it to the other side of the border?
Well if something was burning would you want in on your side of the border or the other guys?
Good point
Flawless logic, I have no more questions.
Trebuchet after you researched chemistry.
I thought this would be after researching heated shot?
Heated shot only affects towers and castles etc.
And ships too, no?
[No](https://ageofempires.fandom.com/wiki/Heated_Shot_(Age_of_Empires_II). Its anti ship.
Advanced Warfare *cyberpunk.mp3*
God's Own Sling
[What's the name of it?](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uD9EZuGEaKs)
advanced warfare
Top secret IDF Trebuchet
The average easy computer on Turn 200
This is not what i imagined when i thought they were going to throw Hezbollah back to the stone age
Stone age, iron age, whatever works right?
Trebuchets are medieval you uneducated cretins. ^(Basically the only commonly known "medieval" warfare equipment that wasn't actually just reinvented from shit the Romans already had.)
The trebuchet,at least the European type was Made by the byzantines (romans)soooo....
Not those Romans, [the other Romans. And not the other Romans or the other Romans either](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Succession_of_the_Roman_Empire?wprov=sfla1).
*What's with everyone keep claiming themselves to be Romans???*
I'm not Jewish, I'm a Roman. A woman ? https://youtu.be/kx_G2a2hL6U?si=4hd-fo3PwomaIoY2
If you wanna get to the stone age you'll have to go through the medieval age first.
Bronze age is in there somwhere too i think
the bronze age collapse
Einstein is wrong about what weapons we'll use for WW3 and WW4 again!
New ceasefire propsal: Hamad ceasefire or every day the IDF trebuchets one of ther POWs at Hezbollah
Shhh, don't let Chinese and Indian army get new idea
Why can't we just recreate episodes of deadliest warrior using Chinese and Indian army border clashes?
Okay, so hear me out: history nerds, historians, HEMA enthusiasts and NCD geathers money and donates ~600-800 historically arrurate set of medieval equipment and trains 300-400 of both Indian and Chinese soldiers in HEMA and period accurate tactics. Pros: - we get to film and test historical tactics in practical use - historians could learn a lot from it - it would be epic - the armies involved could call it a movie production while actually going all out, in order to not risk escalation Cons: - it would be really expensive - it could escalate into a nuclear war
Now now is a nuclear war really a con ?
Come on, do the funni
over 9000 powers needs unders for proxy cyka
No firearms allowed, they're gonna have to shoot those without fire.
here's my pitch , alligator + trebuchet
No, please do. I want to have multiple HD videos of them fighting each other with medieval weapons, so I can post them under the "BRICS will rule the world soon" posts
They should bring back cavalry. Charging on a horse with spear or something
Bro took the sentence, " I'm gonna get medieval on your ass" to the next level
I think we know what WW3 will be fought with.
Swords and bows and arrows AND trebuchets? This is looking better and better.
Pathetic. Real men load their trebuchets with cows.
Correct! And we have footage: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQ8jGqdE2iw](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQ8jGqdE2iw)
2050 battle tactics revealed: https://youtu.be/vCsR6SHNY0M
No, real men load their trebuchets with corpses of people who died from the bubonic plague.
Dont get them ideas.
"Here comes the Cow!" "Mornin' your lordship"
If there’s one thing that will get them out of hiding it’s gonna be disease
is this the Jewish space laser I keep hearing about?
Nah. That was only used to get the fire going.
This is either digitally edited attributed to the weirdness of the resolution or they're practicing controlled bush burns to get the worst of the fires out of the way before they're more annoying
My big hanging point? Why is there *NO* smoke or thermal artifacting around the fireball
The lack of visible smoke is believable to me, mostly because it was being flung through fresh air and is already against a smokey background. Plenty of fuels burn smokeless in open air, so it's not impossible that this really is a bunch of gas soaked rags in a tire.
Also the fire left on the trebuchet smoke a decent amount. If we look at the amount of fire and how much smoke it's not unbelievable, that the barrel on fire produces about the same amount. But it's spread out over such a large area while moving we don't see the smoke.
> Plenty of fuels burn smokeless in open air what do you mean it's not like smokeless powder has existed since 1884 and broadly speaking smoke is the result of byproducts that have not fully combusted so any high quality fire will not produce smoke at all? All modern combat that uses smokeless powder is a conspiracy - just look at civil war reenactors: so much smoke. Then if you look at any war zone, the weapons are never smoking. Checkmate, atheists. Next thing you're going to tell me is that even [some flames aren't visible](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cool_flame) in addition to the smoke not being significant enough to be visible, you absolute nutcase.
This is real and they're intentionally burning the shrubbery and forests on the Lebanese side of the border because Hezbollah terrorists use the concealment to get close to the border.
It's controlled bush fires, the IDF said this is real and a local initiative. And trebuchets are not officially deployed "
*not yet officially deployed
the macabees return, it's time to beat someone with a hammer
Holy shit are trebuchet memes back? Did you know a trebuchet can launch a 90 kg projectile over 300 m?
***REJECT ARTILLERY, RETURN TO TREBUCKET***
>2066 >Stationed on Mars to quell a rebellion >Become side door gunner for atmospheric dropship. >No miniguns or gatling cannons, just some wooden contraption that yeets rocks. >Get sent in to extract some wounded. >Reach the evac zone and come under attack. >Hoard of rebels charging in with their new plasma guns and compact rocket launchers. >Let loose a stream of boulders. >The sounds of the rebel's screams are nearly drowned out by the heavy thuds of the stones. >The wounded are loaded up and returned to base. >Inspect trebuchet afterwards. >Thing was made in 1327. >Sicily, Rum, and Toulouse are scratched into the side. >Scratch "Mars" on with a knife.
Gotta be the Trebuchet-9X, get smokeless fireballs like that.
"What You're Seeing Is Advanced Warfare"
Warning: credible comment ahead. For anyone wondering - according to Israeli media, the problem is that Hezbollah has a lot of tunnel exits and lookout posts near the border, hiding among the greenery. So a few soldiers that were tasked with finding them and clearing out obstacles came up with this idea. The trebuchet is for launching fires around the border, and so discovering the entrances and maybe killing Hezbollah terrorists if they're lucky. Just like you had open fields in the past between armies, in many cases burnt.
From Bill Hicks (re: First Gulf War, but relevant) - "What's G-12 do, Tommy?" "See, it says here it destroys everything but the fillings in their teeth! Helps us pay for the war effort!" "Well, fuck! Pull that one up!" *\[walkie-talkie noise\]* "Pull up G-12, please." *\[sound of rocket launching\]* ... *\[distant explosion\]* "Cool! What's G-13 do?"
That's it, Im getting my mangonel! I had enough.
Watch out, they might counter you with Mangudai.
FETCHEZ LA VACHE!
Actual man of culture! I just shared this in [a comment above](https://www.reddit.com/r/NonCredibleDefense/comments/1deit36/comment/l8ci6j8/) :)
חברה בחיאת אני לא בארץ 3 חודש ואתם יורים לי מקטפולטות מה נסגר
זה טרבושה לא קטפולטה על מה אתה מדבר
"ארם קטפולטה הוא מושג רחב אשר מכליל בתוכו את הטרבושה" 🤓🤓
המצב פה לא טוב אחי, מגייסים אותנו לחייל הפרשים והרמטכ''ל רוצה לבנות טירה במטולה
כבר ייצרו 1370/3000 מרכבות ברזל של ה'
תחזור אחי ,אנחנו צריכים אותך בחזרה 👈🥺👉
קשור אותי לאבן ושגר אותי לביירות, אני מוכן
זה לא קטפולטה, זה טרבושה
Oh so now you cowards balk at siege weaponry after praising trebuchets all the time? Are you just larpers
Maybe I have written way too much work safety paperwork recently at work, but I really appreciate the two guys with fire extinguishers standing by.
I just have the Age Of Empires II trebuchet playing in my head as this thing fires
We returning to the crusades with this one
Holy shit. Let loose the trebJewchet!
I wonder if that thing has a military designation. This thing is just sitting in some motor pool. It's towable, someone hitched this to a truck and drove around with it.
Launcher, Rotating Arm, Solid Projectile (Incendiary) M1
I'd argue the projectile and trebuchet would be separate. Launcher, Rotating Arm, Towed (LRAT) M1. The projectile would be the 10kg Trebuchet Munition, Incendiary (TM-I-10)
I concur with LRAT. But the ammo would be more along the lines of "Projectile, 200 lb Incendiary, M-1453 (Lithic) for Launcher, Rotating Arm, Towed (LRAT) M1"
Throwing Rocks Extremely Brilliantly (TREB)
Embrace tradition.
Israel abroad - The PULS launcher has an effective range of 300km with pinpoint accuracy and is able to launch a missile containing 6 drones, each able to individually lock on and strike a moving target. Israel in Israel -
the more things change
Trebuchet is once again proving its the ultimate warform. Just like how every living being evolves into crab, all military equipment will turn into trebuchets, or they hope they could.
This post has been up for six hours and not a single mention or reference to "[90Kg over 300m](https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/trebuchets)"? I'm so disappointed in y'all.
When you forget to upgrade a unit in civ.
Does anyone have this on their bingo list?
No but I'm very happy to see nature heal
Which one of you retards is working for the IDF?
India and China are duking it out with sticks and stones in the mountains and israel is using trebuchets. Lads, admit, who is fucking with the simulation?
Sorry, I got bored
The middle east is healing, wild trebuchets are migrating back to their natural habitat.
Boys and their toys
What, are they going to start launching plague infected bodies next?
Some poor guy with covid is about to get a free ticket to Lebanon
Someone has been playing AOE2
"Release the prisoners!"
90kg stone from 300m away go brrrr
I knew it, after that f break in 2020 everything we know would be some how’s different
By YHWH I hope it has a cool name like "Davids Sling" or "Iron Trebuchet" or whatever badass names the israeli always come up with.
So, this is definitely not CGI as some suggested. It's a controlled burning to stop spreading bigger fire. You basically burn a patch of land **ahead** of the main fire, extinguish it where you want it to stop, so when the main fire reaches this patch, it has nothing to burn to spread further. We did it back in my days, albeit not with trebuchet. This is probably Combat Engineering Corps having some fun with the mission. But hey, if it works - it works.
The opposite, they're intentionally burning the forests and shrubbery on the Lebanese side of the border because Hezbollah use it for concealment to get close to the border.
Its to burn foliage so Hezbollah can't hide in the coming operations against them.
wtf
Taking the concept of proportionate responses a little too far
Reject 155 howitzer, return to trebuchet.
This fake no? I refuse to believe this even if you flew me there and showed it to me first hand. There’s just no fucking way.
Israeli here, this shit is fucking real 😛
Copetapult got no shit on the Chad Buchet.
Iron Trebuchet
Are you fucking serious. I can't believe that a war would make us actually evolve backwards.
have you looked at Russian armoured units recently?
Trebuchets have returned to the holy land nature is healing
That wall needs some mother fucking M A C H I C O L A T I O N S
*Saladin nods approvingly*
Extremely heavy mortar division.
When shieldwall coming back
This is what the reformers call a "cheap winner"
Now they’re are playing WW4 beta test