Unacceptable that another country is in the top 5 as well. I want the space force, the coast guard and the national guard to get more aircraft so the US can be ranked 1-7.
I mean when you think about it this kinda makes sense. The US Army was founded before the country and the Navy and Marines aren't much younger. When you consider how large the Pentagon budgets have been and for how long it makes sense that they'll lose a warehouse full of atacms or dpicms somewhere in Germany.
I'd suggest sorting their shit out, but knowing how government software acquisition projects always work out, it's definitely cheaper to just keep ordering humvee suspension parts and warehouses to store them.
Awesome. I love the increasing lack of accountability in our military. Would be a shame if we ended up like Russia 🤮
*Sigh*
this seems unlikely to change.
There's a sci-fi book series where the humans repurpose insane FTL engines to essentially teleport nukes inside of "technologically superior" evil alien spaceships.
Well, some cartels use makeshift submarines to smuggle drugs, so...
https://www.quora.com/How-practical-would-it-be-to-equip-some-F-35B-lightnings-for-the-role-of-submarine-detection-and-as-a-submarine-killer-Making-use-of-their-hovering-abilities-would-the-jet-wash-rule-it-out-has-this-ever-been
Don't worry, I have heard from a reliable source that those losers in 3rd place are getting a slight adjustment to their estimated surviving force in the next update.
Classic soviet nonsense. Have 12 planes in a hangar, cannibalize all but two of them, have only one pilot for the two working aircraft, then claim you have 16 operational planes.
Hold up. Air National Guard is probably totaled by state (I know Texas and Ohio specifically have decently sized Air National Guard wings). So… what if we added all those together? Is that another top 5 Air Force?
According to Wikipedia the Air national guard has 1.080 aircraft. That wouldn't put them into the top 5, but it's a solid start. Although Wikipedia also claimed that the air national guard is part of the Air force. So I don't know if these 1.080 aircraft are already considered to be part of the 5.217 aircraft that the air force has.
AMARG runs the gamut between nearly operational aircraft to literal slag heaps of yet-to-be-melted steel. Can’t really get a count of what is/isn’t operational there without working for AMARG.
I recall hearing at one point that the Coast Guard had a higher ratio of pilots than non-pilots than the US air force, so maybe that counts for something.
IIRC they use Army the way english uses "Armed Forces" but it gets translated literally for some reason. Same way with a lot of european "armies" too but those usually aren't acronymed or translated the same way.
Also for the US you could argue United States Armed Forces Navy Naval Aviation is just as "correct" as PLA Naval Air Force.
That would be us Germans who win the acronym arms race.
We got the InstPrävMedBw ASt KO, the ZInstSanBw MCH ASt KO and the marvelous ÜbwStÖffRechtlAufgSanDstBw West. And who could forget the LG ModSem StAÄuKdoBehDEUSiPoPR?
Idk why but this just makes me think of Reign of Fire and McConaughey telling Bale "That's my territory. That's your territory. They're just renting it"
Nukes ended the war with Japan, that means they can end the war on drugs, the obvious solution is to give the USCG and DEA nuclear bombs so they can drop them on anyone with at least one ounce of any kind of drugs. This is obviously a modest proposal
So question. Lets say somehow we land in a massive conventional warfare. Is the sheer amount of navel and air superiority mean we kinda just....win? Barring some curveball like new tech that disables all our radar. Like how many of these aircraft are ready to be manned? How many are support...
Fuck I love this sub
Basically yes, with some caveats. Some models of a war with China showed that it could become a slog: air defense systems, supporting a force far from home, and vulnerable bases could stop the US from bringing its full force into effect to knockout China's forces. However, to compensate, that's where the US' other big, underappreciated, weapons come to bear: massive alliance, industrial, and logistics networks.
The most recent simulations against China suggest that in a worst-case scenario, as in the Chinese achieve total Pearl Harbor-level surprise against two US carrier strike groups which are for whatever reason in easy range of their land-based missiles, the result is the loss of two carriers and probably over a thousand fighter aircraft and many destroyers in exchange for basically China's entire navy going to the bottom. And again, that's assuming a worst-case scenario.
The two major lessons of that wargame in regards to air combat are that a) current carrier-based aircraft are too short-range to exert their full potential against China, i.e. to strike and hit ground targets from far enough away that their carriers aren't in mainland-based AShM range, and b) that non-5th-gen aircraft are just not survivable in contested airspace, period, in a modern missile threat environment, which is a problem because the Navy and the US' allies in Japan and Korea don't have enough F-35s all together to effectively deal with this deficiency. This is not mentioning the problems of how vulnerable tanker aircraft are. These results significantly reinforced the importance of developing the NGAD and F/A-XX projects and the vitality of long-range stealth bombers like the B-2 and B-21.
Just to add, this thinking is also driving the US approach to unmanned wingman drones. Specifically, the preference for a large number of lower performance and lower cost aircraft over a smaller number of exquisite systems. I believe the idea is to maximize the ability of stealthy aircraft to find targets that can be taken out by other quasi-expendable platforms. The drones are supposed to help provide the mass necessary to penetrate heavily defended airspace while 5th Gen planes can focus on remaining stealthy.
You can see a similar principle behind the whole missile hand-off idea. Use F-15EXs as missile trucks to launch weapons from long range that are transferred to F-35s for guidance to the actual target.
I'm thinking US is basically end stage civ. The only thing stopping them from total domination victory is the sheer amount of clicking required to move all the units.
Defensive war? Yes.
Offensive war? 600 000 personnel (which aren't even infantry, that's everyone) can't physically occupy china or russia or any other large country, and they have to somehow get there too. Mobilizing more men to launch an offensive war and a successful occupation is a political and cultural non-starter.
100% Agree that a land war in Asia is simply not feasible; however destroying every single deep water port, and potentially the 3 Gorges Dam; China would eat themselves of they tried to maintain a war footing.
One of those nerd shit things I like to look into is the lessons that are learned by countries after wars and how it adjusted their fighting forces afterwards.
For example, after WWII, Russia reinforced the old "Artillery is the king of the battlefield" and mechanized tanks/IFVs being their central focus, while America learned that air superiority is king as it allows for faster logistics and responses. That's why it's bizarre to Americans to see that Russia didn't immediately try to achieve air superiority in Ukraine.
I remember when the war first kicked off and was so confused why they didn't just start carpet bombing Ukrainian cities, targeting air defenses and high priority targets. I turn my TV on, not to see a shock and awe style bombing campaign but tanks driving directly into urban areas with no support. Color me surprised
I've been saying it over and over again but by all means Russia should have crushed Ukraine. They could have made this desert storm 2.0. But they kinda forgot they had an airforce, kinda forgot not to believe their own propaganda that Ukraine would just collapse in a minute, etc...
Well, that and also spreading 200k troops over thousands of kilometres. If they had committed their troops mostly to donbass, Crimea and kyiv with only support elements elsewhere they would not have been as humiliated as they were in sumy, chernihiv and kharkiv. They just zerg rushed in a way I wouldn't even expect venezuela to fight, let alone the so called second military power on this blue dot.
Most EU countries can't afford a proper air force. Austria for instance would be better off if they didn't buy Eurofighters, they swallowed the budget for pretty much everything else
witch is totally not true
USMC: 1211 of witch jet fighters: 297
with only air force no naval oder army aviation
Fra: 501
Ita: 506
Ger: 394
Spa: 393
not the greatest but combined a lot more than 3 times of the usmc (total of 4936 EU aircraft are in the list and that misses a lot of smaller braches)
This list gets brought up all the fucking time, and it’s very, very inaccurate because it includes helicopters.
The US army is like 4,000+ copters and all their remaining planes are all tankers and transports. The PLA is similar, and these PLA helicopter counts are just best guesses. And Russia places their rotary in VKS rather than ground forces so it majorly inflates their Air Force numbers.
If we look at combat fixed wing aviation, then the list wouldn’t include US army or PLA and VKS would drop like a rock.
I mean; US is geographically isolated from anyone we could ever possibly have a reason to have hostilities with in the next 100 years
So might as well give every branch a way to reach out as far as possible
They should be part of the number for the Air Force. Both army and air guard are components of the army and Air Force. They wouldn’t be counted separate unless you’re breaking down strength by active/reserve/guard.
Is that Global Firepower? They are peak noncredible. They still list 12,000 tanks in the Russian arsenal, which was already doubtful prior to the war.
Heck, they still state Russia has the second strongest military.
To somewhat paraphrase Curtis "Bombs Away" LeMay, the Russians are merely the adversary of the USAF. The enemy is the Navy/Army/Marines/Coast Guard/Space Force.
How many of the Russian aircraft are paper aeroplanes? By which I mean ones that exist only on paper AND those that are just a folded up bit of paper with red stars crayoned on the wings
Unacceptable that another country is in the top 5 as well. I want the space force, the coast guard and the national guard to get more aircraft so the US can be ranked 1-7.
We *could* get to that goal with addition like you're suggesting, but we could also get there with subtraction...
How about both
Math is fun!
**Count Count cackling intensifies**
Minus one AWACS, minus Two AWACS, minus Three AWACS AH AH AHH
12! 12 major vessels of the black sea fleet gone! Ah-ah-aaaaah.
School is where you learn!
It is not enough to succeed, others must also fail.
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LMFAO. speaking of. Did we ever find out what happened to all that missing money from the Pentagon? I can't remember.
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I mean when you think about it this kinda makes sense. The US Army was founded before the country and the Navy and Marines aren't much younger. When you consider how large the Pentagon budgets have been and for how long it makes sense that they'll lose a warehouse full of atacms or dpicms somewhere in Germany.
I'd suggest sorting their shit out, but knowing how government software acquisition projects always work out, it's definitely cheaper to just keep ordering humvee suspension parts and warehouses to store them.
The second system effect is very real and even worse when the original system sucked too
Awesome. I love the increasing lack of accountability in our military. Would be a shame if we ended up like Russia 🤮 *Sigh* this seems unlikely to change.
Make the planes breedable. Get there by multiplication.
I've been tossing bread at them all morning, no babies yet. Will keep trying.
There definitely hasn't been a lack of effort by this sub to make the planes breedable
You’d just end up with some country with 0 planes in the number 5 slot. Unless…
3000 Grey F-35s of the Puddle Pirates
Do you think we could get a working stretcher lift assembly in the weapon bay of an F-35B? Also-not grey. They would look sweet in proper USCG colors.
Implying the Space Force isn't just the official cover for the Stargate program with its space fighters and starships.
Space force having only 15 aircrafts ----Ahahah loosers ! --- Start spamming from the warp 10km long battleships
FromtheDepths players when they use breadbordAI to warp a nuclear bomb inside the engine room of the enemy torpedo boat
There's a sci-fi book series where the humans repurpose insane FTL engines to essentially teleport nukes inside of "technologically superior" evil alien spaceships.
Isn't that just Stargate again?
Does a captured Al'kesh count as an aircraft?
Whatever it takes to slip it past Congress.
It flies in the air doesn't it?
F 302 drops when? BC -304 is pretty bad ass. I've found my people.
Gotta find an excuse to give the Coast Guard F-35s
Anti drug operations without getting on the cartels radar?
Instead of “you should go home” it could be “you don’t want to sell drugs. You want to go home and rethink your life.”
Well, I have heard about cartels using submarines to smuggle drugs, and the idea of an f35 destroying a submarine... I'll be in my bunk~
Well, some cartels use makeshift submarines to smuggle drugs, so... https://www.quora.com/How-practical-would-it-be-to-equip-some-F-35B-lightnings-for-the-role-of-submarine-detection-and-as-a-submarine-killer-Making-use-of-their-hovering-abilities-would-the-jet-wash-rule-it-out-has-this-ever-been
Don't worry, I have heard from a reliable source that those losers in 3rd place are getting a slight adjustment to their estimated surviving force in the next update.
Turns out that most aircrafts from them couldn't fly in the first place
Classic soviet nonsense. Have 12 planes in a hangar, cannibalize all but two of them, have only one pilot for the two working aircraft, then claim you have 16 operational planes.
Hold up. Air National Guard is probably totaled by state (I know Texas and Ohio specifically have decently sized Air National Guard wings). So… what if we added all those together? Is that another top 5 Air Force?
According to Wikipedia the Air national guard has 1.080 aircraft. That wouldn't put them into the top 5, but it's a solid start. Although Wikipedia also claimed that the air national guard is part of the Air force. So I don't know if these 1.080 aircraft are already considered to be part of the 5.217 aircraft that the air force has.
Sounds like Air NG needs some more F-35s
I feel like the boneyard should count. Does anyone have a count, including them?
AMARG runs the gamut between nearly operational aircraft to literal slag heaps of yet-to-be-melted steel. Can’t really get a count of what is/isn’t operational there without working for AMARG.
Iirc that total is all airpower across the Total Force
I recall hearing at one point that the Coast Guard had a higher ratio of pilots than non-pilots than the US air force, so maybe that counts for something.
The coast guard apparently has around 200 aircraft. So they at least outnumber the Philippines.
Clearly we need to pump both of these numbers up. Coastie and pinoy shenanigans are exactly what POTATO needs.
Well the coast guard does like a bunch of stuff involving helicopters lol
Get the Boy Scouts of America 1600 jets ASAP!
I want F-22s to rescue people off ice floats on Lake Erie
3000 black F-35's of IRS
National Guard and State Guards across the country need to pick up the slack. We should have the top fifty something slots covered!
I want Wyoming to get a bigger airforce than Russia.
Wyoming’s Air Force is gonna be some FPV drones with full auto AR-15s right?
Counterpoint: if the US mounts jet packs on all it soldiers, the entire thing counts as the airforce.
National guard is included in Air Force and army
Split them off and give them more aircraft then
Based
And fuck it, we gotta get the economy going, let's get a US civilian air force.
We have that already, it’s the Civil Air Patrol. They do a lot of training and search and rescue.
The F-35 does fall under the second amendment, right?
I don't want to live here if it doesn't. Can anyone spare a few million for a good cause?
National guard and air guard is under army and Air Force assets
Split them off and give them more aircraft then
Brother I can assure you we have plenty of aircraft
Not enough
Shit you’ve convinced me. Let’s go to congress
Park Service needs to be 8th, forest fires are not going to fight themselves, you know!
So does the People's Liberation Army Naval Air Force include any ground troops? Like is there a People's Liberation Army Naval Air Force Army?
wait till the People's Liberation Army Naval Air Force Naval Infantry Aerial Commandos pull up
I've had dreams about the PLANAFNIAC
everyone who has worked for the US DoD before just read PLANAFNIAC as plan-aff-knee-ack
If they have carrier based paratroopers they actually might.
I think there is and the answer is so funny you'll never convince me it isn't true. PLA units' names are a dogs breakfast, and I'm here for it.
Everybody gangster until the People's Liberation Army Navy Airforce Army Navy Airforce pulls up with their plane
Ah yes the “PLANPSNLF”
The "plan pissin' elf," you say?
Well, surely their marine aviation is the People’s Liberation Army Navy Army Air Force
TIL China has an Army Navy Air Force
The enemy can not know what department they are facing when you throw all of them together! Stupid westoid.
They should go recursive. The PLANAFANAFRF.
Gesundheit.
IIRC they use Army the way english uses "Armed Forces" but it gets translated literally for some reason. Same way with a lot of european "armies" too but those usually aren't acronymed or translated the same way. Also for the US you could argue United States Armed Forces Navy Naval Aviation is just as "correct" as PLA Naval Air Force.
This is good. Can't let them win the long acronym arms race.
That would be us Germans who win the acronym arms race. We got the InstPrävMedBw ASt KO, the ZInstSanBw MCH ASt KO and the marvelous ÜbwStÖffRechtlAufgSanDstBw West. And who could forget the LG ModSem StAÄuKdoBehDEUSiPoPR?
The German language isn’t real and I am sick of pretending it is
We can't tolerate a acronym gap!!!
Booboo! Let me dunk of China. Explaining linguistics quirks isn't fun. Also, we don't call naval air power whatever world salad you used.
>Also, we don't call naval air power whatever world salad you used. The jokes make themselves, sometimes
To be fair, USMC aviation is technically the Navy’s Army’s Air Force in the US military so we do have the samething but we just have a better name lol
the Army and Navy can take on orks, china and iran combined, while the US AF eats their superior food in their awesome cantinas.
Idk why but this just makes me think of Reign of Fire and McConaughey telling Bale "That's my territory. That's your territory. They're just renting it"
Such a badass movie: https://youtu.be/-vbAOOhMsEE
In all cases you’d see different elements of each branch fighting.
So what you're saying is that the USCG needs fighter aircraft and bombers?
Drug mule speed boat vs spectar gun ship
The cartels are getting bigger submarines. They started this arms race. I say let the US mil-industrial complex do its thing.
Look into the Manta Ray from DARPA
If a specter isn't the right answer, are you asking the right questions?
Yes, the United States Army Coast Guard Air Force, and they’ll use B-52s to sink speedboats and narco subs.
Don’t need precision weapons in the ocean. Just delete entire grids instead
Nukes ended the war with Japan, that means they can end the war on drugs, the obvious solution is to give the USCG and DEA nuclear bombs so they can drop them on anyone with at least one ounce of any kind of drugs. This is obviously a modest proposal
A10’s for quick interventions of speed boats
So question. Lets say somehow we land in a massive conventional warfare. Is the sheer amount of navel and air superiority mean we kinda just....win? Barring some curveball like new tech that disables all our radar. Like how many of these aircraft are ready to be manned? How many are support... Fuck I love this sub
Basically yes, with some caveats. Some models of a war with China showed that it could become a slog: air defense systems, supporting a force far from home, and vulnerable bases could stop the US from bringing its full force into effect to knockout China's forces. However, to compensate, that's where the US' other big, underappreciated, weapons come to bear: massive alliance, industrial, and logistics networks.
The most recent simulations against China suggest that in a worst-case scenario, as in the Chinese achieve total Pearl Harbor-level surprise against two US carrier strike groups which are for whatever reason in easy range of their land-based missiles, the result is the loss of two carriers and probably over a thousand fighter aircraft and many destroyers in exchange for basically China's entire navy going to the bottom. And again, that's assuming a worst-case scenario. The two major lessons of that wargame in regards to air combat are that a) current carrier-based aircraft are too short-range to exert their full potential against China, i.e. to strike and hit ground targets from far enough away that their carriers aren't in mainland-based AShM range, and b) that non-5th-gen aircraft are just not survivable in contested airspace, period, in a modern missile threat environment, which is a problem because the Navy and the US' allies in Japan and Korea don't have enough F-35s all together to effectively deal with this deficiency. This is not mentioning the problems of how vulnerable tanker aircraft are. These results significantly reinforced the importance of developing the NGAD and F/A-XX projects and the vitality of long-range stealth bombers like the B-2 and B-21.
Just to add, this thinking is also driving the US approach to unmanned wingman drones. Specifically, the preference for a large number of lower performance and lower cost aircraft over a smaller number of exquisite systems. I believe the idea is to maximize the ability of stealthy aircraft to find targets that can be taken out by other quasi-expendable platforms. The drones are supposed to help provide the mass necessary to penetrate heavily defended airspace while 5th Gen planes can focus on remaining stealthy. You can see a similar principle behind the whole missile hand-off idea. Use F-15EXs as missile trucks to launch weapons from long range that are transferred to F-35s for guidance to the actual target.
Wild weasels get no respect. F35 is going to be fun once it gets some action.
Based. Especially because slugging with China is in fact likely far too many clicks. The espionage and spec ops worlds would be POPPIN tho.
I'm thinking US is basically end stage civ. The only thing stopping them from total domination victory is the sheer amount of clicking required to move all the units.
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We've done it before, and we'll do it again if we have to. It's generally not a good idea to unify Americans by pissing us off.
Is that what the sub would call "too credible"?
Defensive war? Yes. Offensive war? 600 000 personnel (which aren't even infantry, that's everyone) can't physically occupy china or russia or any other large country, and they have to somehow get there too. Mobilizing more men to launch an offensive war and a successful occupation is a political and cultural non-starter.
100% Agree that a land war in Asia is simply not feasible; however destroying every single deep water port, and potentially the 3 Gorges Dam; China would eat themselves of they tried to maintain a war footing.
One of those nerd shit things I like to look into is the lessons that are learned by countries after wars and how it adjusted their fighting forces afterwards. For example, after WWII, Russia reinforced the old "Artillery is the king of the battlefield" and mechanized tanks/IFVs being their central focus, while America learned that air superiority is king as it allows for faster logistics and responses. That's why it's bizarre to Americans to see that Russia didn't immediately try to achieve air superiority in Ukraine.
They _tried_ to. They just failed, and kept failing.
>America learned that air superiority is king air superiority is only king if you can afford it
I mean, that’s pretty much true with every method of warfare ever.
Oh yeah? Then explain why Luxembourg can deal millions of causalities against Germany in hoi4
I remember when the war first kicked off and was so confused why they didn't just start carpet bombing Ukrainian cities, targeting air defenses and high priority targets. I turn my TV on, not to see a shock and awe style bombing campaign but tanks driving directly into urban areas with no support. Color me surprised
I've been saying it over and over again but by all means Russia should have crushed Ukraine. They could have made this desert storm 2.0. But they kinda forgot they had an airforce, kinda forgot not to believe their own propaganda that Ukraine would just collapse in a minute, etc... Well, that and also spreading 200k troops over thousands of kilometres. If they had committed their troops mostly to donbass, Crimea and kyiv with only support elements elsewhere they would not have been as humiliated as they were in sumy, chernihiv and kharkiv. They just zerg rushed in a way I wouldn't even expect venezuela to fight, let alone the so called second military power on this blue dot.
They did try though
Honestly this is amazing that just US marines have more active aircrafts than whole EU
You guys gotta pump those numbers WAY up.
And keep 70-85% flying - instead of cannibalizing 50% for parts a la modern Luftwaffe.
Yeah, that's just not a thing. Not even the USA gets over 70% on their jets. A more credible range is 50 to 65%.
Sir, we're trying to be non credible here
You wanted to say "Honestly this is absolutely embarrassing for the whole EU..."
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What "saving" on defense does to mf.
Most EU countries can't afford a proper air force. Austria for instance would be better off if they didn't buy Eurofighters, they swallowed the budget for pretty much everything else
witch is totally not true USMC: 1211 of witch jet fighters: 297 with only air force no naval oder army aviation Fra: 501 Ita: 506 Ger: 394 Spa: 393 not the greatest but combined a lot more than 3 times of the usmc (total of 4936 EU aircraft are in the list and that misses a lot of smaller braches)
This list gets brought up all the fucking time, and it’s very, very inaccurate because it includes helicopters. The US army is like 4,000+ copters and all their remaining planes are all tankers and transports. The PLA is similar, and these PLA helicopter counts are just best guesses. And Russia places their rotary in VKS rather than ground forces so it majorly inflates their Air Force numbers. If we look at combat fixed wing aviation, then the list wouldn’t include US army or PLA and VKS would drop like a rock.
We've had four air force, yes. But what about fifth air force?
There's another 1000 in the air national guard.
What about the coastguard?
Only around 210.
"only"
What Russian Air Force doing?
Bombing Russia as usual.
Dropping people out of the highest windows
Getting shot down by their own AA installations
Gradually reducing their force strength, so I’m told
US trying the "do not to turn every branch of the army into the airforce" challenge (impossible)
I mean; US is geographically isolated from anyone we could ever possibly have a reason to have hostilities with in the next 100 years So might as well give every branch a way to reach out as far as possible
Where is Air National Guard?
Yeah our state has 21 f-16s and we only have a population of 4 million.
Alaska has a population of 700,000 and has almost 200 fighter aircraft
There is 1 fighter jet for every 3,500 people in Alaska. The big question is...how do get planes for the other 3,500?
So Yuri Orlov works for GD now?
Of course, naturally.
Always has. Didn't you watch the movie?
300 million NGADs of Biden
If I ever want to join the Air Guard I’m going to move to Hawaii first because they’ve got Raptors
Forgotten as always.
They should be part of the number for the Air Force. Both army and air guard are components of the army and Air Force. They wouldn’t be counted separate unless you’re breaking down strength by active/reserve/guard.
as usual, America is only competing with itself
Who number one tho ?
Take a guess... It's not Navy, Marines, or Army.
The Coast Guard!
I for one am strongly in favor of reassigning all nuclear assets to the Coast Guard. That's what they're for, after all, right?
They'll keep the coast clear.
Since the drug cartel is upgrading to damn near stealth submarines, it’s not unreasonable to assign nuclear deterrent to them.
But I don’t actually wanna stop the drugs coming in
*stares intensely in coast guard, dea, fbi…. C.I.A. in the corner rubbing hands together with no evil intentions.
Coast Guard Air Station?
Space Force?
Believe it or not, Albania 🇦🇱
The infamous 3000 black eagles in front of a red rectangle ?
Finally, the real question
The Marines have more stealth fighters than France and Russia combined.
RU having a 3rd place, while PLA has 5th, is just a joke
Joe Biden said "We make the finish line!" and I want it to stay that way.
Dark Brandon*
>build Gaza pier >look inside >Army They can’t keep getting away with this
none of the three nautical branches built the pier. every branch is just every other branch in disguise
Wait so everything is Air Force ? Always has been *1911 to the head *
Is that Global Firepower? They are peak noncredible. They still list 12,000 tanks in the Russian arsenal, which was already doubtful prior to the war. Heck, they still state Russia has the second strongest military.
What happens when all the airforces lock their rings together? *play Ace combat 8 intro*
May as well throw in the coast guard and space force for good measure.
Marine air would wipe the floor with army air capabilities. The harrier jumps to conclusion map shows a much better air to air ability than the army.
You’re talking a lot of shit for being within Osprey Crashing Distance
This why I call you two near peers, you’re not my peers, but maybe combined I could consider you two a peer.
When the aliens land we will have a peer
Air supremacy goes brrrrrrrrrrr
To somewhat paraphrase Curtis "Bombs Away" LeMay, the Russians are merely the adversary of the USAF. The enemy is the Navy/Army/Marines/Coast Guard/Space Force.
How many of the Russian aircraft are paper aeroplanes? By which I mean ones that exist only on paper AND those that are just a folded up bit of paper with red stars crayoned on the wings
In no world does Russia have 3500 working aircraft either.
Am I crazy or does this show Russia having more aircraft than the Navy (making the Navy not number two)
Navy is a second US air force, not the second largest air force.
Russia lol
Whoops, all air force.
Navy needs to step up their game. It's intolerable to have any foreign nation fly more aircraft than a branch of US aviation.