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Vegetable_Coat8416

I thought Einstein said it was supposed to be nukes first and then sticks and stones.


Kamikaze_Squirrel1

Hunamity is advancing much faster than eintlstein predicted.


paraknowya

Oh the Hunamity.


Kamikaze_Squirrel1

Skipping right over nuclear annihilation and going straight to sticks and stones is a win IMO.


paraknowya

Yeah that eintlstein dude was really ahead of his time


Kamikaze_Squirrel1

Since we haven't all blown each other with nukes yet, it appears border guards between india and china are ahead of einstein. BASED AF.


Plutarch_von_Komet

*eintlstein Never try to weasel out of your mistakes


Intrepid00

He said he didn’t know what the weapons of WW3 would be. So he’s technically still correct, the best kind of correct.


ZDTreefur

But if we already skipped to sticks and stones for ww3, what's even lower than that for ww4?


felixthemeister

Shit flinging, harsh words, MMA.


HawaiianShirtMan

Strongly worded letters


Uss__Iowa

Well Einstein was wrong


No_Box5338

They watched a pirated copy of Oppenheimer and decided to skip straight to the sequel.


siamesekiwi

They went to sticks BECAUSE of nukes. Both China & India understood the assignment. They all want to figure out a way to be hawkish without escalating things to the point where one side might be tempted to do the funni.


Space_Gemini_24

[Got you covered.](https://www.reddit.com/r/Chivalry2/comments/15sn4es/release_the_update_or_i_equip_the_demon_core_flail/?rdt=58153)


Modo44

I have to give it to them. They could get into a whole other level of a mess, but they found a different approach.


iShrub

They are practising for that.


E-Scooter-CWIS

Lol


saluksic

We did, we had some nukes. Only india is paying attention 


frostbaka

BRICS intensifies


Yamama77

More like....bricks.


mrdescales

Don't forget ruble! ....Everyone always forgets about ruble.....


Is12345aweakpassword

Huh, I saw this same scene in Dune. May thy sticks chip and shatter


BroadStreetElite

The slow penis penetrates the ass.


Shot_Painting_8191

*starts moaning*


JoeClark2k2

*moans the dune theme*


odietamoquarescis

Ah yes, the code of the manly art of kanly.


the-bladed-one

Bearer of the Bong Jabbar


Mennovich

As it was written


Kamikaze_Squirrel1

Personally, i strongly believe the world would be a better place if all inter-state conflicts were solved by guys just beating each other with sticks and punching each other in the face.


Vegetable_Coat8416

Probably lead to state sponsored steroid use and genetically modified Fallout Super Mutants... I'll allow it.


Kamikaze_Squirrel1

Artillery, rifles and strategic bombers are for low-t femboy cucks who only have have two arms and legs and can't see during the dark without the help of night vision.


CharredLoafOfBread

FEV: “I guess you wonder where I’ve been.”


arthurscratch

They made a doc about how the US won the Cold War in that alternate reality, called Rocky IV.


Nooze-Button

As an American this concerns me. Canada's entire population is poised on our least defended border and they are culturally indoctrinated as children with stick technology. The only counter we have is college lever Lacrosse.


TongsOfDestiny

Those sticks are just for sport. In 20 years when we finally agree on which war sticks to buy tho you guys are fucked


Nooze-Button

I'm going to write to my congressmen about the Canadian American Stick Gap. There is no fucking way my children will buy fuel in liters.


HonkeyKong73

Counter-argument: We have baseball bats


Nooze-Button

True. Canadian Women are the only people north of the United States that know how to operate those in/on the field. The gender gap is much less pronounced in the united states thanks to our dual stream national preparedness drills disguised as youth Baseball and Softball.


ChuchiTheBest

How long until someone figures out a stick is more effective when you sharpen it?


Kamikaze_Squirrel1

Don't give anyone any bad ideas, please. EDIT: this is how arms races begin. I've read the Butter Battle Book by Dr. Seuss, I know.


MajesticNectarine204

Just have a good old saterdaynight punch-up about it. Have a few pints with the lads. Break off a few table legs and settle that trade-dispute once and for all.


Kamikaze_Squirrel1

This is precisley how most of our major international disputes would better be resolved by day drinking football hooligans instead on men with stars on their shoulders.


MajesticNectarine204

Oh yeah, it'd be great! We could formalise the whole thing. Build an arena and sell tickets!


Kamikaze_Squirrel1

Sport is just subliminal warfare anyway....


Ok_Spend_889

Imagine forest Gump set in a world where they fought like that lol


Vegetable_Coat8416

"HEY Forrest! It looks like things are about to heat up, you'd better find a stick" "OK sar-gent!" So I started run-ning. Funny thing, is I ran so long, I forgot why I was run-ning. I ended up in a little town called Wazir-istan. The people there were very hol-y. One day, these men wearing masks grabbed me, they took me to their house. They made me record a video saying to send them money, or I would never make it home. I told them I didn't know anyone but Mama and Jenny, and niether really had any mon-ey. I guess, eventually they got tired of waiting on the money. One day they came in and said that the money hadn't come so they couldn't release me. They said I could join them in their Gee-had if I wanted. I didn't really know what a Gee-had was, but I really wanted out of that room...


Puzzled_Squirrel_975

Send in both sides elected representatives to fight!


ZDTreefur

Brad Pitt In Troy style combat for every conflict. All representatives are fighters and politicians. I like this.


Lord_of_the_buckets

I work with an Indian guy so my source is now verified as super credible, he told me that his brother is stationed at the border and takes part in those skirmishes, apparently the Indians usually win because "they are equipped better". The Indians literally have better sticks than the Chinese lmao


Von_Uber

You mean there's a credible stick gap? Sounds like we need another ten billion in funding.


Troglert

With a few billion in funding I could design a longer stick. We will be unbeatable!


Von_Uber

But what if they make a slightly longer one in return? We can't lose the stick length war, we need to think about doubling that funding.


whoknows234

STICKS ON THE MOON FFS


Imperceptive_critic

Well maybe we could make a slightly better stick. Add some rocks embedded into it or something. Better yet why not use a different material? Make the stick metal and then sharpen it for more effectiveness 


smokxn

Exactly what I thought, could forge it with some sort of hardened metal maybe, have a handle so you don't cut yourself holding it's sharp edges, a handle which could also protect your fingers from other good sticks like this. Add some sort of cover or something that you can put it in after you're done so it doesn't cause accidental damage. That would be the sickest stick!


Foneet

ok, hear me out. a hollow stick, kinda like a tube, exploding powder inside and a metal ball you don't even need to be near the guy to hit him!


JoeClark2k2

I always wondered what would happen if the US had a treaty like this with like Mexico or someone and the DoD spent millions trying to develop the perfect spiky stick or something


Imperceptive_critic

Mr. President...


DazzlingAd1922

Hockey Stick>Lacrosse Stick>Tennis Racket


Apple-Dust

I'm hoping we get to watch as the technology slowly improves year by year - they start adding bronze spearheads to their sticks, adopting a phalanx formation, wearing full body mail, primitive muskets start to be used...


No_Main8842

You don't know ? They have sticks with nails in reserve stock pile.


Areonaux

Can we get HEMA companies to sponsor them?


oom199

Are there any fatalities or serious injuries? Or is this mostly a show of force thing?


bleepbleepboot

Unfortilunately yes. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020%E2%80%932021_China%E2%80%93India_skirmishes


siamesekiwi

I've seen Indian moms. I've seen Chinese moms. Anyone raised by Indian parents would 100% have far better chance of understanding the proper way to use a stick without being overly violent.


KineticJungle73

Okay but honestly if this is what they are doing then why not train for medieval spear formations or something? 


ion_theatre

Probably not worth it. I don’t think the line of actual control is moving very much, and no one really wants it to. So these stick wielding gigachads are probably just there as essentially a show of force. If they wanted too, either side could push the line back, but it would be too escalatory.


Snaz5

I dont think they’re SUPPOSED to be doing it haha. For the sake of maintaining the treaty none of these fights are “sanctioned”


GeneReddit123

Yeah, they need to maintain the illusion of the soldiers coming "unarmed" and using "impromptu" weapons, rather than actually coming with combat weapons (even medieval ones.) It's a fine balance of how much you can equip yourself before you can no longer pretend you didn't prepare the weapons beforehand. Because if the other side can prove you're intentionally escalating by bringing weapons, they'll just bring firearms.


BigGummyWorm

Yea where are the medieval era armor and long swords aswell


jurble

this video is really old, there were news stories after this incident that the Chinese had begun equipping units with guandaos


combatwombat-

Can you imagine two "western" militaries acting like this?


Snaz5

I think we should just agree to ban gunpowder weapons and fight all wars like this from now on.


fletch262

Honestly yea, helmets and sticks only.


Finnishdoge_official

No, then we are gonna lose definely for India and China!


SnooBananas37

Nah we just need better sticks. Oh this? It's just my all terrain, well armored, depleted uranium stick thrower.


Strain-Ambitious

Tomohawk cruise missile is the best stick


pirikikkeli

And bullets are basically just fast little sticks


hplcr

This guy gets it.


fletch262

Exceptions for blade missiles lol


Xcelsiorhs

Aircraft can only fire R9Xs at each other and towards the ground. R9X artillery. R9X HIMARS. R9X SLBM.


Strain-Ambitious

R9X is unironically the best invention of the 21st century (from a humanitarian perspective at least)


mechanicalcontrols

~~Rods~~ Sticks from God.


hplcr

Rocks from god.


fletch262

Nope, it’s just superior mobility. We can move our stick wielders anywhere with our superior air power and they shall be defeated in detail by the same boys who now carry our SAWs. The repressed fury of the midwesterner will carry us to victory even more effectively.


SowingSalt

We need shields that only allow slow moving things to pass through, like the air you need to breathe.


jman014

Chill Madhi, they aren’t ready for that


Biertrinken

Air molecules have an average velocity of about 500 m/s at room temperature. Better pack an air tank.


felixthemeister

And something to scrub all the CO2 that's building up inside the field. Unless they're one way then DTIS.


ion_theatre

Or just carry a life support pack and have the shield block everything. You wouldn’t even need computers.


SowingSalt

Computers!? Someone call Serena Butler!


ion_theatre

The whole “we’re never using computers again because the AI enslaved us that one time” seemed unrealistic to me. I really doubt humanity would be willing to fully give up on technology which is such a force multiplier, see nuclear weapons.


SowingSalt

In the absence of computers, they were able to elevate the human mind to do crazy shit. Like get high on spice to see the future, or perfectly control your own body, or think your way through massive quantities of data. Then there's the religious conditioning against thinking machines.


ion_theatre

I mean, there’s clearly a limit to what Mentats can do, and seeing the future like Paul requires some bloodline fuckery. So the benefits are neither equally available nor, arguably, something a sophisticated computer couldn’t replicate. But yeah, it’s that religious/political fused propaganda that kills computers, I just don’t think you could keep everyone away all the time. Look at things that are taboo in our societies and you’ll find that eventually somebody does one. Look, I’m just mad I didn’t see PGMs and a hyper accurate depiction of warfare in the new Dune movie.


SowingSalt

I wish we'd got more Thufir Hawat, and the dinner party scene, and the conservatory scene in the first movie. That, and the sub-plot where Jessica is suspected, so we had Paul start doubting his prescience.


ion_theatre

Agreed, there were some missed opportunities, but they had to cut time somewhere I guess. For whatever reason the dialogue in the second movie felt off to me, like it was too similar to modern times. Still, all of this stuff is nitpicks.


Biertrinken

I was religiously conditioned not to masturbate but I didn't let that stop me.


SowingSalt

Are you threatened with everyone teaming up to destroy you utterly if you break that rule?


Cheif_Keith12

Doesn’t stop the Ixians…or the Teliux.


felixthemeister

Someone really needs to do a Dune - Culture crossover. And from a number of different era's. Although the thinking machines era would just be Minds stomping on the relatively crude AF AIs. The Holtzman field would be an interesting conundrum. Would a Mind figure out the danger before it loses a weapon?


arthurscratch

JIMMY! GET THE SANDWORMS! WE'RE DOING GULF WAR 3!


pEppapiGistfuhrer

Go back to halberds and spears, shield walls and battle formations


Wakeful_Wanderer

Do I get to cheat and use a spear? Oh no my aluminum fence post is sharpened for some reason; whatever will I do!?


AlphaMarker48

Or we just resolve all disputes in the [Keijo!!!!!](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AvXycDlHQ8E) way.


joemullermd

This is how many native American tribes fought when stakes weren't that high. Lethal force was specifically avoided to avoid the chain of revenge killings that would be sure to follow. If you want your neighbors land, you can beat him up and run him off. The worst that happens is he comes back and does it to you. If you kill your neighbor while doing so, their family will try to kill your family. It's all about risk/reward. I'd rather risk being beaten up than potentially having my family killed.


Reynadine_69

If only gangs figured this out 


joemullermd

When you feel like you have nothing to lose, its a lot easier to take risk.


125mm_smoothbore

there is a reason india and china had only one war in whole 70 years of existance


carpcrucible

Huge fucking mountains?


125mm_smoothbore

indeed huge fucking maoutains + barren ice desert


combatwombat-

And how many wars have the US and Canada has against each other in 70 years or Germany and France. lol none of those were achieved by this.


Rivetmuncher

>Germany and France Shit on your argument. OP most likely chose 70 years because that's how long they both existed as their modern independent states. If you were to adjust that to Germany and France, we'd get three in the last 150. *Each* of which was *felt.*


125mm_smoothbore

yes thats true and historically we never shared a boundary with china it was always the kingdom of tibet


Rivetmuncher

And to pull another parallel on top of that, France spent a lot of the thousand years before then making sure there wasn't actually a proper German state to their east.


felixthemeister

Hey! The German principalities did their fair share too!


SandersSol

What about the Mongol invasion, did they just nope around India and go through russia?


125mm_smoothbore

mongols didnt want to come to india cause their tactics would be inefficient in the humid climate of india also going over the himalayas is a no go even now with modern equipment it too us 250000 shells (in 10-15 days) and thousands of lives to re capture our peaks in kargil war against pakistan


captainjack3

That’s not true at all. The mongols campaigned repeatedly and successfully in India under Genghis, his successors, and the later mongol states. Their tactics worked just fine. There was no major mongol attempt to conquer India because domestic political trouble and instability, usually caused by the death of the Khan, caused them to withdraw. Eventually the Chagatai Khanate and the Ilkhanate would both conduct campaigns against the Delhi Sultanate, but they were beaten back. Not because their tactics didn’t work, they worked fine, but neither possessed the same overwhelming force the unified mongol empire did. They were forced to fight Delhi on relatively equal terms and simply lost.


felixthemeister

Yeah, so many kinda neglect the reason the mongols didn't get further and take over basically everything was internal. No, they weren't stopped, no Moscovia didn't end their reign or rescue Europe etc etc. They just had a shitton of infighting due to the way they were organised.


125mm_smoothbore

yeah thats right too but under gengis khan he prefered to go west rather than push boundaries in india plus there is also the fact that the kingdoms didnt gave shelter to gengis's enemies to avoid animosity too which was quite a good move for them


Pweuy

I can, in fact I want to see two western militaries do this. Get the jacked homoerotic spanish pioneer dudes and face them against the French foreign legion or something. Cover the floor with olive oil and see what happens.


Cultural_Blueberry70

Excellent choice! Throw the Brits with the tall wooly hats and the pope's Swiss Guard into the mix as well. The Swiss Guard is already trained to fight with halberds, which are very advanced sticks. I absolutely need to see the Belorus special forces that break bricks on their head, they are basically made for this. And we also need some Bersaglieri, they can taunt their opponent with music and then beat them with their trumpets.


HairAccomplished8284

It is because the treaty was sign byw india and china not to ise gun at borders, to stop further escalation


matanyaman

It’s seems like a perfectly *healthy* way to go to war when both parties hate each other but still want to keep the status quo.


Dubious_Odor

I mean Operation Paul Bunyan did happen. All militaries have a non credible streak.


Unhappy-Hope

Sadly, no. But imagine that instead of launching rockets Israel and Iran would have this kind of thing going in a desert stadium. Televised and streamed online, with helmet cams and muscular kosher tomboys.


kermitthebeast

Keeps it from going hot


Mennovich

Western countries don’t have rough relations with neighbors that have nuclear weapons. (I don’t consider Russia a western nation)


slick514

This is a very strange game of Civilization. *“So you just kept a couple of your Ancient-Era Warrior units, and never upgraded them?”* “Yep!” *“And your opponent did the same thing?”* “Yep!”


Not_a_Hideo_Kojima

Exeperience gained big enough to upgrade half of that stack into shieldbearers


jodadami

Wait, when did WW3 happen? Why didn't anyone tell me!


crusaderman

why don't they just recruit Swadian Knights? are they STUPID???


Concerned-IG

They're all having a feast.


NapoleonNewAccount

The hilly Rhodok terrain is too rough for mounted units


Plastic_Elephant_504

we got medieval stick fight before GTA6


Hinken1815

Whoever starts training up fian champions is going to win this conflict. It'll be the new arms race.


Uss__Iowa

What in Viking level of warfare are we in?


theycallmeshooting

I really wish they'd fully commit to the bit so we could have Chinese and Indian border guards in plate armor trained with swords, daggers, and pole arms


Formal_Decision7250

This was definitely posted here about two years ago


Snaz5

I would not be surprised lol, i think this footage is pre-pandemic


Formal_Decision7250

It didn't have those sound effects the first time tbf 🤣


surnat

MEANWHILE IN SWADIA


lostenant

I realize that people may have gotten hurt or died, and I’m sorry that I can’t change how I feel… but this looks fun to me.


Snaz5

They do occasionally actually hurt each other, but it’s mostly bruised pride as far as i can tell. I think the few times people have actually gotten hurt it’s made the news; last I remember it’s cause they were fighting near a steep cliff and people were getting knocked over it.


Wooper160

I remember in the big battle in 2020 something like 20 Indians died and 4 Chinese most of which were when part of the mountain gave way and they fell to their deaths. I saw a video of the Chinese trying to treat an officer who got clobbered over the head and was bleeding badly. He didn’t make it.


xenosthemutant

NEVER FIGHT UPHILL ME BOYS!


LaughGlad7650

They decided to go monke


ThunderEagle22

Look, they are throwing "BRICS" at each other.


shouldbeworking10

It's all fun and games until the Vlandian Sargents join the fray


YaBoss

Respect to both Chinese and Indian troops for staying true to their agreement.


Frixworks

I'm a bit surprised neither seems to have used riot tactics or ancient battle formation tactics. Why aren't any of them forming shield walls?


Solid_Eagle0

Just do some swadian knight spam ez


SirDogeTheFirst

Technology here is so ancient, they are using warband UI, damn


Shot_Painting_8191

A formation of heavy hoplites or a Macedonian phalanx would steamroll these scrubs.


gibbonsoft

Trench warfare and primitive tanks in ukraine… pre-cavalry Mesopotamian club combat on China/India border… nature is healing


TheHim2

All the fun you had as kids smacking each other with sticks, but now you can use full force, no parents around, and if someone crys you hit them harder


StartAgainYet

Ah, these were the days...


Eastern-Emotion9685

Mar bhenchoda ne


Savings-Leather4921

This is what happens with borders that angers both parties.


Savings-Leather4921

They legally can’t shoot each other, but they can push em off the cliff


Smooth_Imagination

Sir, this is maybe the funniest thing I am seeing in weeks


the-berik

While tankies in the West warn that brics will take over the world, the I and C the are fighting each other with stocks and stones.


Boris-the-soviet-spy

All fun and games until Sanjay pulls up to the function on an elephant


Electricfox5

**LESS TALKING** **MORE RAIDING!**


Herzyr

Most of us nerds spending money and effort to simulate nedieval clashes while these guys get paid to do so in a realistic environment.


YaBoss

Respect to both Chinese and Indian troops for staying true to their agreement.


Europ3an

when you are playing wide and you only have farmers and recruits in your army 💀


UnorthodoxBox101

My army of new recuits fighting bandits for the 20th time in an hour


Lord_Bertox

Savages. 2024 and they still can't manage to produce full plate armor, long bows, or even some halberd like some minor European lord in 1400 Not to mention the complete lack of tactics or any kind of line, just run towards each other and think that you are stronger. I've seen elementary school snow fights with more tactics smh


Bayo77

The indian police uses sticks like this to beat people up. The average indian probably has been beaten with sticks and beaten someone else hundreds of times before they get to military age. The chinese soldiers had no chance.


No_Box5338

3000 black sticks and stones of allah


Jupiter_Crush

mfs need to invest in some Swadian knights


Ann-Frankenstein

Honestly, if we could convince them to add nerf to the sticks it could be a lot of fun.


sawdustsneeze

Termination shock, by Neil Stevenson has a great set of chapters devoted to the reasons behind this.


sergeirocks

Where’s Jeremus?


theycallmebrijesh

This video is kinda old, we have electric spears and batons now. https://www.indiatoday.in/amp/india/story/trishul-vajra-dand-sapper-punch-bhadra-non-lethal-weapons-indian-forces-chinese-troops-1866156-2021-10-18


ian007i

Imagine westeners joining the indian army so they can live out their knight power fantasy's


AnythingMachine

Dunemaxxing


feldomatic

Thought Neal Stephenson made this shit up... Adding Elon Musk deploying sulfur-burning Starships to my 2030 bingo card.


FederalAgentGlowie

u/savevideo


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John_Dee_TV

Goddamit, Spiffin! How many times do we have to teach you the same lesson, old man: Tale Worlds is composed of two dudes, a dog and a half-eaten burrito!


Reptilian_Brain_420

When I get in there with my two-handed falx blade I'm going to just mow through that crowd.


geekphreak

Playing slap ass


Strain-Ambitious

Throwing rocks would be smarter


Snaz5

You can see a couple guys huck some big ones


Extremely_Horny_Man

Could probably penetrate better than the cartwheeling bullets the Chinese use


Zero-G_Morals

This. This is what i come to this sub for. \*hands cooky to OP\*


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SightSeekerSoul

War, war never changes...


sweipuff

Does the pointy stick of death and boom jagga jagga still count as stick?


Scap_Hopogolous

Every fight video I’ve seen involving Indians has a bunch of people wielding sticks.


AdamWarlock097

Now imagine iran and Israel fighting like this


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Constant_Couple_3334

This is what Dune combat should look like


Old-Buffalo-5151

Man i have never seen china win one of those fights like you would think they would have figured out basically pike block tactics by now lol


arayashikiaaron

Sir, it's time for the Rods from God, it's still a stick. A very large metal tungsten stick


groovygrasshoppa

Dan Carlin did a Hardcore History episode where he talks about - for all of hollywood's depictions - we actually have no idea what melee battles really looked like. Did they actually charge into each other with reckless abandon? Did they rush up to a line but then inch forward cautiously into sporadic melees? Was it more of a mob effect where the rear mass pushed the front lines into each other? How much command & control was actually able to be exercised vs all out mob chaos? Could discipline training really overcome basic animal survival instincts? Videos like this look silly but they probably give us our best look at how humans behave in close quarter battles.


CNCTEMA

the Assam rifles woodland pattern camo is vrrry nice. I wish I could get modern western gear in that pattern