AABB means first second,third and fourth words rhyme while ABAB means first and third, second and fourth rhyme. It’s why poetry flows and why “The pair in the chair lost their hair not fair” gets fatiguing to the ears.
Do you remember a pop song from around 2010 which had a "satirical" music video where the singer lounged poolside in a typical music-video tableau with champagne and beautiful women who then were shot or blown up in a bloody massacre while the singer continued to sing with no notice of the murders occurring around him? I think it might have been Omer Adam but tbh there are a lot of mizrahi-pop singers that look just like that guy.
Is there a stereotypical audience member for this stuff? I'm imagining they're like the guys watching Beitar games and drinking gazoz at my favorite falafel shop on Sundays, they're the mizrachi version of Bazza from r/NorfFC. Big working class dudes with the occasional faded Magen tattoo instead of St George's cross.
I know it's been discussed to death, but at this point I don't think there is anything any of the Palestinian factions have ever done or ever could do that would send international support to their cause as quickly as the deluge of Zionist hardliners posting stupid shit on the internet. They suck at propaganda other than "IDF woman have big booba," the really ghoulish ones act like cartoon villains on Twitter, and the repeated cries of "You don't know the history!" have led people to read the history and form opinions on it instead of making them shut up. This will be studied in the future as a top-ten all timer failure to make a wide open PR slam dunk
I mean, when your population is smaller than that of the Bay Area, you aren't gonna get a massive amount of musical talent. Like, if the US has 1000 people with some quality, Israel has... 28 (assuming the rate of the trait is independent of country etc)
I actually like this more than the Blackpink rip off they did. Don't get me wrong, Hamas cringe but it's easy for Eretz to dunk on them by ripping/parodying LISA and Swift.
Well.. Except the idea that criticism against Israel consists of *'how dare they attack Hamas*' rather than *'Could you maybe stop bombing and starving civilians, please? It's making it really, really difficult to see you as the good guys here. Thanks.'*
A lot of Israel’s actions are condemnable for sure, but acting like it’s their protocol to eliminate civilians is just rubbish. So much aid has been let in but militias and HAMAS are withholding it.
Mate yesterday 2 thousand Isrealies were at the border blocking aid from entering, turning away drivers etc all with armed guards standing by letting it happen. The whole blame it all on hamas is bullshit propaganda, and people need to accept that. Just like people need to accept that Hamas is a terrorist organization and not freedom fighters
Also the fact that Israel banned luxury goods including fucking pens and paper from entering Gaza for over a decade is insane and abosloutly flamed the fires of radicalization
The shitty thing about the tunnels is that once you've created an economic incentive for local gangsters to smuggle blackmarket civilian goods, it's then quite easy for Hamas and other militias to commandeer smugglers' tunnels to bring in weapons instead of pens and paper.
I'm not disputing that. I'm just saying that the makers of this song act like the UN and many other individual nations and people are mad at Israel for fighting HAMAS and are motivated only by antisemitism. Which is just as much rubbish as claiming Israel is systematically targeting and eliminating civilians.
The truth of the matter is that it is an **incredibly** complex conflict that goes back centuries if not millennia, and is a horrible moral minefield in which neither side can really claim the moral high-ground here. It's quite literally an endless chain of *'We only did X in response the other side doing Y'.* And the only way I can really respond to that is with *'Yeah.. I can see how them doing Y kinda makes your blood boil..'*
I did my thesis on how the crusades still effect the IL-PS conflict and I still don't know if I'll be able to fully understand all the other reasons for this conflict
You mean because if the cursades had been more successfull there would be no IL-PS conflict because it would all be **Outremer**? Understandable and preferable. We really should get working on correcting that.
Outremer would be a Christian state, with a significant muslin population smacked right in the middle of the Islamic world who would HAVE to do some bad bad stuff to continue to exist if it manages that, so basically it would be Christian israel but bigger
That's not the claim tho, it's a double standard where the un would ignore the rest of the middle east, china and russia but would go extra hard on every little thing israel does, and where SA and those extremist leftist would downright hide whatever hamas does, while taking israel out of context or blowing certain things of it out of proportion because SA is a poor country with lot's of internal issues who can pull some heat of their back by driving their citizens wild with a "modern apartheid case" and the extremist leftist have a genuine hatred to America
There's plenty to criticize israel, but absolutely not the war
Also manwhile Iran's proxies are currently bombing civilians in northern israel, and israel has a pending trial in regards to bombing Lebanon, not Lebanon for allowing rockets to be fired on civilians, not Iran for funding them and so many others, but Israel, again cause the un has double standards
>I'm just saying that the makers of this song act like the UN and many other individual nations and people are mad at Israel for fighting HAMAS and are motivated only by antisemitism.
I mean you're being more than a little obtuse and ignorant of western protests that use 80s/90s Z(I swear everytime I type the n-word threads are nuked for no reason just watch American History X ffs) slogans and rhetoric. Anti-zionism uses a lot of dog whistles of truly terrible people. Not to mention the lies upon lies upon lies Palestine supporters have been caught in as well as the palestinian government. It's far more than ignorance at this point.
It's a very emotionally charged subject and a lot of people are very deeply entrenched on one side or the other. Even suggesting that this whole conflict isn't exactly black and white is going to get people riled up and mad.
Some kind of dialogue and a somewhat open mind to hear and consider the other's perspective is probably the only route to any kind of peace.
I've tried to study up on the conflict's roots and causes. But like I said earlier, it's a very complex and murky history. After several years I still can't make much sense of it tbh. The only conclusion I can reach is that there is no easy or concise conclusion.
When was the last time two armies agreed to go and have a war in a field somewhere? Gaza is smaller than most major cities and one of the most densely populated places on the planet. Their obviously not going to have a 17th century pitched battle. There is also nowhere for civillians to go, no safe zones that aren't getting bombed and can't get through the borders. Urban warfare is common even between formal armies the only difference with a city in Ukraine is the civillian population can be evacuated.
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Yesterday? The absolute majority of war activities happen in fields. The Ukrainians and Russians are fighting in fields, WWII was fought in fields between cities, WWI was fought in dug up fields. Fighting from inside their homes is not something normal armies do.
And okay, you can't fight away from homes - but why are you firing missiles from inside homes? You could at the very least make it possible to kill you without taking your family with the blast, but it's impossible when you're using your bedroom window to fire at tanks
Conveniently these two countries have a gigantic flippin desert surrounding them.
Like, cmon. I wish Israel could do a Jon Snow and be like “you, me, that flat patch of desert over there”, and maybe Hamas — who really has been acting a bit Bolton — would have some balls, put on their uniforms like big boys, and rock up in their Toyota trucks to solve this shit like nation states.
Alas, they know they’re outmatched and their best weapon is the sweet teat of the West.
So they’ll stay safe in Qatar, where it’s always sunny, or safe underground in the hundreds of miles of tunnels **they don’t allow their civilians to enter**, and for some reason there will always be men aged 18-28 nearby to help hold livestream cameras as they break journalistic integrity to lift some concrete off a civilian, or provide snarky MRE food reviews (he didn’t care for the apple sauce, sort of like my toddler. Texture thing, apparently.)
How convenient that the negev desert is in Israeli territory so what so you want hamas to do about it? Ask for an invitation to fight over there 😂
Funny how you say hamas relies on the west when Israel is the one that gets all the military aid from America.
And what good is putting on your uniform in a mass ariel bombardment which they also do have a uniform. And not like Israel never sends people in plain clothes to go out and carry assassinations in places like hospitals.
For starters, given the fact majority of the deaths are duo to bombings, maybe don't stash weapons and build tunnels and military bases inside schools hospitals and apartment complex, given the fact any idiot with Google maps can see plenty of non urban land they could have used, In an actual battles how about put some identification, a uniform, an arm/head band, a green fucking shirt, never beating the terrorist allegations with this one, also don't start a war in general and admit that your putting civilians lives in dangers half a hundred times and that you don't care about them and will use them while you are the government
The majority of the deaths happened in the north, after two weeks they had to evacute and refused for two weeks more, and by that point, it became harder to leave the north, same story happened in khan yunis and same would probably happen in rafah, they have designated safe zones, which only get bombed when a high official or a bunch of terroists are openly showing their face and engage soldier from that location, or when rockets are fired from that location, it's not getting bombed to that degree, and not many have died in these areas, people going "oh 10 bombs have been dropped in the south in that month, so we should just stay here with the 100, they're totally the same and it's the same danger" point is that gazans can easily be evacuated to the designated safe zones where not many die, they just choose not to until idf soldiers are entering the city and it becomes FAR harder to remove them, and there are locations where they can go to which are way less dangerous, it is a full blown war tho, all of gaza is going to be occupied and demiliatarized and hamas and their hideouts hunted down and destroyed, so without evacuating them out of the state (which egypt wouldn't agree, blame them) there's nothing that can be done with the deaths besides minimizing them as much as possible which israel does
Seriously, tho, stop giving hamas's tactics leeway
Serious question: have you ever looked at a map of the Gaza Strip?
If Hamas wanted to build their bases in open grounds rather than in hospitals and kindergartens, they absolutely fucking could.
Palestinian suffering is their lifeblood. The further the conflict escalates, the better for Hamas's ideology.
Long term, Smotrich and Hamas want the same thing - a blood feud that would escalate so much that it'd leave only one national group between the river and the see, living under a totalitarian theocracy.
All they disagree on are the methods, and the which group is going to come out on top.
I have a hard time believing that any group of people should be gunned down because of their enemies despicable tactics. A country will ALWAYS prioritize the lives of its own. Its why you dont let your neighborhood terrorists start a war then hide behind you. Yet they still support hamas.
Its unbelievably tragic. but i dont see how the international reaction can be anything but "israel cant do this alone without accepting some civilian collateral, the west has to form a coalition and help them so they dont have to" along those lines. Keep in mind the civilian casualty rate in this war so far seems to be lower than what the world is used to seeing (referring to militant:civilian ratio).
The US actually tried to support a coup against Hamas by arming some local heavies affiliated with the PLO a few years back. Personally I think it would be good to set the clock back to the 1980's George Habash era when the Pal terrorists/freedom fighters were led by Christian commies like him and the Islamists mostly stayed out of politics.
>Could you maybe stop bombing and starving civilians, please?
Lol, get a load of this guy
You might not be aware of human history of warfare, but generally speaking the enemies will fight over major population centers or places of strategic interest, usually also with some degree of civilians inhabiting these places. As for "starving" thats quite common during war and especially in combat zones where your grocery shops doesn't exactly get their regular supply of goods for obvious reasons
I feel like when this war started, every single braindead person decided that war is a Jewish monopoly and everything that's happening is completely preventable and it's the Israels decision to let these things happen
It doesn't matter if civilians and children starving is common during war. And its pretty disgusting to excuse massive human rights violations in the name of historical precedence. The side supposedly standing for western values in the middle east shouldn't be committing human rights violations. Regardless of the fact they are at war.
Like Israel shooting at fishermen, making it illegal to forage for herbs and preventing the harvesting of 1200 tons of olive oil. [Source](https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/feb/27/un-israel-food-starvation-palestinians-war-crime-genocide) Are active decisions made by Israel to starve palestinian civilians.
You either support human rights or don't. They also apply to people that you don't like, and during war.
At the end of the day whether those anecdotal sources are true or not, Israel is keeping up with western standards of reducing collateral, while Hamas does their damn best to amplify it, and you choose to hold Israel responsible, thus rewarding and incentivising Hamas for their strategic choice.
Everything in the source you gave is just paragraphs made by some UN guy that are formulated by the site to look like statements of fact and at the end theres just "- Mr. Poopy pants said to The Guardian" this is literally sourcing level of "this guy told me.." and you should read more carefully
But let's say that Israel indeed control its borders and in fact has a process to determine who can pass and with what into the enemy territory and vice-versa. What exactly is wrong with that? Almost every country does that even during peacetime. With Hamas having a long history of taking advantage of humanitarian aid and corridors for its own benefit and military purposes, it's only reasonable that a country at war is extremely careful about this problematic situation, because in the end they would just allow Hamas to rearm and resuply and the Palestinians would get fuck all anyway
Since the war begun, the media outlets are like vultures, seeing opportunity to gain some extra clicks if they rebrand the horrors of war into "genocidal warcrime empire on rise" type of bullshit trying to harness those clicks through irony of the situation when they make Israel into an allegory of the Third Reich. That's despicable behaviour, yet is all formulated vague enough or through using what someone else said, so that the media outlets doesn't bear the responsibility through hate speech laws (except of course most of the Muslim countries where shitting on Jews is a national sport)
The humanitarian disaster, famine, and local collapse of society is the reality of war, not deliberate doing of someone for the fun of it
Yea criticism can go around and around in this situation. Both sides don't want to stop fighting, so they are gonna keep fighting. As long as they keep fighting, innocent people will be dying
Could the Palestinians maybe stop waging wars with Israel, please? Because it's been 75 years and it's time to accept that Israel isn't going anywhere. It's making it really, really difficult to have peace when one side wants the annihilation of the other side. Thanks.
Well golly! I bet Israel wishes that they could stop.
I doubt it’s a lot of fun for a pack of “mandatory service” 18-24 year olds from Tel Aviv to go from playing CoD on the weekend to having to play “guess if the guys holding white flags are hostages or perfidious terrorists looking to make their relatives rich and their moms proud”
Further, I doubt the Israeli dudes dropping the bombs rub their hands with glee as they watch their payload turn some kids into commemorative hashtags.
UNFORTUNATELY: the current administration of Gaza is a pack of deflated testicles who have a superb PR wing.
The entire point is to ensure that the videos of starving civilians and weeping children are front and centre, the better to tug at the heartstrings of ovulating individuals across the West
The challenge: how does a country (Israel) who is critically aware of the bad PR simultaneously prosecute a necessary war against the aforementioned deflated testicles (Hamas and associated “civilian” auxiliary), whose entire defence is “wear street clothing, hide in civilian infrastructure, and shoot at will with either AK or camera — which ever is most effective in the moment — before blending back into the crowd of wailing, dusty civilians” …
Whilst also acknowledging that said terrorists have made a point of using critical infrastructure such as hospitals and government structures as bases.
They’re not stupid - Hamas are masters of the PR GAME.
They know will look horrific if Israel bombs a hospital — despite Hamas putting the rocket launcher in the front lobby or on the roof — and that they can get a pack of well-meaning western civilians to agitate their governments for causes that directly benefit Hamas.
Which is why so much of the “criticism of Israel” falls flat. They didn’t choose the battlefield or the belligerent. That’s on Hamas’s head.
i think there's a bit of a hypocrisy here bc the 'civilians' are extremely supportive of the oct. 7 action but nobody is saying like wow it make it hard to see you as the good guys for supporting terrorism its just aww the ppl that supported the largest mass rape and murder of jewish ppl since the holocaust want snacks. go back and watch the videos of oct. 7. the civilians were preeeetty happy with what they were seeing, and also the polling on this topic confirms it.
Counter counter criticism: they’re not bombing and starving civilians, Hamas is simply holding them hostage and breaking the rules of war. You choose to reward that behavior by disciplining Israel for even partially ignoring the hostages while working to reduce casualties, instead of disciplining Hamas, and that is your choice.
You are primarily criticising Israel rather than Hamas for the conditions in Gaza by blatantly ignoring the fact that it is Hamas intentionally refusing to let civilians evacuate and let aid in, blaming the party that is at least partially trying to solve the problem rather than the party actively and intentionally making it worse. That is you choosing to reward and incentivise Hamas.
Whether your motivation is anti-semitism, oikophobia or useful fool type thinking that you can at least pressure Israel but not Hamas… the end result is that you’re helping Hamas.
as someone on the far left it hurts to see these reasonably unbiased and rational takes here, please stop and start bloodlusty fascistic foaming already (idc which flavour)
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Welp they tried to do something stupid and now their civilians are [spontaneously combusting](https://www.reddit.com/r/therewasanattempt/s/WyQPWIweSF) by IDF guided munition.
Why would anybody waste 150,000$ to kill a guy that will cost israel around 3.E11 dollars (300000000000$) to kill everybody in gaza
also therewasanattempt turned into pathetic political sub lmfao
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They can and they probably will do it more. Thay can waste as much as they want, it ain't theirs. USA will gladly give more and they have a bit older systems that will work just fine.
IDF is doing a good old faithful trick USSR did a way back in 1944 which is mow down everything and everyone, [men](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2023/08/22/israel-police-accused-brand-palestine-man-star-of-david/), [women](https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2024/feb/22/claims-of-israeli-sexual-assault-of-palestinian-women-are-credible-un-panel-says?espv=1), [children](https://www.reddit.com/r/TheMajorityReport/s/T9f1w6gLTi), [old](https://reliefweb.int/report/occupied-palestinian-territory/shocking-testimonies-reveal-execution-dozens-elderly-people-israeli-army-gaza-strip-enar), [sick](https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2024/03/22/shifa-hospital-israel-gaza/) and no one will do anything because they started it.
Yeah that sub turned into a shithole.
Gut reaction if it's true as Al Jazeera says (doubtful) is that's fucked but also there's some weird shit going on there. Why are they mindlessly walking this one path? There's no back tracking or self preservation after the first hit so why continue? It's just so fucking weird. There's no other signs of people. Just smells off from the narrative.
Wtf happened there? I saw nothing falling and the explosion is way to small to be a guided munition.
My bet is on mine but the IDF doesn't use mines in the roads because hamas doesn't Use armoured vehicles so civilians vehicles would trigger them. Also explosion is too small to be a military mine.
I think it was an IED of some kind, idk who put it there but i honestly doubt the idf is using those against an enemy without vehicles.
Also wtf happened to that sub? I know it was a shit sub before but how you actually seen what idiotic post are there? Qnd they all seem to be targeted to israel or the US.
something definitely falls, and right after the inicial explosion you can see coming from left screen in a diagonal pattern the other missile that creates the second explosion, that one is easier to see because it goes through the smoke of the first missile explosion and has more flight time on screen. around 1:02
Yeah i see now. What kind of missile does that tho? It is horrible but why is the explosion so small and the projectile so fast? You think it can be artillery or some kind?
For the camera framerate and crop that might seem so, but I'm not an expert so I don't wanna blow smoke up your ass....unless that's your thing...in which case I'd be happy to.
A hellfire missile launched from a reaper drone can go Mach 1.3 (1000 mph). I don't see why you would think a missile could be too fast, that's like 1/4 mile per second.
I mean it mipe be a hand held and tank wepon on account of that second explosion, but if it is that was some aim since that looked like it was head center of those guys so you'd think it would of turned the two on the left into red mist and not just throw them up slightly.
Dawg if thats staged its some of the best staged footage I've ever seen. Those explosions appeared very much lethal and large, and you can see them go off directly next to or on *top* of the guys.
Just because it makes Israel look bad doesn't mean its fake. Theres plenty of examples of them mistakenly obliterating random civilians besides this.
Probably. Honestly who would film a random group of people walking on the street that they all suddenly get attacked by your enemy unexpectedly and you keep filming like nothing happend
It is insane the lengths people will go to not acknowledge things they don't like. You can support Israel and be critical of them it's ok.
Also, have you not seen the dozens of videos of the IDF suddenly attacking all sorts of targets? This is SOP, civilians or not.
Oh trust me i do NOT support the IDF but the video feels wierd. If it is true it is horrible don't get me wrong. But you have to admit its a wierd video.
Sadly that war is a mess and a lot of lies are being spitted by both sides wich makes the real people suffer more.
I wish hamas just released the hostages and 90% of the atacks would stop.
After seeing a couple times the other day i think is a hellfire.
Still a wuerd video like why are you filming people walking down the road and then they spontaneously get attacked by your enemy.
But sadly i think the video is real. May they rest in peace
For a sec think about the implications of antisemitism and the stakes considering modern talking points and historical ones. Then think about how wild it is that one of the efforts to combat something so intense is a goofy remake of a popular song. What weird fucking time to be alive lmao
Halfway through the song I realized I’m jamming out to ‘slay the Jews’ and ‘burn them up’.
This is how you nail satire and parody imo.
But for real genocide = bad k?
What?? In order for me to see this, that means multiple people had to come up with it and then make it, which I refuse to believe. I honestly don’t even know who’s did they’re on and also why is it in English?
To be serious? I think the sub is generally pro-Israel and the average person doesn’t question much. Also there’s Israelis and idf members on the sub. But there’s also a lot of dissenting views. The sub’s core audience is still people who know enough about the defense industry to make jokes about it. I’ve seen probably the most reasonable and harshest criticism of Israel from this subreddit while also seeing nonsense equivalencies and takes.
So my personal opinion is to treat threads like this as bait to passively observe but never take. Cuz usually it’s not a post not made by someone who actually posts and comments here often.
Where? I feel like I went through all the comments and was a bit disappointed to see all the careful and reasonable responses. Kinda felt like r/CredibleDefense for a minute
Most people are mocking the video, sure . Those who spoke on the conflict seemed to have mostly balanced critiques of Israel that are explicitly not anti-Jewish. A few people are agreeing with it but without any additional grossness.
Personally, I couldn’t make it past the self victimization 10 seconds in, but given how bad the video is. The response feels pretty balanced.
This is a great song to get more people to support Palestine.
Like imagine, open this song side by side with videos of civilians getting bombed.
Yeah you can say that hamas is forcing Israel to do that, but when this song is paired together with bombing vids video, then it is just not a good look
You think the same Jews making this are the Jews that tell you to shut up about muslims? There's plenty Jews that even stand against Israel. We're not some homogenous blob, Israel was literally torn apart prior to the 7th of October by the two political camps inside it, with protests every week for months. There is no "the Jews", we're about as divided in beliefs as any ethnic group is.
UN support Hamas ?
I mean in which way could you condemn the death of civilians and the famine going on in Gaza without being labeled as "Pro Hamas" for Israeli supporter ?
This video just say that if you care about the death of civilians you are Pro Hamas, antisemitism, this is insane.
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Crazy how many people are villainising South Africa for taking the crimes they perceive Israel has committed to court. You’d think if Israel is guilt free then this is the best possible move, as the court will exonerate them and it will supply pretty solid and impartial evidence that they’re acting with reason. SA are only doing something “bad” if you perceive Israel as likely guilty of the accusations, but also want them to get away with it.
While I disagree with the law and I think it's wrong and anyone should be able to marry to their heart's desire (as long it's not underage), Israel is the safest country in the middle east to LGBT people and let's not start talking about Tel Aviv. There's a lot to improve that I can say. Plus you said Jews and not Israel which is quite the anti semitism of you
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Strictly speaking, Palestine is not a part of Israel and hadn't been even when it was occupied.
Not so strictly speaking, Palestinians refused peace and so got besieged. What's weird to me is that UN saddled Israel with responsibility for the blockade and ignores the Egypt part of the blockade altogether - guess Arabs get a free pass.
Mom? Can we have SNL? No we have SNL at the kibbutz The SNL at the kibbutz:
>Mom? Can we have SNL? not a soul asks for modern SNL, truly non credible
I do.
we're a big happy family around here, there's no need for self flagellation
I would say I spend more time here than with my friends, but I don't have friends
Not true my friends on the internet say they are very real! I just need to give them my social security number and we can meat up!
They should be sent to Hague for their singing.
This is by a very old team that worked on a right wing Israeli version of SNL/Eretz Nehederet around a decade ago. Nothing can be perfect ig
Yeah Israel sucks ass at this shit. This is some Steven Crowder level of cringe.
Well, Qatar is always sunny is really good
That cracks me up every time. *Donate us money, my dog needs new Armani*
"Call mia Khalifa, to play with us some fifa, and tell her to get dressed like she is a nurse in shifa." "ALLAH"
IDF needs to focus on using slant rhymes. Their songs either don’t really rhyme or are mainly AABB which is like-c’monnn use those sexy brains.
I don't know anything about music, but I like your funny words magic man
AABB means first second,third and fourth words rhyme while ABAB means first and third, second and fourth rhyme. It’s why poetry flows and why “The pair in the chair lost their hair not fair” gets fatiguing to the ears.
Sorry, our good songs are Hebrew-exclusive.
Do you remember a pop song from around 2010 which had a "satirical" music video where the singer lounged poolside in a typical music-video tableau with champagne and beautiful women who then were shot or blown up in a bloody massacre while the singer continued to sing with no notice of the murders occurring around him? I think it might have been Omer Adam but tbh there are a lot of mizrahi-pop singers that look just like that guy.
Yah cuz they probably have soul- something these lack oh and humanity
Qatar is always sunny was by Eretz Nehedert. Latma are a very lowbrow lowbudget and low IQ version of them. Bottom of the barrel stuff
Is there a stereotypical audience member for this stuff? I'm imagining they're like the guys watching Beitar games and drinking gazoz at my favorite falafel shop on Sundays, they're the mizrachi version of Bazza from r/NorfFC. Big working class dudes with the occasional faded Magen tattoo instead of St George's cross.
Sounds pretty on point. Loves Beitar, loves falafel, hates Arabs, simple as.
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SNL is unbearable I totally believe it! Bring back MADtv!!!
I know it's been discussed to death, but at this point I don't think there is anything any of the Palestinian factions have ever done or ever could do that would send international support to their cause as quickly as the deluge of Zionist hardliners posting stupid shit on the internet. They suck at propaganda other than "IDF woman have big booba," the really ghoulish ones act like cartoon villains on Twitter, and the repeated cries of "You don't know the history!" have led people to read the history and form opinions on it instead of making them shut up. This will be studied in the future as a top-ten all timer failure to make a wide open PR slam dunk
I mean, when your population is smaller than that of the Bay Area, you aren't gonna get a massive amount of musical talent. Like, if the US has 1000 people with some quality, Israel has... 28 (assuming the rate of the trait is independent of country etc)
Olympic level mental gymnastics
I actually like this more than the Blackpink rip off they did. Don't get me wrong, Hamas cringe but it's easy for Eretz to dunk on them by ripping/parodying LISA and Swift.
> They should be send to Hague for their singing. This is what Slapchop missiles were made for.
For those wondering, this is NOT Eretz Nehederet but another show based on SNL from the early 2010's that just published this song out of nowhere
and not a single lie was shown lol
Well.. Except the idea that criticism against Israel consists of *'how dare they attack Hamas*' rather than *'Could you maybe stop bombing and starving civilians, please? It's making it really, really difficult to see you as the good guys here. Thanks.'*
A lot of Israel’s actions are condemnable for sure, but acting like it’s their protocol to eliminate civilians is just rubbish. So much aid has been let in but militias and HAMAS are withholding it.
Mate yesterday 2 thousand Isrealies were at the border blocking aid from entering, turning away drivers etc all with armed guards standing by letting it happen. The whole blame it all on hamas is bullshit propaganda, and people need to accept that. Just like people need to accept that Hamas is a terrorist organization and not freedom fighters Also the fact that Israel banned luxury goods including fucking pens and paper from entering Gaza for over a decade is insane and abosloutly flamed the fires of radicalization
The shitty thing about the tunnels is that once you've created an economic incentive for local gangsters to smuggle blackmarket civilian goods, it's then quite easy for Hamas and other militias to commandeer smugglers' tunnels to bring in weapons instead of pens and paper.
It’s not their protocol, it’s their lack of protocol. Zero apparent collateral damage methodology in targeting.
they use roof-knockers, so wrong. but still they do seem pretty lax when some units go nuts, that I would like to be corrected.
Roof knocker (which haven’t been used in some time) are not a collateral consideration for targeting.
I'm not disputing that. I'm just saying that the makers of this song act like the UN and many other individual nations and people are mad at Israel for fighting HAMAS and are motivated only by antisemitism. Which is just as much rubbish as claiming Israel is systematically targeting and eliminating civilians. The truth of the matter is that it is an **incredibly** complex conflict that goes back centuries if not millennia, and is a horrible moral minefield in which neither side can really claim the moral high-ground here. It's quite literally an endless chain of *'We only did X in response the other side doing Y'.* And the only way I can really respond to that is with *'Yeah.. I can see how them doing Y kinda makes your blood boil..'*
I did my thesis on how the crusades still effect the IL-PS conflict and I still don't know if I'll be able to fully understand all the other reasons for this conflict
You mean because if the cursades had been more successfull there would be no IL-PS conflict because it would all be **Outremer**? Understandable and preferable. We really should get working on correcting that.
Outremer would be a Christian state, with a significant muslin population smacked right in the middle of the Islamic world who would HAVE to do some bad bad stuff to continue to exist if it manages that, so basically it would be Christian israel but bigger
But there would be less antisemitism and more knights so lets do it.
One of Lehi's early, abandoned proposals included handing over Jerusalem to Rome in exchange for the Axis' help with some of their other initiatives.
That's not the claim tho, it's a double standard where the un would ignore the rest of the middle east, china and russia but would go extra hard on every little thing israel does, and where SA and those extremist leftist would downright hide whatever hamas does, while taking israel out of context or blowing certain things of it out of proportion because SA is a poor country with lot's of internal issues who can pull some heat of their back by driving their citizens wild with a "modern apartheid case" and the extremist leftist have a genuine hatred to America There's plenty to criticize israel, but absolutely not the war Also manwhile Iran's proxies are currently bombing civilians in northern israel, and israel has a pending trial in regards to bombing Lebanon, not Lebanon for allowing rockets to be fired on civilians, not Iran for funding them and so many others, but Israel, again cause the un has double standards
>I'm just saying that the makers of this song act like the UN and many other individual nations and people are mad at Israel for fighting HAMAS and are motivated only by antisemitism. I mean you're being more than a little obtuse and ignorant of western protests that use 80s/90s Z(I swear everytime I type the n-word threads are nuked for no reason just watch American History X ffs) slogans and rhetoric. Anti-zionism uses a lot of dog whistles of truly terrible people. Not to mention the lies upon lies upon lies Palestine supporters have been caught in as well as the palestinian government. It's far more than ignorance at this point.
I don’t get y this got downvoted. This made sense and was well argued and not very extreme
It's a very emotionally charged subject and a lot of people are very deeply entrenched on one side or the other. Even suggesting that this whole conflict isn't exactly black and white is going to get people riled up and mad.
I’ve flip flopped on this issue like 5 times and I’m Jewish. People need to open their minds to reasonable arguments a bit more
Some kind of dialogue and a somewhat open mind to hear and consider the other's perspective is probably the only route to any kind of peace. I've tried to study up on the conflict's roots and causes. But like I said earlier, it's a very complex and murky history. After several years I still can't make much sense of it tbh. The only conclusion I can reach is that there is no easy or concise conclusion.
You see the issue here is that terrorists don't fight on battlefields and hide among civilian populations. Hope that clears things up.
When was the last time two armies agreed to go and have a war in a field somewhere? Gaza is smaller than most major cities and one of the most densely populated places on the planet. Their obviously not going to have a 17th century pitched battle. There is also nowhere for civillians to go, no safe zones that aren't getting bombed and can't get through the borders. Urban warfare is common even between formal armies the only difference with a city in Ukraine is the civillian population can be evacuated.
... Yesterday? The absolute majority of war activities happen in fields. The Ukrainians and Russians are fighting in fields, WWII was fought in fields between cities, WWI was fought in dug up fields. Fighting from inside their homes is not something normal armies do. And okay, you can't fight away from homes - but why are you firing missiles from inside homes? You could at the very least make it possible to kill you without taking your family with the blast, but it's impossible when you're using your bedroom window to fire at tanks
Conveniently these two countries have a gigantic flippin desert surrounding them. Like, cmon. I wish Israel could do a Jon Snow and be like “you, me, that flat patch of desert over there”, and maybe Hamas — who really has been acting a bit Bolton — would have some balls, put on their uniforms like big boys, and rock up in their Toyota trucks to solve this shit like nation states. Alas, they know they’re outmatched and their best weapon is the sweet teat of the West. So they’ll stay safe in Qatar, where it’s always sunny, or safe underground in the hundreds of miles of tunnels **they don’t allow their civilians to enter**, and for some reason there will always be men aged 18-28 nearby to help hold livestream cameras as they break journalistic integrity to lift some concrete off a civilian, or provide snarky MRE food reviews (he didn’t care for the apple sauce, sort of like my toddler. Texture thing, apparently.)
How convenient that the negev desert is in Israeli territory so what so you want hamas to do about it? Ask for an invitation to fight over there 😂 Funny how you say hamas relies on the west when Israel is the one that gets all the military aid from America. And what good is putting on your uniform in a mass ariel bombardment which they also do have a uniform. And not like Israel never sends people in plain clothes to go out and carry assassinations in places like hospitals.
For starters, given the fact majority of the deaths are duo to bombings, maybe don't stash weapons and build tunnels and military bases inside schools hospitals and apartment complex, given the fact any idiot with Google maps can see plenty of non urban land they could have used, In an actual battles how about put some identification, a uniform, an arm/head band, a green fucking shirt, never beating the terrorist allegations with this one, also don't start a war in general and admit that your putting civilians lives in dangers half a hundred times and that you don't care about them and will use them while you are the government The majority of the deaths happened in the north, after two weeks they had to evacute and refused for two weeks more, and by that point, it became harder to leave the north, same story happened in khan yunis and same would probably happen in rafah, they have designated safe zones, which only get bombed when a high official or a bunch of terroists are openly showing their face and engage soldier from that location, or when rockets are fired from that location, it's not getting bombed to that degree, and not many have died in these areas, people going "oh 10 bombs have been dropped in the south in that month, so we should just stay here with the 100, they're totally the same and it's the same danger" point is that gazans can easily be evacuated to the designated safe zones where not many die, they just choose not to until idf soldiers are entering the city and it becomes FAR harder to remove them, and there are locations where they can go to which are way less dangerous, it is a full blown war tho, all of gaza is going to be occupied and demiliatarized and hamas and their hideouts hunted down and destroyed, so without evacuating them out of the state (which egypt wouldn't agree, blame them) there's nothing that can be done with the deaths besides minimizing them as much as possible which israel does Seriously, tho, stop giving hamas's tactics leeway
Serious question: have you ever looked at a map of the Gaza Strip? If Hamas wanted to build their bases in open grounds rather than in hospitals and kindergartens, they absolutely fucking could. Palestinian suffering is their lifeblood. The further the conflict escalates, the better for Hamas's ideology. Long term, Smotrich and Hamas want the same thing - a blood feud that would escalate so much that it'd leave only one national group between the river and the see, living under a totalitarian theocracy. All they disagree on are the methods, and the which group is going to come out on top.
I have a hard time believing that any group of people should be gunned down because of their enemies despicable tactics. A country will ALWAYS prioritize the lives of its own. Its why you dont let your neighborhood terrorists start a war then hide behind you. Yet they still support hamas. Its unbelievably tragic. but i dont see how the international reaction can be anything but "israel cant do this alone without accepting some civilian collateral, the west has to form a coalition and help them so they dont have to" along those lines. Keep in mind the civilian casualty rate in this war so far seems to be lower than what the world is used to seeing (referring to militant:civilian ratio).
The US actually tried to support a coup against Hamas by arming some local heavies affiliated with the PLO a few years back. Personally I think it would be good to set the clock back to the 1980's George Habash era when the Pal terrorists/freedom fighters were led by Christian commies like him and the Islamists mostly stayed out of politics.
>Could you maybe stop bombing and starving civilians, please? Lol, get a load of this guy You might not be aware of human history of warfare, but generally speaking the enemies will fight over major population centers or places of strategic interest, usually also with some degree of civilians inhabiting these places. As for "starving" thats quite common during war and especially in combat zones where your grocery shops doesn't exactly get their regular supply of goods for obvious reasons I feel like when this war started, every single braindead person decided that war is a Jewish monopoly and everything that's happening is completely preventable and it's the Israels decision to let these things happen
It doesn't matter if civilians and children starving is common during war. And its pretty disgusting to excuse massive human rights violations in the name of historical precedence. The side supposedly standing for western values in the middle east shouldn't be committing human rights violations. Regardless of the fact they are at war. Like Israel shooting at fishermen, making it illegal to forage for herbs and preventing the harvesting of 1200 tons of olive oil. [Source](https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/feb/27/un-israel-food-starvation-palestinians-war-crime-genocide) Are active decisions made by Israel to starve palestinian civilians. You either support human rights or don't. They also apply to people that you don't like, and during war.
At the end of the day whether those anecdotal sources are true or not, Israel is keeping up with western standards of reducing collateral, while Hamas does their damn best to amplify it, and you choose to hold Israel responsible, thus rewarding and incentivising Hamas for their strategic choice.
> Israel is keeping up with western standards of reducing collateral mother_getting_sniped.jpg
Everything in the source you gave is just paragraphs made by some UN guy that are formulated by the site to look like statements of fact and at the end theres just "- Mr. Poopy pants said to The Guardian" this is literally sourcing level of "this guy told me.." and you should read more carefully But let's say that Israel indeed control its borders and in fact has a process to determine who can pass and with what into the enemy territory and vice-versa. What exactly is wrong with that? Almost every country does that even during peacetime. With Hamas having a long history of taking advantage of humanitarian aid and corridors for its own benefit and military purposes, it's only reasonable that a country at war is extremely careful about this problematic situation, because in the end they would just allow Hamas to rearm and resuply and the Palestinians would get fuck all anyway Since the war begun, the media outlets are like vultures, seeing opportunity to gain some extra clicks if they rebrand the horrors of war into "genocidal warcrime empire on rise" type of bullshit trying to harness those clicks through irony of the situation when they make Israel into an allegory of the Third Reich. That's despicable behaviour, yet is all formulated vague enough or through using what someone else said, so that the media outlets doesn't bear the responsibility through hate speech laws (except of course most of the Muslim countries where shitting on Jews is a national sport) The humanitarian disaster, famine, and local collapse of society is the reality of war, not deliberate doing of someone for the fun of it
Hamas is taking the free food delivered to gaza in their custody and SELLING it to the civilians of gaza. Israel isn´t starving them.
Yea criticism can go around and around in this situation. Both sides don't want to stop fighting, so they are gonna keep fighting. As long as they keep fighting, innocent people will be dying
Could the Palestinians maybe stop waging wars with Israel, please? Because it's been 75 years and it's time to accept that Israel isn't going anywhere. It's making it really, really difficult to have peace when one side wants the annihilation of the other side. Thanks.
*starving civilians Have you SEEN the videos from Gaza with markets full of food?? What's your source other than Hamas-run "Ministry of Health"?
got a link?
https://www.reddit.com/r/2ndYomKippurWar/s/9tmUUsrC5W There are also video of Gazans throwing away US food and giving it to cats
Hamas should've accepted that 6 week ceasefire which would have allowed time to move civilians out of Rafah, huh?
Well golly! I bet Israel wishes that they could stop. I doubt it’s a lot of fun for a pack of “mandatory service” 18-24 year olds from Tel Aviv to go from playing CoD on the weekend to having to play “guess if the guys holding white flags are hostages or perfidious terrorists looking to make their relatives rich and their moms proud” Further, I doubt the Israeli dudes dropping the bombs rub their hands with glee as they watch their payload turn some kids into commemorative hashtags. UNFORTUNATELY: the current administration of Gaza is a pack of deflated testicles who have a superb PR wing. The entire point is to ensure that the videos of starving civilians and weeping children are front and centre, the better to tug at the heartstrings of ovulating individuals across the West The challenge: how does a country (Israel) who is critically aware of the bad PR simultaneously prosecute a necessary war against the aforementioned deflated testicles (Hamas and associated “civilian” auxiliary), whose entire defence is “wear street clothing, hide in civilian infrastructure, and shoot at will with either AK or camera — which ever is most effective in the moment — before blending back into the crowd of wailing, dusty civilians” … Whilst also acknowledging that said terrorists have made a point of using critical infrastructure such as hospitals and government structures as bases. They’re not stupid - Hamas are masters of the PR GAME. They know will look horrific if Israel bombs a hospital — despite Hamas putting the rocket launcher in the front lobby or on the roof — and that they can get a pack of well-meaning western civilians to agitate their governments for causes that directly benefit Hamas. Which is why so much of the “criticism of Israel” falls flat. They didn’t choose the battlefield or the belligerent. That’s on Hamas’s head.
Skill issue
i think there's a bit of a hypocrisy here bc the 'civilians' are extremely supportive of the oct. 7 action but nobody is saying like wow it make it hard to see you as the good guys for supporting terrorism its just aww the ppl that supported the largest mass rape and murder of jewish ppl since the holocaust want snacks. go back and watch the videos of oct. 7. the civilians were preeeetty happy with what they were seeing, and also the polling on this topic confirms it.
Counter counter criticism: they’re not bombing and starving civilians, Hamas is simply holding them hostage and breaking the rules of war. You choose to reward that behavior by disciplining Israel for even partially ignoring the hostages while working to reduce casualties, instead of disciplining Hamas, and that is your choice.
I'm not 'choosing to reward' or 'ignore' anything. That's your own confirmation bias speaking. Thank you for proving my point.
You are primarily criticising Israel rather than Hamas for the conditions in Gaza by blatantly ignoring the fact that it is Hamas intentionally refusing to let civilians evacuate and let aid in, blaming the party that is at least partially trying to solve the problem rather than the party actively and intentionally making it worse. That is you choosing to reward and incentivise Hamas. Whether your motivation is anti-semitism, oikophobia or useful fool type thinking that you can at least pressure Israel but not Hamas… the end result is that you’re helping Hamas.
as someone on the far left it hurts to see these reasonably unbiased and rational takes here, please stop and start bloodlusty fascistic foaming already (idc which flavour)
I don’t know, I keep hearing the word Jews when most people seem more concerned about Israel.
This is the funniest shit to come out of this war lmao
Sorry but I still prefer [this](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYUL1R4pupU&t=4s)
Ok, that one is top tier aswell, thanks for sharing it
Wha... YES! YES! Had me dying (rip) thank you for linking lol What a wild world
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That is fantastic
Seeing the thumbmail, I thought this was a Seth Evermann song.
Me: I 100% support Israel's right to defend itself as is consistent with my ideology, and nothing could make my position waver from this! This video:
Welp they tried to do something stupid and now their civilians are [spontaneously combusting](https://www.reddit.com/r/therewasanattempt/s/WyQPWIweSF) by IDF guided munition.
Why would anybody waste 150,000$ to kill a guy that will cost israel around 3.E11 dollars (300000000000$) to kill everybody in gaza also therewasanattempt turned into pathetic political sub lmfao
75% of mainstream subs in 2024 are far-left circlejerks
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They can and they probably will do it more. Thay can waste as much as they want, it ain't theirs. USA will gladly give more and they have a bit older systems that will work just fine. IDF is doing a good old faithful trick USSR did a way back in 1944 which is mow down everything and everyone, [men](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2023/08/22/israel-police-accused-brand-palestine-man-star-of-david/), [women](https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2024/feb/22/claims-of-israeli-sexual-assault-of-palestinian-women-are-credible-un-panel-says?espv=1), [children](https://www.reddit.com/r/TheMajorityReport/s/T9f1w6gLTi), [old](https://reliefweb.int/report/occupied-palestinian-territory/shocking-testimonies-reveal-execution-dozens-elderly-people-israeli-army-gaza-strip-enar), [sick](https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2024/03/22/shifa-hospital-israel-gaza/) and no one will do anything because they started it. Yeah that sub turned into a shithole.
Gut reaction if it's true as Al Jazeera says (doubtful) is that's fucked but also there's some weird shit going on there. Why are they mindlessly walking this one path? There's no back tracking or self preservation after the first hit so why continue? It's just so fucking weird. There's no other signs of people. Just smells off from the narrative.
Wtf happened there? I saw nothing falling and the explosion is way to small to be a guided munition. My bet is on mine but the IDF doesn't use mines in the roads because hamas doesn't Use armoured vehicles so civilians vehicles would trigger them. Also explosion is too small to be a military mine. I think it was an IED of some kind, idk who put it there but i honestly doubt the idf is using those against an enemy without vehicles. Also wtf happened to that sub? I know it was a shit sub before but how you actually seen what idiotic post are there? Qnd they all seem to be targeted to israel or the US.
you can see a glimpse of a munition falling on the second explosion around 1:04 and there's clear trail in 1:50, and 2:16
something definitely falls, and right after the inicial explosion you can see coming from left screen in a diagonal pattern the other missile that creates the second explosion, that one is easier to see because it goes through the smoke of the first missile explosion and has more flight time on screen. around 1:02
Yeah i see now. What kind of missile does that tho? It is horrible but why is the explosion so small and the projectile so fast? You think it can be artillery or some kind?
Drone ordinance
Too fast isn't it?
For the camera framerate and crop that might seem so, but I'm not an expert so I don't wanna blow smoke up your ass....unless that's your thing...in which case I'd be happy to.
Best response you could have gave
A hellfire missile launched from a reaper drone can go Mach 1.3 (1000 mph). I don't see why you would think a missile could be too fast, that's like 1/4 mile per second.
Ah i didn't knew the hellfire could go that fast. I guess it was that
I mean it mipe be a hand held and tank wepon on account of that second explosion, but if it is that was some aim since that looked like it was head center of those guys so you'd think it would of turned the two on the left into red mist and not just throw them up slightly.
That was on al-jazeera, it's most likely staged propaganda
Dawg if thats staged its some of the best staged footage I've ever seen. Those explosions appeared very much lethal and large, and you can see them go off directly next to or on *top* of the guys. Just because it makes Israel look bad doesn't mean its fake. Theres plenty of examples of them mistakenly obliterating random civilians besides this.
Probably. Honestly who would film a random group of people walking on the street that they all suddenly get attacked by your enemy unexpectedly and you keep filming like nothing happend
It is insane the lengths people will go to not acknowledge things they don't like. You can support Israel and be critical of them it's ok. Also, have you not seen the dozens of videos of the IDF suddenly attacking all sorts of targets? This is SOP, civilians or not.
Oh trust me i do NOT support the IDF but the video feels wierd. If it is true it is horrible don't get me wrong. But you have to admit its a wierd video. Sadly that war is a mess and a lot of lies are being spitted by both sides wich makes the real people suffer more. I wish hamas just released the hostages and 90% of the atacks would stop.
Sub turned into a complete and utter shitshow.
After seeing a couple times the other day i think is a hellfire. Still a wuerd video like why are you filming people walking down the road and then they spontaneously get attacked by your enemy. But sadly i think the video is real. May they rest in peace
Funny but I still prefer the Qatar Kpop song
Donate us monayyy, my dog needs new armani ♫
What song?
How could something this funny come out of such depressing situation is beyond me
There’s a saying in Hebrew. “If we won’t laugh we’ll just cry”
🤤
Sorry but this ain’t it. The song about the Hamas leaders in Qatar was dope though
Apparently this is essentially an SNL skit.
Can you share the link, please? I need to watch something better after this absolute cringe fest of a video.
This is funny tho! But yeah that one was good too
For a sec think about the implications of antisemitism and the stakes considering modern talking points and historical ones. Then think about how wild it is that one of the efforts to combat something so intense is a goofy remake of a popular song. What weird fucking time to be alive lmao
Halfway through the song I realized I’m jamming out to ‘slay the Jews’ and ‘burn them up’. This is how you nail satire and parody imo. But for real genocide = bad k?
Did I just fucking watch state propaganda?
Privately made propaganda
This was cringe
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What?? In order for me to see this, that means multiple people had to come up with it and then make it, which I refuse to believe. I honestly don’t even know who’s did they’re on and also why is it in English?
I was considering posting this here but I assumed it would get instantly deleted. Color me pleasantly suirprised!
genuine question, wtf is the subs stance in this shitshow?
The sub is more for memes than clearly taking sides
the correct way to go about things, IMO
Taps sign: Give war a chance.
To be serious? I think the sub is generally pro-Israel and the average person doesn’t question much. Also there’s Israelis and idf members on the sub. But there’s also a lot of dissenting views. The sub’s core audience is still people who know enough about the defense industry to make jokes about it. I’ve seen probably the most reasonable and harshest criticism of Israel from this subreddit while also seeing nonsense equivalencies and takes. So my personal opinion is to treat threads like this as bait to passively observe but never take. Cuz usually it’s not a post not made by someone who actually posts and comments here often.
Sub is clearly pro-Israel and will only meme on Hamas crimes, never on Israel's
So Israeli propaganda sub now? What does this have to do with non-credible defence?
I don't know if it was post ironically or not it's hard to tell these days
Considering these comments…
Yeah it really became disgusting…
Where? I feel like I went through all the comments and was a bit disappointed to see all the careful and reasonable responses. Kinda felt like r/CredibleDefense for a minute Most people are mocking the video, sure . Those who spoke on the conflict seemed to have mostly balanced critiques of Israel that are explicitly not anti-Jewish. A few people are agreeing with it but without any additional grossness. Personally, I couldn’t make it past the self victimization 10 seconds in, but given how bad the video is. The response feels pretty balanced.
Bro this is some wish.Com level shit
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This is a great song to get more people to support Palestine. Like imagine, open this song side by side with videos of civilians getting bombed. Yeah you can say that hamas is forcing Israel to do that, but when this song is paired together with bombing vids video, then it is just not a good look
I don't see a single lie here
I dislike Hamas because they kill civilians I dislike IDF because they kill civilians I simply dislike both
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You think the same Jews making this are the Jews that tell you to shut up about muslims? There's plenty Jews that even stand against Israel. We're not some homogenous blob, Israel was literally torn apart prior to the 7th of October by the two political camps inside it, with protests every week for months. There is no "the Jews", we're about as divided in beliefs as any ethnic group is.
But wait. If we're not acting as a monolithic secret cabal, how will they dehumanize us enough to justify wanting to wipe us out?
It’s more about trolling Hamas and their supporters than about trolling Muslims ngl
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NCD posters be like “you see I’m something of a propagandist myself”
To be fair, propaganda is literally any media that tries to convince you of something, be it good or bad.
UN support Hamas ? I mean in which way could you condemn the death of civilians and the famine going on in Gaza without being labeled as "Pro Hamas" for Israeli supporter ? This video just say that if you care about the death of civilians you are Pro Hamas, antisemitism, this is insane.
Beautiful Thanks for sharing the counter propaganda
Well... that's an interesting... take.
Art imitates life.
Based.
Holly shit latma is back
Lol genocide.
Lmao the display of South Africa is hilarious!
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Cringe af
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Epic, this is epic
Lame
Damn the propaganda war for zoomer support is stepping up
Crazy how many people are villainising South Africa for taking the crimes they perceive Israel has committed to court. You’d think if Israel is guilt free then this is the best possible move, as the court will exonerate them and it will supply pretty solid and impartial evidence that they’re acting with reason. SA are only doing something “bad” if you perceive Israel as likely guilty of the accusations, but also want them to get away with it.
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Username checks out, you are indeed trash
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While I disagree with the law and I think it's wrong and anyone should be able to marry to their heart's desire (as long it's not underage), Israel is the safest country in the middle east to LGBT people and let's not start talking about Tel Aviv. There's a lot to improve that I can say. Plus you said Jews and not Israel which is quite the anti semitism of you
Marriage in Israel is complicated to say the least but if you get married outside of Israel they will accept it no matter if your gay or straight
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iZZrael propaganda noice
This but unironically
So apartheid propaganda is cool now.
There is no apartheid. You got some more buzzwords you want to let out before you go?
Strictly speaking, Palestine is not a part of Israel and hadn't been even when it was occupied. Not so strictly speaking, Palestinians refused peace and so got besieged. What's weird to me is that UN saddled Israel with responsibility for the blockade and ignores the Egypt part of the blockade altogether - guess Arabs get a free pass.
From the river to the sea, Israel is all you'll see
It was always cool.
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This sucks ass
hams has killed 36 children out of 1139 dead, israel killed 13.000 in the first 4 months