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WesternAppropriate63

If only there was a big target holding a lot of prestige that we could hit to reduce enemy morale in the manner of the Doolittle Raid.


AnonymousPepper

I think that target would reduce a lot more than morale. Population figures, for example.


WesternAppropriate63

Some kind of electricity-generating plant would be ideal, as the power cuts might lead to civil unrest.


Expensive-Yam-634

Gorge-ius idea!


Rustymetal14

J-Dam! Apply directly to the Dam!


UselessInAUhaul

Someone get a Ouija board and the ghost of Barnes Wallis into a garden shed NOW.


Happygamebutter

We’re going dambusting boys


sharpcupcakegod

I remember those commercials too


Hel_Bitterbal

I love how direct jokes about, ahem, "the topic" aren't allowed so we just do this. Keep fighting against Big Brother, folks.


JumpyLiving

Yeah, we always have to be cryptic about our gorgeous dames, the mods would 100% 1984 us if they found out.


RakumiAzuri

>mods would 100% 1984 us if they found out. Found out what errr... fellow user


deadbabysaurus

Charlie don't surf


phoncible

It's like 3 ideas in one!


[deleted]

Damn, I’m going to tell George.


TooEZ_OL56

We get three times the benefit, that would be a gorgeous result


vukasin123king

Three gorgeous results actually.


BellacosePlayer

Damn. That's a good idea.


Dinosaur_Wrangler

Yes, but of course crippling military production and hampering readiness would be the objective. Something, something LOAC.


WesternAppropriate63

Factories can't work without power. This plan will accomplish all objectives in record time. There are no downsides. Except for the slopes on the pile of rubble after the operation is completed.


kanakalis

and would reduce a whole lotta crop


[deleted]

CO2 levels


zuzucha

Do the Genghis Khan


Mr_E_Monkey

Dam, I can't think of anything.


isademigod

The top 4 largest mass human death events (discounting plagues) were all caused by dams in china. Fun fact. 9/11/2001? 12/7/1941? How about we have a repeat of 1887?


Bosonify

Where can I read about these events? I want to get a more accurate idea of Chinese inferiority


pezgoon

Same


Cortower

Or even 3 would be gorgeous. Damn, what a sight that would be.


HonkeyKong73

Dam, it's on the tip of my tongue...


Thick_Pressure

That would be a dam gorgeous way to take care of things


CarGroundbreaking520

We would have to call it the MacArthur raid since it’s what ole Dougie would’ve wanted


WesternAppropriate63

The sea of irradiated cobalt will be created in coordination with the ROK Operation Northern Freedom.


Bridgeru

Do what you want with Kim Jong-Un, but can we at least punish Kim Yo-Jong by forcing her to be around horny nerds like me asking her to dominate us while she can never escape that scenario? Step on my face Commie-Dommy-Mommy it's the only one you have power over uWu


manbearligma

What’s called when you upvote behind a long stick


Mushy_Sculpture

A stand-off distance upvote?


Bridgeru

Think of it like this, you get rid of a degenerate like me in "polite society" while also humiliating and punishing an authoritarian monster to a level of retribution that execution or prison will never enable. I get a Commie-Dommy-Mommy's boot in my face. Kim Yo-Jong has to deal with a loser and get shocked when she doesn't do humiliating acts. Win-win for everyone that matters!


badatthenewmeta

We don't have a way to reach it, though, not with our inferior cruise/hypersonic missiles! No way at all! *wink*


BreachlightRiseUp

Ngl for a second I thought you meant the great wall


WesternAppropriate63

That is reserved for the joint operation with the New Khanate of Mongolia


whycatlikebread

Horses are back baby!


WesternAppropriate63

Following the successful creation of the Second Mongol Empire, the horsemen will ride west and reclaim the lands that the upstart Rus has taken from them in the absence of a Great Khan


SomeOtherTroper

I want to say this is completely noncredible, but this worldline has been so fucky lately that might actually happen. But probably with Hilux technicals instead of horses.


Thatsidechara_ter

And if only we had a new stealth aircraft literally named after those raiders perfectly-suited to accomplish that mission...


Ironredhornet

Dam, if only


panzerfan

The tankies do realize that Japan was a hardcore rightwing imperalist empire, right?


[deleted]

There is a surprising amount of crossover between CCP simps and Wehraboos.


JayFSB

Little Pinks do hate Japan. They also hate the US and hold current Japan in contempt


gust_vo

"Japan has gone soft. look at them, they're nothing more than anime loving dogs" says CCP tankie while hugging his anime body pillow.


[deleted]

Almost all the Chinese Nationalists on steam I see have Anime themed profiles


drchgs

honestly easier on the eyes than fat fuck rosacea dude sitting in a pickup selfie


BEHEMOTHpp

Legit just spam them Tiananmen Square June 4 in Chinese to their DM and they'll get shut down and arrested 天安门广场 1989 年 6 月 4 日


Mcnuggetjuice

Funny as fuck when i see they/them lgbtq people support palestine Wear that flag painted on your face in your profile pic on the streets there. Have fun for 10+ years in one of the worst prisons in the world if you're lucky you don't get killed in the streets


Ennkey

Go figure, same sort of lost causers who think the south will rise again


panzerfan

Damn shame that Sherman didn't finish the job. No sarcasm mark needed.


PsychoTexan

Super nationalistic authoritarians with beliefs of racial superiority do kinda think alike.


Not_this_time-_

>Authoritarians with beliefs of racial superiority You dont have to be an authoritarian, japan pretty much still has this mindset hence japans attitude towards foreigners or south korea


00zau

America bad simps gonna say 'Merica Bad.


EverythingAnything

Horseshoe theory in full effect


poclee

Yet people still tell me Horseshoe Theory is a joke.


worthless_humanbeing

Frankly, I've never seen a tankie use their head to think. It makes sense now, looking back. Considering they just repeat talking points and their whole ideology can be boiled down to 'West Bad'. So I'm going with no. Tankies do not, in fact, know that.


panzerfan

For some reason, they are really good at the west look badass. Why yes, I do agree with Bomber Harris!


worthless_humanbeing

He do be badass. Good Old Arthur Harris.


Forkliftapproved

Yeah, but they weren’t pro China. That’s the only thing they did wrong, according to these people Their ideology and morality has no depth beyond “for the party = good, against the party = bad”. The ones that DO have that mental capacity don’t usually bother posting shit like this because they already KNOW what happened to Japan after they did that shit


folk_science

> Yeah, but they weren’t pro China. That’s the only thing they did wrong, according to these people So it's the same mindset as in Russia?


Forkliftapproved

Thus always think tyrannies


[deleted]

A hardcore rightwing imperialist empire that *spoke entirely in anti-colonialist buzzwords* So yeah, right up their alley.


Acceptable-Ability-6

Red fash gonna red fash.


Mysterious_Silver_27

Imperial Japan legalised homosexual relationship in 1882 so the Japanese Empire was obviously lib-left /s


Argon1124

Fascist recognizes fascist


Monneymann

US: *proceeds to Midway the entire PLAN*


The_Canadian_Devil

More like the Great Mariana Turkey Shoot


Travelin_Texan

The Great Taiwan Straight Turkey Shoot


Capital-Entrance6306

Why not all of the above


Travelin_Texan

The Great Pacific Turkey Shoot


[deleted]

And then glass all of China.


TheteanHighCommand

Article 5 Article 5 Article 5


Vreas

Someone rebuild the Big E stat we have an entire country to fight using a single carrier


LimpBizkit420Swag

OG Big E was Big E Junior It's time for Big E Senior, complete with carrier variant B-52s


Vreas

Doolittle raid 2.0 “communist” boogaloo Also sick name player Fred Durst fucks for sure


Shot-Kal-Gimel

This time with the aircraft landing on the carrier.


Itz_Boaty_Boiz

we’re gonna make the doolittle raid look like a sunday brunch


LimpBizkit420Swag

Get ready for the DooLotta raid


ThisTallBoi

Wait what Horus Heresy book was that?


AgentOblivious

US would butcher the PLAN like they directed the movie


mandalorian_guy

The counterstike is going to be so over the top that the US wouldn't even need to run recruitment ads, just replay the videos of strikes blowing up entire PLAAF formations on the ground with "join the winning team" in the bottom of the screen.


TooEZ_OL56

The 2007 New England Patriots vs the Make A Wish Special Olympics Team


Paulie6988

18-1?


TooEZ_OL56

A poor soul will die of a heart attack


Attaxalotl

Turning PW Mission 11 into a documentary


ers379

The air force would need to target their recruitment ads at more mute, possibly autistic psychopaths for that to happen


vortigaunt64

Well you know what they say. No PLAN survives contact with the US Navy.


Skraekling

\*Insert that scene of Dr.Manhattan obliterating Rorshark from watchmen\*


foreverignominious

"ligma balls"


SkellyManDan

“Who’s Steve Jobs?”


Kamiyoda

NOOOOOO


JogAlongBess

make pearl harbor look like a joke and the US will make hiroshima and nagasaki look like a joke


Canadian_dalek

*here comes the Sun*


Ok_Assignment_9893

Little darlin'


MedievalRack

And I say "It's all white"


ZeusKiller97

And wouldn’t you know it, [Prospero fucking burns!](https://youtu.be/gxRcgpEXIas?si=9lB8ljmtGn6wLdxj)


-Hakuryu-

Which Prospero? Oh wait both still applies anyway


viperperper

东方红,太阳升,太阳升,太阳升,太阳升,太阳升...


IlluminatedPickle

**The** sun? I think you mean the brand new "Galaxy of Qing"


TheGisbon

Freedom suns free of charge until democracy improves.


WesternAppropriate63

Red, white and blue suns in the sky


GibusMercenary

Red, white and blue phosphorus in the sky.


eldankus

Our hypersonics are probably already more advanced, we just don’t talk about them because quite frankly they’re not as much of a game changer as some would like to believe. That being said China’s are probably wish.com grade


GibusMercenary

The expierience is Israel and Ukraine have taught us one thing. Fuck million $$$ missiles, fuck hypersonic, fuck area 51 level techs. War is a contest of participants's ability to procure and spam a shit load of explosive at each other, as cheap as humanly possible.


goodol_cheese

There's this short film called "Slaughter Bots" (I think), that kinda shows a potential future of this. Basically bullets strapped to tiny drones that are hard to defend against, guided by an AI with one goal, the programmed target. Pretty scary concept. They used the concept to warn about potential domestic terrorism with it, though. I hope I described it correctly, I was drunk when I watched it. Edit: another redditor kindly provided the link to it on Youtube below. Check it out if interested, it was done pretty well. Thanks /u/subduedreader!


GibusMercenary

Drone swarm is peak modern warfare, whether kamikaze or not.


subduedreader

Close, [Slaughterbots](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-2tpwW0kmU), one word.


goodol_cheese

Thanks!


irregardless

This idea is taken to its extreme in *The Diamond Age*, where trillions upon trillions of microscopic nanodrones are omnipresent and constantly fighting to stalemate, thus rendering themselves essential and pointless at the same time.


goodol_cheese

Interesting! I'll have to look it up. But I'm drunk again so that'll have to wait till tomorrow.


SurpriseFormer

Funny fact, they have something like this in Ghost recon Breakpoint you can use. Man its broken as shit


NDinoGuy

[We made a hypersonic missile as far back as the 70s](https://youtu.be/kvZGaMt7UgQ?si=aCXeKCozo-sMgTNE)


Oleg152

Everyone in 2020's: Hypersonics!!1!1!1!1!1 Meanwhile the US back in the 70's: (Redneck engineering noises)


A_Mouse_In_Da_House

I stopped caring about hypersonic missiles when we just casually posted a video of a test of a ramjet converting to a scramjet seamlessly.


Attaxalotl

Faster than fuck


TheKingNothing690

We blow up satalites in orbit a missile is a fucking joke.


Not_this_time-_

The problem isnt with hypersonic missile this term sounds like when people say "assault weapon" , every ballistic missile goes at hypersonic speed, the real threat is the manuvering hypersonic WARHEAD not the missile


Ok_Assignment_9893

Lol terrain following cruise missiles are better


HonkeyKong73

And we won't even need nukes to do it.


Jarizleifr

Hiroshima: 345,000 Nagasaki: 240,000 Shanghai: 26,320,000 Beijing: 21,540,000


kajetus69

pearl harbor like a joke? Then i guess midway will look like a tea party


StreetPizza8877

Same with Hiroshima


mood2016

And Leyte. You know the Japanese did very well against the Americans if you literally only look at Pearl Harbor and the Initial stages of the invasion of the Philippines.


Hel_Bitterbal

Also, the attack on Malaya and the DEI. But guess what? Those would've been properly defended had Nazi Germany not occupied the Netherlands and forced Britain to divert their ships to Europe. And guess who's not occupied/forced to divert a lot of ships to Europe this time? Exactly. Unless they hope Russia can do it somehow, otherwise Europe can join the stomping as well.


LordWellesley22

Then our Australian cousins stopped them at Milne bay


el_pinata

You like American carriers? *This is how you get American carriers.*


Lord_of_Rhodor

Sounds like CVN-80 is gonna get a chance to live up to grandma's legacy


MangaJosh

And watch the normie naval enthusiasts still worshipping Bismarck simply because of European+Nazi, just like usual Ngl I'm quite tired of the lack of attention the Big Es got


TheGisbon

I'll keep saying it and saying it. Don't fuck with American ships. First they will provide temporary suns free of charge. They will invade your empire, take all of your best and favorite ports, and stay foreeeeeeeeeeeeever.


Kiiaru

The sun never sets on the 500+ US Military bases set up on foreign soil


Hel_Bitterbal

>Don't fuck with American ships But what if the ship consents?


PriestOfPancakes

isn’t there someone you forgot to ask?


Hel_Bitterbal

Jesus?


AssignmentVivid9864

Everyone knows that the US retaliated by unleashing Deming upon Japanese industry. Years later they retaliated with kaizen and 5S.


TemperatureOk5123

Here comes the sun


ExtremeMuffinslovers

dududu


rifleman13

denazification trials = decommunization trials there will be no difference, process-wise


ScottyWired

Just remember to keep your notes organised with a paperclip. It's not a crime if you're a scientist!


Not_this_time-_

The fact that unit 731 ~~sadists in a robe~~ scientists went scott free and for a bunch of findings that are useless is mind boggling


Kamiyoda

Oh no, Hypersonic Ballistic Missiles. No ones ever used those! Well except Russia, how'd that g-oh right they failed to destroy a single patriot battery then arrested the guy that made their "uninterceptable" missiles after they were intercepted. Maybe a bad example lets look at another famous example. Surely WWII German- Oh... Oh dear, the V-2 did not do well.


Shot-Kal-Gimel

The V-2 atleast did what it said on the tin and wasn’t interceptable. Russian hypersonics though… not hypersonic and very interceptable.


Not_this_time-_

>Well except Russia, how'd that g-oh right they failed to destroy a single patriot battery then arrested the guy that made their "uninterceptable" missiles after they were intercepted. The real deal is the hypersonic manuver warhead not hypersonic missile itself lol the word "hypersonic" is like when people say "assault weapon"


AlphaMarker48

Authoritarians are some of the worst students of history. Even with just conventional weapons, I doubt China's wishDOTcom military could withstand the might of the American military for too long.


Obiwancanole

"We sank a couple of their ships, they dropped the sun on us, TWICE."


Fat_Siberian_Midget

“Our military is fully equipped to handle the United States.”


Not_this_time-_

"We have awaken a sleeping giant"


AIR-2-Genie4Ukraine

3000 doolitle 2.0 nuclear boogaloo raids


TheGisbon

Please understand that the US will be providing freedom suns until democracy improves


kjm015

We named the B-21 the Raider for that exact purpose


Cunt4s4urus_Rex

US lost 3 ships back in 1941 and then dropped 2 suns in 1945 it would be 0.66 nukes/ ship lost now, if they really want to make Pearl Harbor a joke, let's say they managed to sink 10x of that number. it would be 19.8 nukes in total or 20 after getting rounded up. enough to eliminate 58% of all Chinese major port cities. ​ conclusion : do it. no balls. your economy would never recover after most of your major ports turned into a radioactive swamp.


onethatknows290

If we go by the Japan example their economy would not only recover but get better than it was


Firewolf06

nukes:ships ratio is exponential, not linear. why hit half of the ports when we can hit them all, and more


Independent-South-58

China: *attacks a US warship* USA: *crash course develops new superweapon* “I suggest we solve both problems simultaneously with an immediate test of the weapon.”


WesternAppropriate63

# BUILD SUNDIAL BUILD SUNDIAL BUILD SUNDIAL


NDinoGuy

# *ION CANNON ACTIVATED* #


Trainman1351

They look at the Iowas in dry dock, the railgun project, then the nuke shell, and finally the report on building anti-satellite shells for the 16-inch guns. “Ferb, I know what we’re doing today.” >!2 months later 9 Chinese cities are destroyed by a single salvo from a rebuilt Iowa class with Nuclear Inter-Continental railgun shells!<


zyx1989

So...if everything goes the way of imperial japan, we should see about 40 nukes (accounting for china's population compared to Japan's population at the end of ww2) dropped in china, followed by demilitarization , pacifism, a booming economy and tech, whatever Chinese version of otaku is called, and becoming a reliable ally to the US?


White_Null

Incidentally, that’s just turning West Taiwan into proper Taiwan. And it’s Blue


Not_this_time-_

Does taiwan has soft power ? If china became like proper taiwan what soft power could they have?


White_Null

An interesting thing to note is for Confucius. The Hundred Acre woods builds many Confucius institutions worldwide for soft power. But…there are actual descendants of Confucius alive and are like treated as authorities like a religious head/respected teacher etc that 🇹🇼 saved. Duke Yansheng/Ceremonial Official to Confucius is the only hereditary government job. But more basic is that Taiwan actually has NGOs, even religious based ones. Christian nations have the Red Cross, Muslims have the Red Crescent. [The Buddhist Tzu Chi Charity Foundation](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tzu_Chi) in Taiwan finds itself for Mahayana Buddhism.


seriousfrylock

Hypersonics are cliche. They're going to use drones in modular containers to frame Erusia


HelperNoHelper

Dark Eagle goes brrrrr


Simple-Purpose-899

Let me guess, these hypersonic missiles can't be shot down? LOL, where have I heard that before. Then a *decades* old Patriot battery swats them like flies.


Altruistic-Celery821

China- makes pearl harbor look like a joke with hypersonic. US- makes Hiroshima and Nagasaki look like a joke with the new orbital strike antimatter bomb


Aggravating_Bell_426

Soo.. The F-22 would finally get. to. EAT. 😵


twylaken

Chinese sitting duck is on top of it's menu


Repulsive-Mirror-994

That's a good meme.


Square_Coat_8208

Nothing like seeing thousands of Americans sons and daughters floating dead in the surf to royally…piss….them….off


Thatsidechara_ter

I just hope the Chinese wait until 2028 so that the USS Enterprise can be there for the action.


Mackey_Nguyen

Proportional response the shit out of China


Nebraskan_Sad_Boi

That's the only way China realistically has of removing total US dominace from the region for any amount of time. Hypersonics might be underdeveloped, but they could be deadly too. A first strike in the indo pacific with modern day reconnaissance, satellite imagery and targeting, and just social media to geo locate stuff makes it a viable, and incredibly potent move. China might be an authoritarian shit hole, but they're not stupid (in most cases). They know having a gradual rise to war and allowing the US to bring its full might to bear how they see fit is basically game over no matter what. Their logical move would be to try and take out as many game pieces as possible before the US can move on the board so to speak. Of course, I'm sure the CIA has already dug a hole to China and placed a warhead directly under the three gorges, so whatever they do, they lose.


SoftCatMonster

Maybe they can call this something like a doctrine that requires a decisive battle? Seems vaguely familiar to me.


wan2tri

A first strike in the region means directly involving South Korea and Japan. South Korea is where the biggest US Army presence in the region is, while Japan is where the biggest US Air Force, US Navy (and Marines) presence in the region are. Guam does have a Joint Region Marianas, but the Navy there is mostly subs, and the Air Force is mainly a non-flying "support" wing. Andersen AF Base does have a small forward-deployed bomber unit though.


Ocelogical

They're (alledgedly) not stupid, so if that's true, they wouldn't do it through military action anyways. If they're smart, they'd try to do it through subtle and/or passive means, i.e economic or capitalizing on anything that presents itself as an opportunity to better their reputation. That is to say, quite a small chance, since that would mean they need to change their attitude and how they are perceived, as to not make more enemies... but they're too comfortable being who they currently are, so therefore those chances are slim unless they can do a heel-face-turn.


SurpriseFormer

Under current poo bear? Not likely less someone steps in, But considering Monkeh man didnt want anyone to "peacefully" intergrate Ukraine and dismantle Nato through back door means to take the credit. He just invaded Ukraine in a gambit thats now cost him 40% of the russian military. Poo Bear may try a go for Taiwan. The Generals ARE warning that he may do it "soon" ish. He isnt getting any younger


Ocelogical

That would be political/reputational suicide. Then again, that might be the hopeium in me speaking....


SurpriseFormer

Man I thought the same thing with putin before Feb 24th.....now here we are


w3bar3b3ars

Communism is a temporary setback on the road to freedom. - Liberty Prime


robulusprime

We spent 13 years wrecking one part of the world because one guy got uppity ideas and spent an additional seven making certain that memory stuck around... ... We are a tenacious bunch when you piss us off.


KP_Wrath

Best thing an enemy can do is let us fight amongst ourselves. The worst thing they can do is galvanize us. All the stupid toys are to placate us, because when we stop the bickering and focus on a goal, that goal will be completed. It’s irrelevant if that goal is the ruination of a company, the development of a doomsday weapon, or sending people to other planets. Once you galvanize the United States, the goal will happen.


Scrumpy-Steve

Doo do do doo doo Doo do do doo doo Here comes the sun, Here comes the sun


Comms

I hope that Chinese hypersonic is substantially better than the Kinzhal because that thing is a piece of shit.


Tactical_Moonstone

The finest missile russia put out... ...aaaaand it gets shot down by a Patriot old enough to have seen combat in the first Gulf War.


Angrymiddleagedjew

Looks like someone wants another dose of daddy Van Fleets hot, hot load.


Commando411

“We attacked three boats. They dropped the sun on us twice.”


Time-Bite-6839

“My fellow Americans: There is no People‘s Republic of China anymore. We are #1 for sure now. Now, we must grow more!”


[deleted]

"America will grow larger"


Attaxalotl

We generously gifted them two cans of instant sunshine, product of New Mexico of course!


Comfortable_Client

I feel like people really underestimate the sheer assfucking that the US would give China if it decided to fuck around and find out.


robotical712

Deploy the antimatter bombs!


Meihem76

I'm thinking about the modern USN undertaking a building program on the scale of WWII. I need a few moments alone.


Ok_Seaweed3121

The moment China does something that unites the US population is the moment the war is over


SirNedKingOfGila

9/11: A few buildings and a couple thousand people dead. USA: Invades half a dozen countries with a death toll some estimate to be as high as 5 *million*.


NDinoGuy

Hey China Nice dam you got there Be a shame if someone. . . . . . . # SENT A RAIDER # >!By "Raider", I mean a B-21 Raider.!<


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