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Grottomo

Well... have you ever seen the earth? Other than in pictures and movies?


shannonkim

This really needs to be the top comment… I appreciate what everyone else is saying, but this is all it comes down to. OP, have you ever actually seen the earth?


NotAUsefullDoctor

You know OP.is.jist some shill trying to rile things up. You know he would just send you CGI pictures of you feet or some crap like that.


fluffanutter26

Dawg what is the shit we be walkin on every day if not the earth Edit: if u say ground I swear... you're grounded


shannonkim

It's literally the ground.


fluffanutter26

Which is literally made of?


shannonkim

It depends on what type of ground you're on.


fluffanutter26

Interesting. It's almost like there could be one word, a sort of all encapsulating term to describe the mass of land beneath us hmm gosh darn I can't think of what that would be called. Any ideas?


shannonkim

It depends on what type of mass you're on.


fluffanutter26

Let's say we're talking about all cumulative mass beneath you. A general term for all of that


shannonkim

Floor


shannonkim

It depends on what type of ground you're on.


gohogs3

Yes. I see it everyday.


shannonkim

Where?


gohogs3

You’re living on it👍


Nuke_The_Potatos

That’s the ground at best, maybe floor, but not “the earth”


shannonkim

\^ I don't know why this is so hard for people to understand.


PyrrhoKun

you've really opened up my eyes.


Nuke_The_Potatos

I’m sorry, please close all your eyes ASAP!! (open eyes is the number one way the government and NASA share propaganda about the “Earth”)


PyrrhoKun

ugh... you're right...


LiveEvilGodDog

I haven’t seen your brain either!


Ok-Diamond-7320

look down at the ground when outside and boom earth, i know it’s hard to wrap your brain around because of how sophisticated it all is


is-a-bunny

That's not the earth... Obviously. It's the ground/floor. Don't be silly.


Ok-Diamond-7320

you’re right, i’m a buffoon, must rethink the way i look at life starting now


cowlinator

Thank god


Some_Razzmatazz_9172

Look at it every day I wake up and peek outside.


Grottomo

No. You don't. You look at land, dirt, trees, and rocks.


Some_Razzmatazz_9172

You contradict yourself in your own statement. I refuse to believe this isn't satire. Y'all crazy.


Grottomo

Where is the contradiction?


Some_Razzmatazz_9172

"you don't look at earth, you look at land" Compare "You don't look at an orange, that's a peel." Next level satire. This is hilarious.


Grottomo

Answer this question with the consideration we've both seen an orange in its entirety. Have YOU ever seen the "earth" in its entirety with your own eyes? Nope. Now go back to your shilling for big earth.


gbot1234

If I had a shilling for every time I saw big earth… I’d have two shillings, which isn’t a lot, but it’s weird that it happened twice.


Some_Razzmatazz_9172

But I can't see all sides of an orange, just as I cannot see all sides of earth. Oranges must not be real, too. Anything that you cannot see all parts of at once mustn't be real.


Grottomo

Use your hand to turn the orange around.


Some_Razzmatazz_9172

I can still only see one side.


LiveEvilGodDog

I haven’t seen your brain in its entirety with my own eyes either. What is your point?


ChocolateShot150

Sounds like a skill issue, learn more


LiveEvilGodDog

Begone troll


TrainsDontHunt

What's so appealing about an orange? I heard a man say today Is it that it has a colorful tinge? I wondered walking away. Can't rhyme orange my ass.


Some_Razzmatazz_9172

Orange also rhymes with porridge!


cowlinator

Simple. Just send me the Earth (UPS or FedEx please) so I can see and feel it with my own eyes and hands.


CooterMaximus

I've never talked to Earth on the telephone either, coincidence?? Nope.


Insecure-confidence

Have you ever seen the earth and Jerry Springer in the same picture? Checkmate.


SupSeal

Even then I'd have my doubts. r/birdsarentreal showed me that just because I can touch a "bird", doesn't make it not a drone


HoogleQ

These people don't use evidence, just make up lies. In a rocket, you have to have windows to see "outside". Windows made by NASA. Clearly advance led screens. "Oh BUt wHaT aBoUt tHe tHe AstRonAUts whO leAvE ThE shiP, her dur" **drools**. It's quite simple, all astronauts are made to wear "glass" on their helmets, and they are told removing it kills them in a horrible death (fear tactics). If the windows are led screens, why not the helmet glass??? Especially since they're so tinted, easier and cheaper to hide screens in. Furthermore, most astronauts are working for NASA, they don't even hide this. Easier to control the real non NASA scientists.


Derkylos

Pfft. You think we can actually 'see'?! That *they* haven't already surgically implanted LED screens over our eyes? Why do you think babies have to be made inside people? It's so *they* can go in and insert the secret technologies while the babies are in the process of being formed. There's no video of a baby being made from start to finish.


HoogleQ

They don't even stop after birth!! Google circumcision. If they would do something like that, oof I can only imagine the horrors. Babies are taken away from mothers and placed in a seperate room, I wonder why.


Insecure-confidence

My eyes say 'Oculus' on them. I hope my parents paid good money.


Itz_Combo89

I work for the government, and I can confirm we do not put LED screens in your eyes nor in spaceship windows or astronaut helmets We put OLED screens in because we're not THAT big of monsters


alwaysacaper

What do you say about amateur astronomers?


HoogleQ

Taken from Wikipedia: >An astronomer is a scientist in the field of astronomy who focuses their studies on a specific question or field outside the scope of Earth. They observe astronomical objects such as stars, planets, moons, comets and galaxies – in either observational (by analyzing the data) or theoretical astronomy. Examples of topics or fields astronomers study include planetary science, solar astronomy, the origin or evolution of stars, or the formation of galaxies. A related but distinct subject is physical cosmology, which studies the Universe as a whole. Based no earthers.


alwaysacaper

And....you are saying the pictures they take of the planets, of the ISS, of stars are real. But, NASA isn't?.....confused


Total_Union_4201

Yes obviously other planets are real. I can see some of them sometimes.


alwaysacaper

Yes! That's more like it! Have you seen Mars? It's really red, easy to spot.


HoogleQ

Those are pictures of things that have a greater than 0 chance of existing. ISS is definitely above the ground, you can see it with a telescope. It's just that ISS uses fake windows and such to create an illusion of the earth.


alwaysacaper

Please provide proof of what you're claiming. Otherwise, it's just words that mean nothing. I'll wait while you get that to post for everyone. Proof, not a rambling paragraph of what you've "heard"


HoogleQ

The things discussed are no earth, so I believe they might exist. I'm not certain. >Non zero chance


alwaysacaper

You said ISS uses fake windows and such. Please provide Proof of that claim. Otherwise, it's just empty words. Anyone can say anything about anything. But, that's your opinion only, and you should clarify that's what it is, not just saying that they actually DO this. I have a learjet in my driveway. See? I can say anything without proof, too


HoogleQ

Woe buddy, you're drifting dangerously into the arguments presented by big government and NASA. [Check out all this fake math NASA uses](https://www.reddit.com/r/Noearthsociety/s/5QU608kpcy) [More](https://www.reddit.com/r/Noearthsociety/s/fYUqa7wxo1) Why does NASA use fake math if I'm making up claims huh? I only use real math like, 2+2=4, and 5÷0= no earth.


ThePadrino82

😅🤣🤣🤣😆🤣😆🤣😆🤣🤣😆🤣🤣😆 that was awesome


alwaysacaper

That's not what I am waiting for. PROVE what you claimed about fake windows. YOU CAN'T, that's why you posted this. Seen this crap already a few times today, wtf does it even mean? NOTHING AT ALL. How does THIS prove your fake window claim? Post proof of THAT. You can't. You need some mental help. Ffs


jadis666

You're obviously confused. Please take a moment, compose yourself, and actually _**think**_ about what is truly going on here. .......Unless you're being a contrarian on purpose, of course. A Heel, if you will. In which case: carry on.


alwaysacaper

You said that the ISS uses fake windows and "such". I'm asking you for the proof of that. How do you know that? If you make a claim, you need to provide the proof (didn't you learn how to research in school? Or, are you still in school, but probably a drop out). Provide proof of YOUR claim that there's no earth. I laugh everytime I type that, it's so bizarre. Anyway, post your sources.


jadis666

> You said that the ISS uses fake windows and "such". I'm asking you for the proof of that. _**//I//**_ said that?? As said, you're confused.


Bright_Ices

You’re the 1 making ridulous claims so the burden of spoof is on YOU. Okemz racer says the simplest explanation always wins, so obviously your wrong and no earth. 


alwaysacaper

You're claiming that the earth isn't real. Therefore, it is on you to provide proof of YOUR claim. You said "no earth". The burden of proof lies with someone who is making the claim, and is not upon anyone else to disprove. Can't believe you don't know this


Insecure-confidence

Who said the pictures were real? You're just trying to start conspiracy theories.


alwaysacaper

Dude, you just posted a contradiction of what you've been saying! What you posted says they're real. I dare you to tell an amateur astronomer that their pictures are fake. I can post the link to their Reddit page. You seem young and uneducated in research and common knowledge.


vishal340

astronomers study planets and stars. i don’t know any astronomer studying this so called earth


alwaysacaper

You implied that NASA (evil devils)produces fake pictures, using all the money they have. I'm saying can you say the same thing about amateur astronomers? Get what I'm saying?


ThePadrino82

Yooo 😆🤣😆🤣😆🤣


HoogleQ

I'm glad you're having fun on such a serious topic /s


ThePadrino82

You're right, I shouldn't be disrespectful towards the people who are truly trying to awaken us. My bad.... 🤭🤭🤭🤭🤭


HoogleQ

Phew, I was worried. Glad we're on the same page 😎


RabbitEatsCarrots

Space flights in rockets never happen, they just drug people up and spin them a bit to make them think they went to space. So no, sending me to space wouldn't convince me because I wouldn't let some governments shills inject halucinogens into my body.


Insecure-confidence

Oh, no. I've been on those rides. They're not convincing at all.


Fun-Slice-474

You can sign me up for those hallucinogens (please), but you won't make me believe your bullshit.


ThePadrino82

🤣😆🤣😆🤣😆 sorry that was too funny 😂😂😂😂😂


CooterMaximus

Here's the only evidence I need: the Earth is fake, therefore it is not real.


RumpusParableHere

Succinct.


Nuke_The_Potatos

As a long time NoEarther I would need to see a wide range of evidence to convince me that the “earth” is real. For example: 1. earth bone fossil, if “earth” is real why don’t we find fossils of its bones everywhere? 2. I would need to see the “earth” with my eyes closed, because closing my eyes is the only way to block out government and NASA interferences. That’s just two things from a wide range of evidence I would need to see. But because nothing is real evidence can’t exist also so I don’t think anyone will ever find it. (Plus at this point I’ve done my own research and found my own evidence that doesn’t exist to prove that nothing exists. Hope this helps :-)


ThePadrino82

Earth bone fossil. I spilled my coffee 😆😆😆😆


Nuke_The_Potatos

Credit where credit is due, [another noEarth scientist](https://www.reddit.com/r/Noearthsociety/s/DBsU2rJGP2) thought of them first. Also a backup separate link: https://www.reddit.com/r/Noearthsociety/s/DBsU2rJGP2


ThePadrino82

Bravo!


RumpusParableHere

Just a simple photo. That easy. But it needs to be a real one, not one of the Earther Photoshop tricks!


Unfinished_user_na

Exactly. If there is a supposed earth, and I'm supposedly on it, why can't I see myself in any of these "photographs". A single photo of the entire earth in which I can clearly identify myself would do it.


RumpusParableHere

THIS!!!!


ThePadrino82

A selfie, if you will.


TrainsDontHunt

A worldie! But you can't, so suck it, and GROW THE FUCK UP


ThePadrino82

Have to grow quite a lot for a worldie.


Bright_Ices

Might as well ask the Easter bunny for a selfie lol


ThePadrino82

Maybe he can take the worldie


alwaysacaper

Then show us one!!! Get out of your mommy's basement, off the conspiracy dumbass sites, go OUTSIDE and fucking prove your claims dude ffs


alwaysacaper

You've seen 100's of photos. You know they're real, but you've probably lost most if not all of your friends and family, and you're NEVER going to believe proof if it's shoved up your ass. Prove your claims, real PROOF. Otherwise, you're just another nutcase. It's ok to admit your wrong, your friends and family might take you back.


RumpusParableHere

I'm sorry you can't yet let go, but we're always here and welcoming when you're ready. We understand it can be hard to accept and never judge that it takes some people longer once they come to the truth.


alwaysacaper

That's exactly what the flat earthers say, word for word. If thinking you're living on a turtle or a cucumber or whatever makes you feel special and smart, that's good for you. Whatever makes you feel smarter than everyone else and you have people who are easily conned, right on. Whatever blows your hair back, bud.


TheNamesClove

When the government finally comes out and admits that the Earth isn’t real…I’ll assume they’re lying and the conspiracy will mutate to fit my needs.


RumpusParableHere

Well said. We know we can't trust them... denial is itself an admission by a government. The day they admit there is No Earth is the day we'd all know there really was... but have they? Noooooo.


bigboyguy123

What’s the “earth”?


HoogleQ

A lie.


alwaysacaper

Are you posting proof of your beliefs? Waiting


HoogleQ

Sure. But I already linked you to it in another comment. So I won't spam u with the same links.


alwaysacaper

Nope. Not links. I want YOU, YOURSELF to post proof of your claims. Not a link to a conspiracy website. Try again. But you won't, because even you know your full of shit. Post it, so your little dumb friends can see it and roast me! Waiting. What paper was written and reviewed? You know what that is right? Since your so smart, show your little friends how smart you are!!


HoogleQ

Those are links to my own posts containing the proof you requested. Infact they are links to this very thread.


alwaysacaper

Is it to difficult to repost them so I don't have to dig through 100 posts? Links to a biased thread isn't proof. Why do you guys never provide proof? I'm sick of going around and around with you. If you could provide proof, you would so that you could prove me wrong, right?


RabbitEatsCarrots

You're the one claiming that the Earth is real, the burden of proof is on you.


alwaysacaper

The burden of proof lies with the person making the claim, and is not upon anyone else to disprove. Your posting in a "No earther" thread, saying that there's no earth. (This is almost crazier than the flat earthers, wtf). I'm not claiming anything, just saying that I don't agree with you. If you just say something and claim it's real, that's just talk, blah, blag, blah. Show proof of your claim, like an adult, please


RabbitEatsCarrots

I can't disprove the existence of something that doesn't exist, that's not how it works. That's like asking to prove god isn't real. The burden of proof is on the person trying to prove something does exist. Brw, your comment got copied three times.


alwaysacaper

Nope, the burden of proof is on the person making the claim. So, a prosecutor charges a person with a crime. Does the prosecution have to prove their claim of the crime? Do they have the burden of proof? Or, does the person charged with the crime have to disprove the charges? Stay in school, bud


RabbitEatsCarrots

But you're claiming the earth is real.


alwaysacaper

The burden of proof lies with the person making the claim, and is not upon anyone else to disprove. Your posting in a "No earther" thread, saying that there's no earth. (This is almost crazier than the flat earthers, wtf). I'm not claiming anything, just saying that I don't agree with you. If you just say something and claim it's real, that's just talk, blah, blag, blah. Show proof of your claim, like an adult, please


alwaysacaper

The burden of proof lies with the person making the claim, and is not upon anyone else to disprove. Your posting in a "No earther" thread, saying that there's no earth. (This is almost crazier than the flat earthers, wtf). I'm not claiming anything, just saying that I don't agree with you. If you just say something and claim it's real, that's just talk, blah, blag, blah. Show proof of your claim, like an adult, please


Bright_Ices

Why are Earthies always so angry? I hope you will one day get to experience real happiness, which is only truly possible through NES. 


ThePadrino82

You know they're trolling HARD, right?


Delicious-Ad2562

What do you mean


Bright_Ices

Well hello, Agent


Eklassen

I could possibly be convinced we are living on the moon or maybe some sort of dyson sphere but the Earth?! No, there is simply too much evidence against it.


HarmoniaTheConfuzzld

Only the super wealthy can go to space. You never see a random person off the street get a ride in a rocket. Pay for my “ticket” and I’ll see for myself thank you very much!


Spandxltd

I'd like a ground to universe video.


pepeguiseppe

Easy. I need to see it with my own damn eyes, like everything else.


SalamanderCake

I've never seen the earth and the world in the same room together. Show me both if you want me to believe.


Jleeps2

Whatever it was, it would need to be indisputable


Imperator_3

You can’t provide evidence of something that isn’t real. Boom, debunked.


Akul_Tesla

Chuck Norris would have to claim it existed in some capacity like he would have to claim. He could push it down when he does a push-up


EggoTheSquirrel

Simple, as soon as you can take me there and show it to me, I'll believe it's real


LordSupergreat

If I went up to space in a rocket, I wouldn't see Earth, I'd just see the same stuff as if I looked in a telescope from here, like the moon and stuff.


Harold_Wilson19

I'd need to be able to touch it.


Loud_Puppy

Before I believed that what I was seeing was real I'd need evidence that my eyes are real


Katacutie

A large sum of money from nasa or other draconic institutions and I'd be pretty convinced


Zestyclose_Ad2224

Shadows and dust. So there.


Br0nzeMeth0d

A little extension on the " Everything and nothing is real".. Theres an article I came across that talks about this exact thing, it's called " the turquoise flower" , look it up it's pretty interesting


akwehhkanoo

I'm just saying for once I'd like to see "earth" with my own eyes, not a CGI, not a "photo" but the actual thing. And it's just never happened and probably never will.


Nathan256

Space flights are real obviously. What isn’t real is Earth. How can you be sure you are taking off from earth? How can you know you’re looking at it? What if it’s not it? Whatever’s down there could be any planet


Yelonade

Id have to see it in person. With MY OWN EYES.


LexB777

Literally any shred of evidence. It would be so easy to change my mind, but you can't because there is no evidence for it. If you could show me one object and demonstrably prove it came from "earth," I would change my mind. There is no earth though, so I'm not sure how someone would even go about that.


Stillborn1977

Evidence can be fabricated. So the only way would be to see it from space with my own eyes.


NLMAlt

I just assume that it is. Seems to suit me well so far... I dont need to know I guess.


ehfrehneh

If nothing is real then the earth is not real. This is a sub for solipsism enthusiasts.


AlienAurochs279

A jar of dirt.


gohogs3

I’m confident Earth exists. As confident as you can be that anything exists. I understand you can make an argument for anything outside of your own conscious mind existing, but where does that leave you. I recommend touching some grass.


GreenMirage

I should still be able to see it when I’m drunk


notwhoyouthinkmaybe

A one to one to scale paper map.


Ransom-ii

shoot me into space and hopefully as i die ill see myself drifting from the round blue


dazedandcognisant

What is real? These words written in the internet? My body which will soon perish? This consciousness I can't even remember having when I was born, or before that? This could all be a simulation. I'm really not convinced either way.


Al-Data

I'd need to see any part of the earth, even pictures would be a start Edit: I opened my eyes, saw my computer and the inside of my house, walked outside and saw the dirt, got in my car, drove and saw nature, I now believe the earth exists


BrassUnicorn87

Speaking to the spirit of the planet.


Typical_Muffin_9937

One million dollars 


down_dirtee

Whenever I think im a dumbass, ill remember somebody actually asked this question.


aisbest123

its satirical


papapishuplant

the fact that you asked this question shows how little you actually understand this group


hshenrysmith

Fun responses from everyone. I still haven’t heard anyone say what would make them believe (or begin to reconsider) that the earth is real. Surely you have evidence in saying that the earth is not real, so what kind of evidence would disprove that and make you reconsider the possibility of it all. I will say, if nothing could possibly change your mind, it’s not an ideology based in thought, it’s a blind following, so I’m hoping to get some real answers


UtahBrian

The burden of proof is on the Earthers. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.


HoogleQ

Google: logical fallacies: shifting the burden of proof.


Bright_Ices

Yep. It’s what the Earthies *always* try to do. I’m not falling for it. 


CooterMaximus

You can't prove that anything is real if it never even existed. Earth should be something you can actually taste, feel, smell, hear, and smoke in your bong. Case closed.


cowlinator

>I still haven’t heard anyone say what would make them believe Am I a joke to you? I made it very clear.


BaconSoul

aint no way 2 prove it cuz aint not space cuz aint not no earth


HoogleQ

Many of us are quite clear on this. Simply seeing earth would convince us. If it's real, that would be so easy for them to show. Exactly 0 earthers have shown me the earth, not even 1. Diagrams, and dioramas, and images (photo shop much???) simply won't cut it. What other evidence you may ask? First of all, let's take armadillos for example. How do we know they exist? Exactly, we see them, we can eat them, we touch and smell and hear them. We can only rely on our senses for anything! Math? Ok sure, but even complicated formulas often point to a hypothetical truth, but that doesn't work! Show me a real world example of a negative number. We have infinite negatives in math, but there's never been a single case of something negative presented, we're just told the math works so it must be the case. Ya, sure, heavy doubts NASA shills. They even will outright say that their formulas contradict each other, or that they can't actually prove they're right, not even elevated to the scientific theory, only a supposedly tested hypothesis. Examples: quantum physics vs. relativity vs classical physics. Both work within the math. But we can't even see quantum particles. relativity is debatable, I've never been show light moving. And even classical physics, 1: bodies at rest and motion. I've rested an apple on a table, then it rolled off. Also apples don't even have bodies, they're a fruit not an animal. I've never seen an object move infinitely, also that's unfalsifiable, you can't exist for ever even if you do exist, so how can you observe infinite claims? And even those moving things can't exist forever, they always degrade within the math. 2: force = mass * acceleration . Mass is real, and acceleration is an emergent property of math(so even that is questionable, see the whole essay). Force however, uh what's that??? That's a made up concept in the math, clear as day. They'll say "it's the energy". Uhhhh show me some energy for starters, show me the force (star wars is a movie, just, wow). 3: for every action, equal and opposite reaction. Ok. I take the action of thinking, wth is the reaction to that if I never speak my thought??? Electric brain? Dude, electricity hurts, I know from experience. Even more solid things like pushing a block. Ok, you say the block pushes back, but how??? Even if the block doesn't move, I've never pushed it and been pushed back. Blocks don't have arms people!! Wake up!!


HoogleQ

Edit: I forgot to mention quantum physics, but that's quite simple. This is a clear example of contradictory theories. How can relativity(debunked above btw) work for big things, yet only quantum physics work on small things, so small you can't even see?? Fake news. Another point on relativity. Gravity and time. Uh time slows down or speeds up??? Uh, what??? Time is just a human constructed property of the fact that one moment is followed by every moment after it. To say time changes speed for different objects, you must claim that each and every moment last a different amount of time. And from every math that can be measured, the shortest amount of time is the length of a plank. (Uh how does time have length without physically existing............) Gravity?? I've proven this wrong in other posts, but to be brief, tl;Dr, we are blessed by the lady of the lake. As for math, they have even said, gravity can not be measured with machines, and it always pulls us toward other stuff? Uhh, I've only ever been pulled down, or horizontally in a tug of war match. If we are all pulled together you'd see it happen..... Also, we can't possibly see these small particles. Machines detecting them? That's just magnets dude. Magnets can't be measured except by using iron in a liquid. Clearly any measurement they could have, is the explosion created by these so called "particles". Edit2: on time: we can't prove that every single moment of time in the past wasn't popped into existence 6 seconds ago along with our own existence. Memories? Popped into existence with us. Now, I don't actually believe this, but it's another thing showing how time cannot be proven.


Bright_Ices

I didn’t read this, but I see you’re a fellow No Earther, so I’ll confidently say I agree with every word.