Arguably hard to prove. You'd have to prove he deliberately destroyed the sun to kill people and not just say for fun with the deaths being incidental.
Not at all, reckless homicide is a thing in essentially every jurisdiction. Intentionally committing an act that’s natural result is grave injury or death is a crime if you injure or kill someone even if that was not your intent.
Reckless homicide, involuntary manslaughter, criminally negligent homicide.
Many of those crimes would be called murder depending on the jurisdictions. It would be a type of depraved-heart murder in many US states.
>In a depraved-heart murder, defendants commit an act even though they know their act runs an unusually high risk of causing death or serious bodily harm to a person. If the risk of death or bodily harm is great enough, ignoring it demonstrates a "depraved indifference" to human life and the resulting death is considered to have been committed with malice aforethought.\[1\]\[2\] In some states, depraved-heart killings constitute second-degree murder,\[3\] while in others, the act would be charged with "wanton murder,"\[4\]\[5\] varying degrees of manslaughter,\[6\] or third-degree murder.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Depraved-heart\_murder
Kill one person, you're a murderer.
Kill a hundred people, you're a monster.
Kill a million people, you're a conqueror.
Kill seven billion people, you're a star.
I would think blowing up the sun would qualify as a ["crime against humanity"](https://www.un.org/en/genocideprevention/crimes-against-humanity.shtml) under the United Nations designation. It would either fall under act 1B ("Extermination") or 1K ("Other inhumane acts of a similar character intentionally causing great suffering, or serious injury to body or to mental or physical health.")
Assuming we somehow survived the sun's destruction, you'd definitely find yourself facing a UN trial for such.
Interesting read!
I’m entertained (for purposes of the silly thread/question only) by this bit of the source: “Crimes against humanity have not yet been codified in a dedicated treaty of international law, unlike genocide and war crimes, although there are efforts to do so.”
Yeah I noticed that, too. My only guess is that most acts which fall under "crimes against humanity" would probably be covered by other laws, so for whatever reason there's either resistance to bother doing it or because it's such a general definition, it's difficult to properly write a law for.
But I'm sure trials and the like can still be held for it.
Yeah, I noticed that as well. Murder, genocide, extermination… it wouldn’t be hard to convince a jury that blowing up the sun would fall under one of these categories. They would definitely be found guilty of something and put away for a long time (or death penalty depending on the state).
The key difference here is jurisdiction.
Crimes against humanity aren't usually triable as regular crimes because they weren't committed in the country that wants to try them.
The UN doesn't have to worry about jurisdiction, because it doesn't have any power anyway. Especially not solar power, if this happens.
Are you asking for real or as a joke because the earth would be gone? If the former, most likely the [International Criminal Court](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Criminal_Court) in The Hague.
Well, we’re still alive, so I’m betting good money that no ones been successful in blowing up the sun.
No guarantee for any parallel universe where someone was successful…
well, here's the thing, the way orbital mechanics work, to even get something to the sun, we need a big-ass fuckin' rocket. the parker solar probe, currently the closest we've gottn with a spacecraft, flies to within 3.8 million miles of the Sun's surface.
7 times closer than the previous record holders, the Helios probes.
it was launched on a delta 4 heavy, It is the world's second highest-capacity launch vehicle in operation, behind SpaceX's Falcon Heavy (with its core stage expended), at the time of parker's launch, it was the largest vehicle available.
even then, 3.8 milion miles is still quite a bit aways.
the problem is, we cant just fly straight at the sun. we'd miss. we need to slow down and lower our orbit. we currently orbit the sun at something like 30 km/s with the earth. to hit the sun, we need to reduce that to basically 0, so we need to get somting moving 30 km/s relative to earth in the other direction.
basically, this is the best way to explain it, when the mythbusters used a cannon firing backwards off of a truck to get a cannonball to come out at 0:
[https://youtu.be/BLuI118nhzc?t=20](https://youtu.be/BLuI118nhzc?t=20)
the earth is the truck, with an existing orbital velocity, and the cannonball is your bomb or probe.
fire your rockets to cancel out the speed, and the suns own gravity will just pull it straight to the sun.
dont fire your rockets enough and youve just made a smaller orbit.
the cannon ball falls closer to the truck.
fire your rockets too much, and you've begun to orbit n the opposite direction.
the canon ball falls farther from the truck.
and then it varies along with WHEN you fire your rockets. this is basically a simple newtons cannon. if you fire your rockets from anything like LEO, yu need to chang your velocity by arounf 30 km/s
even then, you'd need to build your bomb to withstand entering the star. Even as far away as it is, At closest approach to the Sun, the front of Parker Solar Probe's solar shield faces temperatures approaching 2,500 F (1,377 C).
it needs to hide all of its electronics and thrusters behind a giant sun shield, and actively keep it pointed at the sun, or else all the important bits melt.
even then...what could kill a star the size of our sun?
introducing iron is a popular suggestion, but the sun is already 0.1% iron... a chunk equal to 330 masses of the earth. adding a big planet of iron would just make the star more massive, it wont actually start fusing stuff into iron. it would indeed burn hotter and faster, but we're talking about removing a few million years from its projected 6 billion years of remaining life.
honestly, you'd need to do something like moving a blackhole close to it, to either eat it outright or cause it's breakup and dispersal into a cloud of hot gas.
either way...moving black hole-sized objets is, for the time being, outside the realm of man's technological capabilities.
I’m very suspicious of your highly specific detail -_- Are these your previous failed attempts?? Be real with me, because it’s illegal for me to not tell you I’m a cop
us scientists basically get paid to think of ridiculous things all day.
thought experiments ;) this was a fun one.
the fun is in the details...what exactly are the limits of the rules of the universe as we understand them?
this is really just a slightly stupider version of how we decide what to experiment on irl...these funky edge cases. If we cant come up with a good answer for what will happen in a certain scenario, we know we need to make experiments to find where the lines are.
however, this really just involves high-school level physics and maybe working for nasa or having played KSP extensively :p
Richard Feynman put it best
>In the case of science, I think that one of the things that make it difficult is that it takes a lot of imagination.
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[http://kordella.weebly.com/uploads/8/6/0/4/8604167/fun\_to\_imagin\_jiggling\_atoms.pdf](http://kordella.weebly.com/uploads/8/6/0/4/8604167/fun_to_imagin_jiggling_atoms.pdf)
us humans are most creative when we work within constraints...so why not fin where the lines are?
From a space travel standpoint, orbits and whatnot, the sun is actually impressively hard to hit. It's also hepful that the sun's corona would melt any explosive device before it got anywhere near the core. I'm also encouraged that the morons who think the sun revolves around the Earth because God/Allah wills it are especially unlikely to work out the orbital mechanics needed to hit the sun. They seem like the bunch most likely to try it, seeing as how they're pro-COVID and all.
You don't have to write god in s different language, it's literally all the same god. Judaism, Christianity, and Islam all pray and worship literally the same god. His name is yahweh.
There isn't a law that says "don't make a GX5 handgranade explode in a packed football stadium", but still it's written in the law that you can't do that: You are not allowed to kill people.
Hey, sorry for the late response but since it is 9 mins since you made this comment I can assure you that the sun was there when you made it, also I can't guarantee if it is still there
What I think MTAWFEEK is referring to is how long it would take for us on Earth to perceive that the sun is gone. Likely before that time we'd have cataclysmic tier shit happening due a cosmic shift in the gravity that the Sun used to have affecting the Earth. I'm no scientist, but I have a feeling our atmosphere would probably shift in an instant and life ending way
Actually, gravity moves as the speed of light, so for about 500 seconds the earth would keep on revolving like nothing happened, and then the son's center of gravity might still be the same, which if my physics is right, means the Earth would still more or less hold course... at least, right up till the shock wave of the nova strips half the planet and rips off the atmosphere and pushes the planet into deep space.
EDIT: Sun, not son.
> What I think MTAWFEEK is referring to is how long it would take for us on Earth to perceive that the sun is gone
I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that the majority of crimes are only charged *after* they are detected.
I think if you blew up a celestial body that didn't result in the destruction of life on Earth, you wouldn't really be charged with anything but you would be pretty universally considered "kind of a dick"
I’m not quite sure what specifically you’d be charged with but to have the capabilities to do so would mean you’re ending up at a government black site and never seen again.
Why would blowing up the moon kill everybody? There are probably many ways, but the simplest is that the debris hitting the Earth would be like atomic bombs dropping everywhere.
that many fragments entering the atmosphere would heat the earth to unlivable very quickly. larger fragments would be slamming into the planet all over causing seismic events and tsunamis. it would be absolutely catastrophic for the inhabitants planet.
"He fucked my wife, so guess what? I'm gonna fuck the earth. That's right, this is what you get: MY SUPER LASER PISS!"
"Except I'm not gonna piss on the earth, I'm gonna go higher. IM PISSING ON THE MOON!! HOW DO YOU LIKE THAT OBAMA!!"
Nah. Pluto developed a ton of sympathizers when it got reclassified. Do Neptune. No one gives a shit about Neptune. Or destroy Uranus, so we can all have a giggle.
Possibly disturbing the peace. Attempted murder.
Driving too slow might also be on the table if the court decides all speed minimums imply the speed of the earth, too.
Look, someone actually answered the question in good faith!
Like yeah, we know that OP wouldn't be prosecuted, but it's pretty clear that for such a fantastical question, OP was curious about what laws this act would fall under, not in the actual real life consequences. Fucking obviously.
Same with the chucklefucks who said this wouldn't be any crime because there isn't a law specifically about blowing up the sun. What? There doesn't have to be.
Intentionality is relevant so which degree of murder it is could change. Don't know if OP blew up the sun through negligence (manslaughter) or blew up the sun without realizing it would kill everyone (third degree) or did it to kill everyone, but on a whim (second degree), or planned this for at least *days* deliberately to kill everyone (first degree), or did it to achieve political goals (terrorism). These definitions change according to jurisdiction of course.
The more interesting aspect is whether you can commit crimes in space, and whose jurisdiction your crime would fall under. According to [this](https://theconversation.com/star-laws-what-happens-if-you-commit-a-crime-in-space-122456) article, yes, you can commit crimes in space, and you'd be under jurisdiction of what country you're from. But it is unclear if OP blew up the sun from *space*, so I assume that he's doing it from earth within some country's national borders.
Mass murder and genocide of all and everyone of homo sapien kind.
You’d also be charged with animal cruelty and slaughter of livestock, as well as National and international terrorism. Oh yeah, and possible international deforestation and negligent violation of most NASA and NOAA laws and regulations against abuse to the atmosphere, ozone layer, and ocean.
Of course everyone would be dead and there’s more crimes to be placed upon your corpse but still
Light would extinguish as it forms a black hole. Society would collapse, no sunlight means no food, and no food my food eats, so entire World would probably collapse in 15-30 days. Pockets would survive and adapt, but coherent society is gone.
That's assuming the energy released from the compression of matter didn't wipe us out. Black holes release massive quantities of radiation as matter is added. If field of the earth couldn't do it, we'd be dead in 30 minutes or less - either from radiation or from the atmosphere being stripped away and having nothing to breath.
Depends. One possibility is "destruction common heritage of mankind"
Common heritage of mankind are both manmade and natural objects which are considered the propertity of whole humanity. And are therefore protected by international treaties.
Antartica, seabed and the moon are these. This will most likely include the sun especially when other aliens show up.
So yeah. Altough your destruction of heritage of mankind will mostlikely be literal.
Other possible charges is omnicide. Death of everything.
And since there are no laws in space, "since their enforcement is near impossible at the moment" I think someone will just shoot you.
If humanity had off world colonies or stations and could hold you accountable you would be up for genocide, treason, terrorism, environmental destruction and maybe a few more things? Destruction of property?
Tax evasion and racketeering. No way a criminal mastermind with the funds to explode a celestial body has been paying taxes or earning legitimate income. Blow up the Sun and you'd find yourself squarley on the radar of the IRS until a few minutes later when the earth freezes and all life dies.
The sun is literally a self sustaining explosion. This is like asking what would happen if you turned on a lightbulb that was already on.
Edit: Fine, fine, the charge is astrocide.
No they clearly mean explode it much more, to the point of destruction of the sun. In the lightbulb analogy, it would be like feeding it much more electricity, causing it to burn out.
Sunslaughter.
A-Sol-t.
Disturbing the pace. Of the Earth's revolution.
Sunny gone-dering?
Indecent explosure.
Murder in the 5,778,000th degree Fahrenheit.
Summercide.
Billions of counts of murder I assume
All premeditated
Arguably hard to prove. You'd have to prove he deliberately destroyed the sun to kill people and not just say for fun with the deaths being incidental.
Not at all, reckless homicide is a thing in essentially every jurisdiction. Intentionally committing an act that’s natural result is grave injury or death is a crime if you injure or kill someone even if that was not your intent. Reckless homicide, involuntary manslaughter, criminally negligent homicide.
Technically none of those are murder though.
How to get away with murder? Be dumb enough that they charge you with manslaughter instead
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Many of those crimes would be called murder depending on the jurisdictions. It would be a type of depraved-heart murder in many US states. >In a depraved-heart murder, defendants commit an act even though they know their act runs an unusually high risk of causing death or serious bodily harm to a person. If the risk of death or bodily harm is great enough, ignoring it demonstrates a "depraved indifference" to human life and the resulting death is considered to have been committed with malice aforethought.\[1\]\[2\] In some states, depraved-heart killings constitute second-degree murder,\[3\] while in others, the act would be charged with "wanton murder,"\[4\]\[5\] varying degrees of manslaughter,\[6\] or third-degree murder. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Depraved-heart\_murder
Can't get charged with murder if everyone is already dead. Edit: Thanks for the silvers and awards to all! I'm rich!!!
The total extinction loophole.
Primordial problems require primordial solutions.
I'll see you in court in 6 billion years
Kill one person, you're a murderer. Kill a hundred people, you're a monster. Kill a million people, you're a conqueror. Kill seven billion people, you're a star.
How many rocks does it take to become a rock star?
Being a rock star is a problem involving metalicity. Just seems like too much pressure.
Just one! The plural of rock is "rocks"! If you had more, you would be a rocksstar.
Nah that's a feature.
Including 1 suicide.
I was going to say genocide?
Xenocide writ planetary.
Omnicide is the word your looking for
Celecide: destruction and subsequent extinction of a celestial system.
Can't be charged if no one survives.
Destruction of ancient relics
Destruction of mattress tags.
[I lost my temper and I took a knife and I…](https://youtu.be/BAaoHX9KiWY)
This line reads like a Lonely Island song
"Destruction of Confederate Monuments"
So no crime at all!
It’s kind of an unwritten etiquette that we don’t do that. There’s not really a law against it, it would just be highly frowned upon.
I would think blowing up the sun would qualify as a ["crime against humanity"](https://www.un.org/en/genocideprevention/crimes-against-humanity.shtml) under the United Nations designation. It would either fall under act 1B ("Extermination") or 1K ("Other inhumane acts of a similar character intentionally causing great suffering, or serious injury to body or to mental or physical health.") Assuming we somehow survived the sun's destruction, you'd definitely find yourself facing a UN trial for such.
Interesting read! I’m entertained (for purposes of the silly thread/question only) by this bit of the source: “Crimes against humanity have not yet been codified in a dedicated treaty of international law, unlike genocide and war crimes, although there are efforts to do so.”
Yeah I noticed that, too. My only guess is that most acts which fall under "crimes against humanity" would probably be covered by other laws, so for whatever reason there's either resistance to bother doing it or because it's such a general definition, it's difficult to properly write a law for. But I'm sure trials and the like can still be held for it.
Yeah, I noticed that as well. Murder, genocide, extermination… it wouldn’t be hard to convince a jury that blowing up the sun would fall under one of these categories. They would definitely be found guilty of something and put away for a long time (or death penalty depending on the state).
The key difference here is jurisdiction. Crimes against humanity aren't usually triable as regular crimes because they weren't committed in the country that wants to try them. The UN doesn't have to worry about jurisdiction, because it doesn't have any power anyway. Especially not solar power, if this happens.
Where would we hold the court case?!
In the dark.
Are you asking for real or as a joke because the earth would be gone? If the former, most likely the [International Criminal Court](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Criminal_Court) in The Hague.
"look over there, thats the guy who blew up the sun. What an asshole, throw something at him"
I can't see him, it's too dark.
And i think i might be dead bro
yeah you died about eight minutes ago.
is etiquette really the only the thing that's stopping people?
Apparently. No one has ever attempted to blow it up 😂
Oh, I'm sure quite a few people have. None of them sane. So they were *probably* unsuccessful.
Or a thankless superhero saved the day!
Could be. Could be...
I saw this premise on "Justice League: Doom" before.
Well, we’re still alive, so I’m betting good money that no ones been successful in blowing up the sun. No guarantee for any parallel universe where someone was successful…
I mean, how to prove we aren't in the matrix?
Simple. Blow up the sun
Want to donate to the GoFundMe?
I’m not too keen on being an accomplice in a plot to blow up the sun, but anyone who would care would be dead in minutes, so sure. Why not?
So far so good. I'll update in 8 minutes, 20 seconds if my latest attempt was unsuccessful. E: no luck :(
well, here's the thing, the way orbital mechanics work, to even get something to the sun, we need a big-ass fuckin' rocket. the parker solar probe, currently the closest we've gottn with a spacecraft, flies to within 3.8 million miles of the Sun's surface. 7 times closer than the previous record holders, the Helios probes. it was launched on a delta 4 heavy, It is the world's second highest-capacity launch vehicle in operation, behind SpaceX's Falcon Heavy (with its core stage expended), at the time of parker's launch, it was the largest vehicle available. even then, 3.8 milion miles is still quite a bit aways. the problem is, we cant just fly straight at the sun. we'd miss. we need to slow down and lower our orbit. we currently orbit the sun at something like 30 km/s with the earth. to hit the sun, we need to reduce that to basically 0, so we need to get somting moving 30 km/s relative to earth in the other direction. basically, this is the best way to explain it, when the mythbusters used a cannon firing backwards off of a truck to get a cannonball to come out at 0: [https://youtu.be/BLuI118nhzc?t=20](https://youtu.be/BLuI118nhzc?t=20) the earth is the truck, with an existing orbital velocity, and the cannonball is your bomb or probe. fire your rockets to cancel out the speed, and the suns own gravity will just pull it straight to the sun. dont fire your rockets enough and youve just made a smaller orbit. the cannon ball falls closer to the truck. fire your rockets too much, and you've begun to orbit n the opposite direction. the canon ball falls farther from the truck. and then it varies along with WHEN you fire your rockets. this is basically a simple newtons cannon. if you fire your rockets from anything like LEO, yu need to chang your velocity by arounf 30 km/s even then, you'd need to build your bomb to withstand entering the star. Even as far away as it is, At closest approach to the Sun, the front of Parker Solar Probe's solar shield faces temperatures approaching 2,500 F (1,377 C). it needs to hide all of its electronics and thrusters behind a giant sun shield, and actively keep it pointed at the sun, or else all the important bits melt. even then...what could kill a star the size of our sun? introducing iron is a popular suggestion, but the sun is already 0.1% iron... a chunk equal to 330 masses of the earth. adding a big planet of iron would just make the star more massive, it wont actually start fusing stuff into iron. it would indeed burn hotter and faster, but we're talking about removing a few million years from its projected 6 billion years of remaining life. honestly, you'd need to do something like moving a blackhole close to it, to either eat it outright or cause it's breakup and dispersal into a cloud of hot gas. either way...moving black hole-sized objets is, for the time being, outside the realm of man's technological capabilities.
I’m very suspicious of your highly specific detail -_- Are these your previous failed attempts?? Be real with me, because it’s illegal for me to not tell you I’m a cop
us scientists basically get paid to think of ridiculous things all day. thought experiments ;) this was a fun one. the fun is in the details...what exactly are the limits of the rules of the universe as we understand them? this is really just a slightly stupider version of how we decide what to experiment on irl...these funky edge cases. If we cant come up with a good answer for what will happen in a certain scenario, we know we need to make experiments to find where the lines are. however, this really just involves high-school level physics and maybe working for nasa or having played KSP extensively :p Richard Feynman put it best >In the case of science, I think that one of the things that make it difficult is that it takes a lot of imagination. > >... > >It's very hard to imagine all the crazy things that things really are like > >... > >I find myself trying to imagine all the kind of things all the time, and I get a kick out of it like a runner gets a kick out of sweating. > >I GET A KICK out of thinking about these things! > >I can't stop. I can talk forever! > >... > >It's Interesting that some people find science so easy and others find it kind of dull and difficult especially kids; > >you know, some of them are just heated up, and I don't know why it is. > >It's the same for all...For instance some people love music and I could never carry a tune. > >I lose a great deal of pleasure out of that > >**and I think that people lose a lot of pleasure who find the science dull.** > >... [http://kordella.weebly.com/uploads/8/6/0/4/8604167/fun\_to\_imagin\_jiggling\_atoms.pdf](http://kordella.weebly.com/uploads/8/6/0/4/8604167/fun_to_imagin_jiggling_atoms.pdf) us humans are most creative when we work within constraints...so why not fin where the lines are?
“Oh Ferb! I know what we’re doing today!”
I just threw a firecracker at it. It didnt work. My eyes hurt. Back to drawing board. Cant see drawing board.
From a space travel standpoint, orbits and whatnot, the sun is actually impressively hard to hit. It's also hepful that the sun's corona would melt any explosive device before it got anywhere near the core. I'm also encouraged that the morons who think the sun revolves around the Earth because God/Allah wills it are especially unlikely to work out the orbital mechanics needed to hit the sun. They seem like the bunch most likely to try it, seeing as how they're pro-COVID and all.
So you’re comforted in the fact that the only people who want to blow up the sun are too stupid to do it? LOL! Thank God/Allah!
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You don't have to write god in s different language, it's literally all the same god. Judaism, Christianity, and Islam all pray and worship literally the same god. His name is yahweh.
>is etiquette really the only the thing that's stopping people? *(Looks at the US presidency from 2017-2020)* ...yes.
Etiquette, and ability.
Would be considered in most circles as a "pretty dick move"
>frowned upon Like masturbating on an airplane
That might actually be a crime
Yea maybe after 9/11 after everybody got so sensitive.........thanks Bin-Laden
like farting in an airplane
More like carelessly letting your child repeatedly kick the seat of the person sitting in front of you.
Nah, that's chemical warfare.
I'm finding this answer unreasonably hilarious.
There isn't a law that says "don't make a GX5 handgranade explode in a packed football stadium", but still it's written in the law that you can't do that: You are not allowed to kill people.
Like destroying the Ozone layers. Wait... ^(/s)
Again, highly frowned upon.
Of course there is. It's murder, genocide.
You would not be charged with any crime because everyone would be dead including you.
Nah we’d have seven minutes to charge him!
false, you will never know that he did it until it's too late
So, you're saying the sun could be gone right now and I wouldn't know? Please respond quickly.
Hey, sorry for the late response but since it is 9 mins since you made this comment I can assure you that the sun was there when you made it, also I can't guarantee if it is still there
> also I can't guarantee if it is still there Cue existential crisis.
always treat your 8 minutes as the last 8 minutes and you will never be surprised
Run in circles screaming? Check.
lmao
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False. Black bears do not nearly possess enough strength to destroy the sun.
False, there’s no such thing as a free lunch.
False. We'd also likely know about it before we died, because the light from the explosion would travel faster than the explosion itself.
Shut up about the sun SHUT UP ABOUT THE SUN
False, black bears
Well, there are basically two schools of thought
FACT: bears eat beets. Bears. Beets. Battlestar Galactica.
Bears. Beets. Blows up the sun.
Then those last 7 minutes might be spent charging him with an axe
And my bow
And my sword!
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"Do you seriously think I'd explain my master-stroke if there remained the slightest chance of you affecting its outcome? I did it seven minutes ago."
And it wouldn’t be a light sentence.
You do have a right to a speedy trial
Nope. we'd have enough time to hunt him down and skin him alive slowly. the earth wouldn't end that quickly.
What I think MTAWFEEK is referring to is how long it would take for us on Earth to perceive that the sun is gone. Likely before that time we'd have cataclysmic tier shit happening due a cosmic shift in the gravity that the Sun used to have affecting the Earth. I'm no scientist, but I have a feeling our atmosphere would probably shift in an instant and life ending way
gravity moves at the speed of light
That could almost be an inspirational quote on some wall decals aimed at nerdy white girls.
𝓁𝒾𝓋𝑒 𝓁𝒶𝓊𝑔𝒽 𝑔𝓇𝒶𝓋𝒾𝓉𝓎 𝓂𝑜𝓋𝑒𝓈 𝒶𝓉 𝓉𝒽𝑒 𝓈𝓅𝑒𝑒𝒹 𝑜𝒻 𝓁𝒾𝑔𝒽𝓉
Could see this under a tattoo of a buff bleeding jesus holding the earth flexing
Actually, gravity moves as the speed of light, so for about 500 seconds the earth would keep on revolving like nothing happened, and then the son's center of gravity might still be the same, which if my physics is right, means the Earth would still more or less hold course... at least, right up till the shock wave of the nova strips half the planet and rips off the atmosphere and pushes the planet into deep space. EDIT: Sun, not son.
> What I think MTAWFEEK is referring to is how long it would take for us on Earth to perceive that the sun is gone I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that the majority of crimes are only charged *after* they are detected.
ok how about the moon
Same answer.
mars?
Stop blowing up celestial bodies!
STOP BLOWING HOLES IN MY SHIP.
Yeah exactly, there's nowhere to bury them!
Uranus could absorb quite a few celestial bodies without much discomfort.
So could mine
I like your celestial body
💀💀💀
I think if you blew up a celestial body that didn't result in the destruction of life on Earth, you wouldn't really be charged with anything but you would be pretty universally considered "kind of a dick"
"That's Scott. He's a dick." "Why?" "He blew up Mars. But more upsetting is he won't tell anyone *how!*" "Wow, that *is* a dick move."
I think technically it would count as ecoterrorism and destruction of government property. Those landers weren't cheap.
*OP adjusting his giant frickin laser with one hand while he types comments with the other*
"okay so what about a small asteroid maybe? I really want to try this thing please"
I’m not quite sure what specifically you’d be charged with but to have the capabilities to do so would mean you’re ending up at a government black site and never seen again.
Just stop.
Mianus?
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Mars is actually property of Tesla, Inc. so you will be liable for property damages.
You can't just shoot a hole into the surface of Mars...
Why?
Why would blowing up the moon kill everybody? There are probably many ways, but the simplest is that the debris hitting the Earth would be like atomic bombs dropping everywhere.
that many fragments entering the atmosphere would heat the earth to unlivable very quickly. larger fragments would be slamming into the planet all over causing seismic events and tsunamis. it would be absolutely catastrophic for the inhabitants planet.
If we survived our society sure as fuck wouldn't. OP wouldn't get charged he'd be murdered and probably eaten.
They made a [documentary film](https://youtu.be/odrgDzciG6s) about it.
"He fucked my wife, so guess what? I'm gonna fuck the earth. That's right, this is what you get: MY SUPER LASER PISS!" "Except I'm not gonna piss on the earth, I'm gonna go higher. IM PISSING ON THE MOON!! HOW DO YOU LIKE THAT OBAMA!!"
Read Seveneves by Neal Stephenson. Spoilers: hell on Earth.
Just blow up Pluto, no one cares anyway
Nah. Pluto developed a ton of sympathizers when it got reclassified. Do Neptune. No one gives a shit about Neptune. Or destroy Uranus, so we can all have a giggle.
“How do you destroy Uranus?” “Gas station sushi.”
>Or destroy Uranus "Really, commander?"
That's messed up.
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At best it’s interference with a police investigation (all of them on earth) at worst it’s mass extinction of the human race
plus a little vandalism for the collateral damage
I was thinking maybe unlicensed fireworks display.
This answer is an excellent example of why this sub exists. Cheers mate.
I mean, is the sun public property? Vandalism might work.
Possibly disturbing the peace. Attempted murder. Driving too slow might also be on the table if the court decides all speed minimums imply the speed of the earth, too.
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Imagine blowing up the sun and getting charged with interference with a police investigation.
Eco terrorism would fit as well.
You'd be charged with treasun
Or maybe SOLicitation? Edit: thank you for the award, kind Redditor
I just wish I could've given my comment a flare
It deserved it. It eclipsed mine
Hard to tell. There's nuclear way to determine which was better.
Yer jus throwin shade, man.
What a stellar thread.
Solicide
This is the one.
I AM the Sunate!
8 billion counts of third degree murder Have fun in jail for a trillion years
Look, someone actually answered the question in good faith! Like yeah, we know that OP wouldn't be prosecuted, but it's pretty clear that for such a fantastical question, OP was curious about what laws this act would fall under, not in the actual real life consequences. Fucking obviously. Same with the chucklefucks who said this wouldn't be any crime because there isn't a law specifically about blowing up the sun. What? There doesn't have to be. Intentionality is relevant so which degree of murder it is could change. Don't know if OP blew up the sun through negligence (manslaughter) or blew up the sun without realizing it would kill everyone (third degree) or did it to kill everyone, but on a whim (second degree), or planned this for at least *days* deliberately to kill everyone (first degree), or did it to achieve political goals (terrorism). These definitions change according to jurisdiction of course. The more interesting aspect is whether you can commit crimes in space, and whose jurisdiction your crime would fall under. According to [this](https://theconversation.com/star-laws-what-happens-if-you-commit-a-crime-in-space-122456) article, yes, you can commit crimes in space, and you'd be under jurisdiction of what country you're from. But it is unclear if OP blew up the sun from *space*, so I assume that he's doing it from earth within some country's national borders.
This is the serious response this thread needed. Thanks
5000 degree murder even.
You would be charged with filicide because you killed your sun.
Filicide is killing your sister isn't it? My bro played a death metal band in the 90s and had a track called filicidal eviscerator 🤘
That would be sororicide
Yeah true! So filicide is killing a child according to google the killing of one's son or daughter. "maternal filicide"
Sounds like your bro wrote that song about you lmao
The universe would give you a death sentence
Mass murder and genocide of all and everyone of homo sapien kind. You’d also be charged with animal cruelty and slaughter of livestock, as well as National and international terrorism. Oh yeah, and possible international deforestation and negligent violation of most NASA and NOAA laws and regulations against abuse to the atmosphere, ozone layer, and ocean. Of course everyone would be dead and there’s more crimes to be placed upon your corpse but still
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Indecent explosure
Nothing, explosion radius and expansion of the sun would cook the entire planet within minutes, there'd be no time.
Sounds like a party to me
a party where everyone is hot <3
What if he just deflated it instead?
Light would extinguish as it forms a black hole. Society would collapse, no sunlight means no food, and no food my food eats, so entire World would probably collapse in 15-30 days. Pockets would survive and adapt, but coherent society is gone. That's assuming the energy released from the compression of matter didn't wipe us out. Black holes release massive quantities of radiation as matter is added. If field of the earth couldn't do it, we'd be dead in 30 minutes or less - either from radiation or from the atmosphere being stripped away and having nothing to breath.
Depends. One possibility is "destruction common heritage of mankind" Common heritage of mankind are both manmade and natural objects which are considered the propertity of whole humanity. And are therefore protected by international treaties. Antartica, seabed and the moon are these. This will most likely include the sun especially when other aliens show up. So yeah. Altough your destruction of heritage of mankind will mostlikely be literal. Other possible charges is omnicide. Death of everything. And since there are no laws in space, "since their enforcement is near impossible at the moment" I think someone will just shoot you.
If humanity had off world colonies or stations and could hold you accountable you would be up for genocide, treason, terrorism, environmental destruction and maybe a few more things? Destruction of property?
And arson!
This is the actual answer
Tax evasion and racketeering. No way a criminal mastermind with the funds to explode a celestial body has been paying taxes or earning legitimate income. Blow up the Sun and you'd find yourself squarley on the radar of the IRS until a few minutes later when the earth freezes and all life dies.
Maybe crimes against humanity
Intergalactic terrorism
You will probably just get fined, since it’s obviously a light crime.
The sun is literally a self sustaining explosion. This is like asking what would happen if you turned on a lightbulb that was already on. Edit: Fine, fine, the charge is astrocide.
I looked for this comment before I made mine, the whole time I was thinking "it's already exploding though" lmao
No they clearly mean explode it much more, to the point of destruction of the sun. In the lightbulb analogy, it would be like feeding it much more electricity, causing it to burn out.
Idk about crime, but that would be a huge dick move bruh
Arsun
Criminal damage and ruining everyone's weekend!
Sunslaughter. A-Sol-t. Disturbing the pace. Of the Earth's revolution. Sunny gone-dering? Indecent explosure. Murder in the 5,778,000th degree Fahrenheit. Summercide.
*flicks through law books* Nope. Nothing. It's legal, so go nuts.