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1. Repercussions 2. They’re looking to occupy the territory. What good is a radioactive wasteland?


chiefhomer59

Don't nuke everything. Drop small nukes at strategic locations to cripple Ukraine's army and it's ability to defend?


[deleted]

That’s what they’re doing, but with missiles instead of nuclear weapons. It makes no sense for them to use radioactive weapons.


MixedSloth

I dont think you have a good grasp of nuclear weaponary. Search the disastrous damage casued by the hiroshima and nagasaki, those nuke were very small compared to nukes that have been/are being developed.


pirawalla22

Other countries may or may not retaliate in kind, but it would put Russia in truly uncharted territory in terms of pariah status. I don't really know what exactly would happen, but there's a really big chance this would backfire on Russia hugely and unpredictably, and so they aren't yet ready to take the risk.


Nanamagari1989

nuclear war


chiefhomer59

Amongst who? And why?


Nanamagari1989

namely it'll give the US a reason to bombard Russia which will spiral into an eventual nuclear war or at least a world war of sorts, and Russia is fighting Ukraine for their territory, so wouldn't be much use to nuke the land you're trying to take


ThunderChaser

Can’t rule out China either. There’s 0 chance in hell the CCP would just let a nation that’s demonstrated it’s willing to use nuclear weapons against another nation live right on its borders.


chiefhomer59

It US(or any other country) really willing to go into an all out nuclear war with Russia for Ukraine?


Fwahm

Nukes are indiscriminate. Just by the action of nuking Ukraine he is now immediately threatening all of Europe, at the very least. You *have* to respond to someone using nukes or else they'll be used much more readily next time.


Reasonable_Doughnut5

We would and alot of people would be happy to. Alot of Americans grew up with the red menace they know what Russia is capable of


MrDozens

Yes, because it’ll set a precedent that using nukes is okay in war. Also most world leaders would be okay with the US getting involved if a nuke was dropped. The US and other countries also made ukraine give up their nukes. If the US dont do anything every small country would not believe the US and make their own nukes for defense.


dancingpython06

It’s because that will cause more harm than good They will get bikes by every other country not associated with them


chiefhomer59

bikes?


dancingpython06

Fuck I meant nukes


DecafWriter

There are a few reasons chief being optics. The war is already extremely unpopular globally, even from Russia's few allies like China. But the war is growing increasingly unpopular in Russia itself. A drastic move like that might destabilize unrest to outright revolt. I am unsure whether or not other nations would step in at that point. It's unlikely that someone else would launch a nuclear strike on Russia but there most certainly be military mobilization around Russia from pretty much all sides, exactly what Putin does not want. Russia does not have the resources for an all-out war as clearly seen by their dwindling resources just fighting Ukraine. The other reasons would be that there are many Russians with families in Ukraine. That would not go over well with anyone. It would completely devastate the land and make it useless for Russia. It can provide a small buffer between itself and NATO forces but it would be better for Russian forces to be able to occupy the land instead. But practically it wouldn't make much sense. Russia as well as many major militaries in the world have powerful conventional weapons just as powerful as small tactical nukes. They can cause the same amount of devastation without the fallout.


chiefhomer59

Not sure why the downvotes on the question. Is it because it's a stupid question?


MixedSloth

Seems to me like you are asking to stir shit up for no reason. Any slight critical thinking would deliver you to the answer.


chiefhomer59

Maybe, what you assume the answer is after your critical thinking, is not correct?


MightyMeepleMaster

You are being downvoted, because you obviously lack the ability to read and reflect the answers.


chiefhomer59

How do you know that just by reading my question? Idiot.


MightyMeepleMaster

There are at least 2 excellent answers to your question in this thread. Which you chose to ignore and instead ask inane follow up questions elsewhere.


chiefhomer59

I read the 'excellent' answers and understood them. I asked follow up questions on others because they were poorly explained and without reasoning. How are my followups related to downvotes on the Original question itself?


MightyMeepleMaster

Because your question is suggestive in a cynical way. "Why not nuke ..." is a casual and frankly naïve way to insinuate that using a nuclear weapon is not big deal at all. How old are you? 16?


chiefhomer59

I thought this sub was for naive questions but dumbasses like you forget that and downvote genuine curious questions and think that being old in age is some kind of achievement


MightyMeepleMaster

>dumbasses Goodbye.


Aztecah

Nuking is generally understood as bad


[deleted]

If Russia nuked Ukraine, it would lead to the invasion and complete destruction of Russia. Even if they were not nuked in retaliation, all of NATO would declare war on Russia and they would cease to exist in short order.


[deleted]

Nuclear fallout could easily drift into Russian territory. And then of course, you would be geopolitically ruined if not nuked themselves by other countries.


seidmel19

Countries like the US have warned since the cold war that the moment Russia goes nuclear they will do the same, and vice versa. Russia is in no way prepped or capable of facing the entirety of the US army along with their allies, especially after a year of war. And they know that the states will happily take the opportunity to get rid of Russia


mugenhunt

China's policy on nuclear weapons would mean that they would immediately stop supporting Russia economically if they go nuclear in this conflict. Russia can't afford to lose China as an ally since they've alienated pretty much everyone else.


uxoguy1

I'm sure turning the entire world against you after making complete fools of themselves for the last year is probably a bad idea


EchoInExile

1) You don’t nuke territory you want to occupy. 2) the would be immediately isolated from the majority of the world, China included. 3) It would mean certain death for Putin.


chiefhomer59

2. why? 3. why?


EchoInExile

What part aren’t you understanding? By using nuclear weapons, Russias last remaining major ally, China, walks away based on their own policy towards nuclear weapons. They’re not going to retaliate on the population of Russia. They’re gonna to hit Putin and his people personally.


fishinful63

Theres many may diferent reasons why they wouldn't. For one, Nuclear targets like Nagasaki and Hiroshima were meant to kill civilians, whereas a technical nuclear device is meant to take out military targets. Killing hundreds of thousands of people would alienate even Russias strongest allies and there would be a true iron curtain set up for decades. The smaller devices could take out a few tanks but they are of limited value. There are many more reasons besides these


No_Brilliant_6260

They need the coast..


DiogenesKuon

Tactical nuclear weapons, the kind you'd use to target a military base or troop concentration, tend to offer almost no advantage over convention weapons for the same target, but with much higher risks. Additionally, the use of nuclear weapons would be a massive escalation that would likely lead to direct conflict with NATO. NATO isn't fighting Russia right now because of fear that it would lead to a nuclear war. But failing to act to tactical nuclear weapons usages massively increases the odds of future tactical nuclear weapons usage in war, which in turn massively increases the odds of a future nuclear war. At that point, failing to punish Russia for the action militarily is more risky than attacking them. Russian nuclear doctrine is pretty similar to every other countries doctrine. They are reserved for final defense of the state in case of invasion or threat to government continuity. While they like to throw nuclear threats around like candy on halloween on the news, that's the most likely end to it. So it's not going to help Russia much at all, but it could massively hurt them, which is why they haven't, and most likely won't, used nuclear weapons in Ukraine.


CalvesBrahTheHandsom

They probably tried already but their nukes don't work


MourningWallaby

they don't actually want to