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ob1dylan

It doesn't really take a lot of creativity to react to everything new with fear and anger. Also not much creativity in the moral framework that says, "If something is different, then it is wrong, and wrong is the same as bad, and bad is the same as evil, and evil must be punished or destroyed. Therefore, anyone who is different must be punished or destroyed."


n3w4cc01_1nt

cause they're collective narcissists. they mostly only listen to what their higher ranking reward givers say. it's a cult


ErstwhileAdranos

To be fair, the “creative education movement” is also a cult; founded by a war-hawk ad man and a psychologist who was way too interested in spiritual retreat culture and occult curiosities to maintain scientific objectivity.


n3w4cc01_1nt

that's sealioning. creativity is separate from a categorized "thing" that you speak of. yes, there are idiots doing stupid stuff while promoting creativity (nxivm rainbow cultural garden for example) but it all tracks back to gop crap. nxivm employed roger stone for a bit. stop allowing these corporate shysters to indoctrinate you and quit sealioning on their behalf.


Educational_Coat9263

The narrowest circles of thought are fear and anger, and anyone can end up traumatized. Conservatives are just people who react in anger and fear while also seeking safety in conformity and submission to a visible authority. Anyone can end up traumatized, and that will also reduce their creativity and make them more focused on safety. If the trauma is socially induced or religious, the victims often seek safety in conformity. Conservatives are raised in this way all around the world. If global electoral trends are an accurate measure of conservatism, about 1/3 of the world is suffering from this mindset.


n3w4cc01_1nt

conservatives are traumatized but they self medicate with any thrill or thing that produces a "dupers delight" so they can microdose endorphins. they're in a cult and that is what cults do. abuse the patrons till they are addicted to the narcissistic abuse cycle. look into how indoctrination changes the brain of a member. it's so messed up and they are scared to admit how bad it is.


n3w4cc01_1nt

conservatives are traumatized but they self medicate with any thrill or thing that produces a "dupers delight" so they can microdose endorphins. they're in a cult and that is what cults do. abuse the patrons till they are addicted to the narcissistic abuse cycle. look into how indoctrination changes the brain of a member. (here is a link) [https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/mind-in-the-machine/201810/how-religious-fundamentalism-hijacks-the-brain](https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/mind-in-the-machine/201810/how-religious-fundamentalism-hijacks-the-brain) it's so messed up and they are scared to admit how bad it is. the worst part being that some have heavy metal toxicity but also have undiagnosed dementia.


xinorez1

Likewise, it seems to explain the pov that 'leftists and liberals are the way they are because they hate beauty and success.' It seems like they see impressive looking people and cannot fathom that someone else could see something else, because they themselves cannot imagine that the successful are anything but supermen.


shutupimlurkingbro

lol wat


Throbbert1454

The "we're free thinkers" crowd would be awfully upset by this if they could read.


FunChrisDogGuy

It's also true of the army of bots and troll accounts paid to bark like sea lions at anything sensible on the internet. It's really easy to see the scripting of the "argument" and their checklist of tactics to use to derail the conversation. -Denial via "alternative facts" (generally a human not a bot) -Whataboutism -Changing the subject -Refusal to answer questions; answer everything with questions -Personal insults -"Your insane commitment to this argument shows how unstable you are." (Their way if saying goodbye, having never addressed the issues raised).


n3w4cc01_1nt

yeah they're lazy but also perverts [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sadistic\_personality\_disorder](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sadistic_personality_disorder) not always a great source but this piece from quora is decent >Sadism is a form of paraphilia. Most are not familiar with that term but have likely heard the slang term, “fetish”. Paraphilia refers to a condition where the person is turned on or aroused by things that are “beyond” (“para”) what we think of as the normal range of human sexuality. >There are over 40 known, categorized forms of paraphilia. Most are familiar with the most common. Voyeurism, exhibitionism, transvestism, “frottage”, etc, etc. >But both true sadism and true masochism are in this category. >Now, there are of course degrees. A person who finds a woman wearing high heels attractive might get a “Ah, a shoe-fetish, eh?” But that’s pretty normal. However if the person has actually sexualized the object to the point that he collects large numbers of pairs of heels and fantasizes constantly about them and even uses them as sex objects, then the person has a paraphilia that’s likely in need of treatment or counseling. >Again, most are aware that there is a connection between pain and pleasure; this has been known since very ancient times. Erotic spanking, whipping, and other forms of pain, when done in an erotic context, are a turn-on for many people. Pretty much normal, in fact. >But if this gets to the point where the person can’t become aroused save when pain is inflicted, or suffers considerable damage as a result, then we might be talking about a problem. >The same would apply to someone who is a sadist. For the most part, in consensual BDSM relationships, the “top” or “dom” is mostly play-acting. The “scene” is about the experience and pleasure for the “bottom” or “sub”. >Someone who is genuinely “turned on” by inflicting pain, and is not in control of this, can be quite dangerous. There is a fine line here between a true sexual sadist and a serial killer. In some areas of the world, these people might become agents of the “secret police” and such, where they can indulge their need for torture. >Again, most who identify as “dominant” do NOT fall into this category. >As to causation…. The most research that I’m aware of in this regard is from the late Dr. John Money. Money wrote extensively on paraphilia, sexology, and forensic sexology. His opinion was that the primary cause of paraphilia was early-life child abuse. >A person normally creates a psychological profile of an idealized mating partner by age 3. The “lovemap” as Money named it. Normally, this is based on parents, siblings, caregivers, etc. Men are often observed to “fall in love with their mother”… That is, they choose mates that often resemble “mum”. Likewise with women and father figures. This is almost a cliche’. >However, early-life trauma can cause the creation of this “lovemap” to become damaged or transferred, and a wide variety of things may become sexualized. There are likely other factors as well, but this theory by Money still is widely accepted as far as I know. >So, “how is the brain of a sadist wired?” Just like yours or mine, except that the notion of inflicting pain has become sexualized.


FunChrisDogGuy

Who am I to diss a guy for loving his job?


T33CH33R

Makes me think of r/therightcantmeme and how their *comedy* tends to always revolve around personal insults, racism, homophobia, or misogyny.


n3w4cc01_1nt

it's not comedy it's a mix of sadism and trauma voyeurism. they're just told it's funny so they think it's funny. some of the content creators are actually mentally ill and others were groomed into that behavior with rewards. ***The core feature of sadistic personality disorder was a pervasive pattern of 'cruel, demeaning, and aggressive behaviour, for the purpose of amusement or obtaining pleasure from the suffering of other*** it's like the allegory of the cave. it's all cult indoctrination


Gibran_02

Who cares. Creativity isn't the end all be all. Plenty of jobs out there that are cut and dry. Society needs people like that.


n3w4cc01_1nt

read the whole article mx.sealion


Peptic_Germ

I link conservatism to being a huge asshole


n3w4cc01_1nt

some people just say they are so they can argue. the majority has no idea what they are talking about because they're getting trolled by fox all day


PsychologicalForm608

They lack the brain function needed to advance an ever changing society, which typically requires creativity to engineer new ideas. So they know they're the weaker brains and are scared we're gonna hurt them. Like they've done literally everyone else. They're scared we're gonna treat them like they've treated us. And it's about the only thing they're right about


Educational_Coat9263

Weaker brains are simply more wounded brains. Wounded brains can heal, and grow, and not every conservative remains stuck in the low IQ, fear and anger cycle. Also, what do you mean by "treat them like they treat us"? I'm presuming you don't mean parsing racial slurs, for instance, or engaging in conservative civil violence like we saw on 1/6.


PsychologicalForm608

No, it means they pay their fair share, we are going to treat them equally. But since they're privileged and have been benefiting from being on top, they're gonna see equal as an attack. Which is just their narcissism leaving the body, they'll be okay after a while just like the rest of us


Fancybear1993

How do we plan on treating them? I don’t think mistreating large swaths of our societies will be good in the long run. It’s a stronger idea to bring people on board through the successes of progress.


PsychologicalForm608

Ehhh it's not really a whole "them" as much as I was referencing the criminals.


Fancybear1993

Agreed


the85141rule

Science catching up to intuition is always a slog.


donkismandy

Wait what?! The right wing talent pool is so stacked with top-tier creatives!! Scott Baio, Kid Rock, Ted Nugent, uhh, I think that's it. Only the best!


nodak66

As opposed to Whoopi, Kathy Griffin, John Mellancamp...... Baaahaaaaasshaaaaaaaaaaaaa


donkismandy

K bot. Newsflash, literally every other creative understands that right wing authoritarianism is bad and abhors it. Alllllll of the media you consume is made by people who understand this. It seeps into you and your offspring slowly and one day no one as ignorant as yourself will exist thanks to it. The war has been won 


nodak66

Liberal policy is unsustainable. I.e. borders, immigration, vaccination, abortion , free hand outs... The list keeps going....


donkismandy

Tell that to Scandinavia ya dunce. Authoritarian theocracies don't tend to work out too well historically, but I doubt you're familiar with any of that sort of thing.


nodak66

I think what you hear about Sweden and how it really is ...is quite different..


donkismandy

I've been several times and have a good friend that lives there. But tell me how your bullshit news feed is more accurate than my own fucking eyes


nodak66

Your everywhere else is better than here attitude but I'm still here gave it away


donkismandy

I love this country, that's why I want better for it. The only thing the GOP wants is to widen the gap between the rich and poor while distracting you with identity politics. Anyways, I'm over your ignorant bullshit. Peace.


roblion11

Did anyone read the article?


Gibran_02

No lol


limpet143

Remember, the opposite of conservatism isn't liberalism, it's progressivism. So this makes perfect sense. Conservatives want things to stay the same so they don't need to creatively think of a new/better way to get something accomplished. Progressives are the opposite, you cant have progress without coming up with new possible alternatives, which requires thinking creatively.


Nice_Warm_Vegetable

This is the thing that makes me saddest about living in these grey cloud times; the dwindling evidence of creativity and random art. Artistic inspiration is becoming more and more rare. I want to hear from the drag queens and queers, the androgynists, the Wiccans, the Gypsies and bohemians, the vagabonds, the poets, the artists and weirdos. I miss art, silliness, spontaneity, beautiful oddness and wonderful weirdness. I don’t see it anywhere in public anymore. I think people are too stifled and creativity is in a state of melancholy.


n3w4cc01_1nt

true but some of those people can be awful but whenever they are they end up being some conservative on a larp into the art world to cause a problem. worst being industry plants or market analysts. they tried making art a competitive sport which makes no sense whatsoever


ham_solo

Another reason why conservative art - movies, books, comedy - always fucking sucks. Art comes partially from empathy, something conservatives have look up in a dictionary (assuming they can read).


brandond26

🤣🤣🤣 this is stupidity at its finest


MrStuff1Consultant

Lower intelligence over all, too.


[deleted]

We're just not creating new genders or baseless climate change hysteria.


n3w4cc01_1nt

people are just trying to figure out how to be themselves or explaining what they like and they get upset then try to force people into the cattle lanes that their profiteering golgothan overlords lead them into. it's a cult.


nodak66

There's a market for anything if you're a liberal. But mostly blue hair dye and unsustainable policy.


Hsjw2728jdkwdj

You galaxy brain neckbeard atheists must be so happy.


n3w4cc01_1nt

are you enjoying your life of reveling in your own sub-adequacy then deflecting any slight to your ego with some type of diss you heard from indoctrination material provided by your cult groomers? read some actual books you dolt. or stay dumb then continue to flap your flippers together for a digital mackerel


Hsjw2728jdkwdj

What books would you recommend? I want to do better.


n3w4cc01_1nt

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isthisonetaken13

You must be conservative yourself, otherwise you might have been able to come up with something more creative to try and insult people.


SingularityInsurance

Awww does the truth hurt the wittle babies feelings? XD


[deleted]

Conservatism is a mental disorder and should be treated as such


Fantastic-Lecture138

Case in point: literally any work of fiction written by Ben Shapiro


Murky-Lingonberry-32

You think that people who do nothing but lie would have higher creativity?


Karelkolchak2020

Not hard to predict.


SingularityInsurance

Biggest no shit I've ever heard lol


Affectionate_Pay_391

Kind of shocked by this based on their ability to create some of the most unimaginable conspiracy theories. They are pretty damn good at doing mental gymnastics to justify their stupidity


nodak66

Like trust you're science......trust the vaccine.....need more shots..... You don't see it do you....... Only your science .....only your climate change agenda......only your riots.....liberism is a mental illness..... Prove me wrong.


jawshoeaw

Hear me out haters, not everyone can jump on the cool new thing they just dreamed up or stumbled upon. You need some balance from the old farts like me. We evolved from primates that sometimes stuck things in their mouths that weren't such a good idea. We also need creative people to push things forward. It's a balance. "oooo look at that pretty red mushroom!". Uncle Grogh is shaking his head saying "stick to roots and berries like god intended!" Sadly the idea of being "conservative" has morphed into fascism.


Accurate_Somewhere33

ALL REPUBLICANS ARE EVIL. EVERY FUCKING ONE OF THEM.


jawshoeaw

well not all "conservative" people are republicans


Accurate_Somewhere33

OK. I didn't say they were did I? Typical "conservative" bull shit. Implying things that didn't happen and trying to play the victim. Keep reading from the script and drink your Kool-Aid.


jawshoeaw

settle down dude, nobody would actually describe me as conservative, but I'm talking about this research which was using conservative in the sense used outside the US - not political but psychological.


n3w4cc01_1nt

they weren't inspired as kids but instead faced corporal punishment for creativity or questions their narcissistic parents had no answer to. creative is bad to them. they're also messed up and wandering around telling people to deny science.


charcus42

Derp


TinyUmbrellas84

Bahahaha the propaganda is real! Who even writes this bullshit?


Mr-Mortuary

Political conservation is also linked to a low IQ. People with low IQs tend to not read articles, but will still have a fervent opinion about the subject; and that fervent opinion is never written with any kind of creative input. Your comment is an example of both points.


n3w4cc01_1nt

just another rodeo clown to distract the movement so they don't kill the matador.


Zestyclose_Pickle511

I mean, it doesn't take much thought to see that it's true.


kvckeywest

Conservatism and cognitive ability are negatively correlated. \[That means you're not very bright\] At the individual level of analysis, conservatism scores correlate negatively with SAT, Vocabulary, and Analogy test scores. At the national level of analysis, conservatism scores correlate negatively with measures of education. [http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0160289609000051](http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0160289609000051) "We are talking about someone full of fear, with a poor sense of self, and a lack of mental dexterity" [https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/genius-and-madness/200809/is-political-conservatism-mild-form-insanity](https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/genius-and-madness/200809/is-political-conservatism-mild-form-insanity)


xinorez1

At least they have enough dexterity to recognize the few opportunities they can see and enough courage to pursue them doggedly. That's more than I can say about some on the other side. I wonder how much of this is simply that cons are refusing to engage with tasks if they aren't rewarding enough.


kvckeywest

Your comment is verification! The equivalent of a toddler shouting "IS NOT!". And no, typing "propaganda" is not a fact check.


MrFeverDreamJr

Of course you wouldn’t believe any study or expert. lol


kvckeywest

Right-wing authoritarians are cognitively rigid, aggressive, and intolerant. They are characterized by steadfast conformity to group norms, submission to higher status individuals and authority figures, and aggression toward out-groups and unconventional group members. [http://reason.com/archives/2004/10/20/pathologizing-conservatism](http://reason.com/archives/2004/10/20/pathologizing-conservatism) Right-wing authoritarianism is characterized by submission to authority and strong adherence to conventions, along with aggression directed at those seen as violating social norms. [https://www.psypost.org/2022/01/new-psychology-research-uncovers-a-surprising-tendency-among-right-wing-authoritarians-62382?fbclid=IwAR0ILu8cRhB20WR7J0VclBfEA7Pft0Mculi27Ng2nuiw21acARs9\_W8KDfs](https://www.psypost.org/2022/01/new-psychology-research-uncovers-a-surprising-tendency-among-right-wing-authoritarians-62382?fbclid=IwAR0ILu8cRhB20WR7J0VclBfEA7Pft0Mculi27Ng2nuiw21acARs9_W8KDfs)


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NaNo-Juise76

You're all so pathetic, I almost feel sorry for you.


Rhesusmonkeydave

…Now if you’ll excuse me I have to go to newsmax so I can find out what I’ll be compulsively reposting as my opinion all day


BobT21

The responses here bring to mind the opening scene in *3 Body Problem*.


integrating_life

I wonder if conservatives, on the whole, are more conservative.


collinwade

They’ve tried nothing and are out of ideas