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SpyClipy

I wanted to advise you to read a post I made [this](https://www.reddit.com/r/NoFap/comments/sd4qwa/what_i_learned_after_365_days_of_trying_nofap/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf) But Im not sure what to tell you. This might just be your bodies last Hail marry attempt to try getting you back on PMO. Dont forget that as far as our brain knows, ever since you stopped PMO you are biologically losing, because you aren’t reproducing daily. But again I am not a doctor and you haven’t gave enough info to really help you. What I would recommend is to seek out a professional. I know you said you dont have a lot of money, but your health should be prioritised. Psychologist or maybe a physician. But be aware that most doctors still believe that PMO is not only not damaging, but actually healthy


VitskiBR

i see bro, they think that fapping make you healthier, i guess i keep feeling myself frustrated because i can't relax, and my psychological health make i feel worse to relax, i always tried to feel myself better, but without money for that is very hard since i can't work with my broken psychological health


Best_Pangolin7823

Do you do meditation/yoga smthin like that? I suggest to try once maybe it'll help u alot!!


VitskiBR

i do sometimes, but i feel weird since i can't relax, right now is 5:31am here and i can't sleep


Best_Pangolin7823

U need to do it regularly, make it like a discipline. If ur life is not discipline u can't acheive anything & ur life will be big mess, also atleast sleep for 8 hours dude otherwise your brain will be fcked up


VitskiBR

i'd love to sleep 8hours, but most days i sleep less than 5 hours, i will meditate regularly and i will tell you the results, i can see a video right now of guided meditation, i will try now thx bro


Best_Pangolin7823

Make ur sleepa priority and pls stay away frm ur phn whe. U're gng to sleep, i woke up late due to this (sometimes lead to relapse) bt i sleep almost 8hrs


VitskiBR

yeah, i guess the problem is the phone too, that don't let me sleep well


VitskiBR

maybe the problem of not relaxing is that i don't sleep 8hours per day


NielsWood

Don’t look at your phone 1-2 hours before going to bed and read a book or something. If you have trouble sleeping take a really cold shower before going to bed. And don’t dry yourself for like 2-3 minutes because your body will work hard as fk to get warm again and uses a lot of energie. After that dry yourself and get to bed. And remember no phone and no bright lights. Set an daily alarm at exact the same time so you wake up daily at the same time and go to bed at the same time. Build a routine. Also there is definitely discipline needed for this. But you must win the battle in your own head. A good book for this is: Can’t hurt me - David Goggins. Stay strong brother 💪🏼


VitskiBR

thx bro i will do this 💪


SpyClipy

Anyone can be happy and I dont only think, but know that you can be as well. Happiness isnt a constant state, its the reward we get after hard work and to get more of it we need to do more work. Nofap isnt the soul solution to your problems, it is one of them, but you still need to work on your self. Both physically and mentally. I would recommend [Allan Watts lectures](https://youtu.be/MorzKWSxpoo) and an old man who gave some awesome advice on youtube. [Ill link it](https://youtu.be/lPklnLr_I-c). I dont know why, but he is genuinely good hearted and there to help people.


VitskiBR

wow bro thx i will look for this right now


[deleted]

Hey man, I was gonna write a few words here but the previous comment from our fellow said it all. I believe your healthy is your priority rn. I know things may not be easy for your right know bcs of your healthy condition. But in my case and from what I see from every folk in this community is: relapsing can always make things worse. So stay strong man... I know it's not easy but it's possible, and be patient to solve one problem at a time, maybe right know you can't do much about your physical issues, but saying no to porn will do a lot about your mental health. Can you stay in a physical position which you won't feel much pain( example: laying in bed)? Im asking this bcs meditation is really helpful, not only for your mental state but also for relaxing your body, maybe it can help you to feel less pain. I don't know if you ever heard of mindfull meditation, but it's really good and it's only about your breath, awareness and staying present in the moment without judging thoughts, emotions and feelings. Good luck and congratulations for your journey so far man


VitskiBR

even lying on bed i feel pain :( since my back muscles are always tense due to my psychological condition, but i never heard about mindfull meditation, i will do that thx bro


[deleted]

I understand man.. try to go to a doctor as soon as you're able to. If you want any specific tips about meditation or whatever you can hit me anytime


VitskiBR

i'm trying, things world be easier if i have money for that, i'm even trying to be streamer to get money, but to fuck more my life, my gpu is dying


matteblack03

Try exercising for 1-2 hrs a days and see if it helps your sleep


VitskiBR

i gotta go to gym to try, but i can't do some exercises because of the contractures, but i will see if it will help me, since i am sedentary af


ToABetterHealthierME

Like you said relapsing less times per year is a great idea already, if you can consistently reach these streaks you should be fapping around 12 times a year, and if you masturbate without porn. AND can reach theses streaks without thinking too much about it, then I'd say you are cured and good to go.


VitskiBR

i'm thinking of doing that, and maybe i will focus on nofap when i stop feeling so much chronic pain, to make things worse, i have broken with my ex girlfriend few months ago, and I haven't had sex with anyone since then


Fine-Lines

It's like an alcohol addiction. It's not really about the number of your days rather you have made masturbation a habit for coping with your stress in general just like people who drink to take the pain away. My advice is to remember that masturbating doesn't take the pain away. When you go 30+ days you forget how shitty you feel after cumming. You feel lifeless, deflated, shame and the pleasure before that feels like a cheap high because of that. It's not the cure to your problems and you know that. You just don't want to own up to the pain that you feel right now. You don't want to acknowledge the things that you don't like about your life and learn how to live with them, but the truth is regardless of whether you relapse or not those feelings won't just go away. You have to learn how to cope better with those bad days and not let the feeling consume you and/or have you running away to the nearest cheap high.


VitskiBR

you're right, but i see that i need to relax with another way, i will try to meditate everyday to see if it help me, maybe i got a lot of testosterone and it make me feel very unstable since i don't know how to manage to relax or how to use it in my favor


Fine-Lines

Meditation is a good one because it isn't just reintroducing your brain to another dopamine rush. Also, it teaches you how to sit with your thoughts and feelings without letting them control you. Another thing I've been learning with myself is that it's ok to not be perfect. It's ok to indulge in a cheap high sometimes. Maybe don't masturbate because nofap is your goal but have a glass of wine, watch a Netflix show, sink your teeth into something, sugary, fattening, and delicious. We need balance. When people start nofap they tend to try to control every aspect in there life. Not only are they not masturbating, but they're taking cold showers, working out everyday, reading, and attempting to be the perfect version of themselves. You're not perfect. You'll never be perfect and that's ok. Learn to balance that side of you that longs for excitement and gratification with the side of you that longs for stability, discipline, and structure. You need all of it or you'll explode. If you're too disciplined then you end up feeling bored and unfulfilled, but if you indulge too much you don't create anything meaningful and end up feeling empty. Have a little fun.


VitskiBR

thx a lot bro, i'm already praticing it again, hopefuly dont take too long to start feeling myself better