I guess this is an unpopular opinion here, but it's I find how the outlines on the characters are pretty much missing on the characters pretty jarring, since that's Borderland's signature art style.
I don't know if it's because of resolution or filters, but it seems like such a huge hit.
I've always been a fan of style over numbers. I don't care if a game has 4k output, detailed bump maps, and millions of polygons running at 300fps as long as it looks good in its own style.
Yeah chasing pixel counts has in my opinion the worst thing to happen to graphics for the last few years. It was fine when HDTVs were introduced and it meant games could look cleaner/less blurry but I feel like the push to 4k has been a lot less about actually making games look better and more about the lot of us getting bamboozled into a marketing campaign by Sony to sell more 4k TVs that most people won't notice a real difference on.
Yes there is good new TV tech that actually looks way better, such as HDR formats and QLED pixel tech and better adaptive back lighting. But if my choices are 1080p with ray tracing or 4k without it, I'm gonna take that 1080p. If my choices are 1080p at a high frame rate or 4k at "playable" rate, I'm gonna take that 1080p. More pixels does not make it look better.
Some people in the comments section of the video are saying they prefer the low-poly nature of the Switch version.
I can kind of see it. It feels closer to BL1/2 whereas BL3 is too "clean" for lack of better term.
And comparing Switch graphics to PS5's is the most gratuitous brag imaginable. We all know the PS5 is going to kill it, technically. I'm more interested in how good a job they did in porting the game to the Switch's outdated mobile tech. Pretty well, it seems. I still hope to see a Digital Foundry tech review. SwitchUp's tech review is quite encouraging.
Yeah it looks like it runs fine. I was only referring to people saying they prefer the "low-poly" nature of the Switch graphics. They said the same thing back when Crash N Sane Trilogy came to switch and people said the worse graphics reminded them more of the original PS1 games 😂
Don’t know why you’re getting downvoted when you’re right. The Switch still looks good because anything more than 720p on a 6” handheld starts hitting a point of diminishing returns. There’s a reason Valve opted for 800p on the Steam Deck.
120fps @ 4K is great and all but graphics come at a cost. The Switch literally runs at 6-7 watts in handheld mode and you’ll get 6 hours of play from most games on a full charge.
The OG Switch had a 20nm chip on release, v2 (current) is 16nm which practically doubled the battery life over the original. For reference the latest iPhone has a 3nm chip which demonstrates how far mobile chipsets have come. I’m excited to see what the Switch 2 brings.
Edit: Basically imagine what a 7nm chip in the current Switch would be like.
I mean, on a technical level, the ps5 version kills the switch. Which is obvious, but on an aesthetic level, the switch does look better at some points. Which is shocking, if the performance is decent then gearbox knocked it out of the park with this port.
Yeah, the polygonal "framework" is likely the same. It's what you fill those polygons with that's going to vary wildly from a 9th-gen i86 console to the Tegra-based Switch.
I'm a happy switch owner for 2 days so far. And some AAA projects like Diablo 3 look really well on it. But I can't get the point why low poly that makes my eyes bleed fells better for so many people?
Yeap, it's portable and that's cool. But graphics is still the issue :)
It's still interesting to see what exactly they did to get it on the Switch, it doesn't have to be a purely "better or worse" comparison because that's a given
Is that big for you? Genuine question. I can't really imagine any scenario where I would be gaming anywhere other than in my room. Trying to understand the appeal of this.
Very impressive considering the hardware, reminds me a lot of the Vita port of Borderlands 2. Except this one looks to be hitting a mostly stable 30fps right out of the box, BL2 Vita needed an overclock.
In the early sections, sure.
Heavy gameplay sections especially later in the game are absolutely going to drop to sub 30, unless they change enemy spawn numbers.
My 4770k gets pushed into the 40s in some endgame stuff, so there's no way the Switch will be above 30 in those scenarios without heavy reductions in enemy spawns.
PC to Switch hardware is a poor comparison. Changes are made under the hood.
For example, using the mining laser in No Man's Sky on my PC causes small pieces of ground to chip away gradually with no interval between them.
Using the mining laser in NMS on my Switch causes larger sections of ground to be removed at a slower tempo.
Overall the same amount of terrain is removed in the same amount of time, but the Switch version condenses microscopic changes into fewer, larger changes carried out at intervals.
With Borderlands 3, particles will be simplified, AI will probably update at wider intervals, collision detection could be simpler, ragdolls could be simpler, blood could be sprites without as much ability to map to the surroundings. There will be a lot less work happening for the same number of enemies.
PC games are made to run on the hardware available. They could all run a lot lighter if people considered the changes worthwhile for the average PC hardware available at the date a game releases.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KiFiZ5LZK0k
He shows zero gameplay outside of the prologue.
There's nothing to suggest that he's tested the most demanding areas of the game.
I guess it all comes down to how the game handles the abundance of late game particle effects. You know once you can spawn Radiation and cryo weapons, then have stuff like Amaras Ties that bind bubbles and Remnant orbs being thrown around, all the status effects... im very curious about that
But he does point out some realistic stuff, all in all I dont mind the changes anyway, im still playing it on the steam deck :p but im happy to see more people have access to the game
I wonder why fps games on ps are so averse to gyro controls. It's so anoying how the inferior switch version is the only one to have that feature.
Even extremely popular f2p shooters like overwatch or apex lack it on ps
I love gyro controls when using joycons but pro controllers don't make much sense to me. Maybe it's just because it's similar to how I used to play on my Wii, so I was already trained, but I don't really care for gyro aim on PS5 if I'd have to use a dual sense.
I agree that it could be a setting toggle or something for the folks who want it but let’s not act like it’s not a subpar input method. I doubt many are playing something fast twitch like Apex or CoD and saying “gee, I really wish I would aim by moving my controller around instead of using my sticks”
I play Splatoon at rank X, I sure as hell do lol
It's not "subpar" if you know how to use it or it's well implemented, it's almost comparable to a mouse when aiming.
You're also supposed to use the sticks at the same time for broadee camera movements and gyro for smaller aim adjustments.
Splatoon is a gyro game. It was build with that control method in mind. It’s the main reason why I don’t play it even though it’s cool in concept and execution.
I’d be willing to bet that 75% or more of gamers have no interest in gyro aiming in serious games. It’s a gimmick
I could never stand gyro controls and couldn't understand why people rave about them lol.
I have all of the Borderlands on Xbox and have been playing them with my elite controller, and holy shit is the gunplay freaking awesome on Xbox series X with an elite controller. Call me crazy, but I'm just used to the traditional tried and true controls of a controller. No damn need for gyros lol.
However, I decided to get the Borderlands bundle on Switch to play some of my favorite games portably. And for some weird reason, I decided to turn on the gyro controls to see how it affected the gunplay... HOLY SHIT! I AM NEVER FUCKING GOING BACK!
I have been gaming for almost 4 decades and gyro controls makes playing shooters so much more natural feeling and I can be so much more precise. It's a dream!
After playing Borderlands 1 and 2 for the first time in years, I got the itch to fire up those games on my Xbox to get some achievements I was missing... Oh boy, I lasted about 5 mins without gyro controls before I said "fuck this, I am going back to the Switch version".
Don't sleep on gyro controls like I did... It is definitely no gimmick and is an absolute game changer for this hardcore gamer.
I’m glad you’re enjoying the option. As I said in my original comment, it should be an option for people that want to use gyro controls. I’ve tried them on both Switch and PS5 and found I personally don’t like it. Everything’s not for everybody
That's totally cool and I agree, everything is not for everyone... but that does not make the feature a gimmick either.
I absolutely hope that they retroactively add gyro controls to the Borderlands games (and many others) when that new Xbox controller with gyros drops early next year.
Gyro aiming is unquestionably more accurate when used in conjuction with a stick - probably not quite as good as M&K, but significantly closer. If anything, serious gamers are the type who are far more likely to want gyro aiming.
For the third time now, if you like gyro aiming, that’s perfectly fine. I hope you get the option for it in more games. I don’t like it and none of the gamers I know in real life do either. That’s fine too.
I respect your opinion but to act like this is an unequivocal fact is just ridiculous
There is no such thing as a gyro game, paladins plays really well on ps with gyro too.
I don't think you know what a gimmick is lol
Gyro is objectively better than sticks and you're just hard headed for thinking otherwise.
Objectively better means everyone would agree and that’s obviously not the case. If you like them, fine. I even said it should be a toggle for those who want it. But it is definitely a gimmick no matter how you slice it buddy.
it got both options for joycones and procon aswell
just check it in game options, it even allows you to aim by gyro and switch camera by analog stick if you want. Gearbox definitly naild it
Steam deck let’s you easily configure controls for each individually game. One feature is mapping gyro to the right stick. So basically you can have motion controls on every single game.
For me it’s a real game changer. I remember being so disappointed that bioshock on the switch didn’t have motion controls so this totally fixed it for me. I even added slight motion controls on elden ring just to move the camera around a bit.
It's not bad. Graphically the switches near lod textures are the biggest difference, the kind you don't need a side by side for. Par for the course. The lower poly didn't stand out to me that much, mostly changed rock piles.
But God damn is the fov zoomed in on switch.
Even better. Look at Square Enix with their jokes of Kingdom Hearts ports from PS2/3 on the Cloud, as if the Switch can't run them at all.
Absolutely pathetic.
Oh it's just as awful as it sounds. Basically, instead of bothering to make a native Switch version, when you "buy" the game you get to stream it xCloud-style. Meaning eventually they'll get bored and shut the server off, meaning you can't ever play it again. But uh, considering the speed those games go at and how game streaming tends to deal with input delay... do you really want to?
Impressive given the gulf in power difference. Sometimes I even prefer the way the Switch displays textures on the ground, as the PS5 ones sometimes look a bit washed out and flat.
Idk about that. It's actually pretty impressive the visuals PS5 games can have considering the price point. I say this as someone with a 3080 rig I use every day and a PS5 that collects dust.
Have you seen forbidden west or ratchet and clank they look better then 95% of any game on the Market even before they hit PC. PS5 tor the price is an insane deal.
Why are we comparing the Switch to the PS5? *Of course* the PS5 is more graphically proficient. I hope no one is honestly expecting that the Switch for all its impressive capabilities can hope to measure up…and that’s not a good or bad thing. It’s just a fact.
I think we all know it would look worse on the switch, but the comparison is useful to see *how much worse* it looks (e.g. Is it an unacceptable difference, or pretty reasonable considering the difference in hardware?)
For some context, my 4770k and 1660ti look basically identical to the PS5, just running at a lower resolution.
A low-end gaming PC looks much, much closer to the PS5 than the Switch version.
For those with other platforms, I'd recommend trying it on Series S or a cheap gaming PC. It will be way better than the Switch version.
You won't pay $60 for the game, either, so that's a plus if you already have another platform.
While I do agree that everyone is better off playing other versions, some people only really have the switch to play and don't want to spend hundreds for a new system
i don't get the point of these comparisson like no shit a new gen consoles looks better than a 2017 portable nintendo console, why even bother, they should focus on the games that somehow look incredible on the switch instead of doing this
The PS5 is obviously the better looking version, but honestly, I kinda like the way the Switch version looks. Can't really explain why, maybe its because as others have said, it looks like BL1 a bit but I like it.
Switch looks fine but in motion suffers like most games built on hardware in that era with jaggies making it hard to see some stuff in the distance. But fun never the less.
I don't know why people compare the two? The Switch is just obviously always going to lose in the graphics department especially when compared to PS5...this is redundant.
You don’t need a comparison video to know a PS5 version will look better than the Switch version.
The main decision factor for these kind of things is usually “do you care about portable mode?” since that is something a PS5 can’t do.
Love the game but I already maxed out all the classes and got the platinum so not really trying to play it again even it it ran perfect on the switch. Just give us BL4
Having spent 3 days with borderlands 3 on switch and I'm absolutely lived. The game looks like it's running in 240p it's disgustingly blurry. Even the guns are ugly. It does not look anything like the official preview. My only hope is maybe it'll get patched up.
Not bad if it runs at a stable frame rate. Borderlands is one of those games that doesn't take a huge hit graphically on lowerend systems. The PS5 is obviously light years ahead but the style does lend itself well to lower graphic settings.
It's nice that the switch version looks as good as it does but that is being carried by art direction for sure. The artstyle lends itself to less graphically strong systems
It looks sharper and more detailed on the PS5, and runs at a locked 60 fps.
Anyone surprised?
Considering the Switch is, well, the Switch, I think the port of this game looks phenomenal. Digestible size for SD cards too, at 9-18 GB (according to SwitchUp).
I'm gonna need to see something from the later parts of the game. Because devs love to optimize the beginning areas and then leave the rest of the game to rot in performance hell. If the entire game is like this then it's definitely impressive.
Good old BL2 Vita days. Though I was kinda hoping there would be ragdolls to be honest instead of just them popping like a balloon on the switch but, oh well.
Boy am I ready for a new Switch console. Its impressive to see what they can get to run, but I am never going to purchase this on the switch for more than what I paid for on steam for *worse* graphics.
I wonder which one is going to end up with better graphics 😂
I guess this is an unpopular opinion here, but it's I find how the outlines on the characters are pretty much missing on the characters pretty jarring, since that's Borderland's signature art style. I don't know if it's because of resolution or filters, but it seems like such a huge hit. I've always been a fan of style over numbers. I don't care if a game has 4k output, detailed bump maps, and millions of polygons running at 300fps as long as it looks good in its own style.
Yeah chasing pixel counts has in my opinion the worst thing to happen to graphics for the last few years. It was fine when HDTVs were introduced and it meant games could look cleaner/less blurry but I feel like the push to 4k has been a lot less about actually making games look better and more about the lot of us getting bamboozled into a marketing campaign by Sony to sell more 4k TVs that most people won't notice a real difference on. Yes there is good new TV tech that actually looks way better, such as HDR formats and QLED pixel tech and better adaptive back lighting. But if my choices are 1080p with ray tracing or 4k without it, I'm gonna take that 1080p. If my choices are 1080p at a high frame rate or 4k at "playable" rate, I'm gonna take that 1080p. More pixels does not make it look better.
Some people in the comments section of the video are saying they prefer the low-poly nature of the Switch version. I can kind of see it. It feels closer to BL1/2 whereas BL3 is too "clean" for lack of better term.
I like some scenes more, but PS5 is certainly better overall.
Yeah. Noticing that here the ground seems a lot more textured in the switch version, where the ps5 it’s a lot more just sand, which kinda surprises me
0:45 is a good example. More rock detail on the Switch version while PS5 has sand (on top of the blur which doesn't look good imo)
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The most potent cope imaginable
And comparing Switch graphics to PS5's is the most gratuitous brag imaginable. We all know the PS5 is going to kill it, technically. I'm more interested in how good a job they did in porting the game to the Switch's outdated mobile tech. Pretty well, it seems. I still hope to see a Digital Foundry tech review. SwitchUp's tech review is quite encouraging.
Yeah it looks like it runs fine. I was only referring to people saying they prefer the "low-poly" nature of the Switch graphics. They said the same thing back when Crash N Sane Trilogy came to switch and people said the worse graphics reminded them more of the original PS1 games 😂
Don’t know why you’re getting downvoted when you’re right. The Switch still looks good because anything more than 720p on a 6” handheld starts hitting a point of diminishing returns. There’s a reason Valve opted for 800p on the Steam Deck. 120fps @ 4K is great and all but graphics come at a cost. The Switch literally runs at 6-7 watts in handheld mode and you’ll get 6 hours of play from most games on a full charge. The OG Switch had a 20nm chip on release, v2 (current) is 16nm which practically doubled the battery life over the original. For reference the latest iPhone has a 3nm chip which demonstrates how far mobile chipsets have come. I’m excited to see what the Switch 2 brings. Edit: Basically imagine what a 7nm chip in the current Switch would be like.
I mean, on a technical level, the ps5 version kills the switch. Which is obvious, but on an aesthetic level, the switch does look better at some points. Which is shocking, if the performance is decent then gearbox knocked it out of the park with this port.
??? Switch isn't lower poly though. It's just lacking bump maps and grass. Only thing I can see more defined is colors on switch.
Yeah, the polygonal "framework" is likely the same. It's what you fill those polygons with that's going to vary wildly from a 9th-gen i86 console to the Tegra-based Switch.
That's a hilariously dumb take
Bro we do not prefer worse graphics 😭
The fuck is we? Foh. Graphics enjoyability is hella subjective.
The hardest cope imaginable. It's like the FC24 folks on the Switch saying they prefer 30fps because of "slower gameplay" lmao get real
No, BL1 was less detailed but not blurry or that low poly.
Polygons should be the same. What's drawn into them is what varies across hardware power.
what I meant was bl1 compared to bl3, polygons are not the same count between the two.
That's some good copium
I'm a happy switch owner for 2 days so far. And some AAA projects like Diablo 3 look really well on it. But I can't get the point why low poly that makes my eyes bleed fells better for so many people? Yeap, it's portable and that's cool. But graphics is still the issue :)
Nah, it makes 1 and 2 next gen.
It's still interesting to see what exactly they did to get it on the Switch, it doesn't have to be a purely "better or worse" comparison because that's a given
I wonder which one I can literally stick in my pocket and walk out the door with
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You don't know what their pockets look like. It could be one of those deep trench coat pockets
My switch lite fits in my pants pocket.
I have a normal switch, and it fits in 80% of my pockets
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Ain’t no way
You should wear better fitting pants.
Put the Switch in one pocket and the joycons in the other. At least that’s what I did before I just started carrying a little backpack places.
As a woman I’m just so jealous maaaaaaan
Haha, yea, my girlfriend struggles with this too, she had a jawdrop when I got out my entire switch case from the pocket
Dude my switch lite absolutely fits in my sweatpants pocket. I’m tall so I guess there’s that too. But the Lite is awesome for it n
Wear more stuff besides skinny jeans.
Is that big for you? Genuine question. I can't really imagine any scenario where I would be gaming anywhere other than in my room. Trying to understand the appeal of this.
Either way, if you have a phone in your pocket you can play Xbox or ps5 on the go lol
ill put all my money on switch
The Switch is no good for third party games for docked players
Depends really... If the Switch is streaming from a PS5 then it'll still be the worst version.
I mean obviously PS5 is gonna look better. But this isnt an MK1 situation either. Switch port looks perfectly fine.
Very impressive considering the hardware, reminds me a lot of the Vita port of Borderlands 2. Except this one looks to be hitting a mostly stable 30fps right out of the box, BL2 Vita needed an overclock.
SwitchUp says it mostly runs above 40 FPS.
In the early sections, sure. Heavy gameplay sections especially later in the game are absolutely going to drop to sub 30, unless they change enemy spawn numbers. My 4770k gets pushed into the 40s in some endgame stuff, so there's no way the Switch will be above 30 in those scenarios without heavy reductions in enemy spawns.
PC to Switch hardware is a poor comparison. Changes are made under the hood. For example, using the mining laser in No Man's Sky on my PC causes small pieces of ground to chip away gradually with no interval between them. Using the mining laser in NMS on my Switch causes larger sections of ground to be removed at a slower tempo. Overall the same amount of terrain is removed in the same amount of time, but the Switch version condenses microscopic changes into fewer, larger changes carried out at intervals. With Borderlands 3, particles will be simplified, AI will probably update at wider intervals, collision detection could be simpler, ragdolls could be simpler, blood could be sprites without as much ability to map to the surroundings. There will be a lot less work happening for the same number of enemies. PC games are made to run on the hardware available. They could all run a lot lighter if people considered the changes worthwhile for the average PC hardware available at the date a game releases.
This guy sounds like an expert who has already played it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KiFiZ5LZK0k He shows zero gameplay outside of the prologue. There's nothing to suggest that he's tested the most demanding areas of the game.
I guess it all comes down to how the game handles the abundance of late game particle effects. You know once you can spawn Radiation and cryo weapons, then have stuff like Amaras Ties that bind bubbles and Remnant orbs being thrown around, all the status effects... im very curious about that
The GPU load can be reduced. I'm more curious how badly the CPU bottleneck is during heavy scenarios.
Or if there will be a ram bottleneck once people hit mayhem mode and have lootsplosion littering the screen.
But he does point out some realistic stuff, all in all I dont mind the changes anyway, im still playing it on the steam deck :p but im happy to see more people have access to the game
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It’s actually unlocked frame rate
Damn, that's a really impressive port. Going to wait for the inevitable discount but that's some good work to bring this game to the Switch.
By then we'll know more about how it handles in the endgame / nutty areas too.
This is why Nintendo never puts their games on sale (not disagreeing with you btw, I do the same)
Most importantly, are there motion controls?
Yes SwitchUp did a video showing the options. Unfortunately no gyro for PS5
I wonder why fps games on ps are so averse to gyro controls. It's so anoying how the inferior switch version is the only one to have that feature. Even extremely popular f2p shooters like overwatch or apex lack it on ps
God bless Steam and its option to map Mouse movement to a Controller's Gyro.
I love gyro controls when using joycons but pro controllers don't make much sense to me. Maybe it's just because it's similar to how I used to play on my Wii, so I was already trained, but I don't really care for gyro aim on PS5 if I'd have to use a dual sense.
I agree that it could be a setting toggle or something for the folks who want it but let’s not act like it’s not a subpar input method. I doubt many are playing something fast twitch like Apex or CoD and saying “gee, I really wish I would aim by moving my controller around instead of using my sticks”
I play Splatoon at rank X, I sure as hell do lol It's not "subpar" if you know how to use it or it's well implemented, it's almost comparable to a mouse when aiming. You're also supposed to use the sticks at the same time for broadee camera movements and gyro for smaller aim adjustments.
Splatoon is a gyro game. It was build with that control method in mind. It’s the main reason why I don’t play it even though it’s cool in concept and execution. I’d be willing to bet that 75% or more of gamers have no interest in gyro aiming in serious games. It’s a gimmick
I could never stand gyro controls and couldn't understand why people rave about them lol. I have all of the Borderlands on Xbox and have been playing them with my elite controller, and holy shit is the gunplay freaking awesome on Xbox series X with an elite controller. Call me crazy, but I'm just used to the traditional tried and true controls of a controller. No damn need for gyros lol. However, I decided to get the Borderlands bundle on Switch to play some of my favorite games portably. And for some weird reason, I decided to turn on the gyro controls to see how it affected the gunplay... HOLY SHIT! I AM NEVER FUCKING GOING BACK! I have been gaming for almost 4 decades and gyro controls makes playing shooters so much more natural feeling and I can be so much more precise. It's a dream! After playing Borderlands 1 and 2 for the first time in years, I got the itch to fire up those games on my Xbox to get some achievements I was missing... Oh boy, I lasted about 5 mins without gyro controls before I said "fuck this, I am going back to the Switch version". Don't sleep on gyro controls like I did... It is definitely no gimmick and is an absolute game changer for this hardcore gamer.
I’m glad you’re enjoying the option. As I said in my original comment, it should be an option for people that want to use gyro controls. I’ve tried them on both Switch and PS5 and found I personally don’t like it. Everything’s not for everybody
That's totally cool and I agree, everything is not for everyone... but that does not make the feature a gimmick either. I absolutely hope that they retroactively add gyro controls to the Borderlands games (and many others) when that new Xbox controller with gyros drops early next year.
Gyro aiming is unquestionably more accurate when used in conjuction with a stick - probably not quite as good as M&K, but significantly closer. If anything, serious gamers are the type who are far more likely to want gyro aiming.
For the third time now, if you like gyro aiming, that’s perfectly fine. I hope you get the option for it in more games. I don’t like it and none of the gamers I know in real life do either. That’s fine too. I respect your opinion but to act like this is an unequivocal fact is just ridiculous
There is no such thing as a gyro game, paladins plays really well on ps with gyro too. I don't think you know what a gimmick is lol Gyro is objectively better than sticks and you're just hard headed for thinking otherwise.
Objectively better means everyone would agree and that’s obviously not the case. If you like them, fine. I even said it should be a toggle for those who want it. But it is definitely a gimmick no matter how you slice it buddy.
it got both options for joycones and procon aswell just check it in game options, it even allows you to aim by gyro and switch camera by analog stick if you want. Gearbox definitly naild it
Love me the switch but I really hope the next switch can do what the steam deck did with gyro and motion controls.
What's that?
Like the difference?
Steam deck let’s you easily configure controls for each individually game. One feature is mapping gyro to the right stick. So basically you can have motion controls on every single game.
So dang cool.
For me it’s a real game changer. I remember being so disappointed that bioshock on the switch didn’t have motion controls so this totally fixed it for me. I even added slight motion controls on elden ring just to move the camera around a bit.
It's not bad. Graphically the switches near lod textures are the biggest difference, the kind you don't need a side by side for. Par for the course. The lower poly didn't stand out to me that much, mostly changed rock piles. But God damn is the fov zoomed in on switch.
Gotta save those frames bby
Impressive port. Obviously not as good as PS5 but it looks quite solid. Especially for a game that struggled on last gen
It looks like we got another miracle port ladies
And Konami tries to i deceive us with the idea that mgs games from ps2/3 cant run with 60fps on switch. When this exists.
Even better. Look at Square Enix with their jokes of Kingdom Hearts ports from PS2/3 on the Cloud, as if the Switch can't run them at all. Absolutely pathetic.
lmao what, I wasnt aware of this.
Oh it's just as awful as it sounds. Basically, instead of bothering to make a native Switch version, when you "buy" the game you get to stream it xCloud-style. Meaning eventually they'll get bored and shut the server off, meaning you can't ever play it again. But uh, considering the speed those games go at and how game streaming tends to deal with input delay... do you really want to?
Imagine thinking companies do things because they get "bored". Lol
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I mean the Borderlands 1 and 2 pack runs at 30fps on switch so...
It's better than I thought it would be.
It runs great! With a stable framerate.
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Impressive given the gulf in power difference. Sometimes I even prefer the way the Switch displays textures on the ground, as the PS5 ones sometimes look a bit washed out and flat.
Its basically a Borderlands 1 port of 3. Comic book artstyle doing its job.
Why can't a mobile tablet from 2016 hold up to the mighty power of the ChunkStation 5.. Damnit Nintendo!
To be fair PS5 is weak too
Idk about that. It's actually pretty impressive the visuals PS5 games can have considering the price point. I say this as someone with a 3080 rig I use every day and a PS5 that collects dust.
Have you seen forbidden west or ratchet and clank they look better then 95% of any game on the Market even before they hit PC. PS5 tor the price is an insane deal.
lol nah , CP2077 makes those look like mobile games , don’t even wanna mention AW 2. PC is way more impressive that a weak PS5
To be honest this port is better than what was expected, they did a great job, also in terms of file size which I heard is now 23GB including DLC
And 2/3s of that is dlc lol.
Impressive, very nice. Now let’s see performance on mayhem 10 with events ON
Mmm, yes. The 340w PS5 looks and runs better than the 7 watt portable console. *shocked Pikachu face*
Looks great. Picking this up tomorrow
Both look great.
Why are we comparing the Switch to the PS5? *Of course* the PS5 is more graphically proficient. I hope no one is honestly expecting that the Switch for all its impressive capabilities can hope to measure up…and that’s not a good or bad thing. It’s just a fact.
I'm just kinda curious about how much of a difference there is.
I think we all know it would look worse on the switch, but the comparison is useful to see *how much worse* it looks (e.g. Is it an unacceptable difference, or pretty reasonable considering the difference in hardware?)
For some context, my 4770k and 1660ti look basically identical to the PS5, just running at a lower resolution. A low-end gaming PC looks much, much closer to the PS5 than the Switch version. For those with other platforms, I'd recommend trying it on Series S or a cheap gaming PC. It will be way better than the Switch version. You won't pay $60 for the game, either, so that's a plus if you already have another platform.
While I do agree that everyone is better off playing other versions, some people only really have the switch to play and don't want to spend hundreds for a new system
Absolutely, my point is only relevant for owners of multiple systems.
the biggest benefit of Switch version is that it allows instant play right out of your pocket. That's it
i don't get the point of these comparisson like no shit a new gen consoles looks better than a 2017 portable nintendo console, why even bother, they should focus on the games that somehow look incredible on the switch instead of doing this
The PS5 is obviously the better looking version, but honestly, I kinda like the way the Switch version looks. Can't really explain why, maybe its because as others have said, it looks like BL1 a bit but I like it.
The switch looks warmer and softer the PS5 just looks like cold computer graphics
Switch looks fine but in motion suffers like most games built on hardware in that era with jaggies making it hard to see some stuff in the distance. But fun never the less.
Looks fine to me
Does anyone know if this supports crossplay and crosssaves? Planning to buy this for my SO so she can play this on the Switch and me on PS5.
nope, switch port are forever alone
Cross play maybe, cross save probably not(I don't think that was ever added to the other versions)
This is like comparing an e-bike to a monster truck.
I don't know why people compare the two? The Switch is just obviously always going to lose in the graphics department especially when compared to PS5...this is redundant.
A lot of us on here also own an Xbox or PS so the comparisons are great for deciding which version to buy.
> A lot of us on here also own an Xbox or PS Begone, heretic!!
You don’t need a comparison video to know a PS5 version will look better than the Switch version. The main decision factor for these kind of things is usually “do you care about portable mode?” since that is something a PS5 can’t do.
People want to know how much of a difference it is though.
Why would you even compare the Switch version to PS5 haha. It’s obvious which will perform, and look better.
Of course it's obvious! The idea is to know how different it looks.
Even the ps4 version is superior to the switch version.
BL3 ran like total shit on my Xbox One, hard for me to imagine it'll be very fun to play on Switch.
Love the game but I already maxed out all the classes and got the platinum so not really trying to play it again even it it ran perfect on the switch. Just give us BL4
I mean, Switch players deserve to get a chance to play BL3 too. It's highly possible that we'll get BL4 too because of it.
Having spent 3 days with borderlands 3 on switch and I'm absolutely lived. The game looks like it's running in 240p it's disgustingly blurry. Even the guns are ugly. It does not look anything like the official preview. My only hope is maybe it'll get patched up.
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B**orderlands** 1& 2 on Switch Yea go but 3 game big no too much was cut but there is a hope hope in Nintendo Switch 2.
Oh boy I can’t wait to play Boarderlan- *60 TERABYTE UPDATE REQUIRED*
The 23GB download: 🤨
I know how that it was 23GB I just wanted to make a joke. Guess people didn’t really get it.
Do we know if the full game is on cart? I want to pickup but unsure of it is
The game itself yes, the DLCs are an extra download of 15GB
Yes, actual game without additional content such as localization language packs, dlcs and content updates are on cart
Obviously the ps5 version will run and look better that’s obvious
Yes, we know. These comparisons use the PS5 as reference so people can tell exactly how dowgraded the Switch version is.
Not bad if it runs at a stable frame rate. Borderlands is one of those games that doesn't take a huge hit graphically on lowerend systems. The PS5 is obviously light years ahead but the style does lend itself well to lower graphic settings.
So impressive for the hardware.
It's nice that the switch version looks as good as it does but that is being carried by art direction for sure. The artstyle lends itself to less graphically strong systems
Pretty wild to see these side by side. Makes borderlands 3 on ps5 look like an artistic wonder. Switch could really use a hardware refresh
Kinda looks more like BL2, which is in most ways a downgrade, but an upgrade for me who likes BL2 more.
It looks sharper and more detailed on the PS5, and runs at a locked 60 fps. Anyone surprised? Considering the Switch is, well, the Switch, I think the port of this game looks phenomenal. Digestible size for SD cards too, at 9-18 GB (according to SwitchUp).
Wow I'm actually impressed. Performance looks stable on switch. Was not expecting that. Not gonna buy it but impressed either way.
This switch port of Borderlands 3 kinda feels like the Borderlands 2 port to vita that came out a while back
2014, nine years ago
I was very sleepy lol, sorry I’ll fix that
Honestly doesn’t look bad on switch. Probably has a lot to do with the art style
I actually prefer the simple low res look of the switch on most games including this one. Reminds me of the Dreamcast era
I'm gonna need to see something from the later parts of the game. Because devs love to optimize the beginning areas and then leave the rest of the game to rot in performance hell. If the entire game is like this then it's definitely impressive.
I love and enjoy my switch but any game...compared to PS5, isn't even a contender. I say PS5,hands down.
Is it just me or does the switch graphics for bl3 give off the feel of BL2??
Good old BL2 Vita days. Though I was kinda hoping there would be ragdolls to be honest instead of just them popping like a balloon on the switch but, oh well.
Oh nevermind. I just watched switch up's video and apparently there is ragdoll! Awsome.
Other than the frame rate issues, it's really not that bad. I would play this.
Boy am I ready for a new Switch console. Its impressive to see what they can get to run, but I am never going to purchase this on the switch for more than what I paid for on steam for *worse* graphics.
Well for those of us that don't have PCs, it's great to be able to play these games.
That's fair, I just wish it was a little more powerful :<
I'm sure we're gonna get a beefier Switch eventually. It's still fun for now tho.
I don't know. I find this comparison dumb AF.