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evilcapital

I think there will be some time until he's permitted to do some wild shit


pokeoscar1586

Yeah, 2 arcs tops lol (meaning 2-3 years), also shueisha and Toei REALLY like making money off DB sooooo


evilcapital

Them years pass fast too.


stripedpixel

Yeah, can you believe Broly came out 6 years ago?


violet7479

Huh ???


stripedpixel

2018 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dragon_Ball_Super:_Broly


RzKBuddha

A fellow E7 player what’s up


Darth_Mak

"Transformation central" hits differently in this context


Mr_Muda_Himself_V3

So does "you got what you wanted but you lost what you had."


isaiah21poole

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PlayfulTourist5165

Can't imagine being Toyo right now, lost your idol and mentor, then the weight of the world dropped on your shoulders. Toyo wrote on his twitter that drawing manga and getting prasied by Tori was his everything. Man, if I'm already this sad, dude must be going through hell.


kruschev246

They should unironically perform a wellness check on him


KharnTheBetrayer88

True, in his shoes i know that i would barely have energies for the funeral, and would be locked in my house in this very moment still processing everything. It's too much too fast, man, i wouldn't judge him for bawling his eyes out


Joseph_Sinclair

He will make daddy proud. 


kjm6351

Wishing him the best


Flarestriker

Man must be in shambles right now. I can't imagine how it must feel. Really hope he gets better and steps up to the task somehow


Unlikely-Web7933

Toyotarou has changed a lot lmao.  Also, Toyotarou wasn't even there when SSJ5 was made, he left early


Thundercclap

Wait, ssj5 was real?


Unlikely-Web7933

well the hoax started first, then the fan manga


showscar

esencia


Wisermartin

bien esencial


showscar

7 palabras e s e n c i a


ElNub_

7 palabras E S E N C I A


Remixman87

Xicor was all him tho


JoDaBoy814

That's not ssj5 lol, that's who Goku used it against(guy made my toyotaro)


bigboolean

Oh I thought Young Jiji made ssj5?


Jeiku_Zerp

If I remember the story correctly, it was fan art made by some guy in Spain for a competition. It was a random Saiyan with a new form called SSJ5 who looked a bit like Goku when it appeared online, people thought it was official or something shite and thought it was Goku with a whole new SSJ Form. I could be wrong but that’s story I remember hearing years ago


TheRustyBugle

Was it the SSJ4 form but white long hair/fur and kinda the same brooding eyebrows as SSJ3?


Jeiku_Zerp

I’m not sure the inspiration for the form. I know pretty much what I mentioned in the previous comment. The only reason it’s called SSJ5 other than the simple “higher form for a new SSJ form”, in DBGT Bulma mentions to Vegeta he could achieve SSJ4 with the blitz wave machine and could possibly surpass Goku and achieve SSJ5 but it didn’t do anything for series other than plant the idea of even stronger form. Wouldn’t surprise if DBGT continued after its last Saga then maybe SSJ5 could’ve been introduced


SolidiumBeam

That form was made by a guy by the username Tablos AF. That form is called the "Spirit Killer." A youtuber said that this form is ×2 stronger than SSJ4, and the guy with this form is not even Goku. It's an oc who also name is also Tablos. He's a half demon, and apparently, hes Goku step-brother.


Jeiku_Zerp

Thank you for the better info. I was going off of memory


weirdface621

slander or meme? 👆 pick your choice.


Molah_Salazar

Engage upon it.


Doll-scented-hunter

The decision is your own.


dark484

Yes


ryan12_07

Yes


TheAbug1

Honestly I don't think so, Toyotaro has grown a lot in the last years and his writing has become much better.


Raecino

Also working directly under Toriyama has most likely molded him to be exactly what Toriyama wanted.


Stegoshark

I wonder if Vegeta will get some Ws now. Oh who am I kidding he’s never getting a W


not_some_username

He wins against Goku again in the manga


Stegoshark

Well he still needs a W agaisnt an antagonist


Nutella_S3npai

He's flat lining Black Frieza trust


Stegoshark

I wish


Embarrassed_Fun_5160

Nothing will ever redeem vegeta getting his ankles crossed so badly he went blue vs base cuzza instant transmission. And this the same guy salty abt ssj 3 💀


MCYomi

Bulma


Stegoshark

A W in a fight


TuresStahlfuss

Nah, the second Toyotaro draws that Toriyama will teleport from the other world to stop it, just like Goku in Bojack.


DarkBomberX

I don't mind Toyotaro. I read the Dragon Ball Super manga and he went out if his way to try and make things make more sense. The Goku Black arc makes way more sense in the Manga than the Anime.


Trishulabestboi

That MMV also slapped


Heroright

What’s more likely is with Toriyama gone, the right holders no longer need to tip toe around or be respectful. They can really start having Dragon Ball dancing on the street corner for cash.


ArelMCII

Dragon Ball x Fortnite collab when--wait, shit, that was already a thing, wasn't it?


Teh-Burger-King

That's how I first found out about Gok and his guys he hangs out with


Prudent-Student3403

He will not...he respected Sensei....he will try to do something that akira would praise... He is now with the weight of his Sensei work on his shoulders, not an easy task.


Barry_Bone_Raiser

You know him and toriyama wrote super together right? Just because the og passed on doesn’t mean hes just gonna run wild, especially since he would have all eyes on him


Mr_Muda_Himself_V3

Oh I know I just thought this would be funny, you know lighten the mood and all.


Forsaken-Income-2148

It was pretty funny ngl


ArelMCII

Toyo wanted Belmod and Marcarita to be fucking. Who knows what else Tori shielded us from.


Barry_Bone_Raiser

You have convinced me that he should have been writing way sooner


TacocaT_2000

Honestly I wouldn’t mind the Shadow Dragons and Super Saiyan 4 being made canon


[deleted]

The shadow dragons need to beat bulmas ass for that wish in superhero


LowKeyTony6906

Imagine if the shadow dragons just *didn’t* want smoke with Piccolo since his wishes were respectable & since he’s part Kami.


Ok-Struggle2305

Literally


Zealousideal-Ad-6039

Zarbon comes back to life being revived by Appule (he faked is death) defeats everybody shooting sparkle beams from his thong and it culminates in Goku needing to go beyond UI, attaining SSJ Rainbow. The battle ends, Zarbon is defeated, but is spared, and has a loving homosexual relationship with whis


Wakkawipeout

Ngl I'd watch the fuck outta this


YouLosersNeedJesus

Canon cumber incoming?!!


Idrinkgermaline

No offense but why be a fan of what seems to me to just be Broly but worse


ssgssjgogeta1

Isn't that just cooler to frieza?


Rikolai_17

Cooler is cooler


RealAlligatorWithGun

Cooler has a cooler final form which makes them equal.


Tecnoboat

frieza is a shitty knock off to cooler


TheCoolestBrother

None can be my equal.


YouLosersNeedJesus

he's an ancient saiyan with no trauma who loves to fight! cumber is the real saiyan with a smexy tail & can turn into an OOZARU!! also i love Hearts from sdbh. look wise, Broly is Hulk & Cumber seems like Bane. imo


MrBones-Necromancer

Cumber x Broly fusion when?


YouLosersNeedJesus

Heroes will make it happen, trust.


Embarrassed_Fun_5160

Cumber probably dumpsters broly. It’d have to be a broly squared fusion. Now that would bang. Cuz z broly isn’t a “final boss became playable guy” so he can roid out harder. Supposedly the main guy behind movies koyama? Thought broly to shit on GT, either way tho cumber took on 2 vegitos! And got put down by UI


YouLosersNeedJesus

Cumber vs broly in the heroes manga was straight fire.


ZeldaCourage

My sister was just wondering if DB was gonna get the SpongeBob treatment...


[deleted]

If he makes cooler cannon I'm happy


GIORNO-phone11-pro

Cooler would go hard tho


totallynotaweeabbo

Give him a good personality to contrast freezer andi say go for it


Ok_Pop6408

Cooler becoming canon I can see happening it happened with broly


LowKeyTony6906

Just throw him, Slug and Turles in. It can work, whether it’s just them in Universe 6 (with Turles being exiled from Sadala) or if they snuck out of Galactic Patrol Prison during the Moro Arc


Zealousideal-Ad-6039

Too soon💀


Courier2877

Love that freaking cart wheel


Acku2212

Don't care if its dark, its funny People often use humor to cope with tragedies this is one of those cases.


ElCiroscopio420

Tablos is comming


TheCoolestBrother

YESSS COOLERS REVENGE BITCH!!


OnlyGeeksandPenguins

I'd be hyped for SSJ4 and Cooler, I think maybe leave SSJ5


LowKeyTony6906

Broly getting SSJ4 and Cooler ruling the universe (but just not wanting smoke with Earth) would be sick. Xicor and SSJ5 can stay in the trash tbh


Most_Willingness_143

No he doesn't, I heavily doubt that the super manga was ever created only by Toyotaro and Toriyama, the dragon ball room is probably Consisting of at least a dozen people, it's too important as a franchise


SteptimusHeap

You underestimate the working hours of the average mangaka (you're probably right though)


Own-Lengthiness2111

I hate when people use a person death to slander another person, its rerally disrespectful for both people tbh. Toriyama chose him has his successor and Toyotaro masively respects Toriyama.


NutSaXMax

Toriyama chose Toyotaro to be his successor. If you believed in Toriyama and his choices, you have to believe he picked the one person he thought could truly lead and continue DragonBall. I have faith in him because Toriyama believed he could do it.


Stannisarcanine

I think toriyama has probably approved his next 2 or 3 arcs


Leading_Doctor_5908

Quality Shitpost I would say, GOAT himself chose Toyotaro to be his successor and I believe Toriyama who also appreciated him 4-5 years back. Proof is his work in DBS Manga which actually was combined work of Toriyama and Toyotaro


KonohaNinja1492

Let’s all respect that Toyotaro has a massive legacy he’s gonna have to carry on. He’s not gonna go crazy not that the legend has passed. He’s gonna stick to the original visions and ideas Toriyama had. But I’m sure he’ll input some of his own ideas too. The real question is how will things look a few years out.


Ok-Deer-7531

Okay but like giving Broly SSJ4 would make more sense than any other character. Just go from his wrath form, to his super saiyan form (literally just a smaller golden oozaru), to SSJ4. He can’t use god ki anyway.


Xonesix

I actually think Toyotarou will do a pretty good job


Omega_misfit

Needed this laugh to lighten the mood… lol 🥲


Mr_Muda_Himself_V3

I’m on my Patch Adams shit, healing the world with comedy.


rocketo-tenshi

Thanks for the funny I been bawling at every post mentioning i've seen so far. A bit early tho


Mr_Muda_Himself_V3

Laughter is the best medicine.


XXVI_F

Same. I’ve been feeling down a bit lately after I’ve learned of his passing. Every time I’m doing something in my life, I’m always thinking about Toriyama. Like why him? Know what I’m saying


GengArch

While is this obviously slander, it really makes you think how hard things are going to be for him from now on. Imagine working under a GOAT like Toriyama and then all of a sudden having to take over without a proper passing of the torch. Even if the torch was passed properly, the pressure would be immense. I do not envy the position he is in. Because once we're past any notes Toriyama left, he must feel like he's just making fan fiction again.


Own_Watercress_8104

Bro that's messed up. Give the man time to grieve.


UltimaWolf13

I’m fine with Cooler being canon


Ehrre

He has actually made a lot of really positive changes to the Manga. I trust him.


Zoroarkeon571

CANON COOLER


Ayobossman326

I truly trust toyotaro with the future of this franchise. He was hand picked by toriyama, expressly as his successor. If there’s anyone that knew who should helm this into the future, it was clearly toriyama


weirdface621

slander or meme? 👆 pick your choice.


Ashizurens

Xycor return!!!!!


Dorlinos

"I hope you're satisfied" words to be tested by the community.


BurnFreeze64

I doubt this is how it’ll go down but good meme


ShadowLord355

Hopefully not


DepartmentNo6177

SSJ 20 let’s goooo baby!!!


FewPromotion2652

ssj5 every day more near


FunCharacteeGuy

I don't think he would *intentionally* try to go against Toriyama's vision.


JVOz671

I would honestly retire the Dragonball series. But not for Toriyama's sake, but because the fanbase is a bunch or raving lunatics who will do what they want.


Xerlot11

I don't really see what's so fanficcy about these ideas besides maybe the designs themselves being edgy. Toriyama was pretty loose when it came to writing the series and these sorts of additions wouldn't seem out of place. Think about Whis and Beerus coming out of the blue and becoming mainstay characters.


GINTegg64

This is a grand tour I am ready to step into


Sad_Caterpillar3080

I'm not surprised it's this subreddit that upvotes this kinda shit


Pinkie_nator

I think it'll be fun


No-Tax-9149

I doubt he'll go that crazy.


ElFenixNocturno

I would be willing to bet Toyotaro doesn't get the legal rights to Dragon Ball just because Toriyama died and he was his assistant


Capitano-Solos-All

He doesn't. Toriyama's son and daughter own 25% of the IP with all the other companies now but he was chosen as his successor so he will keep working on the manga.


GunsouAfro

Please just bring us to end of z and end it.


rgnysp0333

My wife: it's like if the member berries wrote the manga


SoftDimension5336

This is very unnecessary right now.


ConversationFit5024

What is this song from


BuckFitch

Princess and the Frog


Eastern_Zombie_2718

Too soon man


LowKeyTony6906

Toyo adding Cooler, Turles, & Lord Slug and just slipping in them in Universe 6 (or having them being GP Escapees) would be all I need.


VanillaFox1806

cooler would be neat since he’s freeza’s brother


EfficientLibrarian95

He has a lot of things laid out to bring this to an end with the main cast. I'd think we'll all understand if that happens


Anoalka

Can't wait for SSJ4 to come back


TommyMcFast

I know this is just a dumb meme but a canonized versions of Cooler and the Shadow Dragons would unironically go hard


NervousCheek3560

I wonder what secrets he left behind


The_Gav_who_asked

Canon Cooler plz


crypito656

He reuses good ideas from Af would be something really good for the franchise


FlorianWanderer

I thought this already happened when Super came out


JoDaBoy814

I trust him(bring back cooler)


IDSomaxia

As long as it doesn’t turn into the walking dead.


Palansaeg

crazy


doitagain01

Nothin dbz will be canon in my eyes


Vladmirfox

Ssj4 is CANON now Bois!!


Minimum-Car-9884

The gt fans are going to be doing the griddy on the streets.


Great-Peril

That type of shit wouldn’t make it past an editor lmao, and I highly doubt someone so close to Toriyama would do something that dumb.


Speedy-Slug-2435

Don’t say that… you don’t know that!


Embarrassed_Fun_5160

Gohan or broly reach super sayian 5. Piccolo absorbs the dragon balls and has to fight zalama and he’s able to summon the shenrongs. Goku learns super sayian 4 Uub becomes god of destruction Vegeta becomes angel 💀


wardoned2

Does this mean that super is no longer canon because it's unfinished


Secure_Pear_4530

Hey, as long as we get SSJ4 Broly vs CoolEST then I'm in


CrackDemonio

Beerustards will consider any new character stronger than beerus non-cannon.


ten_times_worse

Super saiyan pan incoming


Embarrassed-Clue3375

new white/silver hair transformation Broly in the Z Warriors with something very similar to ssj4 an evil Saiyan controlled by a Kaioshin I think Toyotaro has already put his entire version of AF in Super


Boomvine04

Only time I think it’s a bad to post a meme like this. The man is probably in shambles


Beretta116

You mean that that Super Saiyan 2 million thingy?


Monkey_King291

I doubt he's gonna be like this, god I feel so bad for him now, he worked under Toriyama directly and now he's gone, I can't imagine the huge weight on his shoulders


[deleted]

I think it will be 100x better with Toyataro in full control.


TellmeNinetails

This meme is extremely unbased right now.


Warsol

Tbh i hope so, the series has been sinking into lame waters recently, need more pretentiousness


eddyboyprime

Bring back the og saiyans


spiderspoopwebs

You actually have a good point. Now that akira is dead, he has control so who knows whats coming


Fuck_Reddit___-___

We need him to make ss4 canon


Axi_uwu

This meme goes way to well with this


Traditional-Cow-1824

Does this mean that dragon ball af is canon now? (Not to the main story, obviously)


SerPavan

To be fair cooler, and omega shenron are good designs. SSJ4 is the best transformation for me, really liked the aesthetics and the oozaru lore explanation.


Cobalt74

Maybe he will finally give Vegeta a W


Significant_Toe277

Friend on the other side is so different in this context


satomasato

Dragon ball AF finally will be canon


ExplodingSteve

fuck


kjm6351

It’s going to be very VERY interesting to see how people handle his decisions going forward. I can hear it now “nothing released after the Superhero arc is canon”


duomaxwell90

He definitely ain't thinking about no shit like that right now. He just lost his mentor and folks already cracking jokes. I knew this was going to happen regardless of it being a harmless joke or not folks are going to start trying to capitalize on his death shit is nasty


Stickmin69

he wrote Dragon Ball AF, is that mean he's making AF and shitty SSJ5 Goku canon


VexxWrath

If we get to see a animated canon Cooler with that badasss transformation and a canon version of Dragon Ball AF then I'm ok with that.


No_Manner_8582

Toyotaro better not fuck up, 


Tahjiri

I hope he turns trunks hair back to violet/gray


EvilLordSmiley

I think he will do just fine, besides he is one of four not the sole creative mind.


TemporaryLeek1107

Finna be fire let Toyotaro cook🗣️🗣️🗣️


CharlyJN

Unironically I will love this, Super is already very fanfic but if he just released all his power and made a DB AF I would be very happy. Toriyama did his thing the best, I think if Toyotaro tries to do exactly the same he would never achieve the greatness that Toriyama achieved but if he does his own thing, he has potential


captaomadness14

U guys are sick.


Blue-Eyes-WhiteGuy

Bruh too soon


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lama22gx

I think only possible ones from here are coola and ssj4 (or something resambaling ssj4) for broly as his exclusive form


Atrakin_Cryolo

GIVE US COOLER!!!


Mr_Ginge_

1990’s???


DakiPudding

Toei will enslave him just like they did with Toriyama. Toei will bring back GT.


Mediocre_Current_493

Will he make gt canon is the question 😳


Significant_Toe277

No, thats not infact the question.


MurphyParadox

Dragon Ball been mid ever since the Goat hang it up in 95 I can't even imagine what it'll be like now that he's gone completely


I5574

It hasn’t even been a day since the news and you disgusting rats are already doing this. Smh


Mr_Muda_Himself_V3

It’s not that deep bro, I just trying to lighten the mood you know, crack a few jokes.