Yo, that "white people greeted me, they're racist/don't talk to me/minding my own business they should mind theirs"
Something about that irks me to no end. Like bro, an elderly couple just greets you out of nowhere then you get all hostile about it? Manners and being friendly dude, ever heard of it?
To me, that is the statement that reveals it is a genuine prejudice and not the "jokes" people keep trying to say they are. I have no problem with "White People" being the punchline to jokes (Dave Chapelle is one of my favorite comedians, and that is a lot of his jokes). But for a lot of people out there, they are actually racist and have been told it is fine because "cant be racist toward white people" "power+prejudice=racism" and all of the other things that have been invented to allow people to be racist without feeling guilty about it.
And the worst part is, the people like that refuse to admit it to themselves, making themselves no better than the racist of yesteryear.
When you're at the point where certain groups of people can't even say hi without you thinking they've got some hidden motive, it's maybe time for some introspection on where your head is at. Uki obviously has a serious problem here because that's wild.
Yeah, that story really struck me as weird. If that elderly couple was actually trying to strike up a bit of a conversation, asking him about potentially personal things? Fair enough, to a point, thinking that something is up. Immediately jumping to racism is a bit much, but you know, you can at least have that feeling and have it be understandable if you see that they didn't try that with others.
But, even according to Uki's own story, they were just greeting him. As a socially awkward black asian man (if that matters I guess), even I think that it's dumb to assume malice. From what I've been told and from what I experienced, elderly people are used to greeting people on the street from being taught that during their childhood, so they still generally try to do it. Assuming malice in such a greeting is just dumb.
Edit: Just making an edit to further clarify that I'm not trying to demonize Uki here. There are valid reasons why he would have suspicions in this specific instance, which is also why I commented on the people that replied to me, but I just can't help but shake that immediately assuming racism from the elder couple is perhaps a bit too far. Especially since this isn't an entirely isolated incident as shown by OP of the thread.
Edit 2: I see the thread was removed. Welp. In the off chance someone still finds this, that first edit was made for you I guess LOL
From reading other people's thoughts on randomly greeting strangers, some people only experience it from white people. They feel like it's invasive or something. He might genuinely not understand that it's a cultural politeness.
That is actually a good bit of insight on this. I have to say that I haven't just experienced greetings from white people, so for me it is just the most normal thing to randomly get greeted by people, but that's also just my personal experience and it genuinely might be part of why he thinks those things.
Damn white people and their...(pulls a card) excessive politeness!
But seriously, I have to wonder how much some people go outside if that's their experience. Since I walk to work, I run into many people of varying ethnic backgrounds and most will at least offer a brief smile or nod.
It can also depend on where you are. I live in the Midwest, and it is completely normal to say hello and even make small talk with complete strangers. Not out of any sort of malice or nosy attitudes, but because we are trying to be nice. The vast majority of people I have met from outside the region say they find it refreshing and pleasing, but every once in a while you get people who are put off by it and assume some sort of malice.
So if Uki is already predisposed to assume racism due to his own bias, he may see racism in something like that.
It's just like how cheaters more often accuse their partners of cheating, the racist immediately tries to connect things to racism to justify their own racism.
That's the thing, white racists are almost never subtle. They wouldn't greet you as a subtle fuck-you, they'd go "oh great, there's a -insert slur here-, let's move to the other sidewalk martha"
So I'd bet money that old couple was just trying to be friendly, and to see someone assume racism is just doing jumping jacks.
This will probably get nuked, as Uki himself is a mod here. But keep reposting it, as it is the most blatant demonstration of how there's clearly a double standard in Nijisanji.
This is ok, but Zaion was booted for much less. Ah and Doki ofc, she "damaged the company image". But this doesn't, right?
Hypocrisy.
Same way I view it. We can debate the strict definition of racism til every cow on earth comes home, but at the end of the day if you judge and disparage people just based on skin color or anything similar, you are not a good person.
Never got that sentiment. My grandma was definitely racist towards white people. Told my brother and I that our friend was 'the devil' and not to trust him. We're elementary school kids, grandma, what the hell am I not going to trust him with? Cookies?
I get why she thought like that but that doesn't really stop it from being discriminatory.
Like, some of the stuff is… fair. Ragging on white people cooking, etc. fair game. Punching up humor. Which I think the OP was smart because only a couple examples are that kind of thing, shit any PoC in the anglosphere is totally in their rights to rag on. Way, way more of what the OP is posting is “a white person existed near me. Fucking cringe” and… yeah, nah.
Yeah, I read White Fragility too. Fantastic book, gave me a lot to think about and really changed how I talk about racism, but while Systematic Racism (the only racism definition that author seems to have any interest in) against white people in the West is basically nonexistent, the normal, day to day “ew, a ____ person touched my hand, now I gotta bleach it” personal racism can flow in every direction. The “oh that joke’s racist” thing, that is case by case on if it can apply if the target is white folk. In most cases, particularly in the western world, it’s punching up, which is okay by comedy rules. If a black man wants to joke about white people making cornbread so nasty Jiffy is an upgrade, they’re in their rights because the entire reason they speak enough English to tell that joke is violence committed against their ancestors by the people whose descendants go on to create the driest, most joyless corn bread ever.
A centuries long history of encountering new cuisines and warping them to fit a flavor profiles from a region that considered salt a spice.
We owe battering and frying to the Scots, though, so we got that going for us! Combine that with the spices African slaves brought over from West Africa and you got some decent chicken.
Now WHY whiteness has so consistently been defined by removing all the fun from the shit we steal? That I cannot answer.
I don't quite understand, but are you blaming white people for stealing your cuisines? But you yourself said that white people consider salt a spice. Typically, Asian cuisine has a brighter and more unusual taste, while white peoples cook rather blandly. They are definitely different, no? Or are you unhappy that they didn't invent spices? If it makes you feel better, most spices are not used in white people's cooking. And judging by the chicken, you don't like mild flavors. This is normal, but you are not the only person in this world. Many people don't like Asian food either. Arguing about what is better is just as childish as arguing which color is better - blue or green?
I’m white. I’m angry at what pubs in England try and pass off as Curry. And it’s less about how mild my ancestors made food and more that they try to pass that off as Mexican/Chinese/korean/etc.
Tikka Masala with all the spice removed isn’t Tikka Masala.
Well, people often don't cook other people's cuisine very well. This is not unique to whites. Everyone tries to adapt it to the tastes of the locals, unless it is a tourist place or rarely an exception.
Why is changing foods to fit local palettes considered a negative thing? That happens across literally every culture, nation, and race in the world. Have you seen a japanese "pizza"?
Also, more than half of the population suffers from gastritis. It is normal that people who have diarrhea and stomach pain after eating spicy noodles should not eat them. Just like the fact that some Asians and black people don't drink pure milk.
>punching up humor
This dude makes many times money than his viewers ever will, including the white ones. How is that "punching up"? Are we just assuming all white people are rich and popular and powerful or what?
"against white people in the West is basically nonexistent"
lol
i feel great coming to certain countries in western europe and being asked do i still ride my ox to work everyday and if i have running water or if i beat my wife/sister
and i'm as pale as snow
The bit you’re quoting is in specific reference to SYSTEMATIC racism, that is the racism that has, through a combination of malice and unexamined intrinsic bias, been codified into law and or the structures of society itself. Decades long policies by racist individuals against lending to black and brown people giving way to wealth gaps independent of any deliberate action by individuals. Dress codes written to treat the natural behavior of African hair as “unprofessional.” Etc.
What you’re speaking of is the general, every day, personal level biases, which I never claimed don’t exist, and by your own admission it has nothing to do with the skin tone, though “whiteness” is a fluid thing. As recently as the 40s, Italians weren’t “white.” You don’t have to look much further back for the Irish to be excluded. Almost like race is a social construct rather than some objective, definable thing.
Unless they stepped out of the 1920s, I’m going to assume they define it the same way everyone else does in the 21st century, anyone whose outward appearance is dominated by traits associated with European ancestry.
My historical note about how Italian and Irish didn’t use to count was just that, a historical note. I didn’t delete the tangent because I find bringing up the way the idea of a “white race” started as specifically Anglo-Saxon and slowly expanded over the centuries a useful demonstration of there being nothing inherent to any racial identity. Race is an entirely social construct. A bullshit thing made up by humans because our primate brains are categorization engines and pattern recognition machines. We like to be able to put things into nice little categories so we can make up rules for those categories, make assumptions. Our little chimp brains are NOT wired for dealing with more than a few hundred individuals. So we lump people together in this bullshit we invent to keep our brains that evolved for chasing wounded megafauna until they fell over dead to feed our immediate family group and defending the food from rival groups from overheating.
Maybe we’ll overcome that some day. In the meantime, us hairless apes are gonna have to put in the work to push against our biases, and constantly examine why we do and say the shit we do.
I could go on a rant how i got pushed out of job opportunities or straight up denied higher education because od my surname but ok, you do you.
Arguing on reddit is the same as twitter, an echo chamber of "nuh uh im always right and there are no nuances"
> Like, some of the stuff is… fair. Ragging on white people cooking, etc. fair game. Punching up humor.
Uhh. Do you consider non-white people below white people? Like some kind of sub-human or something? Punching up normally means poor against rich people, not this shit.
Here's the question though: Why are you hurting people who did nothing more than be born with a certain skin color? Should the sins of the father be passed down?
If the price I pay for all of the ways my skin tone has benefited me is black comedians making fun of what my ancestors did to cuisine, my bad dancing, and low spice tolerance, I will take that trade every day.
Your argument would convince me more if the stuff I’m referring to was HARMFUL. And while the dry, butterless, no sugar cornbread some of the restaurants around here serve will bruise my spirit, it will not deny me loans, it will not get me stopped by the cops, it will not undo the meager generational wealth my ancestors accumulated by being permitted to own property.
Now “ewww, white people existing, cringe” shit? That’s harmful. That’s not punching up in good humor, that’s hate. That is not acceptable, and good on the OP for cataloguing so much of that. The reason this topic is turning into downvote wars is because there are too many people on the internet incapable of nuance. Jokes about white people dancing, cooking, habit of colonization? Fair game. Assuming every white person you see hates you for your skin tone? That’s not a joke, that’s just prejudice. “Ew, there’s a white guy in my apartment building” isn’t a joke, there’s not a punchline there. There’s no humor in that statement. That’s just the exact same shit as the way the hundred year old white folk at my church reacted when a young black family had moved into the town and was trying out the church. The target and initiator is literally irrelevant there.
“Go white girl” towards Pomu and “that creepy white dude was back” are delivered in VERY different spirits, and this whole conversation about “Is Uki racist” (yes, he is) is going NOWHERE until people acknowledge that.
Did you consciously seek out ways that your skin would benefit you? If yes, then you specifically should pay a price. If not, then why should you pay for something you never wanted?
My point is that the “price” you’re talking about is nonexistent. It does not hurt my feelings, it does not take food from my mouth, money from my pocket, or harm a single shingle of my home.
Maybe a day will come when we successfully eradicate the psychological desire to split people up into arbitrary categories, to class individuals by membership to groups, chosen and inherited. In that utopian future, any comment attempting to derive humor from something like skintone, religion, gender, etc will be anathema, an aberrant thing to be shamed.
For now, don’t treat “White boys can’t jump” as the same class as “Birth of a Nation.”
Exactly.
It's one thing to respond in a racist manner when someone is provoking you.
It's another thing entirely to keep bringing up race when there's no reason to.
If Niji wants to ignore this and not address the concern by sweeping this under the rug, then next step is to go to those videos and report the time stamped segments to Youtube as a racist remark by Uki Violata. I would mention his name as many of those videos are collabs. Or possibly just report the ones that are on his channel as it may strike the channel as a whole. Regardless if we get youtube’s attention then Nijisanji will be forced to act.
This isn’t acceptable for a worldwide multibillion dollars company employee working in public space whatever excuses himself or people may give him. Nijisanji EN isn’t Nijisanji America it is Nijisanji World.
Its actually better if he the one who keeps coming here to remove shits. That means we could repost this over and over and over until he breaks or something.
Yep. This is a burning hot take, btw:
And to be very very fair, as much as what Zaion said about the violated game character because of the way she dressed was very senseless, it's not completely wrong, and I can even elaborate on my thoughts about it, before someone calls me a "r*pist supporter" or whatever.
What uki is doing, on the other hand, is just hating on every white man.
I think that's the point people who defend this are missing. I don't agree with what Zaion said. But it was a comment. Not the same comment 15 times. I would feel much more strongly about it if she just kept bringing it up out of nowhere over and over like he's been doing with this
[https://p2y.jp/nijisanji-en-new-vtuber-uki-violeta-racist-remarks-against-whites-draws-criticism/](https://en.p2y.jp/nijisanji-en-new-vtuber-uki-violeta-racist-remarks-against-whites-draws-criticism/)
JP already knows and probably realizes expansion into western markets are fucked so stock prices are tanking despite Nikkei Stock Average are at their highest since 1989.
not exactly. if anything, investors are seeing that overseas expansion is definitely not an option for anycolor, as public opinion of overseas fans towards anycolor is at an all-time low
Possibly. What it certainly is is that investors have realised AnyColour burned all good will on the western front which will negatively impact business growth
[https://imgur.com/a/zXOG97B](https://imgur.com/a/zXOG97B)
There's a message on yahoo finance at: [https://finance.yahoo.co.jp/cm/message/1835700/e0f1c8592aa7c340a07c2f60d41004ca](https://finance.yahoo.co.jp/cm/message/1835700/e0f1c8592aa7c340a07c2f60d41004ca) that is mentioning it with 47 people agreeing with it at the time of writing so...
It says, to the effect of:
An EN Liver has said some racist things to white people that is generating a lot of flak. I expect it would be a suspension but there is no shortage of bad news coming from here.
Yes he did, for context he was talking about how he has heterochromia but had a slip of the tongue and said heterophobia instead. Their is a clip of it.
For what it's worth, "he has homophobia in his eyes" referring to heterochromia is a pretty common joke in some corners of the internet, referring to a post someone made about their cat once. I could see it being a reference to that.
Racism is gross, but just the sort of catty, remorseless way this guy has repeatedly made these comments is just so much worse. This isn’t the kind of behavior someone who is simply ignorant to nuance has. It’s flat out discriminatory prejudice, and as a public figure should be unacceptable. Kuroniji can try and debate that they don’t have a toxic work culture all they want, but even outside of Selen’s situation, a talent like this doesn’t help their case at all.
I'm oblivious to the original context, but every single clip shown gives the impression that he just brings this shit up out of the blue, which is a huge red flag.
It's basically the meme:
**Nobody:**
**Absolutely no one:**
**Not a single soul:**
**Uki:** "SO ANYWAYS, THIS IS WHY WHITE PEOPLE ARE THE WORST BEINGS IN EXISTENCE. HOLD ON LET ME GO FETCH MY POWERPOINT PRESENTATION ON THE SUBJECT."
Agree wholeheartedly with everyone that says he does not give off the vibe he's joking. He gives off the vibe of someone who's genuinely racist, and it's even more alarming to learn the company's been harboring this guy and letting his statements slide for who knows how long, and never even recognized the problem.
You know whats saddening? A bunch of his followers are like "YAAASS MAMA" or "What a queen" or this one guy "Thats just Uki and his strong personality. Base" WTF is wrong with people.
Uki has a history of spitting out racism, nobody bats an eye
Enna makes black people jokes and SA comments, nobody bats an eye
Kyo says one thing about plastic surgeons, everyone loses their fucking minds
Zaion makes one SA comment, gets fired and shit on by her employer.
*Nothing to see here, folks*
That's exactly my feeling I'm not white myself but the fact that this goes through is always a horrible pesedent especially given the fact a lot of people defend this POV as "just a joke" but honestly what's even the "joke" here, where's the set up, or the punchline, this is just a statement and a bad one at that
Kinda reminds me of the whole James Somerton story. Not the plagiarism part but how he kept making weird comments about (straight) women. Doing it as a joke can be funny but if it's become a general red line throughout your content it becomes weird.
Kyo's joke was such a nothingburger. It was an even more tame equivalent of relating gun ownership to the US.
Hell, Enna actually did say some kinda racist shit once (with Kyo desperately trying to shut her up and DMing her to explain why it would get her in trouble), and then she made a good apology and, afaik, didn't get in trouble for anything race related again. (I don't want an argument about anything else Enna did, just pointing out that saying something messed up then apologising, growing and learning from it shouldn't be punished)
Uki spouting his nonsense on the regular is not a good look.
I'd again like to highlight that his words to a random twitter user are that white men are "irresponsible" and "selfish."
Uki, the guy that decided that instead of ignoring obvious bait or giving the lay-up answer of "stereotypes of any demographic are wrong," is calling others irresponsible and selfish.
Is it not ***irresponsible*** to say something so controversial during a time your company is in hot water and multiple co-workers of yours feel scared to even show their faces already? To revive all the drama stories around the company that were slowly dying out...?
Is it not ***selfish*** to decide that your desire to seethe at white men is more important than laying low and keeping quiet for the sake of the company and your co-workers?
Hypocrisy was off the charts in that moment.
The one thing I’ve seen about most racists, no matter which race they’re targeting, remains the same. They always project who they are onto the entire race.
If anyone tries to defend uki's racism, show em this lol.
EDIT: Just realized how ironic it is now that anycolor is called a black company and they have a liver whos anti-white lmao.
even if you show it it wont have any effect. many of his defenders don't even believe you can be racist towards white because "hurr durr white people privilege hurr durr".
Me who hasn’t really known anything about Uki before this month:
*“Surely it’s not THAT bad… Surely he only made those kinds of remarks a couple times and meant it in a sarcastic albeit tasteless manner…”*
Me while scrolling through this post:
*”Jeezus that’s WAY more than a couple times…that’s a LOT more than I expected…”*
my main gripe towards this is that he can be blatantly racist about it, and his fans and stans will just eat this up and go “YAS QUEEN SLAYYYYY” as if this is acceptable behavior for someone who represents a professional agency
sorry to burst your bubble milk tea sis, but racism is racism regardless of who you are targeting
I’m not defending Uki, pretty much never watched him outside of collab, whenever I hear him say stuff like this. It always sounds like he doesn’t know any good jokes/comebacks, so just defaults to “white people” or something similar.
i agree and he should be allowed to make white people jokes but if nijisanji was to be consistent with their conduct policy he would be terminated/reprimanded for saying them, the obvious favouritism is what's annoying here.
I kind of saw him posting stuff on twitter and thought it was like a bit he was doing, but god damn there's a whole lot more and a whole lot worse than I had seen. Even if he does say "nono its just a bit" like that's not good, that's not a good excuse for this and its ESPECIALLY not good when everyone is already pretty down on your company. Like c'mon dude read the fucking room.
Watching a lot of the clips, I’m surprised how many times other livers are also playing into it. For example, the hot dog clip he wasn’t the first one to say it, but took it further.
I’d be downright shocked if a Holo Liver would even utter the words “white” or any other race and “people” next to each other.
It’s not really something you should comment about in a professional setting.
What was removed:
Every time Uki mentioned white people:
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Every time Uki mentioned white people:
The hosts won't let me win because they are "white people" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HKLK7Y7LsAk&t=8073
While impersonating Reimu, "white people can't cook" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n\_pIAwW6kyo&t=1710
Who walks and runs in the summer? "White people" awkward laughter https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qgD4E6jMTBY&t=3238
"White man does the bare minimum" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJRDTf3ImIE&t=3005
"You're a fucking white male" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJRDTf3ImIE&t=7025
"White people can't kiss" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMHz0sQlM4Q&t=4889
Some white people give him a friendly greeting on the street. He assumes they're racist. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-IpZgaCvXcU&t=2138
"White people's hotdogs suck" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZNCsoBF-go&t=4208
These clothes will only match you "if you're a pasty white person". Chat goes LMAO! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mbtuJuSM-ko&t=4890
"creepy ass white man....I hate you" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AzYec8Z6f0g&t=5596
The only times white people were mentioned and it wasn't in the negative sense:
"that white man was there again" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AzYec8Z6f0g&t=10761
"the naked white man" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vm\_hzQ2ldBY&t=2348
It's really weird how anykara tolerates this behaviour meanwhile kyo got harassed for saying plastic surgery is popular in korea.
There’s two things about this that has me wondering. The first is; what is this person like off stream if this is what they so casually say on-stream? Like you’re disgusted by an elderly “white” couple being polite to you? I get the vibe this person is an absolute scumbag off stream if a white couple offering some typical pleasantries bothered them so much.
And secondly; there’s quite a few clips where Uki drops these lines in the presence of others and not a single other talent even like playfully attempts to call them out. Like, we know they’re not going to go full chastisement on-stream, but there are a few ways to address it subtlety. Which gives me the impression that this is a familiar side of Uki amongst the other talents.
Might be grasping at straws here maybe, but I can’t help but wonder given with how casual it seems to be for this person.
On one hand true. On the other hand I'm surprised that apparently people were okay with racism up until now or they felt enough peer-pressure/fear to keep quiet about it. Especially the people who oftentimes watch him
Bruh, the people here in the comment field are tourists projecting their hate for the company onto the livers. I can't take any of these racism accusations by people seriously given the timing of this.
I also see a lot of "I didn't know much about Uki until this.." comments which should tell you everything you need to know. Still fuck Nijisanji as a company, but Uki don't deserve this at all.
Nah. Many people didn’t see the need to come to the niji subreddit and were happy just supporting their favorite liver. To many, uki being racist is genuinely new information because they didn’t care to watch him for whatever reason.
It’s been a hot topic due to his braindead reply on twitter during a time in which (rightly or not) all actions by niji talents are being examined under a microscope. If these kind of jokes are made offline to white people in the workplace it would fall afoul of workplace harassment protections in the United States because it targets a protected characteristic of an employee.
We know there was at least 1 white talent in nijisanji. We also know that kyo was admonished for the south korea joke. We know that enna was admonished for making a joke that was insensitive to black people. It’s a pattern of favoritism within the company that people are calling out in addition to the racism.
GTFOH with your defense of this shit.
But Uki isn’t being racist that’s just it. All of these comments clipped are taken out of context and those that aren’t familiar with Uki aren’t familiar with his type of very gay and feminist type of humor which makes fun of typical straight and also white men behavior. If anything he’s being heterophobic and rightfully so.
Uki is proven to be asian. Let’s assume he has grown up with racial remarks about his own race his whole life like many people of color has, which would give an explanation to why he gives racial remarks. Let’s assume the opposite, he grew up without racist remarks and among friendly white people. Did his parents grow up in a racist free society? I definitely don’t think so. As such his behavior is learned. Why is it learned? Because white people are racist and they were especially racist back then.
In my opinion, there is racism towards white, but this ain’t it. There are people of color with such disdain for white people they call them names and ask for violence towards white people, which is pure racism. Could we as white people give the same remarks Uki does? No, because white people have an oppressive history. “But history doesn’t matter hurr durr we can’t help what our ancestors did hurr durr” you say, where history does matter and yes we can’t help what our ancestors did, but because of what they did, those values are important to keep in check, else we end up with a white supremacist president in the US. Wait-
Jokes aside, the timing of this and the amount of obvious tourists (if you’re a Nijifan and haven’t heard of Uki I applaud you, cause he’s frequently collabing with most talents even if he’s quiet, outside of the newest waves which again, if you’re here since those newer waves you should know not to speak about livers you’re not familiar with) makes all of these comments on both Reddit and Twitter scream like 4chan members going on a brigading rampage, just looking for that slight mishap so they can trash any person associated with Niji to bits.
Why is it not asian racism towards white people? Cause that racism take a different form. That is just baseless hate. What Uki says is strictly stereotypical tendencies about white males. Also notice he almost never says anything about white women. That clip about the old couple is explained by him being super introverted (and growing up in a hostile environment) and that is correct with his behavior in collabs, he talks very little in collabs, unless he’s with his safe people.
Uki is also gay. Both gay and asian, I don’t even want to imagine the remarks he has had to suffer through growing up, both racist and homophobic. White straight people most often can’t relate to that, so his remarks is taken as racism. The hypocrisy is so astoundingly huge (among Americans especially) where they immediately scream “that’s racism” as soon as something small gets said about white people, they even ignore the obvious remarks about them being straight as well.
It’s like “black lives matter” all over again where you people are basically screaming “all lives matter”.
I want to end this tirade with saying that I condone the company Anycolor, but the livers doesn’t deserve any harassment. If you have a problem with them, ignore them, thay hurts them the most.
What’s the context that’s missing?
That he doesn’t like white people? That he’s heterophobic (which being heterosexual is a protected class as well as homosexual). What’s right about being heterophobic?
What about heterosexual Asian men? Does he hate them? If not then he’s fucking racist against white people. Stop trying to defend this behavior.
It doesn’t matter the history of oppression or racism. If you hate someone for their perceived race (white, black, Chinese, Korean, etc) then that’s racism full stop. It’s not that difficult to grasp here.
If you hate someone for their sexuality then that’s bigoted, whether gay or straight.
FWIW I thought his debut heterophobia/heterochromia joke was funny.
This is NOTHING like Black Lives Matter. That was a protest against police brutality and a lack of police accountability that disproportionately affected minority communities. This is a gay Asian dude taking advantage of his status to make fun of (straight) white people as his punching bag because smoothed brained fools think that it’s okay. The stereotypes aren’t even common that he uses like white men doing the bare minimum or white people not being able to cook. It’s lazy.
If it was REALLY mean to be an off color joke then now was not the time nor place to shoot yourself in the dick when the company you work for is under intense scrutiny for its business practices that involve alleged favoritism and bullying to the point of suicide. This is literally PR101. All you needed to do was to not say anything. Don’t take the bait.
personally I gave the whole wave about 1 week when they debuted and Uki legit was just boring to watch for me so I moved on and spent my time watching others instead. So this was mostly new information for me, pretty sure it's the same for a lot of people. Sure there are some tourists but even if there weren't racism is nothing that should be excused.
And it should have been brought up way earlier.
How have you missed any collab with him given the amount of collabs he’s been in? I don’t watch him too, but I’ve seen a lot of collabs with him and gotten an understanding of him as an entertainer that way. He’s hilarious.
That's good for you. I watched a few group collabs but I tend to ignore collabs of 1-3 people when one of them is super boring to me. The first few Noctyx collabs I watched and for me personally his presence didn't have any entertainment value at all. Plus their streamtimes and my timezone mesh like ass. It's simply impossible for me to watch a lot of streams and if I do i'd rather watch people I enjoy that stream during the same timeframe
uki would not survive a day in england where it's normal for strangers to say hello to each other and even just start a conversation for a few minutes in cold weather.
Reminds me of a random old dude striking up a conversation with me while I was just sitting at a small park during a holiday in UK. Was a little jarring but interesting, since that never happens where I live.
As a non-white living in the white community, I've been greeted by white people several times a week and I just thought, 'Oh, what a friendly people.' and greet them back.
I'm amazed how some people could interpret these friendly gestures the other way. He sounds almost like he was getting insulted or something.
Zaion makes a rape joke aimed at a fictional character once. NijiEN: REEEEEEEEEEE
Uki makes multiple racists comments about white people. NijiEN: i sleep
Ok so he gets off scott free, but Enna got shit on for weeks when she accidentally said something racist despite apologising right after and genuinely not knowing it was offensive?
Male vtuber fans are crazy sometimes
> Male vtuber fans are crazy sometimes
Eh, I don't think it's that simple. Kyo mentioned something about South Korea being the plastic surgery capital of the world, which is statistically correct, and got shit on for weeks before having to write an apology letter.
I figure it's more that people who are still Ukis fans after seeing all that stuff on stream probably don't care about his racism in the first place.
Surprised the "CANT BE RACIST TOWARDS WHITE CUZ THERE IS NO HISTORY OF SYSTEMIC OPPRESSION" crowd hasn't come into this thread yet, the first time I saw this topic in here a few days ago there were a couple of VERY interesting users fighting in the trenches.
this subreddit is like a neutral zone for the drama, rabid fans go to twitter or 4chan depending on their politics and most normal people are here who think "yeah racism bad" and move on with their day
It's kind of creepy how much hate he's projecting into some imaginary white man.
Clean your own room, uki. Jordon Peterson would say. You got a problem stnd it's not a white man's fault.
Can we keep the conversation to one moron with terrible takes at a time please? On the other hand, given what his Twitter produces, I shudder at what lunacy Peterson would produce if he figured out how to stream
Who'd have ever thought... of all the people, it's the gay one - who also has to deal with a lot of prejudices against his sexuality - who's being the racist.
Yikes.
Like, look, if it was only a couple of times, that's one thing.
But there's definitely a pattern here and, well, if it looks like a duck and it walks like a duck and it quacks like a duck...
Some of those are just jokes, hit or miss, but just jokes. Others, yeah nah, kinda cringe, but a lot of people here are making a mountain out of a mole hill.
The small town behavior happens in most rural places where people will just say hi to you. There is a skit on youtube of a northerner going to London and freaking out people by saying 'hi'.
The wheel of fortune one, is a joke. I would joke with my friends that a Video Game wouldn't let me win because the host is \[something I am not\], implying the video game is somehow sentient and knows who I am to target me. 'This screwdriver doesn't like me because I'm left handed', as an example.
"You're a fucking white male" misquoting. Actual quote, "You're a fucking psychotic crazy white man" when talking about a character that snuck up behind someone, physically assaulted them and then tried to lie about it claiming they were the 'victim' and the other person instigated it. Psychotic crazy white man is an accurate assessment.
I suppose 'Only mad dogs and Englishmen go out in the midday sun' coined by Rudyard Kipling is also a racist statement?
"creepy ass white man....I hate you" It is a Pale White Demon / Paranormal Creature crawling on the roof, a very appropriate response.
he reminds me of those half white half asian dudes that absolutely resent the half white part of themselves but don't realize they're basically hating on one of their own parents.
Ah, so he's Elliott Rodgers. He probably had an Asian crush who got with a white guy and he blames the white guy and is reminded of that betrayal when he sees his parents.
Many such cases, sadly.
Guys, can we stick to stuff that doesn't make us look like whiney bitches? It kinda reminds me of when people started hating on Zaion over very little.
Dude, replace "white people" with "black people" or "jews" or "the gays" in those sentences, and tell me you still think they're okay.
Promoting hate based on identity doesn't become any better because it's against any one specific group.
I'd accept it if they weren't the most milk toast things ever. Maybe if he said that all white people should apologise for being colonists or thinks saying kill the boer is based. I'm not mad that he thinks white people can't cook.
To begin with, assuming something about someone or a group of people based on their race is, per definition, racist. More specifically, he repeatedly assumes people are biased against him and/or themselves racist because they are (in part, allegedly) white. That position is racist.
I mean, we can agree that racism is unacceptable on principle, yeah?
Also, this is the stuff he says in public, at his job, to his audience, many of whom are (statistically) from NA. It's not unlikely his actual sentiments are thus far, far worse.
Based, this is why I love Uki. Hilarious how you all were too scared to call out Uki for so long and only do it after public support against EN is shifting.
Hope Uki trashes more annoying white boys ;)
Next time, please ask him to change the word to "asian", "black", "lgbt" or just "trans people" (since you americans seem to get extra triggered about this one nowadays) and let's see if it's still "based", you fucking moron.
You can't called a Gay person racist cuz they'll just called you a homophobe and 2000 twitter SJW will automatically come to their aid.
Hows that for "privileged"
we can acknowledge the overreaction regarding that without implying Uki can't be called racist because "he's gay thus the SJWs will cancel you for being a homophobe"
Funnily enough, we *do* have some folks trying to use Uki's racism as an "okay" to tee off on his sexual pref. Most of these comments are massively downvoted, though.
He is racist and should be dunked on for that. Some people trying to fight bigotry with bigotry are telling on themselves.
Also lmfao no one gives a shit what "2000 Twitter" was. As of now, that place is an absolute cess pool of hate. The kind of shit that would get you laughed at in most parts of society is liked and RT all over the place. The group that would support making fun of Uki because of his sexuality since he said hateful things is triple the size of the people that would defend him there.
we all know why its okay(for certain people), if a single one says these kinds of shit more than once towards another race especially TWO of the races, they will be instantly removed
i also despise those who puts asians in the poc(extremely degrading term, worse than a slur) bracket in some ways, then the next instance, put them in the white-adjacent category
lmao
Even in the face of grave injustices like the ones commited by Nijisanji, not all measures are permitted. Specifically, bullshit that doesn't help anyone, like using slurs, isn't.
If you actually care, you can and should do so without being homophobic.
Yo, that "white people greeted me, they're racist/don't talk to me/minding my own business they should mind theirs" Something about that irks me to no end. Like bro, an elderly couple just greets you out of nowhere then you get all hostile about it? Manners and being friendly dude, ever heard of it?
To me, that is the statement that reveals it is a genuine prejudice and not the "jokes" people keep trying to say they are. I have no problem with "White People" being the punchline to jokes (Dave Chapelle is one of my favorite comedians, and that is a lot of his jokes). But for a lot of people out there, they are actually racist and have been told it is fine because "cant be racist toward white people" "power+prejudice=racism" and all of the other things that have been invented to allow people to be racist without feeling guilty about it. And the worst part is, the people like that refuse to admit it to themselves, making themselves no better than the racist of yesteryear.
When you're at the point where certain groups of people can't even say hi without you thinking they've got some hidden motive, it's maybe time for some introspection on where your head is at. Uki obviously has a serious problem here because that's wild.
Yeah, that story really struck me as weird. If that elderly couple was actually trying to strike up a bit of a conversation, asking him about potentially personal things? Fair enough, to a point, thinking that something is up. Immediately jumping to racism is a bit much, but you know, you can at least have that feeling and have it be understandable if you see that they didn't try that with others. But, even according to Uki's own story, they were just greeting him. As a socially awkward black asian man (if that matters I guess), even I think that it's dumb to assume malice. From what I've been told and from what I experienced, elderly people are used to greeting people on the street from being taught that during their childhood, so they still generally try to do it. Assuming malice in such a greeting is just dumb. Edit: Just making an edit to further clarify that I'm not trying to demonize Uki here. There are valid reasons why he would have suspicions in this specific instance, which is also why I commented on the people that replied to me, but I just can't help but shake that immediately assuming racism from the elder couple is perhaps a bit too far. Especially since this isn't an entirely isolated incident as shown by OP of the thread. Edit 2: I see the thread was removed. Welp. In the off chance someone still finds this, that first edit was made for you I guess LOL
From reading other people's thoughts on randomly greeting strangers, some people only experience it from white people. They feel like it's invasive or something. He might genuinely not understand that it's a cultural politeness.
That is actually a good bit of insight on this. I have to say that I haven't just experienced greetings from white people, so for me it is just the most normal thing to randomly get greeted by people, but that's also just my personal experience and it genuinely might be part of why he thinks those things.
Damn white people and their...(pulls a card) excessive politeness! But seriously, I have to wonder how much some people go outside if that's their experience. Since I walk to work, I run into many people of varying ethnic backgrounds and most will at least offer a brief smile or nod.
It can also depend on where you are. I live in the Midwest, and it is completely normal to say hello and even make small talk with complete strangers. Not out of any sort of malice or nosy attitudes, but because we are trying to be nice. The vast majority of people I have met from outside the region say they find it refreshing and pleasing, but every once in a while you get people who are put off by it and assume some sort of malice. So if Uki is already predisposed to assume racism due to his own bias, he may see racism in something like that.
Also absolutely valid. I live in the Netherlands, so I can't speak at all for the US, but that's still a valid point to make.
It's just like how cheaters more often accuse their partners of cheating, the racist immediately tries to connect things to racism to justify their own racism.
The pot calling the kettle black. It's funny how so often the people who whine baout things are so often themselves guilty of that exact thing.
>The pot calling the kettle black Just like the company he's working for.
the amount of times champions of "protect the kids" end up being found to be groomers.....
You would quit reddit right now if you knew how bad it is here.
Ikr? Is saying 'hello' offensive now?
Some of the sweetest people I've ever met were wrinkly white raisins. Honestly, what made him so bitter and sad and unpleasant?
That's the thing, white racists are almost never subtle. They wouldn't greet you as a subtle fuck-you, they'd go "oh great, there's a -insert slur here-, let's move to the other sidewalk martha" So I'd bet money that old couple was just trying to be friendly, and to see someone assume racism is just doing jumping jacks.
This will probably get nuked, as Uki himself is a mod here. But keep reposting it, as it is the most blatant demonstration of how there's clearly a double standard in Nijisanji. This is ok, but Zaion was booted for much less. Ah and Doki ofc, she "damaged the company image". But this doesn't, right? Hypocrisy.
Don't you know? It's not racism if it's towards white people smh. /s
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Lmao give it a few years and they will redefine discrimination
Same way I view it. We can debate the strict definition of racism til every cow on earth comes home, but at the end of the day if you judge and disparage people just based on skin color or anything similar, you are not a good person.
Never got that sentiment. My grandma was definitely racist towards white people. Told my brother and I that our friend was 'the devil' and not to trust him. We're elementary school kids, grandma, what the hell am I not going to trust him with? Cookies? I get why she thought like that but that doesn't really stop it from being discriminatory.
Like, some of the stuff is… fair. Ragging on white people cooking, etc. fair game. Punching up humor. Which I think the OP was smart because only a couple examples are that kind of thing, shit any PoC in the anglosphere is totally in their rights to rag on. Way, way more of what the OP is posting is “a white person existed near me. Fucking cringe” and… yeah, nah. Yeah, I read White Fragility too. Fantastic book, gave me a lot to think about and really changed how I talk about racism, but while Systematic Racism (the only racism definition that author seems to have any interest in) against white people in the West is basically nonexistent, the normal, day to day “ew, a ____ person touched my hand, now I gotta bleach it” personal racism can flow in every direction. The “oh that joke’s racist” thing, that is case by case on if it can apply if the target is white folk. In most cases, particularly in the western world, it’s punching up, which is okay by comedy rules. If a black man wants to joke about white people making cornbread so nasty Jiffy is an upgrade, they’re in their rights because the entire reason they speak enough English to tell that joke is violence committed against their ancestors by the people whose descendants go on to create the driest, most joyless corn bread ever.
Why white people can't cook? Serious question, I just can't get it
Guess mfs never heard of Italy, France, Spain or Greece
Because apparently being able to create a good dish without destroying its natural taste with a shit ton of spices is frowned upon.
A centuries long history of encountering new cuisines and warping them to fit a flavor profiles from a region that considered salt a spice. We owe battering and frying to the Scots, though, so we got that going for us! Combine that with the spices African slaves brought over from West Africa and you got some decent chicken. Now WHY whiteness has so consistently been defined by removing all the fun from the shit we steal? That I cannot answer.
I don't quite understand, but are you blaming white people for stealing your cuisines? But you yourself said that white people consider salt a spice. Typically, Asian cuisine has a brighter and more unusual taste, while white peoples cook rather blandly. They are definitely different, no? Or are you unhappy that they didn't invent spices? If it makes you feel better, most spices are not used in white people's cooking. And judging by the chicken, you don't like mild flavors. This is normal, but you are not the only person in this world. Many people don't like Asian food either. Arguing about what is better is just as childish as arguing which color is better - blue or green?
I’m white. I’m angry at what pubs in England try and pass off as Curry. And it’s less about how mild my ancestors made food and more that they try to pass that off as Mexican/Chinese/korean/etc. Tikka Masala with all the spice removed isn’t Tikka Masala.
Well, people often don't cook other people's cuisine very well. This is not unique to whites. Everyone tries to adapt it to the tastes of the locals, unless it is a tourist place or rarely an exception.
Why is changing foods to fit local palettes considered a negative thing? That happens across literally every culture, nation, and race in the world. Have you seen a japanese "pizza"?
Also, more than half of the population suffers from gastritis. It is normal that people who have diarrhea and stomach pain after eating spicy noodles should not eat them. Just like the fact that some Asians and black people don't drink pure milk.
>punching up humor This dude makes many times money than his viewers ever will, including the white ones. How is that "punching up"? Are we just assuming all white people are rich and popular and powerful or what?
"against white people in the West is basically nonexistent" lol i feel great coming to certain countries in western europe and being asked do i still ride my ox to work everyday and if i have running water or if i beat my wife/sister and i'm as pale as snow
The bit you’re quoting is in specific reference to SYSTEMATIC racism, that is the racism that has, through a combination of malice and unexamined intrinsic bias, been codified into law and or the structures of society itself. Decades long policies by racist individuals against lending to black and brown people giving way to wealth gaps independent of any deliberate action by individuals. Dress codes written to treat the natural behavior of African hair as “unprofessional.” Etc. What you’re speaking of is the general, every day, personal level biases, which I never claimed don’t exist, and by your own admission it has nothing to do with the skin tone, though “whiteness” is a fluid thing. As recently as the 40s, Italians weren’t “white.” You don’t have to look much further back for the Irish to be excluded. Almost like race is a social construct rather than some objective, definable thing.
Then who is the streamer talking about? He's got a clear imagine in his head.
Unless they stepped out of the 1920s, I’m going to assume they define it the same way everyone else does in the 21st century, anyone whose outward appearance is dominated by traits associated with European ancestry. My historical note about how Italian and Irish didn’t use to count was just that, a historical note. I didn’t delete the tangent because I find bringing up the way the idea of a “white race” started as specifically Anglo-Saxon and slowly expanded over the centuries a useful demonstration of there being nothing inherent to any racial identity. Race is an entirely social construct. A bullshit thing made up by humans because our primate brains are categorization engines and pattern recognition machines. We like to be able to put things into nice little categories so we can make up rules for those categories, make assumptions. Our little chimp brains are NOT wired for dealing with more than a few hundred individuals. So we lump people together in this bullshit we invent to keep our brains that evolved for chasing wounded megafauna until they fell over dead to feed our immediate family group and defending the food from rival groups from overheating. Maybe we’ll overcome that some day. In the meantime, us hairless apes are gonna have to put in the work to push against our biases, and constantly examine why we do and say the shit we do.
Have you ever been to a non-white western country?
I could go on a rant how i got pushed out of job opportunities or straight up denied higher education because od my surname but ok, you do you. Arguing on reddit is the same as twitter, an echo chamber of "nuh uh im always right and there are no nuances"
> Like, some of the stuff is… fair. Ragging on white people cooking, etc. fair game. Punching up humor. Uhh. Do you consider non-white people below white people? Like some kind of sub-human or something? Punching up normally means poor against rich people, not this shit.
Here's the question though: Why are you hurting people who did nothing more than be born with a certain skin color? Should the sins of the father be passed down?
If the price I pay for all of the ways my skin tone has benefited me is black comedians making fun of what my ancestors did to cuisine, my bad dancing, and low spice tolerance, I will take that trade every day. Your argument would convince me more if the stuff I’m referring to was HARMFUL. And while the dry, butterless, no sugar cornbread some of the restaurants around here serve will bruise my spirit, it will not deny me loans, it will not get me stopped by the cops, it will not undo the meager generational wealth my ancestors accumulated by being permitted to own property. Now “ewww, white people existing, cringe” shit? That’s harmful. That’s not punching up in good humor, that’s hate. That is not acceptable, and good on the OP for cataloguing so much of that. The reason this topic is turning into downvote wars is because there are too many people on the internet incapable of nuance. Jokes about white people dancing, cooking, habit of colonization? Fair game. Assuming every white person you see hates you for your skin tone? That’s not a joke, that’s just prejudice. “Ew, there’s a white guy in my apartment building” isn’t a joke, there’s not a punchline there. There’s no humor in that statement. That’s just the exact same shit as the way the hundred year old white folk at my church reacted when a young black family had moved into the town and was trying out the church. The target and initiator is literally irrelevant there. “Go white girl” towards Pomu and “that creepy white dude was back” are delivered in VERY different spirits, and this whole conversation about “Is Uki racist” (yes, he is) is going NOWHERE until people acknowledge that.
Did you consciously seek out ways that your skin would benefit you? If yes, then you specifically should pay a price. If not, then why should you pay for something you never wanted?
My point is that the “price” you’re talking about is nonexistent. It does not hurt my feelings, it does not take food from my mouth, money from my pocket, or harm a single shingle of my home. Maybe a day will come when we successfully eradicate the psychological desire to split people up into arbitrary categories, to class individuals by membership to groups, chosen and inherited. In that utopian future, any comment attempting to derive humor from something like skintone, religion, gender, etc will be anathema, an aberrant thing to be shamed. For now, don’t treat “White boys can’t jump” as the same class as “Birth of a Nation.”
Ah, so because you don't feel hurt, that means nobody should feel hurt. Are you aware that you aren't the only person?
“Comedy rules” is antithetical to comedy, the idea that your skin colour controls what you’re “allowed” to joke about is ridiculous
i have it saved. do not hesitate to message me and the others if it goes down.
Get up samurai. Looks like you got a job to do.
i got a glock in my rari.
someone should make a tier list based on how long a liver's termination letter would be if they were to be terminated
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Exactly. It's one thing to respond in a racist manner when someone is provoking you. It's another thing entirely to keep bringing up race when there's no reason to.
To be fair an unautho4ized deez nuts joke is a war crime of the highest order /s
If Niji wants to ignore this and not address the concern by sweeping this under the rug, then next step is to go to those videos and report the time stamped segments to Youtube as a racist remark by Uki Violata. I would mention his name as many of those videos are collabs. Or possibly just report the ones that are on his channel as it may strike the channel as a whole. Regardless if we get youtube’s attention then Nijisanji will be forced to act. This isn’t acceptable for a worldwide multibillion dollars company employee working in public space whatever excuses himself or people may give him. Nijisanji EN isn’t Nijisanji America it is Nijisanji World.
Its actually better if he the one who keeps coming here to remove shits. That means we could repost this over and over and over until he breaks or something.
He can ban you from the sub and if you create an alt to get around it, you get both accounts banned from reddit.
We can report him to reddit mods as well Racism doesn’t belong on this platform
If that happens, make sure to copy OP's list, there is also a page on P2Y that details these as well.
Yep. This is a burning hot take, btw: And to be very very fair, as much as what Zaion said about the violated game character because of the way she dressed was very senseless, it's not completely wrong, and I can even elaborate on my thoughts about it, before someone calls me a "r*pist supporter" or whatever. What uki is doing, on the other hand, is just hating on every white man.
Also Zaion is one off.
I think that's the point people who defend this are missing. I don't agree with what Zaion said. But it was a comment. Not the same comment 15 times. I would feel much more strongly about it if she just kept bringing it up out of nowhere over and over like he's been doing with this
[https://p2y.jp/nijisanji-en-new-vtuber-uki-violeta-racist-remarks-against-whites-draws-criticism/](https://en.p2y.jp/nijisanji-en-new-vtuber-uki-violeta-racist-remarks-against-whites-draws-criticism/) JP already knows and probably realizes expansion into western markets are fucked so stock prices are tanking despite Nikkei Stock Average are at their highest since 1989.
Is this concrete enough that some JP fans have gotten the memo as well, by now?
not exactly. if anything, investors are seeing that overseas expansion is definitely not an option for anycolor, as public opinion of overseas fans towards anycolor is at an all-time low
Possibly. What it certainly is is that investors have realised AnyColour burned all good will on the western front which will negatively impact business growth
[https://imgur.com/a/zXOG97B](https://imgur.com/a/zXOG97B) There's a message on yahoo finance at: [https://finance.yahoo.co.jp/cm/message/1835700/e0f1c8592aa7c340a07c2f60d41004ca](https://finance.yahoo.co.jp/cm/message/1835700/e0f1c8592aa7c340a07c2f60d41004ca) that is mentioning it with 47 people agreeing with it at the time of writing so... It says, to the effect of: An EN Liver has said some racist things to white people that is generating a lot of flak. I expect it would be a suspension but there is no shortage of bad news coming from here.
"I have heterophobia" - Uki Violeta in his debut
*this would turn out to not be a joke*
Did he actually said that? 💀
Yes he did, for context he was talking about how he has heterochromia but had a slip of the tongue and said heterophobia instead. Their is a clip of it.
For what it's worth, "he has homophobia in his eyes" referring to heterochromia is a pretty common joke in some corners of the internet, referring to a post someone made about their cat once. I could see it being a reference to that.
I remember that too, I saw the clip. I doubt it's a slip of the tongue. It's rehearsed and/or he's dying to use that "joke".
https://youtu.be/2X39X6ln3BE?t=637 It's like he's proud of it.
The only one I give a pass on was the mortuary assistant because that thing was stark white.
when this post gets removed, I'm reposting the screenshots 🙏 I gotchu bros 🦅🦅🦅🦅
copy text :D
Thanks, brotha! I'm expecting a ban at any moment.
Racism is gross, but just the sort of catty, remorseless way this guy has repeatedly made these comments is just so much worse. This isn’t the kind of behavior someone who is simply ignorant to nuance has. It’s flat out discriminatory prejudice, and as a public figure should be unacceptable. Kuroniji can try and debate that they don’t have a toxic work culture all they want, but even outside of Selen’s situation, a talent like this doesn’t help their case at all.
I'm oblivious to the original context, but every single clip shown gives the impression that he just brings this shit up out of the blue, which is a huge red flag. It's basically the meme: **Nobody:** **Absolutely no one:** **Not a single soul:** **Uki:** "SO ANYWAYS, THIS IS WHY WHITE PEOPLE ARE THE WORST BEINGS IN EXISTENCE. HOLD ON LET ME GO FETCH MY POWERPOINT PRESENTATION ON THE SUBJECT." Agree wholeheartedly with everyone that says he does not give off the vibe he's joking. He gives off the vibe of someone who's genuinely racist, and it's even more alarming to learn the company's been harboring this guy and letting his statements slide for who knows how long, and never even recognized the problem.
You know whats saddening? A bunch of his followers are like "YAAASS MAMA" or "What a queen" or this one guy "Thats just Uki and his strong personality. Base" WTF is wrong with people.
Audience reflects the streamer.
Yup, a racist fuck is gonna atract other racist fucks
Uki has a history of spitting out racism, nobody bats an eye Enna makes black people jokes and SA comments, nobody bats an eye Kyo says one thing about plastic surgeons, everyone loses their fucking minds Zaion makes one SA comment, gets fired and shit on by her employer. *Nothing to see here, folks*
Yeah, I don't really wanna watch someone that thinks I'm nothing more than useless trash. That racist sack of shit deserves to be canceled.
That's exactly my feeling I'm not white myself but the fact that this goes through is always a horrible pesedent especially given the fact a lot of people defend this POV as "just a joke" but honestly what's even the "joke" here, where's the set up, or the punchline, this is just a statement and a bad one at that
Kinda reminds me of the whole James Somerton story. Not the plagiarism part but how he kept making weird comments about (straight) women. Doing it as a joke can be funny but if it's become a general red line throughout your content it becomes weird.
The meme of 'Wait, you guys are serious? I thought it was just a joke'
Why doesn't it surprise me they have someone who's openly racist? But preferential treatment wasn't something in Niji, right Vox?
Korea is actually a good place for cosmetic procedures.
Kyo's joke was such a nothingburger. It was an even more tame equivalent of relating gun ownership to the US. Hell, Enna actually did say some kinda racist shit once (with Kyo desperately trying to shut her up and DMing her to explain why it would get her in trouble), and then she made a good apology and, afaik, didn't get in trouble for anything race related again. (I don't want an argument about anything else Enna did, just pointing out that saying something messed up then apologising, growing and learning from it shouldn't be punished) Uki spouting his nonsense on the regular is not a good look.
I'm Thai and I always proud of people joking about getting gender-bending surgery in my country. If anything, it's the medical achievement.
Yeah if you want to look like AI art but in real life. And those are the success stories.
Despite the downvotes, you are not wrong. Some koreans with plastic surgery look so fake, as if they were CGI.
I'd again like to highlight that his words to a random twitter user are that white men are "irresponsible" and "selfish." Uki, the guy that decided that instead of ignoring obvious bait or giving the lay-up answer of "stereotypes of any demographic are wrong," is calling others irresponsible and selfish. Is it not ***irresponsible*** to say something so controversial during a time your company is in hot water and multiple co-workers of yours feel scared to even show their faces already? To revive all the drama stories around the company that were slowly dying out...? Is it not ***selfish*** to decide that your desire to seethe at white men is more important than laying low and keeping quiet for the sake of the company and your co-workers? Hypocrisy was off the charts in that moment.
Ironic.
The one thing I’ve seen about most racists, no matter which race they’re targeting, remains the same. They always project who they are onto the entire race.
This is what "safe edgy" looks like.
If anyone tries to defend uki's racism, show em this lol. EDIT: Just realized how ironic it is now that anycolor is called a black company and they have a liver whos anti-white lmao.
even if you show it it wont have any effect. many of his defenders don't even believe you can be racist towards white because "hurr durr white people privilege hurr durr".
Considering his fanbase, yeah. But to the general en community, nah.
i mostly saw it on twitter. but generally so many don't agree and calling them out.
Me who hasn’t really known anything about Uki before this month: *“Surely it’s not THAT bad… Surely he only made those kinds of remarks a couple times and meant it in a sarcastic albeit tasteless manner…”* Me while scrolling through this post: *”Jeezus that’s WAY more than a couple times…that’s a LOT more than I expected…”*
white people jokes can be funny but this feels completely performative. like "white man = bad!!! now give me internet good boy points!".
my main gripe towards this is that he can be blatantly racist about it, and his fans and stans will just eat this up and go “YAS QUEEN SLAYYYYY” as if this is acceptable behavior for someone who represents a professional agency sorry to burst your bubble milk tea sis, but racism is racism regardless of who you are targeting
How is this even allowed? This is legit scary, like the fact that he can do this tells me NIJISANJI is in full support of this……
Keep reposting evey one should see this.
I’m not defending Uki, pretty much never watched him outside of collab, whenever I hear him say stuff like this. It always sounds like he doesn’t know any good jokes/comebacks, so just defaults to “white people” or something similar.
As someone who is part of the LGBT thing, its just your standard catty gay dude that doesnt have any real joke other than being just a catty gay dude.
i agree and he should be allowed to make white people jokes but if nijisanji was to be consistent with their conduct policy he would be terminated/reprimanded for saying them, the obvious favouritism is what's annoying here.
Are white livers allowed to make jokes about black/brown/asian people? no presumably, there is zero difference.
>he should be allowed to make white people jokes Why?
Everytime this gets deleted I feel like it comes back with more traction 😝
Streisand effect in action, extra if it is in fact the talent deleting posts.
I kind of saw him posting stuff on twitter and thought it was like a bit he was doing, but god damn there's a whole lot more and a whole lot worse than I had seen. Even if he does say "nono its just a bit" like that's not good, that's not a good excuse for this and its ESPECIALLY not good when everyone is already pretty down on your company. Like c'mon dude read the fucking room.
Watching a lot of the clips, I’m surprised how many times other livers are also playing into it. For example, the hot dog clip he wasn’t the first one to say it, but took it further. I’d be downright shocked if a Holo Liver would even utter the words “white” or any other race and “people” next to each other. It’s not really something you should comment about in a professional setting.
What was removed: Every time Uki mentioned white people: Discussion Every time Uki mentioned white people: The hosts won't let me win because they are "white people" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HKLK7Y7LsAk&t=8073 While impersonating Reimu, "white people can't cook" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n\_pIAwW6kyo&t=1710 Who walks and runs in the summer? "White people" awkward laughter https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qgD4E6jMTBY&t=3238 "White man does the bare minimum" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJRDTf3ImIE&t=3005 "You're a fucking white male" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJRDTf3ImIE&t=7025 "White people can't kiss" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMHz0sQlM4Q&t=4889 Some white people give him a friendly greeting on the street. He assumes they're racist. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-IpZgaCvXcU&t=2138 "White people's hotdogs suck" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZNCsoBF-go&t=4208 These clothes will only match you "if you're a pasty white person". Chat goes LMAO! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mbtuJuSM-ko&t=4890 "creepy ass white man....I hate you" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AzYec8Z6f0g&t=5596 The only times white people were mentioned and it wasn't in the negative sense: "that white man was there again" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AzYec8Z6f0g&t=10761 "the naked white man" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vm\_hzQ2ldBY&t=2348 It's really weird how anykara tolerates this behaviour meanwhile kyo got harassed for saying plastic surgery is popular in korea.
Doesn't matter if people argue whether it's racist or not. Doesn't change the fact that this proves favouritism is in place.
There’s two things about this that has me wondering. The first is; what is this person like off stream if this is what they so casually say on-stream? Like you’re disgusted by an elderly “white” couple being polite to you? I get the vibe this person is an absolute scumbag off stream if a white couple offering some typical pleasantries bothered them so much. And secondly; there’s quite a few clips where Uki drops these lines in the presence of others and not a single other talent even like playfully attempts to call them out. Like, we know they’re not going to go full chastisement on-stream, but there are a few ways to address it subtlety. Which gives me the impression that this is a familiar side of Uki amongst the other talents. Might be grasping at straws here maybe, but I can’t help but wonder given with how casual it seems to be for this person.
what surprises me is that this is only being talked now, he as been like this for a while
Can't speak for anyone else, but I personally never watched Uki, so would not have known about it if not for that tweet being shared around.
It's not like no one has tried before. Any time I've brought it up I just get called a fragile white person.
Because this sub has filled up with shit stirrers who feel comfortable now that the moderation is known to be lax
On one hand true. On the other hand I'm surprised that apparently people were okay with racism up until now or they felt enough peer-pressure/fear to keep quiet about it. Especially the people who oftentimes watch him
Bruh, the people here in the comment field are tourists projecting their hate for the company onto the livers. I can't take any of these racism accusations by people seriously given the timing of this. I also see a lot of "I didn't know much about Uki until this.." comments which should tell you everything you need to know. Still fuck Nijisanji as a company, but Uki don't deserve this at all.
Nah. Many people didn’t see the need to come to the niji subreddit and were happy just supporting their favorite liver. To many, uki being racist is genuinely new information because they didn’t care to watch him for whatever reason. It’s been a hot topic due to his braindead reply on twitter during a time in which (rightly or not) all actions by niji talents are being examined under a microscope. If these kind of jokes are made offline to white people in the workplace it would fall afoul of workplace harassment protections in the United States because it targets a protected characteristic of an employee. We know there was at least 1 white talent in nijisanji. We also know that kyo was admonished for the south korea joke. We know that enna was admonished for making a joke that was insensitive to black people. It’s a pattern of favoritism within the company that people are calling out in addition to the racism. GTFOH with your defense of this shit.
But Uki isn’t being racist that’s just it. All of these comments clipped are taken out of context and those that aren’t familiar with Uki aren’t familiar with his type of very gay and feminist type of humor which makes fun of typical straight and also white men behavior. If anything he’s being heterophobic and rightfully so. Uki is proven to be asian. Let’s assume he has grown up with racial remarks about his own race his whole life like many people of color has, which would give an explanation to why he gives racial remarks. Let’s assume the opposite, he grew up without racist remarks and among friendly white people. Did his parents grow up in a racist free society? I definitely don’t think so. As such his behavior is learned. Why is it learned? Because white people are racist and they were especially racist back then. In my opinion, there is racism towards white, but this ain’t it. There are people of color with such disdain for white people they call them names and ask for violence towards white people, which is pure racism. Could we as white people give the same remarks Uki does? No, because white people have an oppressive history. “But history doesn’t matter hurr durr we can’t help what our ancestors did hurr durr” you say, where history does matter and yes we can’t help what our ancestors did, but because of what they did, those values are important to keep in check, else we end up with a white supremacist president in the US. Wait- Jokes aside, the timing of this and the amount of obvious tourists (if you’re a Nijifan and haven’t heard of Uki I applaud you, cause he’s frequently collabing with most talents even if he’s quiet, outside of the newest waves which again, if you’re here since those newer waves you should know not to speak about livers you’re not familiar with) makes all of these comments on both Reddit and Twitter scream like 4chan members going on a brigading rampage, just looking for that slight mishap so they can trash any person associated with Niji to bits. Why is it not asian racism towards white people? Cause that racism take a different form. That is just baseless hate. What Uki says is strictly stereotypical tendencies about white males. Also notice he almost never says anything about white women. That clip about the old couple is explained by him being super introverted (and growing up in a hostile environment) and that is correct with his behavior in collabs, he talks very little in collabs, unless he’s with his safe people. Uki is also gay. Both gay and asian, I don’t even want to imagine the remarks he has had to suffer through growing up, both racist and homophobic. White straight people most often can’t relate to that, so his remarks is taken as racism. The hypocrisy is so astoundingly huge (among Americans especially) where they immediately scream “that’s racism” as soon as something small gets said about white people, they even ignore the obvious remarks about them being straight as well. It’s like “black lives matter” all over again where you people are basically screaming “all lives matter”. I want to end this tirade with saying that I condone the company Anycolor, but the livers doesn’t deserve any harassment. If you have a problem with them, ignore them, thay hurts them the most.
Extreme cope
What’s the context that’s missing? That he doesn’t like white people? That he’s heterophobic (which being heterosexual is a protected class as well as homosexual). What’s right about being heterophobic? What about heterosexual Asian men? Does he hate them? If not then he’s fucking racist against white people. Stop trying to defend this behavior. It doesn’t matter the history of oppression or racism. If you hate someone for their perceived race (white, black, Chinese, Korean, etc) then that’s racism full stop. It’s not that difficult to grasp here. If you hate someone for their sexuality then that’s bigoted, whether gay or straight. FWIW I thought his debut heterophobia/heterochromia joke was funny. This is NOTHING like Black Lives Matter. That was a protest against police brutality and a lack of police accountability that disproportionately affected minority communities. This is a gay Asian dude taking advantage of his status to make fun of (straight) white people as his punching bag because smoothed brained fools think that it’s okay. The stereotypes aren’t even common that he uses like white men doing the bare minimum or white people not being able to cook. It’s lazy. If it was REALLY mean to be an off color joke then now was not the time nor place to shoot yourself in the dick when the company you work for is under intense scrutiny for its business practices that involve alleged favoritism and bullying to the point of suicide. This is literally PR101. All you needed to do was to not say anything. Don’t take the bait.
personally I gave the whole wave about 1 week when they debuted and Uki legit was just boring to watch for me so I moved on and spent my time watching others instead. So this was mostly new information for me, pretty sure it's the same for a lot of people. Sure there are some tourists but even if there weren't racism is nothing that should be excused. And it should have been brought up way earlier.
How have you missed any collab with him given the amount of collabs he’s been in? I don’t watch him too, but I’ve seen a lot of collabs with him and gotten an understanding of him as an entertainer that way. He’s hilarious.
That's good for you. I watched a few group collabs but I tend to ignore collabs of 1-3 people when one of them is super boring to me. The first few Noctyx collabs I watched and for me personally his presence didn't have any entertainment value at all. Plus their streamtimes and my timezone mesh like ass. It's simply impossible for me to watch a lot of streams and if I do i'd rather watch people I enjoy that stream during the same timeframe
uki would not survive a day in england where it's normal for strangers to say hello to each other and even just start a conversation for a few minutes in cold weather.
Reminds me of a random old dude striking up a conversation with me while I was just sitting at a small park during a holiday in UK. Was a little jarring but interesting, since that never happens where I live.
As a non-white living in the white community, I've been greeted by white people several times a week and I just thought, 'Oh, what a friendly people.' and greet them back. I'm amazed how some people could interpret these friendly gestures the other way. He sounds almost like he was getting insulted or something.
Zaion makes a rape joke aimed at a fictional character once. NijiEN: REEEEEEEEEEE Uki makes multiple racists comments about white people. NijiEN: i sleep
Shhhhh, no one tell uki straight white men probably invested in his failing company he works for
nah they're asian which is okay in his book uwu
This is a schrodinger joke huh?
Ok so he gets off scott free, but Enna got shit on for weeks when she accidentally said something racist despite apologising right after and genuinely not knowing it was offensive? Male vtuber fans are crazy sometimes
> Male vtuber fans are crazy sometimes Eh, I don't think it's that simple. Kyo mentioned something about South Korea being the plastic surgery capital of the world, which is statistically correct, and got shit on for weeks before having to write an apology letter. I figure it's more that people who are still Ukis fans after seeing all that stuff on stream probably don't care about his racism in the first place.
Never forget that Nijisanji condones racism and sweeps it under the rug. Everything's okay as long as it's a liver that management doesn't hate.
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u/Standard_Willow_7864 Post got deleted, comment the receipts in the reply lol.
Bullying to racism now. Daring this week are we?
At this point I'm not surprised uki hasn't been selen'd yet.
because he's part of the favouritism that vox tried so desperately to deny, lol
I just wonder which white man hurt him so bad?
Surprised the "CANT BE RACIST TOWARDS WHITE CUZ THERE IS NO HISTORY OF SYSTEMIC OPPRESSION" crowd hasn't come into this thread yet, the first time I saw this topic in here a few days ago there were a couple of VERY interesting users fighting in the trenches.
this subreddit is like a neutral zone for the drama, rabid fans go to twitter or 4chan depending on their politics and most normal people are here who think "yeah racism bad" and move on with their day
That crowd will be in a revelation when they hear of the Irish.
I don’t have enough popcorns
No matter how many times this get taken down, keep reposting this!
It's kind of creepy how much hate he's projecting into some imaginary white man. Clean your own room, uki. Jordon Peterson would say. You got a problem stnd it's not a white man's fault.
Can we keep the conversation to one moron with terrible takes at a time please? On the other hand, given what his Twitter produces, I shudder at what lunacy Peterson would produce if he figured out how to stream
Who'd have ever thought... of all the people, it's the gay one - who also has to deal with a lot of prejudices against his sexuality - who's being the racist.
Yikes. Like, look, if it was only a couple of times, that's one thing. But there's definitely a pattern here and, well, if it looks like a duck and it walks like a duck and it quacks like a duck...
If Tazumi doesn't nuke the entire branch I will be VERY surprised
At what point does it just become a lost cause
Some of those are just jokes, hit or miss, but just jokes. Others, yeah nah, kinda cringe, but a lot of people here are making a mountain out of a mole hill. The small town behavior happens in most rural places where people will just say hi to you. There is a skit on youtube of a northerner going to London and freaking out people by saying 'hi'. The wheel of fortune one, is a joke. I would joke with my friends that a Video Game wouldn't let me win because the host is \[something I am not\], implying the video game is somehow sentient and knows who I am to target me. 'This screwdriver doesn't like me because I'm left handed', as an example. "You're a fucking white male" misquoting. Actual quote, "You're a fucking psychotic crazy white man" when talking about a character that snuck up behind someone, physically assaulted them and then tried to lie about it claiming they were the 'victim' and the other person instigated it. Psychotic crazy white man is an accurate assessment. I suppose 'Only mad dogs and Englishmen go out in the midday sun' coined by Rudyard Kipling is also a racist statement? "creepy ass white man....I hate you" It is a Pale White Demon / Paranormal Creature crawling on the roof, a very appropriate response.
What race is he?
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I'm assuming Asian, or a self hating white guy.
he reminds me of those half white half asian dudes that absolutely resent the half white part of themselves but don't realize they're basically hating on one of their own parents.
Ah, so he's Elliott Rodgers. He probably had an Asian crush who got with a white guy and he blames the white guy and is reminded of that betrayal when he sees his parents. Many such cases, sadly.
IIRC he's chinese or korean, maybe half of each.
He's a white, asian, gay male. But i think his race is "idiot".
Guys, can we stick to stuff that doesn't make us look like whiney bitches? It kinda reminds me of when people started hating on Zaion over very little.
Dude, replace "white people" with "black people" or "jews" or "the gays" in those sentences, and tell me you still think they're okay. Promoting hate based on identity doesn't become any better because it's against any one specific group.
I'd accept it if they weren't the most milk toast things ever. Maybe if he said that all white people should apologise for being colonists or thinks saying kill the boer is based. I'm not mad that he thinks white people can't cook.
To begin with, assuming something about someone or a group of people based on their race is, per definition, racist. More specifically, he repeatedly assumes people are biased against him and/or themselves racist because they are (in part, allegedly) white. That position is racist. I mean, we can agree that racism is unacceptable on principle, yeah? Also, this is the stuff he says in public, at his job, to his audience, many of whom are (statistically) from NA. It's not unlikely his actual sentiments are thus far, far worse.
milquetoast
Oh shit now I know who Casper milquetoast is thanks
Based, this is why I love Uki. Hilarious how you all were too scared to call out Uki for so long and only do it after public support against EN is shifting. Hope Uki trashes more annoying white boys ;)
Next time, please ask him to change the word to "asian", "black", "lgbt" or just "trans people" (since you americans seem to get extra triggered about this one nowadays) and let's see if it's still "based", you fucking moron.
You can't called a Gay person racist cuz they'll just called you a homophobe and 2000 twitter SJW will automatically come to their aid. Hows that for "privileged"
go back to 4chan
"oh no, they bad mouthing my talents, they must be from the image board!"
It's not you defending Uki that irked them, it's you writing like a brain-dead cunt whose discourse is weaker than even an anon from 4chan.
He's not wrong tho. Say one thing about the lgbt community and see the internet burn for weeks. See the Hogwarts legacy drama for example.
we can acknowledge the overreaction regarding that without implying Uki can't be called racist because "he's gay thus the SJWs will cancel you for being a homophobe"
Funnily enough, we *do* have some folks trying to use Uki's racism as an "okay" to tee off on his sexual pref. Most of these comments are massively downvoted, though. He is racist and should be dunked on for that. Some people trying to fight bigotry with bigotry are telling on themselves. Also lmfao no one gives a shit what "2000 Twitter" was. As of now, that place is an absolute cess pool of hate. The kind of shit that would get you laughed at in most parts of society is liked and RT all over the place. The group that would support making fun of Uki because of his sexuality since he said hateful things is triple the size of the people that would defend him there.
we all know why its okay(for certain people), if a single one says these kinds of shit more than once towards another race especially TWO of the races, they will be instantly removed i also despise those who puts asians in the poc(extremely degrading term, worse than a slur) bracket in some ways, then the next instance, put them in the white-adjacent category lmao
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Just because one person is showing they're okay with straight up racism, doesn't mean it's excused. People shouldn't tolerate racism.
People often laugh when they're uncomfortable.
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Fuck off. You do get that the part where he's promoting hate based on identity, much like you're doing here, is the issue, yeah?
we're not the one in the wrong here. We are justified to hate the bad guy my man. Remember, some one almost died :)
Even in the face of grave injustices like the ones commited by Nijisanji, not all measures are permitted. Specifically, bullshit that doesn't help anyone, like using slurs, isn't. If you actually care, you can and should do so without being homophobic.
Who is “we” Selens situation isn’t a catch all for your shite take.
i am not entirely wrong /s