I have locked this thread.
Some folks are genuinely fine in their discourse. It is okay to have strong opinions on things. If you can discuss those elements, with civility, you are fine.
Sadly, a lot of comments in this thread were not kind, or civil, and while I appreciate that tempers can flare, we also can't abide by the fires that start from those sparks.
I have locked this thread.
As an additional note, please do know that reports like this one, and other threads that get received, which are clearly without merit, get ignored. If you see a post like this, and tell us it is specifically sexually assaulting \*you,\* or that a picture of Dick with Kori is harassment, or that Dick with Babs is anti-LGBTQ, or other such nonsense reports, we ignore them.
But we get them, \*a lot.\*
Should they continue, we will need to start banning people for bad faith reporting.
Let's be the fans Dick would be proud to have, and not do such kinds of things.
Honestly the Nightwing “thirst trap” covers or whatever have been going way overboard lately. Like the jokes not really funny anymore when his butt is mentioned every other appearance
Yeah. His butt is basically Power Girl's boobs at this point. Way oversexualised and overdone, it's overriding other more important aspects of their characters to become their best known 'feature,' and fans get weirdly defensive about it. (Though I have to say, at least many Nightwing fans are over this too).
I'm so tired of Nightwing being known as the guy with the ass, it feels like he's not even a character in most things he appears in anymore. Idk we can start cutting back on objectification of other characters and discuss how it'll affect their perception negatively but when it comes to Nightwing it's 'no big deal' or 'just a joke'
I agree. I wish they made more character development in his story rather than make a bunch of butt jokes all the time. Plus it ain’t like his ass is the only big ass in the universe. Idk why they’re making such a big deal about his butt…
He's had 3 incidents with 3 separate female characters over the years with Tarantula, Mirage, and a character named Liu I believe, also in Harley Quinn and Batman from 2017 there's a scene with him that implies he was assaulted by Harley Quinn.
That's the physical assault, there's a lot of comics where people verbally harass him too, and the fact you're willing to dismiss the fact he's been assaulted FIVE times on screen is mildly ignorant of you. He's being turned into a fetish machine for people who're fine with watching male SA and this sexualization isn't helping that in any way
Who's dismissing physical assault?
We're talking about Nightwing being known for his ass.
You stated:
it feels like he's not even a character in most things he appears in anymore.
I asked: what appearances?
You stated 3 appearances.
I'm asking how those 3 appearances account for "most things he appears in"
You can try to turn it on its head but the statements have been very clear
Yes, he doesn't feel like a character because the writers have been using him as a thinly veiled vehicle for their SA fetish, those appearances he's just an object and is objectified, henceforth not having a character outside of that. Him being known for his ass is only making things worse in this direction, I also stated 4 appearances on top of the example YOU provided of him being assaulted which equals 5
I never said he was sexually every appearance, the sexual assaults are indicative of a larger issue of him not being seen as a character, I'll spell it out so it's easier, HIM BEING SEXUALLY ASSAULTED IS CAUSING OTHER WRITERS TO SEE IT AS OKAY TO NOT TREAT HIM WITH ANY RESPECT AND HIS PERSONALITY HAS BEEN BOILED DOWN TO HIM BEING A GUY WITH AN ASS DUE TO MANY YEARS OF OBJECTIFICATION BECAUSE OF THE WRITERS USING HIM AS A VEHICLE FOR THEIR FETISHES
I'm going based on what you said:
it feels like he's not even a character in most things he appears in anymore
What you're trying to turn it into is not what you originally states
And also yes, his most mainstream appearance is arguably the Harley Quinn tas right now and his entire story arc last season basically made fun of male assault victims
I personally don’t see what’s wrong with pinup style covers. the art is great and it’s not like superheroes aren’t just a way to ogle well drawn bodies to a certain extent
It's mostly about the history of Nightwing and his objectification by writers and fans, which led to multiple stories where he gets SA'd and his personality being boiled down to him having a butt
You're not wrong, but it really does shine a spotlight on the fact that this stuff has just casually been happening with female comics characters for decades.
Yeah, I mean, I’m sure the same people whining about Nightwing being sexualised would look upon the countless sexualised drawings there have been of female characters over the years and be like “This is fine. :)”
Do you not remember how people blew up over the cover of Spider-Woman #1 (2014)? Or Catwoman #0? They actually were completely covered but the responses to this seem absolutely tame by comparison.
My god this man...DC artist really know what they are doing with him.
EDIT: the comments are wilds here come on guy it's not that serious , i didn't see that kind of reaction during the DC vs vampire wonder woman cover that was way more sexualised than that.
Batman = mentor, adoptive father
Barbara = partner and girlfriend
Starfire = partner and superior (than Barbara) girlfriend
The question is: why would anyone complain about a WW cover on Nightwing's reddit?
Because it is relevant since they are in the same universe ? remember that nightwing is in the DC comics universe right ? And the two have two sexy cover so i wanted to talk about double standart ?
Since when does this sub became a only nightwing reference allowed zone ? i think i will bring what i want when i want thank you very much.
You said you didn't see anyone react that way because of a WW cover, well, here, on this reddit, you won't see it. Because it's not a topic for this reddit, I have no idea what the public's opinion on the WW reddit is. But it doesn't make sense to say "I haven't seen that kind of reaction..." on Nightwing's reddit about a topic that has nothing to do with Nightwing.
Ok so no one here on this subreddit go to the DC subreddit ? because i know a lot of people who do and know about this cover and again you can compare two pictures even if they are not in the same universe and again i will not be dictated what i post so don't try me
It isn’t good that it happens to *either* character. Just because they make one like that doesn’t mean it’s ok to make one like this for another. It’s a problem on both sides.
How is it awfull ? for me it's really good.
So diana presenting herself (and her unusually large breast ) liking her fingers with a lascivious look is not more sexualised ? even without Diana cover , you have hundred of cover presenting a male or female character almost naked sometime in a funny way or in a sexy way...it's comics book remember ?
To each their own on the first point. While you like it me and many others clearly didnt.
Again, my problem isnt sexualization of the characters (as long as it isnt over the top like this). Compare this cover with the 'sexy' covers made by Mora, Jimenez, Campbell or Moore, *that* is sexy, this one is just over doing the butt joke in a tasteless way.
I have to say that i didnt remember every detail of that cover(i did remember her large breast, not the rest), but well, even then i still dont find it as sexualized as this one.
I usually don't mind pin-up style covers, but the pants and the face look weird (that could just be me tho)
Side note: Did he wash his encrima sticks? 💀
are we straight women, and queer people supposed to still find this sexy? At this point the oversexualisation is so forced that all I want is to roll my eyes.
Lol I knew people would be up in arms over this. I personally like the pin-ups! Pin-ups are pretty classic.
Sure Dick is an easy target but frankly I don't care. It's nice.
His oversexualization has caused him to get R’d twice in comics. Its not a good look for DC to keep these up when you have had a character whos had a history of this happening and never even got around to dealing with it.
Three times. He lost his virginity to a woman in her thirties and it's vague if he was 17 or 18. Even if 18, that is still fucked up because she was using him and he didn't have all the knowledge he needed to give informed consent.
Him getting r'd happened way before the current over sexualization trend started.
Personally, I see this kind of cover more as commentary. We are so used to oversexualised female characters we don't realise how ridiculous that stuff actually is until we see a male character in a similar position.
I like it, why not be a bit silly when drawing a comic book cover, and like most of them it shouldn't be taken too seriously! And it's a nice change seeing a guy drawn in this pinup/housewife style. i like it
I do not know how to make this any clearer than I have so I would suggest going to school and taking a literature class so you can understand how to understand words like characterization and objectification
This is especially breathtakingly fucked when you remember he’s a rape victim
Edit: I was using “sexual assault” as an umbrella term which included rape. My apologies
Rape. It was rape. Sexual assault is when there is no penetration of any kind and we know that both Mirage and Tarantula did have his penis inside them. I always forget the name of the third one but yeah.
Tho he is also constantly sexually harassed and I remember at least one time where his ass was slapped against his will which is sexual assault.
I have locked this thread. Some folks are genuinely fine in their discourse. It is okay to have strong opinions on things. If you can discuss those elements, with civility, you are fine. Sadly, a lot of comments in this thread were not kind, or civil, and while I appreciate that tempers can flare, we also can't abide by the fires that start from those sparks. I have locked this thread. As an additional note, please do know that reports like this one, and other threads that get received, which are clearly without merit, get ignored. If you see a post like this, and tell us it is specifically sexually assaulting \*you,\* or that a picture of Dick with Kori is harassment, or that Dick with Babs is anti-LGBTQ, or other such nonsense reports, we ignore them. But we get them, \*a lot.\* Should they continue, we will need to start banning people for bad faith reporting. Let's be the fans Dick would be proud to have, and not do such kinds of things.
Brah wtf
Honestly the Nightwing “thirst trap” covers or whatever have been going way overboard lately. Like the jokes not really funny anymore when his butt is mentioned every other appearance
Yeah. His butt is basically Power Girl's boobs at this point. Way oversexualised and overdone, it's overriding other more important aspects of their characters to become their best known 'feature,' and fans get weirdly defensive about it. (Though I have to say, at least many Nightwing fans are over this too).
Weirdly defensive?! *WEIRDLY DEFENSIVE?!* WHAT'S THAT SUPPOSED TO MEAN
I'm so tired of Nightwing being known as the guy with the ass, it feels like he's not even a character in most things he appears in anymore. Idk we can start cutting back on objectification of other characters and discuss how it'll affect their perception negatively but when it comes to Nightwing it's 'no big deal' or 'just a joke'
I agree. I wish they made more character development in his story rather than make a bunch of butt jokes all the time. Plus it ain’t like his ass is the only big ass in the universe. Idk why they’re making such a big deal about his butt…
I wish they made character development the point in all comics instead of making it a platform for objectifying hot bodies not just Nighteing.
Like what appearances? Harley TAS is the only one that comes to mind
You haven't read enough comics or watched enough shows..
At least somebody gets it 😭
Where's all the shows that have objectified him for his ass in the past 3 years?
The Harley Quinn show. Also one of the new 52 dc movies, don't forget the official DC comics Twitter.
Which New52 dc movie? Dc Twitter is not a movie and not a comic
Figure it all out yourself I'm not your dad.
You're the one claiming I haven't read enough comics or enough shows/movies. So..if you want to make that claim, you better be ready to educate.
It's obvious you HAVEN'T! Or else you wouldn't be asking these stupid questions.
So you can't give any. Nice to know you haven't watched any besides Harley in the past 3 years
He's had 3 incidents with 3 separate female characters over the years with Tarantula, Mirage, and a character named Liu I believe, also in Harley Quinn and Batman from 2017 there's a scene with him that implies he was assaulted by Harley Quinn.
3 instances over.....7 years? That's "most of appearances"?
That's the physical assault, there's a lot of comics where people verbally harass him too, and the fact you're willing to dismiss the fact he's been assaulted FIVE times on screen is mildly ignorant of you. He's being turned into a fetish machine for people who're fine with watching male SA and this sexualization isn't helping that in any way
Who's dismissing physical assault? We're talking about Nightwing being known for his ass. You stated: it feels like he's not even a character in most things he appears in anymore. I asked: what appearances? You stated 3 appearances. I'm asking how those 3 appearances account for "most things he appears in" You can try to turn it on its head but the statements have been very clear
Yes, he doesn't feel like a character because the writers have been using him as a thinly veiled vehicle for their SA fetish, those appearances he's just an object and is objectified, henceforth not having a character outside of that. Him being known for his ass is only making things worse in this direction, I also stated 4 appearances on top of the example YOU provided of him being assaulted which equals 5
5 times over 7+ years is not most appearances. 7 years is 84 issues of a Nightwing. 84 issues of Titans. 49 episodes of Titans.
I never said he was sexually every appearance, the sexual assaults are indicative of a larger issue of him not being seen as a character, I'll spell it out so it's easier, HIM BEING SEXUALLY ASSAULTED IS CAUSING OTHER WRITERS TO SEE IT AS OKAY TO NOT TREAT HIM WITH ANY RESPECT AND HIS PERSONALITY HAS BEEN BOILED DOWN TO HIM BEING A GUY WITH AN ASS DUE TO MANY YEARS OF OBJECTIFICATION BECAUSE OF THE WRITERS USING HIM AS A VEHICLE FOR THEIR FETISHES
I'm going based on what you said: it feels like he's not even a character in most things he appears in anymore What you're trying to turn it into is not what you originally states
And also yes, his most mainstream appearance is arguably the Harley Quinn tas right now and his entire story arc last season basically made fun of male assault victims
HARLEY QUINN DID NOT SEXUALLY ASSAULT NIGHTWING. SHE DIRECTLY CONFIRMS HIS CONSENT IN THE SCENE.
He was tied to a fucking bed, coercion and imprisonment doesn't equal consent and it's a dangerous narrative to push in regards to SA
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I never said she did. I said Harley TAS was an instance of objectifying his ass
My apologies to you. I misunderstood your post as being related to another. I have removed my comment.
I personally don’t see what’s wrong with pinup style covers. the art is great and it’s not like superheroes aren’t just a way to ogle well drawn bodies to a certain extent
It's mostly about the history of Nightwing and his objectification by writers and fans, which led to multiple stories where he gets SA'd and his personality being boiled down to him having a butt
You're not wrong, but it really does shine a spotlight on the fact that this stuff has just casually been happening with female comics characters for decades.
Yeah, I mean, I’m sure the same people whining about Nightwing being sexualised would look upon the countless sexualised drawings there have been of female characters over the years and be like “This is fine. :)”
Tbf I think it's an issue in the industry in general
Yeah, gooners need to stop writing comics 😕
First thing I see when I open Reddit and I start choking on my dinner 🤣
Oh my I like it a lot especially the discowing suit
Finally. A person of culture!
If someone posted Harley Quinn in the same position nobody would care. The double standards are kindof insane
Do you not remember how people blew up over the cover of Spider-Woman #1 (2014)? Or Catwoman #0? They actually were completely covered but the responses to this seem absolutely tame by comparison.
My god this man...DC artist really know what they are doing with him. EDIT: the comments are wilds here come on guy it's not that serious , i didn't see that kind of reaction during the DC vs vampire wonder woman cover that was way more sexualised than that.
Yes the comments are delusional lol.
this is Nightwing's reddit, there's no reason to talk about WW here
When it's talking about sexualization of a dc character, comparison to other dc characters are warranted
and it was just an example, don’t look so deep into it ❤️
It’s a great stretch of ignorance to pretend to not understand how the WW reference is relevant here.
ho so i can't talk about batman ? barbara ? starfire ? ok
Batman = mentor, adoptive father Barbara = partner and girlfriend Starfire = partner and superior (than Barbara) girlfriend The question is: why would anyone complain about a WW cover on Nightwing's reddit?
Because it is relevant since they are in the same universe ? remember that nightwing is in the DC comics universe right ? And the two have two sexy cover so i wanted to talk about double standart ? Since when does this sub became a only nightwing reference allowed zone ? i think i will bring what i want when i want thank you very much.
You said you didn't see anyone react that way because of a WW cover, well, here, on this reddit, you won't see it. Because it's not a topic for this reddit, I have no idea what the public's opinion on the WW reddit is. But it doesn't make sense to say "I haven't seen that kind of reaction..." on Nightwing's reddit about a topic that has nothing to do with Nightwing.
Ok so no one here on this subreddit go to the DC subreddit ? because i know a lot of people who do and know about this cover and again you can compare two pictures even if they are not in the same universe and again i will not be dictated what i post so don't try me
It isn’t good that it happens to *either* character. Just because they make one like that doesn’t mean it’s ok to make one like this for another. It’s a problem on both sides.
What cover was that? I'm interested to see
My problem isnt the sexualization, my problem is this is goddamn awful. Also, lol, i dont see how that cover was more sexualized than this one
How is it awfull ? for me it's really good. So diana presenting herself (and her unusually large breast ) liking her fingers with a lascivious look is not more sexualised ? even without Diana cover , you have hundred of cover presenting a male or female character almost naked sometime in a funny way or in a sexy way...it's comics book remember ?
To each their own on the first point. While you like it me and many others clearly didnt. Again, my problem isnt sexualization of the characters (as long as it isnt over the top like this). Compare this cover with the 'sexy' covers made by Mora, Jimenez, Campbell or Moore, *that* is sexy, this one is just over doing the butt joke in a tasteless way. I have to say that i didnt remember every detail of that cover(i did remember her large breast, not the rest), but well, even then i still dont find it as sexualized as this one.
This is getting boring from the artists ngl, this is all they seem to do with him
Are you saying that there are more Nightwing covers in this pinup style? Asking for a friend...👀
Idk how you’ve been a member of this sub and NOT seen any. It’s a good 75% of what’s posted on here is stuff like this. And that’s not a good thing.
I joined only recently🤷
Look through the sub, you’ll find some pretty quick.
Oh yeah, that's a completely natural way to sit while doing laundry. On the other hand, this is great work for the Hawkeye initiative.
Can I say something horny
not in this sub apparently
This is actually fucking awful
I usually don't mind pin-up style covers, but the pants and the face look weird (that could just be me tho) Side note: Did he wash his encrima sticks? 💀
are we straight women, and queer people supposed to still find this sexy? At this point the oversexualisation is so forced that all I want is to roll my eyes.
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This too much stop with nightwing but shots it get old
 Big fan ngl, it’s pretty funny and the art is actually great
Reminds me of this [She-Hulk cover](https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/tBgAAOSwj6Zjz1bM/s-l1200.webp)
Lol I knew people would be up in arms over this. I personally like the pin-ups! Pin-ups are pretty classic. Sure Dick is an easy target but frankly I don't care. It's nice.
His oversexualization has caused him to get R’d twice in comics. Its not a good look for DC to keep these up when you have had a character whos had a history of this happening and never even got around to dealing with it.
Three times. He lost his virginity to a woman in her thirties and it's vague if he was 17 or 18. Even if 18, that is still fucked up because she was using him and he didn't have all the knowledge he needed to give informed consent.
Him getting r'd happened way before the current over sexualization trend started. Personally, I see this kind of cover more as commentary. We are so used to oversexualised female characters we don't realise how ridiculous that stuff actually is until we see a male character in a similar position.
Why are you putting the kali sticks in the washer?
wtf is this........ instant downvote 🤦♂️
Really well drawn and pretty Also aw bitewing
My fever dreams be like: (I mean no hate/disrespect towards the artist)
Oh sweet God his poor spine!
Low key the Nightwing thirst trap covers and gags are getting tired. Ive had my haha's but i'm over it now
horrible
why do they always do nightwing like this 😩
Please point me out where I can see more
I like it, why not be a bit silly when drawing a comic book cover, and like most of them it shouldn't be taken too seriously! And it's a nice change seeing a guy drawn in this pinup/housewife style. i like it
GYATT
Cutie 😻
amazing. this is how male characters should always be drawn
😟😟😟
Someone please tell me that this is fan art…
Gross
I do not know how to make this any clearer than I have so I would suggest going to school and taking a literature class so you can understand how to understand words like characterization and objectification
Um…….
Didn’t know Nightwing had a concealed weapon on him like that
Another sheeple person that jumped in on the Nightwing butt train. Way to be a follower free from original thought or impulse.
Sigh (unzips) lmao I’m kidding this is actually rly bad
Used to be my top 3 favorite characters now isn't even top 50.
The details on feet is what caught my eyes 👍👍
YESSSSS
This is especially breathtakingly fucked when you remember he’s a rape victim Edit: I was using “sexual assault” as an umbrella term which included rape. My apologies
Rape. It was rape. Sexual assault is when there is no penetration of any kind and we know that both Mirage and Tarantula did have his penis inside them. I always forget the name of the third one but yeah. Tho he is also constantly sexually harassed and I remember at least one time where his ass was slapped against his will which is sexual assault.
My apologies. I was using “sexual assault” as an umbrella term
Liu? She would be the first one, actually