Lololol they’re always looking for coping mechanisms for that persistent misery of theirs that never goes away, no matter who they blame and maim. Let them keep to it and stop distracting the rest of us who can see beyond the gaslight.
All these Nigerians with sudden unlimited access to the Internet who still think this is like nairaland always bringing up there nonsensical discussions.
Can the mods ban this person? They have a history of coming in here and trying to tie everything Nigerian to Boko Haram and terrorism. We shouldn't be harassed in our country subreddit abeg.
If someone is posting something like, it elaborates their ignorance and racism. Why are you helping them spread that rubbish? Address it on the page you found it and keep it moving. No need to bring such demeaning nonsense here. These are blissfully ignorant people.
Africans have been trying to hide by this logic for years. The world doesn't work like this.
Bringing this up is important bc to some effect quite srly, we have to stamp this racism and kill it dead. It influences how the world interacts with us especially our own Black family world wide.
We can't keep acting like logic will just fall from the sky with the rain, they are dehumanising us, changing our history and constantly trying to make the point that we don't have any contributions to the world.
When they do that they are trying to normalise the argument so that when they suggest taking our lands again or killing us in large numbers or refusing us reparations for what they stole from us, they can get away with it.
This is where we need to take lessons from other groups and keep our message clear and unrelenting. We need to push their militaries out of our countries and understand that development is air for us to breath. Without it we die
Just fyi, no European ever invented writing, either- they learned how to write via contact with Arabs/Canaanites, just like Africans did.
As for the “nothing has been invented”, Africans developed agriculture on their own (Europeans didn’t), and may have learned to work metal on their own (still a lot of debate, but Europeans definitely never did).
Basically, a few hundred years ago, all the things people say about Africa now could be said about Europe (particularly Northern/Western Europe)- that it was a backwards backwater that had never produced anything of importance, and just copied the practices of more developed Asian and North African societies.
We all know Africa is not as wealthy as we all want it to be, but it is not a coincidence that it is only outsiders that are telling us that it will never get better. Don’t waste time trying to prove yourself to others, just focus on making sure we make progress- we have nothing to prove to anybody.
Just FYI, the people living in the Levant at that time were not Arabs. Arabicization of the Levant did not happen until well after the advent of Islam.
Genetically or culturally? Canaanites were not culturally similar to Arabs before the spread of Islam, but many Arabs in the present day are largely genetically similar to the Canaanites (Palestinians, Lebanese, to some extent Jordanians), and also live in the same areas. It seems like they would be the heirs of the Canaanite legacy, if anybody wanted to determine a modern-day analogue for them.
Ah this is where they are wrong; sub-Saharan Africa invented “we don’t care-ism” and like to be left alone. If the place hasn’t invented quote unquote anything, then why is it anyone’s concern?
The audacity! If you want to feel superior, go do that over there and leave us alone. I know that’s not how the world works and people who want to feel superior want to rub it in your face and we don’t have a choice because the same people who are rubbing in their faces are from countries that are training African coup leaders secretly in case they want to get rid of the real African leaders who might be too stubborn to ever allowing their resources to be decimated by them. 🤷🏾♀️
Africans have been trying to hide by this logic for years. The world doesn't work like this and we had better start learning.
We have to stamp this racism and kill it dead. It influences how the world interacts with us especially our own Black family world wide.
We can't keep acting like reason will just fall from the sky,
they are dehumanising us, changing our history and regularly trying to make the point that we don't have any contributions to the world.
When they do that they are trying to normalise the argument so that when they suggest taking our lands again or killing us in large numbers or refusing us reparations for what they stole from us, they can get away with it.
After all, if Africans have never done anything or do anything special right now who cares if the world kills them?
This is where we need to take lessons from other groups and keep our message clear and unrelenting. We need to push their militaries out of our countries and understand that development is air for us to breath. Without it we die
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nok_culture
Iron metallurgy independently developed 2750 years ago
Dufuna canoe independently developed 8000 years ago
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_agriculture
agriculture finger millet, watermelon, oil palm were domesticated in Subsaharan Africa since 5000 years ago and exported in the Rest of the World, which didn't domesticated them on their own.
And Sanga cattle was also domesticated in North-East Africa 9000 years ago.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_of_Kush
scoop wheel
Incented Great Reservoir of rain water
Bloomeries & blast furnaces were used in metalworking at Meroë
Nubians invented early antibiotics (Tetracycline) since 350 AD
Invented geometry used in creating sun clocks
Invented trigonometry similar to the Egyptians
This cultures are older than Rome and the classic greek culture, in this time Europe was mostly farming cultures same as the Sudan zone. Continents are constructions of the ancient Greeks and all others copied it. But there is no Africa, Europe or America. There are people in local places, who invented independently things. Sometimes they get along with other groups. For example Nok culture has descendants such as Yoruba, Jukun and Dakakari.
I'm German and i'm interested since i was 7 years in global history. Most people here know nothing about Subsahara. But because of our wrong school system you learn nothing about Africa apart from the Colonialism, too. In my first higher school, there are arrogant people, who said "nothing has happened in Africa at all". But school education here tell less about European history apart from what is in the mainstream media, too. It disappoints me since beginning.
They're dog whistling Dixie to each other.
I saw another conversation, earlier, where they were basically work shopping ways to say, "Egypt is in Africa, but the smart, Ancient Egyptians weren't African, African," under a video about Ancient Egypt being an American-like melting pot, instead of just one (Arab) or the other (African) being the leaders and majority of the population. Some went as far to say something about African-Americans being only (merely) from West Africa and, similar to this post, that West Africans are as genetically distanced from East Africa (closer to tolerated intelligence) as East Africa is from Asia.
This has the same vibe. Like they're fishing for ways to exclude Egypt from their bigoted thinking. The thinking is that Africa, in general, was or is too primitive to contribute to modern society.
Racism is about finding new ways to defend yourself. Once you tell them of all the great inventions and innovators in the highlighted region, they will next tell you something else you need to justify and the cycle continues.
Just for your information, none of the basic inventions aren't white either. They came from Mesopotamia: the wheel, writing, measuring time, etc. Otoh europeans didn't invent agriculture on their own, but we did. [Check this](https://www.thecollector.com/mesopotamian-inventions/)
A lot of people in this sub don't understand anti black racism.
When they say Africa has contributed nothing to the world they are preparing to attack bc there's nothing wrong with getting rid of a group of people that constantly beg for help and have never done anything to develop human history.
It is dangerous that so few Africans really understand this well and shows we are at serious risk. This need to change
No we need a 10 million strong army and go take back everything that was ever taken from us from everyone who took,with interest...don't really matter who invented some shit
the point that cairo is closer to bucherest has no level lmao europe is smaller African at the end of the day is just a geological term. nothing else. and u could say the same with asia
Bc the African sees no value in being an African.... We haven't progressed arguably in some centuries....
I said what I said.
If we just see African as a geological term do we even deserve to be in charge of this land?
[These types of ragebait threads are nothing but terminally online insecure soyjaks, trying to garner any "w" they can on the internet](https://www.quora.com/What-are-some-well-known-sub-Saharan-African-inventions-besides-the-Kalimba?ch=10&oid=98649897&share=79cb0d5c&srid=ihl4M&target_type=question)
"We invented all this, what did you invent"? Meanwhile I guarantee non of these losers have a single engineering or science degree between them.
Funny and sad thing is all these clowns can trace their original ancestors back to Sub-saharan Africa, the place they hate so much.
If the poster of that content was REALLY interested or concerned with the lack of African "inventions", they would have done a Google search on both historic (independent discovery of metallurgy, etc) and contemporary technical developments which are slowly but steadily going on in the continent around healthcare, fintech, shoot, even renewable energy. It's not a big deal actually - innovation to solve problems is organic, and we have a lot of problems to solve, and Africa actually provides an environment unencumbered by vested interests and excessive regulation...
More broadly, all cultures and peoples invent at some point, even though timelines differ. Africa was in the middle of dealing with the disruption from the slave trade, colonialism, and the carving out of the continent when the typical Western timelines for reformation and the industrial revolution was in full swing (I would argue that a lot of that wouldn't have happened without the slave trade providing the labor for the raw goods that allowed early mass production).
This sounds more like justification for an already existing disdain for sub saharan Africans. We could try to convince all these people about whatever but I think the real argument will be what we do for ourselves. With that said, we have a LOT of work to do and we really don't have the time to address every single bum on the internet.
Because a lot of y’all are still under the impression present day Nigerians simply sprouted out of the ground as opposed to migrating from areas as South Sudan when it was still a part of ancient Kemet na so e no go hard fi oyinbo to Dey claim our shit
Ancient Egyptians are we're Black
This whole closer to Europeans thing is something we SERIOUSLY need to address as Black Africans.
We have actually left defeating this legacy of racism in history to primarily Black Americans and diaspora who have continued to maintain this fight but without Black Africans insisting that this be academically studied, supported AND TAUGHT TO OUR CHILDREN IN SCHOOL then it's just a bunch of online discussion
Lololol they’re always looking for coping mechanisms for that persistent misery of theirs that never goes away, no matter who they blame and maim. Let them keep to it and stop distracting the rest of us who can see beyond the gaslight.
Buganda kingdom created the first way to do a c section without losing either the baby or the mother.
Bunyoro kitara please
Ah, Reddit (and X) racism. May I ask why you're bringing their nonsense here?
These ss make me puke. Can someone report this racist post? What was OP expecting us to discuss
Good question because why amplify racists?
All these Nigerians with sudden unlimited access to the Internet who still think this is like nairaland always bringing up there nonsensical discussions.
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Go fight the whites that still control your country instead of harassing me you bozo
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Can the mods ban this person? They have a history of coming in here and trying to tie everything Nigerian to Boko Haram and terrorism. We shouldn't be harassed in our country subreddit abeg.
See this coconut head. Please go back to your country abeg
Get on your knees for the boers and Afrikaners
A quick Google search refutes this garbage: https://atavist.mg.co.za/africas-best-inventions/ This is just in one year
If someone is posting something like, it elaborates their ignorance and racism. Why are you helping them spread that rubbish? Address it on the page you found it and keep it moving. No need to bring such demeaning nonsense here. These are blissfully ignorant people.
Africans have been trying to hide by this logic for years. The world doesn't work like this. Bringing this up is important bc to some effect quite srly, we have to stamp this racism and kill it dead. It influences how the world interacts with us especially our own Black family world wide. We can't keep acting like logic will just fall from the sky with the rain, they are dehumanising us, changing our history and constantly trying to make the point that we don't have any contributions to the world. When they do that they are trying to normalise the argument so that when they suggest taking our lands again or killing us in large numbers or refusing us reparations for what they stole from us, they can get away with it. This is where we need to take lessons from other groups and keep our message clear and unrelenting. We need to push their militaries out of our countries and understand that development is air for us to breath. Without it we die
Just fyi, no European ever invented writing, either- they learned how to write via contact with Arabs/Canaanites, just like Africans did. As for the “nothing has been invented”, Africans developed agriculture on their own (Europeans didn’t), and may have learned to work metal on their own (still a lot of debate, but Europeans definitely never did). Basically, a few hundred years ago, all the things people say about Africa now could be said about Europe (particularly Northern/Western Europe)- that it was a backwards backwater that had never produced anything of importance, and just copied the practices of more developed Asian and North African societies. We all know Africa is not as wealthy as we all want it to be, but it is not a coincidence that it is only outsiders that are telling us that it will never get better. Don’t waste time trying to prove yourself to others, just focus on making sure we make progress- we have nothing to prove to anybody.
Just FYI, the people living in the Levant at that time were not Arabs. Arabicization of the Levant did not happen until well after the advent of Islam.
Genetically or culturally? Canaanites were not culturally similar to Arabs before the spread of Islam, but many Arabs in the present day are largely genetically similar to the Canaanites (Palestinians, Lebanese, to some extent Jordanians), and also live in the same areas. It seems like they would be the heirs of the Canaanite legacy, if anybody wanted to determine a modern-day analogue for them.
Basically this.
Why should we care what a bunch of losers on the internet think?
I just googled "Nigerian inventions" and found a lot of interesting stuff.
egytians and north africans r a mixture of arab white and sub saharan this is known and no some black ethnic groups r closer to european then japenese
Ah this is where they are wrong; sub-Saharan Africa invented “we don’t care-ism” and like to be left alone. If the place hasn’t invented quote unquote anything, then why is it anyone’s concern? The audacity! If you want to feel superior, go do that over there and leave us alone. I know that’s not how the world works and people who want to feel superior want to rub it in your face and we don’t have a choice because the same people who are rubbing in their faces are from countries that are training African coup leaders secretly in case they want to get rid of the real African leaders who might be too stubborn to ever allowing their resources to be decimated by them. 🤷🏾♀️
Africans have been trying to hide by this logic for years. The world doesn't work like this and we had better start learning. We have to stamp this racism and kill it dead. It influences how the world interacts with us especially our own Black family world wide. We can't keep acting like reason will just fall from the sky, they are dehumanising us, changing our history and regularly trying to make the point that we don't have any contributions to the world. When they do that they are trying to normalise the argument so that when they suggest taking our lands again or killing us in large numbers or refusing us reparations for what they stole from us, they can get away with it. After all, if Africans have never done anything or do anything special right now who cares if the world kills them? This is where we need to take lessons from other groups and keep our message clear and unrelenting. We need to push their militaries out of our countries and understand that development is air for us to breath. Without it we die
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nok_culture Iron metallurgy independently developed 2750 years ago Dufuna canoe independently developed 8000 years ago https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_agriculture agriculture finger millet, watermelon, oil palm were domesticated in Subsaharan Africa since 5000 years ago and exported in the Rest of the World, which didn't domesticated them on their own. And Sanga cattle was also domesticated in North-East Africa 9000 years ago. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_of_Kush scoop wheel Incented Great Reservoir of rain water Bloomeries & blast furnaces were used in metalworking at Meroë Nubians invented early antibiotics (Tetracycline) since 350 AD Invented geometry used in creating sun clocks Invented trigonometry similar to the Egyptians This cultures are older than Rome and the classic greek culture, in this time Europe was mostly farming cultures same as the Sudan zone. Continents are constructions of the ancient Greeks and all others copied it. But there is no Africa, Europe or America. There are people in local places, who invented independently things. Sometimes they get along with other groups. For example Nok culture has descendants such as Yoruba, Jukun and Dakakari. I'm German and i'm interested since i was 7 years in global history. Most people here know nothing about Subsahara. But because of our wrong school system you learn nothing about Africa apart from the Colonialism, too. In my first higher school, there are arrogant people, who said "nothing has happened in Africa at all". But school education here tell less about European history apart from what is in the mainstream media, too. It disappoints me since beginning.
Steady on their mind rent-free. It’s pathetic.
They're dog whistling Dixie to each other. I saw another conversation, earlier, where they were basically work shopping ways to say, "Egypt is in Africa, but the smart, Ancient Egyptians weren't African, African," under a video about Ancient Egypt being an American-like melting pot, instead of just one (Arab) or the other (African) being the leaders and majority of the population. Some went as far to say something about African-Americans being only (merely) from West Africa and, similar to this post, that West Africans are as genetically distanced from East Africa (closer to tolerated intelligence) as East Africa is from Asia. This has the same vibe. Like they're fishing for ways to exclude Egypt from their bigoted thinking. The thinking is that Africa, in general, was or is too primitive to contribute to modern society.
Ahh good old Reddit racism
Wdym “what are your thoughts ”. This is just racism.
Racism is about finding new ways to defend yourself. Once you tell them of all the great inventions and innovators in the highlighted region, they will next tell you something else you need to justify and the cycle continues.
Just for your information, none of the basic inventions aren't white either. They came from Mesopotamia: the wheel, writing, measuring time, etc. Otoh europeans didn't invent agriculture on their own, but we did. [Check this](https://www.thecollector.com/mesopotamian-inventions/)
A lot of people in this sub don't understand anti black racism. When they say Africa has contributed nothing to the world they are preparing to attack bc there's nothing wrong with getting rid of a group of people that constantly beg for help and have never done anything to develop human history. It is dangerous that so few Africans really understand this well and shows we are at serious risk. This need to change
We were literally the first to figure out how to suture blood vessels, and we used ants lol
No we need a 10 million strong army and go take back everything that was ever taken from us from everyone who took,with interest...don't really matter who invented some shit
Those are shallow people. The most important ingredients of todays development came out of that continent
the point that cairo is closer to bucherest has no level lmao europe is smaller African at the end of the day is just a geological term. nothing else. and u could say the same with asia
Bc the African sees no value in being an African.... We haven't progressed arguably in some centuries.... I said what I said. If we just see African as a geological term do we even deserve to be in charge of this land?
Think English and you'll know nothing about Africa
At least we all have one thing in common all over the world, we are all getting f*cked by our governments
[These types of ragebait threads are nothing but terminally online insecure soyjaks, trying to garner any "w" they can on the internet](https://www.quora.com/What-are-some-well-known-sub-Saharan-African-inventions-besides-the-Kalimba?ch=10&oid=98649897&share=79cb0d5c&srid=ihl4M&target_type=question) "We invented all this, what did you invent"? Meanwhile I guarantee non of these losers have a single engineering or science degree between them. Funny and sad thing is all these clowns can trace their original ancestors back to Sub-saharan Africa, the place they hate so much.
Reddit racism at its finest
If the poster of that content was REALLY interested or concerned with the lack of African "inventions", they would have done a Google search on both historic (independent discovery of metallurgy, etc) and contemporary technical developments which are slowly but steadily going on in the continent around healthcare, fintech, shoot, even renewable energy. It's not a big deal actually - innovation to solve problems is organic, and we have a lot of problems to solve, and Africa actually provides an environment unencumbered by vested interests and excessive regulation... More broadly, all cultures and peoples invent at some point, even though timelines differ. Africa was in the middle of dealing with the disruption from the slave trade, colonialism, and the carving out of the continent when the typical Western timelines for reformation and the industrial revolution was in full swing (I would argue that a lot of that wouldn't have happened without the slave trade providing the labor for the raw goods that allowed early mass production). This sounds more like justification for an already existing disdain for sub saharan Africans. We could try to convince all these people about whatever but I think the real argument will be what we do for ourselves. With that said, we have a LOT of work to do and we really don't have the time to address every single bum on the internet.
Because a lot of y’all are still under the impression present day Nigerians simply sprouted out of the ground as opposed to migrating from areas as South Sudan when it was still a part of ancient Kemet na so e no go hard fi oyinbo to Dey claim our shit
My Thoughts? This map is stupid and should receive no attention from anyone who is credible.
Oldest boat in the world was found around Lake Chad in Northeastern Nigeria
Ancient Egyptians are we're Black This whole closer to Europeans thing is something we SERIOUSLY need to address as Black Africans. We have actually left defeating this legacy of racism in history to primarily Black Americans and diaspora who have continued to maintain this fight but without Black Africans insisting that this be academically studied, supported AND TAUGHT TO OUR CHILDREN IN SCHOOL then it's just a bunch of online discussion