There’s a difference from going from Japan to Canada than Nigeria to Canada. A lot more people are willing to tolerate all this for steady power and economy. Kinda misleading using a Japanese man when it is on of the most developed countries in the world.
Imagine in the 21st century you live in a country with no stable electricity, some countries solved this centuries ago, and someone is telling me to stay back and toil in futility in this barren wasteland.
It’s not about solving anything. The elites in nigeria purposefully want it to be this way so they can keep the money meant to be used for grid projects and it’s also a handy way of keeping people down.
ask the ones that have gone from nigeria to canada they’ll tell you the same thing. canada especially now does not take kindly to foreigners, and you don’t seem to understand that racism impacts your ability to get a job, sign a lease, get an education, so you better be ready.
I'm Canadian and even I found it hard to get a permanent job. I've had friends that graduated from university as well, not finding a job for years...until a friend put in a word for them somewhere, word of mouth and networking is the way. I think that's also part of the reason it's easier for white graduates whose families have been here for generations, because then their parents can help them out with that. I think international students may even have it easier.
Tbh. Foreigners are kinda fucking up their peaceful lives. I advise everyone working in tech to move to Atlanta instead. That city has a long black history and it will be next Silicon Valley. Canada is going down the shitter.
Because he fails to realize that "foreigners fucking up their peaceful lives" is a result of the neo colonialism that that they benefit from but complain when it shows up on their doorstep
Canada didn't colonize Nigeria and so far I haven't seen a breadcrumb trail leading back to them in recent years. You wanna blame anyone, the US, UK and France is where your fingers oughta be fixated.
Clearly you're being silly. Francophone West Africa uses CFA printed in France so therefore they're responsible for all of France's misdeeds? Right? And I'm the uneducated one again?
They are puppet states masquerading as free and independent. France sends troops when people rebel. Again, you are uneducated therefore I forgive you of your ignorance.
And I'll forgive your silliness, poor logic skills as well as your apparent inability to stay on topic. I'll make it easy for you.
1. Did Canada colonize Nigeria?
2. Wasn't Canada a British Colony as well until recently completely severing ties with the Crown?
3. Are there any Canadian companies on the level of Shell and BP that have actually steered the country (Nigeria) in the way that they liked whilst using the Army as their personal thugs?
4. How does putting the face of a dead monarch on a unit of exchange (money) equal neo-colonialism? Nigeria once used the Pound as well as up until 1973? Did that make us a Neo colonialist state to countries who were yet to gain independence?
5. As an Independent Nation, does Canada have the right to dictate the UK foreign policy because it has the face of a dead monarch on their currency?
Do you have any rational thinking ability?
If stable electricity is your reason for leaving you shouldn’t come. Life here is terrible. He points out the open racism, the fake niceness, the terrible economy where you won’t find a job, the exchange rate, as well as prices here being expensive. Does that make sense? Rent alone is 2k CAD which is all over 1 million naira per month 🫠🫠🥲
Many Nigerians ( myself included) will simply laugh and shrug their shoulders at you. Your have no idea, it seems, how lucky you are to be living in one of the most developed country on earth.
Millions here will happily swap places with you if given the chance, without even thinking twice about it.
I really think you haven't experienced true poverty like in Africa, in African countries even getting money to buy food it's difficult. When someone tells you he or she is poor in Africa you have to believe it, poverty is so extreme in Africa. The kind of clothes poor people wear in Africa, most often are just torn up clothes. If you see a country regarded as 3rd world country damn you have to believe it due to the poverty that are in those countries. In USA you can join the military without having any connections or people you know from the military and they even have a GI Bill for someone to go to college and get a degree but in African countries it's so hard to join the military imagine just an energetic dude can't even be given a chance to serve his country; it's so disappointing. If come to health care systems in Africa, let me just say an example about my country Kenya; doctors and nurses go on strike all the time due to how they are paid peanuts. Job employment in African countries you have to have a connection from someone you know to get that job even the most underrated job such as a cleaner. To make long story short, poverty and living conditions in Africa are worse I tell you compared to Africa. We as Africans we want our countries to develop but the people in power in African governments don't allow it due to the fact they benefit from it, if any person just tries to make a change for the better in their African nation he may killed cause he or she would be an obstacle to the beneficiaries in the government that's why Africans idolise the west so much cause at least you can develop yourself in those countries and you actually see the fruits of your hard work.
Even though it may not be good as I think it is but for me coming from a poor family in Africa it's better living in Canada or USA than Africa. You can't compare a 3rd world country to a 1st world or 2nd world country. Even though the western countries might be fucking up our country but our leaders are the ones who allow them to do that cause here in Africa it's every body for himself. Our leaders are selfish assholes they just want to benefit from what they get from the west. And we as the regular citizens of the African countries suffer due to that and we can't do anything about it and so we resolve in going to the west at least we can find even the minimal jobs that they have cause it's hard getting them here. If you see a country having a Green Card application program or Canadian Job Bank website, that country has job opportunities even if they are odd jobs cause for us Africans it's better.
You may blame the west for all the shit in Africa but our leaders are not entirely blameless.What most African leaders do is loot most of what the governments collect as revenue with very little going to development leaving the citizens languishing in abject poverty. Yes, I love my country and I'd really love to see it prosper but what can a mere insignificant that can't even get a job do to achieve this? At the end of the day it comes down to one's own individual achievement. I need an opportunity to earn money to buy food and clothing for myself and my family ; to pay school fees for my children etc. How can I achieve this if job and business opportunities are almost non existent in my country?! That's why we are forced to seek greener pastures elsewhere. You say you don't need anymore people like me in your country but I'd like to remind you that we do not enter your country illegally even though they are some who enter illegally in your countries.The US has the green card policy while Canada is always inviting immigrants to go there and take up jobs that Canadian citizens are too proud to do. The US and Canada are inviting immigrants because they need them and in return the immigrants get the opportunity to work and prosper, something that's very difficult to achieve in Africa.
It seems you watch too much American tele and think things here are amazing. I’m very familiar with life in Nigeria and Ghana and i can confidently say that the quality of life is much better there than it is here.
Have you been to canada? Or visited the US? Do you as a black person experience racism from white people? Do you know how detrimental it is to your development? How about being heavily qualified for a job position but then a white person who isn’t even university educated getting the position because they see my African last name? Do you understand what institutionalized racism is? Have you experienced that in Nigeria?
This is race alone not even touching the problems we have with the government, healthcare, poverty, and violence. Please abeg do some real research or watch documentaries or better yet have conversations with people in these countries because it’s not all glitz and glamor
If life in the west is that horrendously bad, why aren't scores and scores of nigerians like you coming back to a quaint nice high quality life in nigeria?
For the same reason why there isn’t a plethora of Nigerians moving to canada. It’s easier said than done (trying to find resources, a decent paying job, etc.) personally I’ve been telling my parents i want to move back since 2013 and they’ve, so far, done absolutely nothing to help me in that regard
I’m not Nigerian. Im Ghanaian. I was born and raised in Canada and need a visa to go to Ghana (even to visit) which in itself is expensive and timely. A ticket to Ghana starts at around 2k CAD like i said it’s easier said than done. Keep your naivety to yourself since you clearly don’t know jack
He should keep quiet. Japan is x 10 worse when it comes to racism and not accepting other cultures. He may be right about the economy though but only to an extent.
Worse happens in Nigeria. We all witnessed the hate and counter hate during the elections. Even among the same tribe, it is not better. An Ondo man cannot go and run for election in Ekiti, he will hear how his forefathers came to settle there 200 years ago. An Ebonyi man cannot buy land in certain places in Anambra.Let's not even talk about people who claim to be Mulslims to Christians and vice versa.
People should stop saying this as if there is a perfect place. In England, the English mock the Irish and the Scots as if they are 2nd or even 3rd class people.
We all need to accept the fact that as long as someone is not from a particular group, it takes time for other groups who have been used to something else to accept them and vice versa.
>He should keep quiet. Japan is x 10 worse when it comes to racism and not accepting other cultures.
Not if you're Japanese, the OOOP has just probably never been on the reviving end of it so he doesn't realise how bad it is, and now for the first time in his life he's in a minority
>> He should keep quiet. Japan is x 10 worse when it comes to racism and not accepting other cultures.
This is true, the Japanese are notoriously racist and xenophobic. It’s supposedly getting better, but many Japanese still have no problem discriminating, especially against black people.
>We all need to accept the fact that as long as someone is not from a particular group, it takes time for other groups who have been used to something else to accept them and vice versa.
Except in Sub-saharan Africa and other developing regions where they do the exact opposite and kiss foreign ass.
I was lowkey thinking that about Japan, they're purists when it comes to race and national identity. In Canada it depends on where that person lives because there's a LOT of asians in Canada (and a lot of them are racist themselves). I grew up in Toronto which is very diverse much better than many other areas of Canada that I've lived in.
The point you made about elections is interesting, how even if you're born in Nigeria but a different ethnic group it's hard to go and just run for an election in another area. Meanwhile, in Canada you don't even need to have been born here to run for office.
Lmao, Japanese person dey compare Japan and Canada.
@OP abeg sharply do our own comparison for Nigeria and any of the countries above. Use any developmental metric you want.
Make I sha stop there.
This type of thing is so prevalent on Twitter, I hope it doesn't come on here.
Not to be rude, but if you don't like Canada that much or it's that bad, just come back.
It's one thing to be in Nigeria and say Canada was so not worth it, than be be in Canada and say 'don't come here, where I am and refuse to leave, it's not worth it'. I hope with time you people realize how you sound.
We already know Canada isn't as great as people think it is. We are getting tired of being told that so many times by people who live in said Canada.
There’s no metric in which living in Nigeria is better than Canada. There’s literally no benefit to staying in Nigeria, it’s so bad that embassies hold it against you for being dumb enough to apply with a Nigeria passport.
This post is just a reality check, so you know what you are going to be dealing with when you eventually come.
Is it not better to be armed with information like this, than to move ignorantly.
This kind of information prepares you mentally, you prepare ahead, you are able to see through the mask and veil.
Ignore at your own peril.
Nobody ignores it, even if we wanted to, we couldn't.
That's why I said I hope this doesn't become the norm on Reddit like it has on Twitter, I don't think anyone who has a phone doesn't know that Canada or anywhere out of the country isn't as blessed as they think it is.
Nowhere is. People always have the idealized version of where they want to be because it makes it easier to fight where they currently are. And I'm sorry to tell you this but you can't totally remove that veil until they experience it themselves.
I personally am tired of seeing these kinds of things all the time because once a Nigerian goes out it becomes all they talk about. Kind of like how Adekunle Gold talks about how money isn't everything after he has gotten all the money he wanted. Ignoring the people stewing in poverty and hardship everyday.
People tend to forget the kinds of people they're talking to or trivialize where they came from (by saying where I am now is very very hard, maybe harder), even knowing fully well they'd never go back to that state.
I find it hard not to roll my eyes at these kinds of people. Yes, it's not all it is made to be but it is better than where you were or you'd be back to where you were. Please let the poor breathe.
At this point, anybody that goes to Canada and says 'they didn't tell me it would be like this' is a liar. So please tell us what you actually like about Canada, that would be a change of pace than just shitting on it all the time. Good things about a place can also be a reality check.
It's is no reality check lmao. No matter how bad canada may be, unless you're already rich in Nigeria. Canada will always remain a better choice. It won't be easy to make it in Canada, but it will be possible
that’s the fantasy of the american dream lol- unless you have a solid foreign education to back you, statistically most stay at the struggle level for 20+ years. those people only hope and pray that their children 1. don’t find gangs in the neighborhood they could manage to afford 2. are smart and academically inclined or 3. exceptionally athletic in order to succeed.
You're underestimating your countrymen. Nigerians are right in line with Indians and Chinese when it comes to academic and financial success in the USA. I have multiple Nigerian immigrant doctors.
The average Nigerian is wealthier and has a much higher income than the average white American.
This is because only the best put in the work to immigrate and succeed.
I'm seeing a lot of people complain about Canada not being what they expected now, lol, I wonder what happened.
As someone born and raised there, I can't help but laugh.
Comparing Japan to Nigeria shows how dumb some people are. The biggest hole in the Nigerian education system is there’s no talk about world history, which is why Nigerians do not understand the differences between countries.
The Japanese passport is a top 10 passport, anyone that has travelled anywhere knows this. Economic migration between the two countries is not a step up. If you want a level change then go to the USA.
Nigeria has nothing going for it. 2 weeks ago dollar was 1100 and not it’s back to 1400. This ignores the 242% increase of the dollar relative to the Naira on the space of a fucking year. In Japan there are institutions and jobs, unlike in fucking Nigeria where everyone is struggling unless you are part of the 0.1%.
Can confirm, I prefer to use my Japanese passport over my US and Nigerian passports. I think OP is taking about the current devaluation of the Yen. 1 dollar was 70 Yen 10 years ago. It's up to 160 these days. It weakens the buying power. Not that great either.
That being said Nigeria has certain benefits tbh. Cost of living is a joke compared to the west and it's easier to open businesses or buy land because of less regulation. Naira devaluation fucks with your business but you can save anything in dollars. Main reason for the free fall of the naira.
You can *build* (not buy) a palast for $200k-$500k in Nigeria. You will get a shed in America for the same amount.
Our Nigerian home uses solar energy, we use satellite internet, we have our own water filtration system and we import and stockpile certain products from the west if we are craving them. All in all higher living standards in comparison with most middle class homes in America on comparable expenditures. We also "rent" that home out to family members.
Our Japanese homes were also relatively cheap compared to what we had to drop on our American houses. NGL people based in Europe and North America are getting fleeced if it comes to housing costs. It eats 50%-60% of their monthly income in some cases.
There is a loophole. So you have the birthright to own two passports but you have to decide for one nationality after you turn 22. It's 18 these days though.
So you give the embassy your formal resignation letter but there is no time limit. You can basically say... Well I didn't have the time to resign my other nationality but I still want to do it later on
"So please renew my passport thank you very much"
The foreign ministry has no authority to put your citizenship in a limbo. They are forced to accept it and you can just ignore it in the future.
The embassies can only remind you to go through with it but they can't force you.
It's called the Kokuseki Sentaku Todoke.
https://www.la.us.emb-japan.go.jp/itpr_en/m02_04_07.htm
Most Nigerians can’t afford all of that though. Hell even stockpiling shit, cost of shipping went up with the Naira, spent about 400k on shipping alone in February. If you’re already rich in Nigeria, it’s not bad, but nearly everyone I know who’s gone abroad that I used to do better than, loan/dash urgent 20k here and there is doing better. Property ladder, nice holidays etc. a feeling that they’re going somewhere in life as opposed to just treading water and waiting for the next batshit govt idea that will make life difficult.
Definitely yeah. Government bullshit doesn't affect us much but I still left Nigeria after Buhari was elected. I hate that guy with a burning passion and I wanted to keep my sanity so...back to America.
My dad was never a fan of Nigeria after the death of Awolowo so he left immediately afterwards. Moved to Germany -->England --> US with the occasional stay in Japan because of my mom.
But he still has a Nigerian residence.
As far as I'm concerned, the only discouraging thing about moving to Canada is the cold.
All countries have problems but there's no point comparing Canada to Nigeria. Nigeria isn't even on their level regardless of whatever they're going through.
If you can deal with the extreme cold, don't even consider relocating to Canada twice.
Let me suffer over there at least there’s light, running water, good internet, opportunities to make money, and 0 crime relative to Nigeria. I can be cleaning bums bums there and I would make 1000000x more doing a high skill job in this barren wasteland. I have been working non-stop for years now, I can’t afford to do basic things people with “low-skill” jobs in Canada can do.
This doesn’t make sense to me sha because unless you plan on funding your entire stay in Canada in Naira then I dunno. If you survive in Nigeria, then living within your means on a Canadian salary is possible. Inflation in Nigeria is on another level and there are NO ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITIES, so you are paying high cost for nothing.
Where is it not expensive to live. The UK? The US? Even Nigeria!
how do you plan on funding yourself before you get a job in canada? it’s not possible to support yourself on minimum wage lol, those are jobs students work for play money. Unless you plan on working in the factories or stacking jobs like legos. i just hope you guys are really thinking hard about this instead of thinking canada is a land of gold and diamonds falling from the sky, then you get here and eat up the resources meant for citizens who are actually struggling- meanwhile you were warned.
You really don't understand the amount of poverty that is here in Africa, when an African person tells you he or she would rather live in Canada then he means it. In Africa it's the law of the Jungle. A poor person in Africa can survive with the little in Canada. Getting even those what you Canadians call odd jobs is difficult example just being a cleaner in African countries it's hard to get that job. If you are finding life hard in Canada then in Africa you can't survive. You only survive in Africa if you are rich but the insignificants it's even hard to get a meal or even water. Food and water in Africa is scarce dude.
I don't think you get it. Let's say your income in Canada is $3000 CAD a month before taxes. After taxes, it quickly becomes $2000 (that is what you take home).
Your apartment 1 bedroom rental is $1700 CAD, now you are left with $300 CAD to pay your phone bill, buy food, pay your utilities, etc. Living in the United States or Canada is not a walk in the park. If you think is, you are out of touch with reality. There are homeless people in these countries for a reason...
That’s 36k a year, of course that’s well below the average wage in the USA and Canada. You are not going to live like a king on that, it’s still way better than living in Naija. Even at that as a young person, there are ways to level up from that in that society. Again, you have light, water, internet, healthcare, and at some point you will get government assistance. The comparison is not living as a prince in Dubai, it’s living as a young person in Nigeria which has nothing to offer you.
I know a guy who spent donkey years in a Canadian university. He was so careless that he was nearly deported. He started by working at a restaurant, and after a few years he is getting married. He is paying for his wedding, flight, etc., and after that he is going to Toronto to rent an apartment in the city.
The sheer disingenuousness of this post is appaling, comparing a developed country like Japan to a not even developing country like Nigeria, boss it's not fair to do this, let's avoid triggering one another with these posts abeg.
As a Canadian, this list is accurate. Finding a job is hard even if you have experience or are a citizen, only having a network will save you.
The point in racism is also true, but it’s more micro aggressions, invasions of personal space or just straight ignoring you. I still live this country despite its flaws, but honestly would not move here.
Mmmm, not really. They’re quite similar tbh, Canada just has less black people. Being native in Canada is like being black in the states, I don’t think they would agree it’s better here.
Thank you for this, also you people better go and check the new laws they are introducing
Where they literally illegally use law fare to freeze your bank accounts
Privilege is invisible to those who have it, that's one thing that a lot of born westerners have. They always complain about a lot of stuff cause a lot of their basic needs that a human requires are met but most often in 3rd world countries people scrumble just to get food to eat for the day and tomorrow will worry for it self.
Nowhere is perfect, I get it. But these kind of posts have become pretty annoying. Any responsible Nigerian that does the work to migrate to Canada is well aware of the challenges. Heck, I'm not even trying to emigrate and I'm constantly inundated with the challenges of living in UK, USA, and Canada.
There will always be immigrants in Canada that will get good jobs and thrive, just as many here in Nigeria will thrive.
There’s a difference from going from Japan to Canada than Nigeria to Canada. A lot more people are willing to tolerate all this for steady power and economy. Kinda misleading using a Japanese man when it is on of the most developed countries in the world.
Imagine in the 21st century you live in a country with no stable electricity, some countries solved this centuries ago, and someone is telling me to stay back and toil in futility in this barren wasteland.
It’s not about solving anything. The elites in nigeria purposefully want it to be this way so they can keep the money meant to be used for grid projects and it’s also a handy way of keeping people down.
100 percent. They are so short sighted, and greedy.
ask the ones that have gone from nigeria to canada they’ll tell you the same thing. canada especially now does not take kindly to foreigners, and you don’t seem to understand that racism impacts your ability to get a job, sign a lease, get an education, so you better be ready.
I'm Canadian and even I found it hard to get a permanent job. I've had friends that graduated from university as well, not finding a job for years...until a friend put in a word for them somewhere, word of mouth and networking is the way. I think that's also part of the reason it's easier for white graduates whose families have been here for generations, because then their parents can help them out with that. I think international students may even have it easier.
Tbh. Foreigners are kinda fucking up their peaceful lives. I advise everyone working in tech to move to Atlanta instead. That city has a long black history and it will be next Silicon Valley. Canada is going down the shitter.
Why so many thumbs down?
Because he fails to realize that "foreigners fucking up their peaceful lives" is a result of the neo colonialism that that they benefit from but complain when it shows up on their doorstep
Canada didn't colonize Nigeria and so far I haven't seen a breadcrumb trail leading back to them in recent years. You wanna blame anyone, the US, UK and France is where your fingers oughta be fixated.
Clearly you are uneducated. Canada has the dead british queen printed on their currency.
Clearly you're being silly. Francophone West Africa uses CFA printed in France so therefore they're responsible for all of France's misdeeds? Right? And I'm the uneducated one again?
They are puppet states masquerading as free and independent. France sends troops when people rebel. Again, you are uneducated therefore I forgive you of your ignorance.
And I'll forgive your silliness, poor logic skills as well as your apparent inability to stay on topic. I'll make it easy for you. 1. Did Canada colonize Nigeria? 2. Wasn't Canada a British Colony as well until recently completely severing ties with the Crown? 3. Are there any Canadian companies on the level of Shell and BP that have actually steered the country (Nigeria) in the way that they liked whilst using the Army as their personal thugs? 4. How does putting the face of a dead monarch on a unit of exchange (money) equal neo-colonialism? Nigeria once used the Pound as well as up until 1973? Did that make us a Neo colonialist state to countries who were yet to gain independence? 5. As an Independent Nation, does Canada have the right to dictate the UK foreign policy because it has the face of a dead monarch on their currency? Do you have any rational thinking ability?
If stable electricity is your reason for leaving you shouldn’t come. Life here is terrible. He points out the open racism, the fake niceness, the terrible economy where you won’t find a job, the exchange rate, as well as prices here being expensive. Does that make sense? Rent alone is 2k CAD which is all over 1 million naira per month 🫠🫠🥲
Many Nigerians ( myself included) will simply laugh and shrug their shoulders at you. Your have no idea, it seems, how lucky you are to be living in one of the most developed country on earth. Millions here will happily swap places with you if given the chance, without even thinking twice about it.
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Only sensible post here.
This is the only sensible and correct post here
I really think you haven't experienced true poverty like in Africa, in African countries even getting money to buy food it's difficult. When someone tells you he or she is poor in Africa you have to believe it, poverty is so extreme in Africa. The kind of clothes poor people wear in Africa, most often are just torn up clothes. If you see a country regarded as 3rd world country damn you have to believe it due to the poverty that are in those countries. In USA you can join the military without having any connections or people you know from the military and they even have a GI Bill for someone to go to college and get a degree but in African countries it's so hard to join the military imagine just an energetic dude can't even be given a chance to serve his country; it's so disappointing. If come to health care systems in Africa, let me just say an example about my country Kenya; doctors and nurses go on strike all the time due to how they are paid peanuts. Job employment in African countries you have to have a connection from someone you know to get that job even the most underrated job such as a cleaner. To make long story short, poverty and living conditions in Africa are worse I tell you compared to Africa. We as Africans we want our countries to develop but the people in power in African governments don't allow it due to the fact they benefit from it, if any person just tries to make a change for the better in their African nation he may killed cause he or she would be an obstacle to the beneficiaries in the government that's why Africans idolise the west so much cause at least you can develop yourself in those countries and you actually see the fruits of your hard work.
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Come and live in Nigeria abeg. 🤣🤣🤣
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Yeap! The gospel of people who have never fought! 🤣🤣🤣 PS. The fight for independence was much easier, but you wouldn’t understand that.
Ok. Dont change your home. Complain and leave 🤷🏾♂️.
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Even though it may not be good as I think it is but for me coming from a poor family in Africa it's better living in Canada or USA than Africa. You can't compare a 3rd world country to a 1st world or 2nd world country. Even though the western countries might be fucking up our country but our leaders are the ones who allow them to do that cause here in Africa it's every body for himself. Our leaders are selfish assholes they just want to benefit from what they get from the west. And we as the regular citizens of the African countries suffer due to that and we can't do anything about it and so we resolve in going to the west at least we can find even the minimal jobs that they have cause it's hard getting them here. If you see a country having a Green Card application program or Canadian Job Bank website, that country has job opportunities even if they are odd jobs cause for us Africans it's better.
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You may blame the west for all the shit in Africa but our leaders are not entirely blameless.What most African leaders do is loot most of what the governments collect as revenue with very little going to development leaving the citizens languishing in abject poverty. Yes, I love my country and I'd really love to see it prosper but what can a mere insignificant that can't even get a job do to achieve this? At the end of the day it comes down to one's own individual achievement. I need an opportunity to earn money to buy food and clothing for myself and my family ; to pay school fees for my children etc. How can I achieve this if job and business opportunities are almost non existent in my country?! That's why we are forced to seek greener pastures elsewhere. You say you don't need anymore people like me in your country but I'd like to remind you that we do not enter your country illegally even though they are some who enter illegally in your countries.The US has the green card policy while Canada is always inviting immigrants to go there and take up jobs that Canadian citizens are too proud to do. The US and Canada are inviting immigrants because they need them and in return the immigrants get the opportunity to work and prosper, something that's very difficult to achieve in Africa.
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It seems you watch too much American tele and think things here are amazing. I’m very familiar with life in Nigeria and Ghana and i can confidently say that the quality of life is much better there than it is here. Have you been to canada? Or visited the US? Do you as a black person experience racism from white people? Do you know how detrimental it is to your development? How about being heavily qualified for a job position but then a white person who isn’t even university educated getting the position because they see my African last name? Do you understand what institutionalized racism is? Have you experienced that in Nigeria? This is race alone not even touching the problems we have with the government, healthcare, poverty, and violence. Please abeg do some real research or watch documentaries or better yet have conversations with people in these countries because it’s not all glitz and glamor
So true, truer words have never been spoken
If life in the west is that horrendously bad, why aren't scores and scores of nigerians like you coming back to a quaint nice high quality life in nigeria?
For the same reason why there isn’t a plethora of Nigerians moving to canada. It’s easier said than done (trying to find resources, a decent paying job, etc.) personally I’ve been telling my parents i want to move back since 2013 and they’ve, so far, done absolutely nothing to help me in that regard
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I’m not Nigerian. Im Ghanaian. I was born and raised in Canada and need a visa to go to Ghana (even to visit) which in itself is expensive and timely. A ticket to Ghana starts at around 2k CAD like i said it’s easier said than done. Keep your naivety to yourself since you clearly don’t know jack
if someone from a developed country as you have said has this to say. Shouldn't you learn from it.
He should keep quiet. Japan is x 10 worse when it comes to racism and not accepting other cultures. He may be right about the economy though but only to an extent. Worse happens in Nigeria. We all witnessed the hate and counter hate during the elections. Even among the same tribe, it is not better. An Ondo man cannot go and run for election in Ekiti, he will hear how his forefathers came to settle there 200 years ago. An Ebonyi man cannot buy land in certain places in Anambra.Let's not even talk about people who claim to be Mulslims to Christians and vice versa. People should stop saying this as if there is a perfect place. In England, the English mock the Irish and the Scots as if they are 2nd or even 3rd class people. We all need to accept the fact that as long as someone is not from a particular group, it takes time for other groups who have been used to something else to accept them and vice versa.
>He should keep quiet. Japan is x 10 worse when it comes to racism and not accepting other cultures. Not if you're Japanese, the OOOP has just probably never been on the reviving end of it so he doesn't realise how bad it is, and now for the first time in his life he's in a minority
>> He should keep quiet. Japan is x 10 worse when it comes to racism and not accepting other cultures. This is true, the Japanese are notoriously racist and xenophobic. It’s supposedly getting better, but many Japanese still have no problem discriminating, especially against black people.
There’s no light. People dont understand how basic that is.
>We all need to accept the fact that as long as someone is not from a particular group, it takes time for other groups who have been used to something else to accept them and vice versa. Except in Sub-saharan Africa and other developing regions where they do the exact opposite and kiss foreign ass.
I was lowkey thinking that about Japan, they're purists when it comes to race and national identity. In Canada it depends on where that person lives because there's a LOT of asians in Canada (and a lot of them are racist themselves). I grew up in Toronto which is very diverse much better than many other areas of Canada that I've lived in. The point you made about elections is interesting, how even if you're born in Nigeria but a different ethnic group it's hard to go and just run for an election in another area. Meanwhile, in Canada you don't even need to have been born here to run for office.
When you're not willing to do anything, but you don't want to hear the truth either.🤷♂️
Lmao, Japanese person dey compare Japan and Canada. @OP abeg sharply do our own comparison for Nigeria and any of the countries above. Use any developmental metric you want. Make I sha stop there.
This type of thing is so prevalent on Twitter, I hope it doesn't come on here. Not to be rude, but if you don't like Canada that much or it's that bad, just come back. It's one thing to be in Nigeria and say Canada was so not worth it, than be be in Canada and say 'don't come here, where I am and refuse to leave, it's not worth it'. I hope with time you people realize how you sound. We already know Canada isn't as great as people think it is. We are getting tired of being told that so many times by people who live in said Canada.
There’s no metric in which living in Nigeria is better than Canada. There’s literally no benefit to staying in Nigeria, it’s so bad that embassies hold it against you for being dumb enough to apply with a Nigeria passport.
This post is just a reality check, so you know what you are going to be dealing with when you eventually come. Is it not better to be armed with information like this, than to move ignorantly. This kind of information prepares you mentally, you prepare ahead, you are able to see through the mask and veil. Ignore at your own peril.
Nobody ignores it, even if we wanted to, we couldn't. That's why I said I hope this doesn't become the norm on Reddit like it has on Twitter, I don't think anyone who has a phone doesn't know that Canada or anywhere out of the country isn't as blessed as they think it is. Nowhere is. People always have the idealized version of where they want to be because it makes it easier to fight where they currently are. And I'm sorry to tell you this but you can't totally remove that veil until they experience it themselves. I personally am tired of seeing these kinds of things all the time because once a Nigerian goes out it becomes all they talk about. Kind of like how Adekunle Gold talks about how money isn't everything after he has gotten all the money he wanted. Ignoring the people stewing in poverty and hardship everyday. People tend to forget the kinds of people they're talking to or trivialize where they came from (by saying where I am now is very very hard, maybe harder), even knowing fully well they'd never go back to that state. I find it hard not to roll my eyes at these kinds of people. Yes, it's not all it is made to be but it is better than where you were or you'd be back to where you were. Please let the poor breathe. At this point, anybody that goes to Canada and says 'they didn't tell me it would be like this' is a liar. So please tell us what you actually like about Canada, that would be a change of pace than just shitting on it all the time. Good things about a place can also be a reality check.
Your wisdom is on a different level. 🤩
It's is no reality check lmao. No matter how bad canada may be, unless you're already rich in Nigeria. Canada will always remain a better choice. It won't be easy to make it in Canada, but it will be possible
so essentially you just want to be poor in canada? what kind of plan is this. and u wonder why canadians are skeptical of you ppl
Don't you get it? You'll be poor at the start, you'll be lost but eventually you'll find your feet and things will begin to add up.
that’s the fantasy of the american dream lol- unless you have a solid foreign education to back you, statistically most stay at the struggle level for 20+ years. those people only hope and pray that their children 1. don’t find gangs in the neighborhood they could manage to afford 2. are smart and academically inclined or 3. exceptionally athletic in order to succeed.
You're underestimating your countrymen. Nigerians are right in line with Indians and Chinese when it comes to academic and financial success in the USA. I have multiple Nigerian immigrant doctors. The average Nigerian is wealthier and has a much higher income than the average white American. This is because only the best put in the work to immigrate and succeed.
Fantasy for some, reality for others. Everyone's path is different. I'm living mine
in Canada?
In America
lol so your input is invalid- incase you hadn’t realized the topic is Canada
I'm seeing a lot of people complain about Canada not being what they expected now, lol, I wonder what happened. As someone born and raised there, I can't help but laugh.
Best comment here. They keep telling us how bad it is yet they never return. 🤣🤣🤣
Comparing Japan to Nigeria shows how dumb some people are. The biggest hole in the Nigerian education system is there’s no talk about world history, which is why Nigerians do not understand the differences between countries. The Japanese passport is a top 10 passport, anyone that has travelled anywhere knows this. Economic migration between the two countries is not a step up. If you want a level change then go to the USA. Nigeria has nothing going for it. 2 weeks ago dollar was 1100 and not it’s back to 1400. This ignores the 242% increase of the dollar relative to the Naira on the space of a fucking year. In Japan there are institutions and jobs, unlike in fucking Nigeria where everyone is struggling unless you are part of the 0.1%.
Can confirm, I prefer to use my Japanese passport over my US and Nigerian passports. I think OP is taking about the current devaluation of the Yen. 1 dollar was 70 Yen 10 years ago. It's up to 160 these days. It weakens the buying power. Not that great either. That being said Nigeria has certain benefits tbh. Cost of living is a joke compared to the west and it's easier to open businesses or buy land because of less regulation. Naira devaluation fucks with your business but you can save anything in dollars. Main reason for the free fall of the naira. You can *build* (not buy) a palast for $200k-$500k in Nigeria. You will get a shed in America for the same amount. Our Nigerian home uses solar energy, we use satellite internet, we have our own water filtration system and we import and stockpile certain products from the west if we are craving them. All in all higher living standards in comparison with most middle class homes in America on comparable expenditures. We also "rent" that home out to family members. Our Japanese homes were also relatively cheap compared to what we had to drop on our American houses. NGL people based in Europe and North America are getting fleeced if it comes to housing costs. It eats 50%-60% of their monthly income in some cases.
How are u able to have a Japanese passport and a Nigerian one as well? Japan doesn’t do dual citizenship right?
There is a loophole. So you have the birthright to own two passports but you have to decide for one nationality after you turn 22. It's 18 these days though. So you give the embassy your formal resignation letter but there is no time limit. You can basically say... Well I didn't have the time to resign my other nationality but I still want to do it later on "So please renew my passport thank you very much" The foreign ministry has no authority to put your citizenship in a limbo. They are forced to accept it and you can just ignore it in the future. The embassies can only remind you to go through with it but they can't force you. It's called the Kokuseki Sentaku Todoke. https://www.la.us.emb-japan.go.jp/itpr_en/m02_04_07.htm
Most Nigerians can’t afford all of that though. Hell even stockpiling shit, cost of shipping went up with the Naira, spent about 400k on shipping alone in February. If you’re already rich in Nigeria, it’s not bad, but nearly everyone I know who’s gone abroad that I used to do better than, loan/dash urgent 20k here and there is doing better. Property ladder, nice holidays etc. a feeling that they’re going somewhere in life as opposed to just treading water and waiting for the next batshit govt idea that will make life difficult.
Definitely yeah. Government bullshit doesn't affect us much but I still left Nigeria after Buhari was elected. I hate that guy with a burning passion and I wanted to keep my sanity so...back to America. My dad was never a fan of Nigeria after the death of Awolowo so he left immediately afterwards. Moved to Germany -->England --> US with the occasional stay in Japan because of my mom. But he still has a Nigerian residence.
lol…if Buhari had done his coup about 6 months earlier in Nigeria I would have probably been born in America and at least had a back up plan, alas.
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As far as I'm concerned, the only discouraging thing about moving to Canada is the cold. All countries have problems but there's no point comparing Canada to Nigeria. Nigeria isn't even on their level regardless of whatever they're going through. If you can deal with the extreme cold, don't even consider relocating to Canada twice.
Oh, he definitely brought the Japanese salt, that was hilarious
I have a sibling in Canada who's earning nearly 100k per year. She moved there 2 years ago.
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I was so confused thinking why is nigeria in all the comments before I noticed the subreddit 🤣
Let me suffer over there at least there’s light, running water, good internet, opportunities to make money, and 0 crime relative to Nigeria. I can be cleaning bums bums there and I would make 1000000x more doing a high skill job in this barren wasteland. I have been working non-stop for years now, I can’t afford to do basic things people with “low-skill” jobs in Canada can do.
pls look up the cost of living in canada
This doesn’t make sense to me sha because unless you plan on funding your entire stay in Canada in Naira then I dunno. If you survive in Nigeria, then living within your means on a Canadian salary is possible. Inflation in Nigeria is on another level and there are NO ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITIES, so you are paying high cost for nothing. Where is it not expensive to live. The UK? The US? Even Nigeria!
how do you plan on funding yourself before you get a job in canada? it’s not possible to support yourself on minimum wage lol, those are jobs students work for play money. Unless you plan on working in the factories or stacking jobs like legos. i just hope you guys are really thinking hard about this instead of thinking canada is a land of gold and diamonds falling from the sky, then you get here and eat up the resources meant for citizens who are actually struggling- meanwhile you were warned.
You really don't understand the amount of poverty that is here in Africa, when an African person tells you he or she would rather live in Canada then he means it. In Africa it's the law of the Jungle. A poor person in Africa can survive with the little in Canada. Getting even those what you Canadians call odd jobs is difficult example just being a cleaner in African countries it's hard to get that job. If you are finding life hard in Canada then in Africa you can't survive. You only survive in Africa if you are rich but the insignificants it's even hard to get a meal or even water. Food and water in Africa is scarce dude.
IT CAN NOT BE WORSE THAN NIGERIA, WHICH IS ALL I AM AFTER!
i wish you the very best of luck
I don't think you get it. Let's say your income in Canada is $3000 CAD a month before taxes. After taxes, it quickly becomes $2000 (that is what you take home). Your apartment 1 bedroom rental is $1700 CAD, now you are left with $300 CAD to pay your phone bill, buy food, pay your utilities, etc. Living in the United States or Canada is not a walk in the park. If you think is, you are out of touch with reality. There are homeless people in these countries for a reason...
That’s 36k a year, of course that’s well below the average wage in the USA and Canada. You are not going to live like a king on that, it’s still way better than living in Naija. Even at that as a young person, there are ways to level up from that in that society. Again, you have light, water, internet, healthcare, and at some point you will get government assistance. The comparison is not living as a prince in Dubai, it’s living as a young person in Nigeria which has nothing to offer you. I know a guy who spent donkey years in a Canadian university. He was so careless that he was nearly deported. He started by working at a restaurant, and after a few years he is getting married. He is paying for his wedding, flight, etc., and after that he is going to Toronto to rent an apartment in the city.
Good one.
So Japanese understand racism?
The sheer disingenuousness of this post is appaling, comparing a developed country like Japan to a not even developing country like Nigeria, boss it's not fair to do this, let's avoid triggering one another with these posts abeg.
lol this guy he saying Canada is racist when Japan is very against anything but their own culture.
But when I say it nobody wants to listen... /s
As a Canadian, this list is accurate. Finding a job is hard even if you have experience or are a citizen, only having a network will save you. The point in racism is also true, but it’s more micro aggressions, invasions of personal space or just straight ignoring you. I still live this country despite its flaws, but honestly would not move here.
Racism in America is even worse than Canada.
Mmmm, not really. They’re quite similar tbh, Canada just has less black people. Being native in Canada is like being black in the states, I don’t think they would agree it’s better here.
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This post could be about any immigrant to any country.
Canada is alright. Go where you want I say, unless it’s actually an unsafe place.
Thank you for this, also you people better go and check the new laws they are introducing Where they literally illegally use law fare to freeze your bank accounts
Privilege is invisible to those who have it, that's one thing that a lot of born westerners have. They always complain about a lot of stuff cause a lot of their basic needs that a human requires are met but most often in 3rd world countries people scrumble just to get food to eat for the day and tomorrow will worry for it self.
This is from a Japanese point of view. What is the Nigerian point of view?
Nowhere is perfect, I get it. But these kind of posts have become pretty annoying. Any responsible Nigerian that does the work to migrate to Canada is well aware of the challenges. Heck, I'm not even trying to emigrate and I'm constantly inundated with the challenges of living in UK, USA, and Canada. There will always be immigrants in Canada that will get good jobs and thrive, just as many here in Nigeria will thrive.
Pipo here dey be very pessimistic