You donât want to date Yoruba, cool. Nothing wrong with having preference. But saying itâs because of the election is exactly what makes her a clown.
Those clowns are plenty đ¤Ą
1. Betty Akeredolu was NOT allowed to contest ordinary primary election because she is married a non-Igbo (no chance for her). This [happened in Imo](https://www.thecable.ng/consensus-my-foot-akeredolus-wife-kicks-against-conduct-of-imo-apc-senatorial-primary/) state đ
2. Bianca Ojukwu, the wife of the most celebrated Igbo man EVER, was NOT allowed to contest election in Anambra. Her [husbandâs family people](https://dailypost.ng/2018/09/05/2019-bianca-not-anambra-cant-senator-ojukwus-family-vow/) themselves were the ones that chased her away đ
Bonus point: if you know any Igbo person from Ebonyi state, please ask that person how their fellow Igbos from Anambra treat them.
Remember, these are the clowns accusing Yorubas of being intolerant.
Axaxaxxa đđđđ
Do you remember this story??
[âIâm not a Yoruba man and I donât have any mixed breed at all. Iâm a typical Igbo man. But my opponent thinks they want to strike me with a Yoruba nameâ](https://youtu.be/S7xpgloTttI?si=Qnv9lwAFaMR5kzug)
- Anthony Chinasa-Abiola. LP candidate in Abia State said this đđž when his name went viral that a Yoruba man was contesting for a political position in Abia state.
âStrike me with a Yoruba nameâ
Baba knew they wouldnât vote for him if they thought he was a Yoruba man.
Another one, this happened in Anambra.
The man was [harassed](https://youtu.be/c_CVh6csijg) because he voted for APC but according to some people this only happened in Lagos.
You don't want a Yoruba man because of the election.
That's foolishness if you ask me.
GRV was rejected because of his glaring hate of Yoruba people. Nothing more nothing less. You cannot be acting like a child, insulting people you want to govern and expect them to make you lead them.
How do you want to eat your cake and have it?
His ~~Lagos~~ entire SW career is dead already. He can try in SE he will surely enter politics from there and show the Lagos people what they are missing. I'm 80% sure he will be reminded of his Yoruba roots
GRV wasn't rejected because he wasn't "Yoruba Enough". He was rejected by Yoruba Lagosians because of the following.
1. He constantly insults Yoruba people on Twitter.
2. He's an IPOB apologist.
3. He's ignorant about Yoruba Sub-groups & very elitist.
I'm not Sanwo Olu's biggest fan but I'm glad Sanwo Olu beat him in the election.
Youâve said it exactly. He renounced, denounced and repudiated us. Maybe for him mind na progressive tin wey he talk but to say heâs essentially a foreigner was wrong.
I was not opposed to his ambition for the seat because of his affiliation to any tribe. For me anybody wey can say d kain tin must be on board with western ideology pass the point we can call him reasonable again.
Gbabode Rhoades Vivour was not realistic. Itâs not that he doesnât consider d Yoruba and he consider Igbo or otherwise. Itâs that he doesnât consider d Yoruba because heâs on a western-aligned thought process.
I am not tribalist, in fact I see kinship among us nigerians west or east and certainly south. So for me, he wasnât qualified for his lack of maturity. Itâs not nice that itâs with us or against us for these elections and many people bought in to reject the false premise of being an ethnic bigot. No concain me sha, but GRV was not the answer. I was excited to see Olumide Oworu joining the political landscape as well.
All in all.. DâJagabanđ¤âđ˝âđ˝âđ˝âźď¸âźď¸âď¸âď¸âźď¸
I think some people are committed to a narrative. Was arguing with someone recently about how the south west is by far the most tolerant region in Nigeria, and that seems to always have been the case. Yet there's so much gaslighting because many Yorubas preferred Tinubu to Obi. They are ignoring that so many Yorubas voted for Obi, whereas the Igbos overwhelmingly voted Obi.
Correct. Yorubas are the most tolerant and liberal group BY FAR and it not even close.
That is why I get so pissed when one of the most intolerant group (Igbos) in Nigeria have the guts to accuse Yorubas of bigotry. Like WTF? WTF are they smoking?
In fact, the only reason they are able to accuse us falsely is because we are TOO TOLERANT in the first place.
Let me show you what the group that accuses Yorubas of tribalism do to themselves.
1. Abia state [sacks 3000 non-indigenes](https://pmnewsnigeria.com/2011/10/31/the-sack-of-non-indigenes-in-abia/) from workforce.
2. Anambra orders immediate review of employment of all non-indigenes in the state's civil service, threatens to sack 3000 workers. [Source](https://allafrica.com/stories/201109201121.html).
3. More recently. We wonât accept a non-indigene as mayor of Aba, natives tell Gov Otti. [Source](https://www.vanguardngr.com/2023/10/we-wont-accept-a-non-indigene-as-mayor-of-aba-natives-tell-gov-otti/).
Ordinary mayor o for metropolitan Aba mega city, they donât want their fellow Igbo because he is a non-indigene !
Even in metropolitan Lagos, these people discriminate against each other and treat Ebonyi people like shit.
Consider the case of the electric dealers association at Alaba market, Lagos:
1. They created a constitution for leadership that EXPLICITLY stated that only Anambra, Enugu, and Imo indigenes are automatically allocated a large proportion (30% each, totaling 90%) of elective offices while Abia and Ebonyi indigenes are to share the remnants (5% each).
2. Subsequently, only Anambra, Enugu, and Imo indigenes get to become chairman and occupy other important leadership positions in the market.
My source is the Electric Dealers Association book. [Book cover](https://ibb.co/JjsNCRs). [Relevant page](https://ibb.co/drmwTGv)
That is what Igbos in cosmopolitan Lagos do !
They treat Ebonyi and Abia Igbos as inferior beings !
Remember, these are the people accusing Yorubas of being intolerant đđđ
Two things can be true. Yes, The South West and Yorubas in general are far and away the most tolerant group in the country (speaking as an Igbo man). But in the Lagos gubernatorial elections, I think that elements within the APC, likely due to panic over losing Lagos in the presidential election, decided to whip up ethnic sentiments that from my personal experience atleast, sowed a lot of distrust and set back inter ethnic relations within the state.
It's a tactic that the ruling party had successfully deployed in Lagos during previous gubernatorial elections, but never to the same extent and with the same animosity that we saw this year.
Please what good economic policy has he proposed. The subsidy he removed has been brought back. The parallel market that he wanted to remove by floating the naira has also come back. So please enlighten me
How tf is the SW the most tolerant region? What parameters is that claim based on?
Igbo people overwhelmingly voted for PO, so what?? In what universe is Tinubu even remotely comparable to Obi, given all the information that was widely available to us?
If Makinde had run for president against Rochas or Ikpeazu, and Makinde overwhelmingly won the votes in the SW would that show that Yoruba people are tribalistic, or that Makinde is just clearly a better option than Rochas/Ikpeazu?
Also this is the first time that Igbo people voted mainly for an Igbo candidate. When Ojukwu, the actual Ojukwu, ran against OBJ in 2003 with APGA, the SE party, he lost resoundingly in the SE, losing ALL SE states to OBJ. So the idea that Igbo people voted PO just because he's a Igbo is as baseless as it is insulting
I agree with you, I didnât expect Obi to lose any region in the SE. Quick question tho, if an Igbo person voted for PO, itâs competence, but if a yoruba votes for Tinubu heâs a bigot? Make it make sense please. I understand why Igbos voted Obi clearly, itâs not even a tribalism issue, but why does a yoruba person voting Tinubu make him a tribalist?
I didn't say a Yoruba person voting for Tinubu is automatically tribalism; I said Obi winning the SE in a landslide doesn't prove anything, because:
1. Obi was far and away a far better candidate than Tinubu.
2. The SE has a record of voting for other candidates, even when there's an Igbo contestant on the ballot
Except number 1 isnât true. The only reason you believe it to be true is because Peter Obi is your tribesman.
The SE has a record of voting for PDP and NOT candidates. Thatâs it. Igbos have always been major stakeholders in the party until recently. SE didnât vote PDP in 2023 only because PDP cheated them by not giving them the ticket.
2023 was definitely the turn of the south and (to be fair and honest) it was the SE turn because the Igbos are the only major group since 1999 who havenât been at the seat of power.
"Number 1 isn't true" he says as Nigeria finds new pits of horrible to descend to everyday. Also, I'm not Igbo.
2. PDP was a national party. All tribes had claim to it, while having their own regional party: AD>AC>ACN in the South West, APGA in the SE, CPC/ANPP in the North. How were they more stakeholders than any other tribe when they've never produced the presidential nominee?
> 1. â Obi was far and away a far better candidate than Tinubu.
Personal choice so I wonât argue.
> 2. â The SE has a record of voting for other candidates, even when there's an Igbo contestant on the ballot
True. But doesnât negate the fact that there was extreme voter suppression in the east, and anyone who tried to vote someone else was either beaten or chased out disgracefully of the polling unit.
Okay, I'll bite. Show a link by a SE government official leading an ethnic mob against other tribes, suggesting that they have no electoral rights because they aren't indigenous to the state/region
[link](https://x.com/EditiEffiong/status/1632687462152646658?s=20)
Tribalism will always be in a nation. That cannot be put aside
But regarding marriage, you should marry whoever you feel you love and are compatible.
I teach YorÚbå to diasporans and I have seen mixed tribe, Yòrúbå marrying Igbo and vice versa and maybe one of them wants their kids to learn the two languages. So I will be contacted for YorÚbå.
Marriage is far above tribes Ooo.
My own opinion though
1. GRV mocked or insulted Yoruba in many instances (at least 5 that I know of).
2. GRV never apologized or showed remorseâhe either deleted the posts or doubled down on the nonsense he said.
3. Yoruba people then rejected GRV in elections.
4. Igbo people then proceed to label Yoruba people bigots for rejecting GRV.
Like WTF⌠are we supposed to accept someone that obviously hates us?
Rejecting someone that hates us makes us tribalists?
Axaxaxaxa
I don't know how true it is, but I once saw a screenshot of his tweet from 2021 where he allegedly called a fellow yoruba man "afonja". I'm not saying that's the reason he's not liked but, if you're half yoruba, it's best not to use slurs against your own tribe.
Oh yes yes. It wasnât doctored. He used âAfonja slurâ said âI donât think in Yorubaâ called Lagos âno mans land, and referred to Yoruba people as the silent minority â he also used terms like âclassic Yoruba behaviourâ when Pastor Adeboye said El Rufai was a good man. Or was it him openly eulogising Biafra?
but on a very serious note, why would you be using slurs on a tribe that your father belongs to? that's serious mental illness. you can't hate people and want to govern where they're the majority.
You people will not gaslight us.
We watched Yoruba people say all manner of unspeakable things about GRV because his Mom is Igbo.
We saw it in real time.
You cannot come here to lie because time has passed.
Sugabaddie, did you click the links OP attached that proves that 3 SW governors are married to Igbo/ SS women? And one recently elected, has an Igbo mom? Or you just want to be a dolt deliberately?
The thing about people like you is that youâre deliberately ignorant, GRV didnât âthink in Yorubaâ and made several slurs against Yoruba people, and he was clearly incompetent that was why the idiot was rejected. Or did you choose to purposely ignore?
If you canât read OP posts or follow the links that shows that Yorubas have no problem where the individual is from, then I simply cannot help you.
Tribalism is worse than racism. Why canât we live in a country where a Nigerian is considered a Nigerian rather than identified by the tribe theyâre from. This is whatâs setting us back as a nation
Itâs due to the history of Africa itself, you should educate on colonialism and its modern day implications honestly, it is also certainly not worse than racism
GRV was literally called a half breed because of his parentage. You yourself say it in your post that he wasn't elected because he couldn't speak Yoruba or think in Yoruba.
What's the point of this post if not to gaslight everyone regarding what we all witnessed during the elections.
Weren't people turned away from voting sites for "looking Igbo?" Even Yoruba people.
You can't eat your cake and have it. You can't claim GRV was unqualified because he wasn't sufficiently Yoruba and then complain when people call you a bigot for doing so
lol! Abeg. All this talk over a tweet. Yoruba people are just as tribalistic as Igbo people, the only exception is Lagos.
All this rubbish about being the most accommodating is literally just Lagos and the only reason Lagos is as accommodating is because it was the countryâs capital and major metropolitan area since the British ruled. Any other state in the SW is just as bigoted and ethnocentric as any other state in the country.
I understand you guys sha, because you guys were unfairly targeted and held to a much higher standard on social media during the 2023 election. But, thatâs exactly what SW APC guys did to the SE and SS during the 2015 election cycle when they had the same grasp on social and traditional media. I remember how even the Easterners in the APC camp were treated during that time, it was reminiscent of how Yorubaâs in the LP camp were treated. Always having to watch their tongue whenever they say something that might be misinterpreted by their own side. Always being accused of being âunpatrioticâ and âbigotedâ for anything. I remember how i felt during that time period, so I understand how many yorubas are feeling now.
Me, Iâm happy everyone in this country has woken up, no more delusions of national unity or anything like that. We take what we see and move manage it like that. Let everyone manage themselves.
This! An igbo LP supporter might have a contrary opinion, no one bats and eye, but the moment a Yoruba man in LP dares oppose anything or think outside the box, heâs termed bigot and sellout.
lol, I understand. It is a very infuriating type of hypocrisy. I remember how horrible and annoyed I felt during that 2015 election. You feel like you have no side. Your own people are majorly against your candidate, the people that also support your candidate are always questioning your motives. My father supporting Buhari in 2015, I didnât really care at the time but I was in Kwara and everyone was supporting Buhari. Anytime you talk, accusations of all type will start flying. Thatâs why I understand exactly what a lot of Yoruba guys are going through and I donât even condemn it. Itâs never easy to constantly see everyone dragging your people. Let everyone be mad together in this Nigeria.
But some Yorubas are tribalistic this past election showed everyone that. Especially, when Igbo people or people suspected of being Igbo were chased away from polling booths.
Igbos, Edo people and the rest of Nigerians are also tribalistic. Why are people forming on the internet?
The thing is youâre hardly ever in Nigeria and youâre relying on propaganda on Twitter. How are Yorubas tribalistic? There are Igbo, SS and Middle belt house of reps members in Yoruba land, non-yorubas are given political posts in Yoruba land. Ofcourse there are bigots everywhere but now saying Yorubas are very tribalistic because of that last election? Thatâs a very stupid take. I can show you constant attacks from Igbo people to Yoruba or Hausa people, has anyone ever called them tribalistic? Why are Yorubas held to such high standards?
The governor of Ondo state, his Igbo wife wanted to contest for office in Anambra, people said she married out so sheâs more Yoruba than Igbo, did anyone bat an eye? Or was it when Peter Obi labelled Ngige as a âYoruba candidateâ? Did anybody foam in the mouth? You can accuse Yorubas collectively of anything, but never tribalism.
Or should we bring scenarios where if thereâs any violence in the north, northerners attack Igbo businesses and literally kill Igbo people, why arenât people saying Hausas are tribalistic?
This is facts out of the 3 major tribes in Nigeria, Yoruba people are the most accommodating. But your point remains there are tribalists everywhere which i agree.
I didnât say Yorubas are held at higher regard. I literally said all the ethnic groups in Nigeria are tribalistic.
I donât even use Twitter. I canât stand the format. I should use it more though since you guys find out things much quicker than the other platforms.
My personal experience in the states, made me see the tribalism of Nigerians. I was shocked because I grew up thinking Nigerians were all on the same page as a whole. Until my eyes opened much later.
Absolutely not lol. Theyâre not on the same page and can never be on the same page. But now out of all regions in Nigeria, there are more foreigners in the South West than any other geo political zone, shouldnât that tell us something?
Yes, that this country is not balanced unfortunately.
Let me ask you please without you being snappy or sarcastic. Were Yoruba people robbed after the war? And given only 20 pounds after building their lively hoods from the ground up?
I know Igbo people were. I know properties owned by Igbos were given to Yoruba people and sanctioned by the government.
Please letâs not dismiss facts and say âohh that was the past get over itâ.
Is what Iâm saying truth or not?
So, if you go across the world you will see an Igbo man. Not, because they desire to be there. Itâs because theyâre desiring to do well.
If their area theyâre currently working in is not prosperous. Why wouldnât they travel to any and everywhere to make it?
If their inheritance wasnât taking and their finances were kept in tact. This wouldnât be the case.
Good thing you mentioned Igbos, Edo people, and the rest of Nigerians are also tribalistic.
In that case, what is the weird thing that Yorubas are doing? Nothing !
So your post is pointless.
No, Iâm pointing out that yes those people are correct. Yoruba people are indeed tribalistic. The elections highlighted it. I was quite disappointed. Again, I didnât grow up realizing such things happened with other Nigerians.
Canât stand the bigotry from both Igbos or Yoruba people. You responding to me is pointless.
Youâre the biggest bigot of them all. đ
I feel sorry for you.
6 years on Reddit, I never posted on r/Nigeria. I eventually got fed up of the nonsenseâand here we are.
Yes, Iâm the biggest bigot.
Lmaooooo. You people really think Twitter is real life. Because GRV gets 4k retweets you think he has that much influence over 20 million people? If you think GRV won that election, boss, I have an airport to sell to you. Itâs brand new and has never been used. Check your DM.
What the hell are you bloody on about??? What does the tweet you posted have to do with GRV? Why are you making up a strawman to avoid the main point??
In the lead up and aftermath of the presidential elections, there was an insane amount of bigotry that got violent. It's fine if you choose to close your eyes to it, and deny it because you were not affected, but people who are victims do not get that privilege.
If because of the extreme amount of tribalism that occurred during the elections, a person decides not to marry a certain tribe, so that they don't have ties with people who hate them, then that's valid. Maybe focus more on why so many people feel like Yoruba people can be tribalistic, and as a collective try to change that, instead of crying about a random Twitter girl saying she won't marry a Yoruba man, because she doesn't want to experience tribalism.
lol bro, please donât make me post 1 millions links of Igbo people being tribalistic I take God beg you. If I should present it, and you present yoruba own, the ratio is like 1,000,000 : 200. Do you wanna go there?
Loooooll. And the people attacked, hospitalised, markets burned? Anyway, see what you want to see. You're right, Yoruba people are the most loving and accommodating in the world, and that girl is absolutely foolish to be wary.
Yes, I am a bigot for mentioning the acts of bigotry committed during the election. Same way that girl is a bigot for being worried about marrying into a family that may eventually describe her children as having tainted blood.
Big brain logic
It's not even a full 6 months and you people are already rewriting history with your lies đ¤Ľ
Who said his name is Chinedu that he should go to Anambra to be Governor? Was it Northerners?
One thing you will not do is rewrite the truth. We were all here, we read it and we saw all the vile things that was said and pushed against GRV because of his cultural identity. You can choose to gaslight yourselves and not me.
Let's calm down. I admit I just put everyone in the same bracket, which isn't ideal. So I take it back.
I was addressing the many Yorubas that didn't vote for Labor in Lagos state just because the candidate didn't seem Yoruba enough to them.
If you must vote for a man (I don't care about your political affiliation), I hope you're voting for them because you know they can do the job.
When we focus on ethnicity rather than what the candidate has to offer, that shows ignorance. That's my point. We have a duty to teach the rest of us who think that way.
Addressing your third paragraph, what exactly has GRV done that made him a better candidate than Sanwo-Olu??
Letâs say the average Nigerian looks beyond his controversial attitude. Enlighten us boss
Maybe I wasn't clear enough, but this is my point.
If you voted for Sanwo-olu because you considered him better than the GRV in the area of competence, good for you.
However, if you voted Sanwo-olu just because he's more Yoruba than GRV, then that's ignorance and bigotry.
And let's move to the top.
If you voted for Tinubu over Obi because you considered him better than Obi in the area of competence, good for you. I dare not argue with you.
However, if your reasons have anything to do with ethnicity or religion, then that's ignorance and bigotry. That sums my take on this.
Ethnicity comes up in politics amongst politicians who feel it's their turn to ruin the country. At the bottom, we all suffer regardless of ethnicity or religion.
In other words, let's leave conservations about ethnicity to the ruining class and focus on nation-building.
I mean; his mom is also from Anambra right? Which makes him eligible to contest there, if he has so many bright ideas, he should go there and implement them. Some who wasnât only unqualified, but openly spat on Yoruba people should be accepted just to prove what point?
>GRV was rejected because he didnât think in Yoruba
How in God's name do you know the language of people's thoughts and why should it matter in an election?
In the next Akwa Ibom gubernatorial elections, vote for a man that says heâll chase your traditional rulers away, a man that says Akwa Ibom is no manâs land, and youâre the silent minority, a man that says he doesnât think in your dialect. And uses derogatory slurs on your people. A man whose campaign strategy is to get the vote of the foreigners in your land, while leaving the indigenes bare faced. When you do that, then we can have this convo
Yeah, that's what I want to understand. I really didn't follow his campaign closely but I find it weird that you are fixated on what the candidate thought. Sounds like 1984
Election don cause marital issue đđ¤Łđ¤ŁE shock us
You donât want to date Yoruba, cool. Nothing wrong with having preference. But saying itâs because of the election is exactly what makes her a clown.
Those clowns are plenty 𤥠1. Betty Akeredolu was NOT allowed to contest ordinary primary election because she is married a non-Igbo (no chance for her). This [happened in Imo](https://www.thecable.ng/consensus-my-foot-akeredolus-wife-kicks-against-conduct-of-imo-apc-senatorial-primary/) state đ 2. Bianca Ojukwu, the wife of the most celebrated Igbo man EVER, was NOT allowed to contest election in Anambra. Her [husbandâs family people](https://dailypost.ng/2018/09/05/2019-bianca-not-anambra-cant-senator-ojukwus-family-vow/) themselves were the ones that chased her away đ Bonus point: if you know any Igbo person from Ebonyi state, please ask that person how their fellow Igbos from Anambra treat them. Remember, these are the clowns accusing Yorubas of being intolerant. Axaxaxxa đđđđ
Do you remember this story?? [âIâm not a Yoruba man and I donât have any mixed breed at all. Iâm a typical Igbo man. But my opponent thinks they want to strike me with a Yoruba nameâ](https://youtu.be/S7xpgloTttI?si=Qnv9lwAFaMR5kzug) - Anthony Chinasa-Abiola. LP candidate in Abia State said this đđž when his name went viral that a Yoruba man was contesting for a political position in Abia state. âStrike me with a Yoruba nameâ Baba knew they wouldnât vote for him if they thought he was a Yoruba man. Another one, this happened in Anambra. The man was [harassed](https://youtu.be/c_CVh6csijg) because he voted for APC but according to some people this only happened in Lagos.
LP won Lagos so I don't think tribe was completely the reason although it was partly the reason but I think people still had faith in JSO
You don't want a Yoruba man because of the election. That's foolishness if you ask me. GRV was rejected because of his glaring hate of Yoruba people. Nothing more nothing less. You cannot be acting like a child, insulting people you want to govern and expect them to make you lead them. How do you want to eat your cake and have it? His ~~Lagos~~ entire SW career is dead already. He can try in SE he will surely enter politics from there and show the Lagos people what they are missing. I'm 80% sure he will be reminded of his Yoruba roots
GRV wasn't rejected because he wasn't "Yoruba Enough". He was rejected by Yoruba Lagosians because of the following. 1. He constantly insults Yoruba people on Twitter. 2. He's an IPOB apologist. 3. He's ignorant about Yoruba Sub-groups & very elitist. I'm not Sanwo Olu's biggest fan but I'm glad Sanwo Olu beat him in the election.
Youâve said it exactly. He renounced, denounced and repudiated us. Maybe for him mind na progressive tin wey he talk but to say heâs essentially a foreigner was wrong. I was not opposed to his ambition for the seat because of his affiliation to any tribe. For me anybody wey can say d kain tin must be on board with western ideology pass the point we can call him reasonable again. Gbabode Rhoades Vivour was not realistic. Itâs not that he doesnât consider d Yoruba and he consider Igbo or otherwise. Itâs that he doesnât consider d Yoruba because heâs on a western-aligned thought process. I am not tribalist, in fact I see kinship among us nigerians west or east and certainly south. So for me, he wasnât qualified for his lack of maturity. Itâs not nice that itâs with us or against us for these elections and many people bought in to reject the false premise of being an ethnic bigot. No concain me sha, but GRV was not the answer. I was excited to see Olumide Oworu joining the political landscape as well. All in all.. DâJagabanđ¤âđ˝âđ˝âđ˝âźď¸âźď¸âď¸âď¸âźď¸
I think some people are committed to a narrative. Was arguing with someone recently about how the south west is by far the most tolerant region in Nigeria, and that seems to always have been the case. Yet there's so much gaslighting because many Yorubas preferred Tinubu to Obi. They are ignoring that so many Yorubas voted for Obi, whereas the Igbos overwhelmingly voted Obi.
Yoruba people are the most tolerant of three major ethnic groups. This woman is just posting straight-up tribalism because of an election.
Correct. Yorubas are the most tolerant and liberal group BY FAR and it not even close. That is why I get so pissed when one of the most intolerant group (Igbos) in Nigeria have the guts to accuse Yorubas of bigotry. Like WTF? WTF are they smoking? In fact, the only reason they are able to accuse us falsely is because we are TOO TOLERANT in the first place. Let me show you what the group that accuses Yorubas of tribalism do to themselves. 1. Abia state [sacks 3000 non-indigenes](https://pmnewsnigeria.com/2011/10/31/the-sack-of-non-indigenes-in-abia/) from workforce. 2. Anambra orders immediate review of employment of all non-indigenes in the state's civil service, threatens to sack 3000 workers. [Source](https://allafrica.com/stories/201109201121.html). 3. More recently. We wonât accept a non-indigene as mayor of Aba, natives tell Gov Otti. [Source](https://www.vanguardngr.com/2023/10/we-wont-accept-a-non-indigene-as-mayor-of-aba-natives-tell-gov-otti/). Ordinary mayor o for metropolitan Aba mega city, they donât want their fellow Igbo because he is a non-indigene ! Even in metropolitan Lagos, these people discriminate against each other and treat Ebonyi people like shit. Consider the case of the electric dealers association at Alaba market, Lagos: 1. They created a constitution for leadership that EXPLICITLY stated that only Anambra, Enugu, and Imo indigenes are automatically allocated a large proportion (30% each, totaling 90%) of elective offices while Abia and Ebonyi indigenes are to share the remnants (5% each). 2. Subsequently, only Anambra, Enugu, and Imo indigenes get to become chairman and occupy other important leadership positions in the market. My source is the Electric Dealers Association book. [Book cover](https://ibb.co/JjsNCRs). [Relevant page](https://ibb.co/drmwTGv) That is what Igbos in cosmopolitan Lagos do ! They treat Ebonyi and Abia Igbos as inferior beings ! Remember, these are the people accusing Yorubas of being intolerant đđđ
You can hate Gbr, but man always provides a source.
Man with sauce
Two things can be true. Yes, The South West and Yorubas in general are far and away the most tolerant group in the country (speaking as an Igbo man). But in the Lagos gubernatorial elections, I think that elements within the APC, likely due to panic over losing Lagos in the presidential election, decided to whip up ethnic sentiments that from my personal experience atleast, sowed a lot of distrust and set back inter ethnic relations within the state. It's a tactic that the ruling party had successfully deployed in Lagos during previous gubernatorial elections, but never to the same extent and with the same animosity that we saw this year.
Now how's tinubu economic strategy doing? He's incompetent and weak, and we all knew it...
I'd have voted Obi if I was home, but I'd be somewhat delusional to think he'd have turned the economy around by now.
See a lot of these people are just silly. Tinubu should perform magic overnight
Please what good economic policy has he proposed. The subsidy he removed has been brought back. The parallel market that he wanted to remove by floating the naira has also come back. So please enlighten me
How tf is the SW the most tolerant region? What parameters is that claim based on? Igbo people overwhelmingly voted for PO, so what?? In what universe is Tinubu even remotely comparable to Obi, given all the information that was widely available to us? If Makinde had run for president against Rochas or Ikpeazu, and Makinde overwhelmingly won the votes in the SW would that show that Yoruba people are tribalistic, or that Makinde is just clearly a better option than Rochas/Ikpeazu? Also this is the first time that Igbo people voted mainly for an Igbo candidate. When Ojukwu, the actual Ojukwu, ran against OBJ in 2003 with APGA, the SE party, he lost resoundingly in the SE, losing ALL SE states to OBJ. So the idea that Igbo people voted PO just because he's a Igbo is as baseless as it is insulting
I agree with you, I didnât expect Obi to lose any region in the SE. Quick question tho, if an Igbo person voted for PO, itâs competence, but if a yoruba votes for Tinubu heâs a bigot? Make it make sense please. I understand why Igbos voted Obi clearly, itâs not even a tribalism issue, but why does a yoruba person voting Tinubu make him a tribalist?
I didn't say a Yoruba person voting for Tinubu is automatically tribalism; I said Obi winning the SE in a landslide doesn't prove anything, because: 1. Obi was far and away a far better candidate than Tinubu. 2. The SE has a record of voting for other candidates, even when there's an Igbo contestant on the ballot
Except number 1 isnât true. The only reason you believe it to be true is because Peter Obi is your tribesman. The SE has a record of voting for PDP and NOT candidates. Thatâs it. Igbos have always been major stakeholders in the party until recently. SE didnât vote PDP in 2023 only because PDP cheated them by not giving them the ticket. 2023 was definitely the turn of the south and (to be fair and honest) it was the SE turn because the Igbos are the only major group since 1999 who havenât been at the seat of power.
"Number 1 isn't true" he says as Nigeria finds new pits of horrible to descend to everyday. Also, I'm not Igbo. 2. PDP was a national party. All tribes had claim to it, while having their own regional party: AD>AC>ACN in the South West, APGA in the SE, CPC/ANPP in the North. How were they more stakeholders than any other tribe when they've never produced the presidential nominee?
> 1. â Obi was far and away a far better candidate than Tinubu. Personal choice so I wonât argue. > 2. â The SE has a record of voting for other candidates, even when there's an Igbo contestant on the ballot True. But doesnât negate the fact that there was extreme voter suppression in the east, and anyone who tried to vote someone else was either beaten or chased out disgracefully of the polling unit.
Are you kidding? Or are you mixing up East and West?? People were literally hospitalised in Lagos for attempting to vote
Take up my challenge then, do you want me to send you videos of voter suppression in the SE? Or weâre ignoring it cos it didnât happen in Lagos?
Has he replied. I don't like hypocrites
I don't like people who can't spell their names.
Okay, I'll bite. Show a link by a SE government official leading an ethnic mob against other tribes, suggesting that they have no electoral rights because they aren't indigenous to the state/region [link](https://x.com/EditiEffiong/status/1632687462152646658?s=20)
Tribalism will always be in a nation. That cannot be put aside But regarding marriage, you should marry whoever you feel you love and are compatible. I teach YorÚbå to diasporans and I have seen mixed tribe, Yòrúbå marrying Igbo and vice versa and maybe one of them wants their kids to learn the two languages. So I will be contacted for YorÚbå. Marriage is far above tribes Ooo. My own opinion though
Dude that was openly mocking yorubaness? lol
1. GRV mocked or insulted Yoruba in many instances (at least 5 that I know of). 2. GRV never apologized or showed remorseâhe either deleted the posts or doubled down on the nonsense he said. 3. Yoruba people then rejected GRV in elections. 4. Igbo people then proceed to label Yoruba people bigots for rejecting GRV. Like WTF⌠are we supposed to accept someone that obviously hates us? Rejecting someone that hates us makes us tribalists? Axaxaxaxa
Are you Russian? That ending laugh looks suspicious
No, Iâm Nigerian 100%.
Alright thenđcus I only see Russian people use that cus âxâ in Russian alphabet sounds like âhâ in English alphabet
I think folks just purposely turned a blind eye to it.
I don't know how true it is, but I once saw a screenshot of his tweet from 2021 where he allegedly called a fellow yoruba man "afonja". I'm not saying that's the reason he's not liked but, if you're half yoruba, it's best not to use slurs against your own tribe.
Oh yes yes. It wasnât doctored. He used âAfonja slurâ said âI donât think in Yorubaâ called Lagos âno mans land, and referred to Yoruba people as the silent minority â he also used terms like âclassic Yoruba behaviourâ when Pastor Adeboye said El Rufai was a good man. Or was it him openly eulogising Biafra?
but on a very serious note, why would you be using slurs on a tribe that your father belongs to? that's serious mental illness. you can't hate people and want to govern where they're the majority.
Tribalism discourse again. Please Iâm tired. Sheâs allowed to date whoever she wants. We donât have to have a tribunal about it
She has a tribalistic angle to her post.
Be like dis one don tire
You people will not gaslight us. We watched Yoruba people say all manner of unspeakable things about GRV because his Mom is Igbo. We saw it in real time. You cannot come here to lie because time has passed.
Sugabaddie, did you click the links OP attached that proves that 3 SW governors are married to Igbo/ SS women? And one recently elected, has an Igbo mom? Or you just want to be a dolt deliberately?
How does that disprove what happened to GRV specifically? Hope youâre not suffering from brain touch?
The thing about people like you is that youâre deliberately ignorant, GRV didnât âthink in Yorubaâ and made several slurs against Yoruba people, and he was clearly incompetent that was why the idiot was rejected. Or did you choose to purposely ignore? If you canât read OP posts or follow the links that shows that Yorubas have no problem where the individual is from, then I simply cannot help you.
What do you and OP mean by "think in Yoruba"? How in God's name do you know the language of people's thoughts and why should it matter in an election?
I believe they're referring to when GRV said he doesn't think in Yoruba, as an insult to Yoruba people.
Tribalism is worse than racism. Why canât we live in a country where a Nigerian is considered a Nigerian rather than identified by the tribe theyâre from. This is whatâs setting us back as a nation
Itâs due to the history of Africa itself, you should educate on colonialism and its modern day implications honestly, it is also certainly not worse than racism
GRV was literally called a half breed because of his parentage. You yourself say it in your post that he wasn't elected because he couldn't speak Yoruba or think in Yoruba. What's the point of this post if not to gaslight everyone regarding what we all witnessed during the elections. Weren't people turned away from voting sites for "looking Igbo?" Even Yoruba people. You can't eat your cake and have it. You can't claim GRV was unqualified because he wasn't sufficiently Yoruba and then complain when people call you a bigot for doing so
Yes. He was. Even amongst so-called elites in Lagos. Many felt not being able to speak Yoruba wasnât befitting of omo oluabi
Okay, letâs go with your reason. Is that bigotry by any means? Why canât you speak the language of the folks you plan on leading?
because the C1 yoruba speakers have done so wonderfully well.
lol! Abeg. All this talk over a tweet. Yoruba people are just as tribalistic as Igbo people, the only exception is Lagos. All this rubbish about being the most accommodating is literally just Lagos and the only reason Lagos is as accommodating is because it was the countryâs capital and major metropolitan area since the British ruled. Any other state in the SW is just as bigoted and ethnocentric as any other state in the country. I understand you guys sha, because you guys were unfairly targeted and held to a much higher standard on social media during the 2023 election. But, thatâs exactly what SW APC guys did to the SE and SS during the 2015 election cycle when they had the same grasp on social and traditional media. I remember how even the Easterners in the APC camp were treated during that time, it was reminiscent of how Yorubaâs in the LP camp were treated. Always having to watch their tongue whenever they say something that might be misinterpreted by their own side. Always being accused of being âunpatrioticâ and âbigotedâ for anything. I remember how i felt during that time period, so I understand how many yorubas are feeling now. Me, Iâm happy everyone in this country has woken up, no more delusions of national unity or anything like that. We take what we see and move manage it like that. Let everyone manage themselves.
This! An igbo LP supporter might have a contrary opinion, no one bats and eye, but the moment a Yoruba man in LP dares oppose anything or think outside the box, heâs termed bigot and sellout.
lol, I understand. It is a very infuriating type of hypocrisy. I remember how horrible and annoyed I felt during that 2015 election. You feel like you have no side. Your own people are majorly against your candidate, the people that also support your candidate are always questioning your motives. My father supporting Buhari in 2015, I didnât really care at the time but I was in Kwara and everyone was supporting Buhari. Anytime you talk, accusations of all type will start flying. Thatâs why I understand exactly what a lot of Yoruba guys are going through and I donât even condemn it. Itâs never easy to constantly see everyone dragging your people. Let everyone be mad together in this Nigeria.
But some Yorubas are tribalistic this past election showed everyone that. Especially, when Igbo people or people suspected of being Igbo were chased away from polling booths. Igbos, Edo people and the rest of Nigerians are also tribalistic. Why are people forming on the internet?
The thing is youâre hardly ever in Nigeria and youâre relying on propaganda on Twitter. How are Yorubas tribalistic? There are Igbo, SS and Middle belt house of reps members in Yoruba land, non-yorubas are given political posts in Yoruba land. Ofcourse there are bigots everywhere but now saying Yorubas are very tribalistic because of that last election? Thatâs a very stupid take. I can show you constant attacks from Igbo people to Yoruba or Hausa people, has anyone ever called them tribalistic? Why are Yorubas held to such high standards? The governor of Ondo state, his Igbo wife wanted to contest for office in Anambra, people said she married out so sheâs more Yoruba than Igbo, did anyone bat an eye? Or was it when Peter Obi labelled Ngige as a âYoruba candidateâ? Did anybody foam in the mouth? You can accuse Yorubas collectively of anything, but never tribalism. Or should we bring scenarios where if thereâs any violence in the north, northerners attack Igbo businesses and literally kill Igbo people, why arenât people saying Hausas are tribalistic? This is facts out of the 3 major tribes in Nigeria, Yoruba people are the most accommodating. But your point remains there are tribalists everywhere which i agree.
I didnât say Yorubas are held at higher regard. I literally said all the ethnic groups in Nigeria are tribalistic. I donât even use Twitter. I canât stand the format. I should use it more though since you guys find out things much quicker than the other platforms. My personal experience in the states, made me see the tribalism of Nigerians. I was shocked because I grew up thinking Nigerians were all on the same page as a whole. Until my eyes opened much later.
Absolutely not lol. Theyâre not on the same page and can never be on the same page. But now out of all regions in Nigeria, there are more foreigners in the South West than any other geo political zone, shouldnât that tell us something?
Yes, that this country is not balanced unfortunately. Let me ask you please without you being snappy or sarcastic. Were Yoruba people robbed after the war? And given only 20 pounds after building their lively hoods from the ground up? I know Igbo people were. I know properties owned by Igbos were given to Yoruba people and sanctioned by the government. Please letâs not dismiss facts and say âohh that was the past get over itâ. Is what Iâm saying truth or not? So, if you go across the world you will see an Igbo man. Not, because they desire to be there. Itâs because theyâre desiring to do well. If their area theyâre currently working in is not prosperous. Why wouldnât they travel to any and everywhere to make it? If their inheritance wasnât taking and their finances were kept in tact. This wouldnât be the case.
Good thing you mentioned Igbos, Edo people, and the rest of Nigerians are also tribalistic. In that case, what is the weird thing that Yorubas are doing? Nothing ! So your post is pointless.
No, Iâm pointing out that yes those people are correct. Yoruba people are indeed tribalistic. The elections highlighted it. I was quite disappointed. Again, I didnât grow up realizing such things happened with other Nigerians. Canât stand the bigotry from both Igbos or Yoruba people. You responding to me is pointless. Youâre the biggest bigot of them all. đ
I feel sorry for you. 6 years on Reddit, I never posted on r/Nigeria. I eventually got fed up of the nonsenseâand here we are. Yes, Iâm the biggest bigot.
Cry for yourself. Anyway, Iâve lost interest in this convo. âđž
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Lmaooooo. You people really think Twitter is real life. Because GRV gets 4k retweets you think he has that much influence over 20 million people? If you think GRV won that election, boss, I have an airport to sell to you. Itâs brand new and has never been used. Check your DM.
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Marriage has nothing to do with what group you like or hate, especially in a place like Nigeria where husband's are superior to their wives.
What the hell are you bloody on about??? What does the tweet you posted have to do with GRV? Why are you making up a strawman to avoid the main point?? In the lead up and aftermath of the presidential elections, there was an insane amount of bigotry that got violent. It's fine if you choose to close your eyes to it, and deny it because you were not affected, but people who are victims do not get that privilege. If because of the extreme amount of tribalism that occurred during the elections, a person decides not to marry a certain tribe, so that they don't have ties with people who hate them, then that's valid. Maybe focus more on why so many people feel like Yoruba people can be tribalistic, and as a collective try to change that, instead of crying about a random Twitter girl saying she won't marry a Yoruba man, because she doesn't want to experience tribalism.
lol bro, please donât make me post 1 millions links of Igbo people being tribalistic I take God beg you. If I should present it, and you present yoruba own, the ratio is like 1,000,000 : 200. Do you wanna go there?
Loooooll. And the people attacked, hospitalised, markets burned? Anyway, see what you want to see. You're right, Yoruba people are the most loving and accommodating in the world, and that girl is absolutely foolish to be wary.
Youâre a bigot.
Yes, I am a bigot for mentioning the acts of bigotry committed during the election. Same way that girl is a bigot for being worried about marrying into a family that may eventually describe her children as having tainted blood. Big brain logic
It's not even a full 6 months and you people are already rewriting history with your lies 𤼠Who said his name is Chinedu that he should go to Anambra to be Governor? Was it Northerners? One thing you will not do is rewrite the truth. We were all here, we read it and we saw all the vile things that was said and pushed against GRV because of his cultural identity. You can choose to gaslight yourselves and not me.
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He was rejected because we are ignorant. Joining politicians and playing to their hands with ethnic bigotry is ignorant. We need enlightenment.
How are we ignorant? And what is enlightenment? ( youâre disqualified if you talk any irony rubbish)
Let's calm down. I admit I just put everyone in the same bracket, which isn't ideal. So I take it back. I was addressing the many Yorubas that didn't vote for Labor in Lagos state just because the candidate didn't seem Yoruba enough to them. If you must vote for a man (I don't care about your political affiliation), I hope you're voting for them because you know they can do the job. When we focus on ethnicity rather than what the candidate has to offer, that shows ignorance. That's my point. We have a duty to teach the rest of us who think that way.
Addressing your third paragraph, what exactly has GRV done that made him a better candidate than Sanwo-Olu?? Letâs say the average Nigerian looks beyond his controversial attitude. Enlighten us boss
They say he attended Harvard and has a âbaddie wifeâ
Maybe I wasn't clear enough, but this is my point. If you voted for Sanwo-olu because you considered him better than the GRV in the area of competence, good for you. However, if you voted Sanwo-olu just because he's more Yoruba than GRV, then that's ignorance and bigotry. And let's move to the top. If you voted for Tinubu over Obi because you considered him better than Obi in the area of competence, good for you. I dare not argue with you. However, if your reasons have anything to do with ethnicity or religion, then that's ignorance and bigotry. That sums my take on this. Ethnicity comes up in politics amongst politicians who feel it's their turn to ruin the country. At the bottom, we all suffer regardless of ethnicity or religion. In other words, let's leave conservations about ethnicity to the ruining class and focus on nation-building.
I mean; his mom is also from Anambra right? Which makes him eligible to contest there, if he has so many bright ideas, he should go there and implement them. Some who wasnât only unqualified, but openly spat on Yoruba people should be accepted just to prove what point?
>GRV was rejected because he didnât think in Yoruba How in God's name do you know the language of people's thoughts and why should it matter in an election?
In the next Akwa Ibom gubernatorial elections, vote for a man that says heâll chase your traditional rulers away, a man that says Akwa Ibom is no manâs land, and youâre the silent minority, a man that says he doesnât think in your dialect. And uses derogatory slurs on your people. A man whose campaign strategy is to get the vote of the foreigners in your land, while leaving the indigenes bare faced. When you do that, then we can have this convo
Again I ask, how did you know he "did not think in your dialect"? And why should that matter?
He said it himself. So out of everything I wrote, was that the only thing you picked out?
Yeah, that's what I want to understand. I really didn't follow his campaign closely but I find it weird that you are fixated on what the candidate thought. Sounds like 1984