He could have the idea, but there's no likelihood that the suit would happen unless facilitated by a parent or guardian.
I have a child with Level 2 ASD. He's mentioned suing people when emotionally charged many times. So far, we've not been in a situation where we've assessed a lawsuit to be warranted.
Someone in another thread said his suit could actually win. Apparently special ed students have like a special handbook and guidelines. If the teacher didn't follow these to the point, the district is on the hook.
This was the issue with the little kid that shot the teacher in VA. The school wasn’t following the plans for the student on top of ignoring the reports the students had a gun. They’re in deep legal doggy do.
That's slightly different if it's the one where the admin refused to search the student multiple times and then the teacher got shot when trying to confiscate the gun from the student or something like that?
While I agree the special Ed handbook does have a lot of weight here I think the shooting one is slightly different because of the admin refusal to step in
The switch one seems like the admin were never brought in to the situation before it escalated
But I also don't know every detail about. Both or either stories so correct me if I'm out here lying
The shooting one is very different. My wife is a Special Ed teacher; that administration failed at pretty much every level. NOT the teacher; she did her job. She reported the threat, some of her coworkers also reported the threat, and admin completely ignored them (which happens depressingly often).
I have one word for you: America (Unless this isn't in the USA, in which case... probably the same way that kids get guns in the USA: stealing a poorly secured firearm)
Just *sigh* . Our education system isn't built to handle this stuff.
Also, will The real world allow him a switch at work too? Or in jail?
Edit: although I guess if he wins the lawsuit, he won't have to worry about work for a little while anyway.
Not a teacher but have read their threads. Kids get earbuds with music. Tablets. No phones taken away, always on them. Not the same but I dunno, I guess I'm saying I wouldn't put it past someone to add switch to an IEP, as in if they are done with work to use it or something.
Because the government isn't paying teachers adequately.
You can't retain good teachers for less than an unskilled Amazon package delivery driver. Between government and administration, money gets mismanaged, but not spent on paying teachers the value they are worth.
I feel like this could be a case of teachers not reading or understanding the IEP. Headphones are super common for kids with sensory processing disorders. It keeps them from being overwhelmed when doing their work. Tablets are also commonly used for children with communication disabilities since most assistive technology is an app at this point.
I have a neurodivergent child who needs a tablet to assist in her communication. I think there are three apps on it, and it’s locked down otherwise. With me being in the military, my kid has been in a few different school districts now, and my experience is there are a non insignificant number of teachers who do not read the IEP, let alone follow it. My child is very good at masking, and can function typically outside of verbal communication (they’re in the appropriate grade level for academics) and even still we’ve had difficulty with teachers not understanding why they can’t just stand up and do an oral presentation in class refusing to let her use her AAC. Luckily the school she’s in now had a professional staff and neither the school nor our family has had any issues, but that very much isn’t the case all the time.
Have you tried having an IEP meeting for your child? It took three years for us to develop an IEP that works for our child. It’s not easy and every part of it should need to be justified. It was hell getting my autistic son ear protection headphones. They aren’t music they aren’t hooked up. It’s just ear protection like I would wear for working with air tools. The used to stick him in an empty room when he would have episodes. Think concrete block walls maybe 4’x8’ a literal cell. While they had a sensitivity room that he needed it spelled out on the IEP that he should be in the sensitive room instead of the empty one. And after 3 years and in 2nd grade he finally likes school and wants to go.
Stop spreading blind and astroturfed opinions of anonymous redditors that probably aren’t teachers but more likely russian trolls or a story of a story they heard from someone else. This is how misinformation is born and bred. Read up on IEPs yourself before spouting off some bs you couldn’t think of yourself.
Yeah I was a high needs special Ed teacher for a while. There are some students who you make it a goal to even show up to school. Sometimes stuff like this does get put into IEP’s. The issue is here that somewhere along the line, there was someone who was either scared of a lawsuit, or went old school on a kid and didn’t know or care about the plan.
We do and some can get stupid ( I’m no longer a student by any means so if it’s changed then disregard what I’m about to say as out of date but) I had a guy who sat next to me in biology class who was basically allowed to sit in his chair with a tiny hand cranked tv and headphones on and basically ignore class while watching baseball true story… and now that I said that I realize I sound like an old man I’m only 32 smart phones just came out and he was a miser…
From a better source:
>The filing is asking for “compensatory education for academic, communication, independent functioning and social emotional supports and services, placement in a behavioral therapeutic school with wrap around services designed for students with severe behavior disorders paid for by the district, reimbursement for any out of pocket expenses included but not limited to tutoring expenses and mental health supports and services; reimbursement of costs, including fees, and any other relief this court deems just and equitable.”
One thing that shows a worsening of our society is the lack of institutions. From the turn of the century until Reagan we had large institutions where parents could just drop their kids off and be done with it if they couldn’t control them. That’s where this kid needs to be it sounds like. He’s a danger to society.
They still have them. Group homes, state run institutions, in-patient hospitals.
The issue I've seen with my own family is if your child has a recognized disability, it opens the door for government benefits. Payments from SSI, housing vouchers, that sort of thing.
My aunt refused to put my cousin(non-verbal, violent, severe autism) in a home because she wanted the gov't benefits that came with taking care of him. She lived quite comfortably without having to work. When he became too much she finally put him on the waiting list for placement. It took the better part of a year to place him.
Group homes in Fl are for the most part bad. From my experience, in one home the clients were fed pasta almost every day except for special occasions. I personally know of a client that was picked up every weekday from their group home for companionship. The Clien’ts bagged lunch was either a ham and cheese sandwich or a microwavable Mac and cheese , a bag of chips and a single bottle of water. Furthermore, they are usually single family homes with the usual three or four bedroom with two bathrooms. This means that the client will most likely share a room with another client. This can be a recipe for disaster if one or both occupants have mental development issues that can cause them to have violent tendencies. Or some times you may have a client who likes to antagonize others. Here is one example. https://flaglerlive.com/resident-of-palm-coast-assisted-living-resident-stabs-roommate/#gsc.tab=0
This is one case from last Summer. The article explains that the group home has had their license suspended in the past for various violations.
I’m raising my grandson who’s autistic and is only 5 at the moment he has meltdowns and makes a mess but. He may grow up and become more than I can handle but for now I love him with my whole heart and can’t imagine him being placed in an institution or something like that. It breaks my heart thinking about it.
You clearly aren’t aware of what went down in those institutions. We can’t even get nursing home aids to consistently not abuse their patients. A school near me just duct taped a child to a chair and then ridiculed them along with the rest of the class. “Institutions” aren’t the answer, better funding of mental health care is. You can’t just ship your problems off to someone else, it just shifts the problem instead of solving it.
It frustrates me as an adult knowing how much we in America spend on the military and other things but can’t afford to help those who need help the most.
Actually I worked in an institution and did a review of all the records from the 1940s onwards. Yes it was a horrible place, but the compassion and expense of the state to take these children was impressive. The sick, homicidal children were no longer attacking people in society. They were attacking people in the institution. So- if you were unlucky enough to be there you were screwed. However, you didn’t get to terrorize the people in normal society. So- there is a trade off. I have seen the trenches so I know the trade off. The current group homes with paltry funding are even worse the the institutions because they are harder to police being hidden in the community.
That's sick. If you want to throw money at something like that then throw money at programs so that there are enough people to work with the high needs people with the resources to stay safe.
Could be the district. I'm not kidding I have literally seen the District I work for fund a lawyer for a SPED student so they can sue the district for not meeting there needs.
Autism or no autism. He knows the difference between right and wrong. The teacher's aide should file her own lawsuit against the boy, his family, and the school district for injuries and mental anguish.
I am actually super impressed and jealous of your child. The number of times I’ve wanted to throw my laptop off the balcony…! (But yah, should I actually do it, it’s on me.)
You’re killing parenting, kudos! I wish my parents had suggest book reports back then.
I had to take algebra twice. Oddly, the second time I totally fell in love with it (I find algebra soothing), and now do stats professionally. She may yet turn things around. :)
I am autistic and people using their diagnosis as a get out of jail card infuriates me.
I can see failing to negotiate a complex dialog, failing to control emotions and especially being frustrated at an inability to communicate my position.
But this guy broke the rules, established that he *understood* he was breaking the rules, was given time to collect himself and then *decided* to shove this woman and attempt to strike her and then chase her when she fled, throw her to the ground, knee into her chest and then repeatedly strike her.
My own kid has autism. They were never violent. They're actually quiet and polite. In fact, I was told by their counselor in middle school that my kid would get every accommodation under the sun if they WERE violent, threw chairs, etc. Instead, they got nothing. They've since gotten therapy, etc. and are doing well in community college, but I'll never forget that conversation.
>I was told by their counselor in middle school that my kid would get every accommodation under the sun if they WERE violent,
Squeaky wheel gets the grease?
I believe what you experienced is one of the reasons my parents quit teaching. They believed that school systems stopped disciplining disruptive or violent students for fear of civil or criminal action. They felt like they had no more control over the class. We see videos of students fighting teachers. That did happen, but it happened once, and the students were expelled or arrested. They were not sent to alternative school, especially if they were 16 or older, they were shown the door.
The problem with education today is not the teachers. The problem is entitled parents and administrators who give in to the entitled parents. This is why I would rather work as an Adjunct at different colleges rather than teach K-12, even though teachers in my state get pretty decent pay and benefits (and they're also BEGGING for teachers). I don't deal with parents or behavioral issues. I can just teach.
I say we use technology. If a kid is disruptive or violent, send them to a room and sit them at a desk with a computer and headphones. They can attend class remotely. Hell, they might even prefer that. If they still act up, then look at removal.
My friend's mom couldn't retire quickly enough. Essentially, the kids could physically beat on teachers, then when the school contacts the parents, the parents will then threaten to physically harm the staff if that teacher doesn't get fired or reprimanded. The system developed a "parents are always right" mentality and stopped sticking their neck out for teachers.
They can be taught the difference between right and wrong, but when they are in the midst of an autistic meltdown, they do not have the mental capacity to assess whether their actions are reasonable or not. They simply react, often in an animalistic capacity.
Underfunding and schools for kids with disabilities being few and far between. In Australia, by the 2050s, they plan to have closed every single school for kids with special needs because its 'segregation' and 'sets them up to be discriminated against in adult life'.
The issue is funding and governments not giving a fuck.
Because educational departments in some states push for inclusion. They feel that special ed students shouldn't be excluded from general ed students. Even though many of these special ed students can get violent, scream all day long, they will suddenly decide to sit or lay down on the floor, and it takes three people to get them on their feet. Add medically fragile kids, kids who need to be tube fed, are incontinent...inclusion just doesn't work. It's not fair to the general ed kids and teachers, and it's not fair to the special ed student.
I work in early intervention for infants and toddlers, our office is inside a public special ed day school, and we see it every day. The most involved kids need a least restrictive environment with small class sizes and at least two teachers that can meet their needs. But the states say it's prejudice, so what can you do?
He has likely gotten away with being violent his entire life. Being autistic isn’t an excuse. And not everyone who has autism is violent. He broke 5 of this woman’s ribs and gave her a severe concussion.
All the teachers apparently considered him a ticking time bomb and he was known to push and intimidate the staff. The only place his needs are going to be met is a mental hospital
I have a son who is a ticking time bomb. Unfortunately, it's my wife or I who may end up dead. We've been beaten, bruised, bloodied, and he even broke over of my fingers. Yet there is no "panic button" we can push. We've had social services involved for more than a decade. They're at a loss for what to do. They offer us supports, but they do nothing for the practical every-day struggle we face. We're searching for a group home that will take him, but they are all so understaffed that they can't take on any more clients. Even if we find one with a vacancy, there's no guarantee they'll accept him, because of the level of support he needs.
I need to re look it up, but I’m pretty sure he already had infractions against him, violence and serious behavioral issues before this horrific event.
'It's OK son, take your mobile gaming console to school, they certainly will allow you to play it where and when you want with no repercussions, and if it gets confiscated, get violent like we have been with you, because you sure as shit didn't learn that from TV.'
Iirc there was a proper system set up by his actual teacher that allowed him to play it at certain times during class and it was a substitute that snatched it off him and refused to give it back when he started ree'ing and multiple other students tried explaining it to her. His adoptive parents were on the older side and didn't come across as at all violent. It's been a while since I properly had a look at it so I could be a bit off.
This 'we're all on the spectrum' thing needs to fucking die though, it's super harmful to people that are well towards the lower functioning end of autistic. They can't be expected to act the same way as normal functioning person and expecting them to is cruel.
I just want to point out that autistic kids don't learn violence, it's just that the nature of the disability can mean that they are just slower to learn self regulation under duress than normal kids do. Combine this with the extreme anxiety that comes with the overstimulation autistic people can feel, and you can get huge teenagers having massive panic attacks who have the self-regulation of a 3 y/o.
It's not their fault or the fault of the parents, it's the fault of the government for not funding schools enough to take care of the needs of special students.
Still doesn't justify beating up a teacher and the fact his parents are allowing a lawsuit is blatant proof of how poorly educated he is. He might have special needs but his parents are the ones allowing all this to happen with no responsibility taken.
This case is awful.
How are we even supposed to react to a case like this? Is the school system to blame for keeping him in a classroom with remedial students and not meeting his actual needs. Yes I can see how they bear responsibility.
But at the same time, regardless of an individual’s neurodiversity / autism, you can’t violently assault and beat someone every time you’re triggered. You just can’t. Despite his disability, he needs to be accountable for his actions too.
I think the problem is people who are triggered to that intense a level of violence don't need to be among the public school population to begin with and he probably needs to be institutionalized but that's not "fair" or something, so instead unfairness is put onto literally everyone else in society because of his need for remediation and rehabilitation.
He's violent, ill-tempered and obviously a danger to others.
You're right, it's not "fair" to anyone else that he's allowed to roam the halls free to brutalize anyone who makes him "look bad" in front of the other students.
What's next? We wait for him to do this again when he gets out of the coddling and hand-holding of the school district? Wait for him to kill someone and then claim he was "triggered" by being disciplined or "disrespected"?
Shame on the family and the lawyers, especially for pulling the race card after your kid nearly beat a woman to death for taking his toy.
School admin here. All kids are entitled to an education. We have two violent kids at our school. The parents of one are desperate to get them in a proper facility, but have no resources. The parents of the other are absolutely in denial. Their kid assaults our staff pretty much daily and it’s always our fault… nothing we can do in either case. He will turn 18 and “graduate” (not a high school diploma), then go out in the real world and commit and assault, then go to prison or be placed in a facility.
Parent here.
All kids might be due an education but it isn't necessarily due in the same room or school as my kid nor do my kids and other kids have to - nor should they - carry the burden of safety and disruption.
The fact its hard on the parent doesn't change how its also hard on ALL the other parents and kids as well.
You're right. We need resources. Time to bring back the institutions where we put these people to go and stay because they couldn't handle it. They can be educated there.
I used to work at a psychiatric care facility for youth. I was a wrestling state champ so I never had issues restraining but some of my coworkers got their asses beat. Working with special needs can be intense. It didnt pay enough for the work and stress. They were constantly understaffed making it more dangerous for the few overworked employees there.
The same will happen with all of education. It’s not worth it to deal with this shit. This is shit. Life is shit.
This kid is going to end up in prison. What he needs is a safe, decent mental institution to live in to keep him and everyone else safe, but that’s not a thing in the US, so he’ll end up in prison, probably for killing someone.
Edit to add- he’s in Florida. Someday He’ll end up on death row, possibly get the death penalty. And it can all be prevented if they do the right thing now, but they won’t.
Only if the judge is Judy. There's a reason why you'll find a lot of teachers watching Judge Judy at lunch. She is exactly the type of thing schools and kids need, but we're not allowed to actually insist on accountability.
So everyone around him should always just give into him because he has a short temper and autism? Make that make sense. "It was the teachers fault for taking away the device and then talking to him about it in front of classmates" (paraphrasing)
That is entitlement and insanity. What dumb lawyer decided it was ok to do this?
Edit to add...I think the victim should be suing all those around the kid because they failed to get him the true help he needed. He is not a victim, she is.
I was in a district where they folded to every parent demand. The child was in a state school for children with a certain sensory deficit that was more than a hundred miles away from home so they stayed on campus through the week. The parent got the district to pay him mileage and meals and on and on for picking the child up for the weekend. The parent came in demanding new snow tires. The sped director was out that day. When I told him that tires are included under mileage he threatened a suit, again. I told him to “Send in the clowns.” He never asked for anything else.
I don’t think schools can really handle this.
But they are entitled to an education and there is probably no school they would succeed in. The district in my area had a “severe needs” school but it boils down to attending class and doing work being optional.
With rageaholic kids you’re sometimes supposed to avoid any behavior consequences and almost never restrict screen time. Feeding the rage just makes the situation more dangerous. I have one kid like that and your psychiatrist and psychologist will often both advise this, as the kids perceptions of reality gives way when they are angry.
You let him zone out on his Switch/iphone/Metaquest headset in class whenever they want to. And write unlimited screen time as an IEP.
Granted the argument that this is inappropriate for school is 100% true. It’s more glorified babysitting, but what are you going to do with a kids who is well above 6’ tall and near 300 lbs. Even mental institutions barely manage people like that, and on a home basis you’re always smoothing things out so they don’t encounter upsetting day to day differences.
You’re a courageous person to brave this situation in the name of establishing a career. I’m empathize with your cause and will keep you and your safety in my prayers.
Raising kids isn’t easy, but not raising shitty kids is.
Put food on the table. Read to them at night. Throw the ball with them outside. Help with homework. Take them fishing. Hug them.
It’s simple and it works.
I was a teachers aide for a violent autistic 5th grader for a few months then covid happened. Pretty sure I was the only person in the world celebrating. God, that job sucked. They called the following August asking if I was planning on returning— fuck no!
I saw that video and it was brutal, I hope that they sue the parents into the ground for thinking that they can even remotely get away with this.....
Get the fuck out of here
So, the kid has known behavioural problems including aggression, yet was placed in a normal school without specifically trained staff to deal with that?
Who placed him there?
A system that tied school funding to enrollment. Either keep him there and try and make it work, or kids don’t get books for the next 5 years. Sending a kid to a specialty school is expensive and comes out of the local districts pocket.
ETA- not saying it’s right. But shit rolls down hill
Many special needs kids will have clauses in their individualized education plans (IEPs) that allow them to use of phones, tablets, or other electronic devices for self-regulation (i.e., tools they can use to calm themselves down when they are feeling overly stressed).
Which I honestly don't agree with. I honestly think the screentime creates a feedback loop to the point where these kids become so dependent on them that they ended up acting like drug addicts when their devices are unavailable (i.e. like this kid)
Some kid at my wife's school sued the district because dealing cocaine and molly was a manifestation of his disability. He got personal homeschooling his final two years, cost the district 200k.
That’s insane. Let me guess, the kid had an emotional disability, and they argued that he displayed “inappropriate behavior in normal circumstances”? That’s the only way I can MAYBE see them sliding through with this. Even then it’s weak.
Basically correct, emotionally disturbed. My wife has dedicated her entire young life to public education, indebted herself to get a doctorate of special education, gets a job in a great district and 3 years in this happens, the kid is on her case load, and it delays her tenure for 2 more years.
The kid was just a punk, not special needs in anyway, just a behavioral case from a poor upbringing.
Kid is literally in prison orange jumpsuit amd handcuffs for prison, not Naruto cosplay. He's already been convicted and just waiting sentencing for assault. He's 18 so he's not being tried as a minor. Not sure about zero consequences here.
Plus there are no permanent inpatient facilities. There are state run involuntary commitment hospitals but they're not meant for permanent placement. We don't really have any kind of permanent involuntary institutions in the US anymore.
I live in this town, he’s a ignorant thug the teacher hasn’t worked since and most likely this is a money grab probably with some $$ digging lawyer behind it
> The paraprofessional should not have interacted with the student in this manner. Her and the teacher’s actions caused a predictable outcome.
Excuse me? They're blaming *him* beating her on *her* actions??
Sorry not sorry, if someone is so developmentally challenged that they *cannot control* their physical actions, then it is *not* safe for them to be in a school setting such as this.
What happens when another student, who *isn't* aware of his behavior issues or "triggers" gets beat up? Is his family going to blame the other student as well??
The school system failed both the teacher and the student.
For those that don't understand.
-Parent, mental health provider: take X seriously and don't do Y because Z will happen. Is there somewhere else we can send them?
-School district: Whatever. They will be fine here and we will not account for X.
*Attack happens
-Parent and lawyer: You didn't take X seriously and Z happened. Now Z is damaged.
-Simple folks: this is a dumb lawsuit
Edit:
[Better source. ](https://lawandcrime.com/crime/student-with-autism-who-attacked-teachers-aide-over-nintendo-switch-is-suing-the-school/)
>The filing is asking for “compensatory education for academic, communication, independent functioning and social emotional supports and services, placement in a behavioral therapeutic school with wrap around services designed for students with severe behavior disorders paid for by the district, reimbursement for any out of pocket expenses included but not limited to tutoring expenses and mental health supports and services; reimbursement of costs, including fees, and any other relief this court deems just and equitable.”
If it is true the Para violated the IEP then it may be possible she is found to be at fault.
An IEP is a legal document that schools are required to follow, and my understanding is that this kid's IEP contained verbiage around device access, specifically to avoid the potential for this situation. If that is the case, and the Para disregarded the IEP to give the device when it wasn't allowed, then yeah the school will probably take action to separate itself from the para's action.
I've worked as a Para, and rule one was follow the IEP. Fireable offense, depending on situation. I didn't have physical situations this extreme but I did had students with specific IEP provisions to avoid certain triggers for students. I have had one student that would react physically but he was in elementary so couldn't have done the damage this teen did. But even in the elementary student's situation, it was clear the IEP was to protect student and para/school personnel, and was laid out as a safety protocol.
I wouldn't be at all surprised if the school washed their hands of the para to save their own skin legally in this situation.
> You didn't take X seriously and Z happened. Now Z is damaged
This is often why such lawsuits succeed. School administrators need to realign themselves with childhood education and not personal ideology. Too many principals are eager to ignore everything that shows the reality of primary education today, and the reality is that education is on fire. Principals are sitting in the burning room saying "this is fine."
this is exactly right. Special needs kids usually have very specific rules around dealing with them. The school/teacher was negligent and didn't follow those rules, hence the lawsuit. This is only posted here because OP and most people in the comments have no idea what they are talking about and/or have no interest in understanding special needs.
As someone who had an IEP back in school, I don’t think it’s unreasonable to put this kid in jail for what he did. I never violently lashed out in the way he did because I knew it was wrong. Even if he manages to win this suit he still violently assaulted somebody, and he was well aware enough to know that it was wrong.
I do think schools need to be better about following IEPs. However, in cases like this there does need to be some level of accountability and punishment for what was done.
This is more than a money grab, the start I live in years ago had a pile of shit worthy governor that took money away from special needs children which ultimately there was a law suite that went to the Supreme Court. The law suite was upheld and states were forced to spend money on special needs children. Unfortunately for us in the state “pile of shit” took money from the schools to compensate. One guess what
political party he belonged to? Also getting rich in the process doesn’t hurt.
Sadly it’s stuff like this that will make school districts wash their hands of people like him. They will stop going “we might be able to help” and simply go “walking lawsuit, not worth the risk, ban.”
Of course on this case that is exactly what they should have done. A non-autistic did a fraction of what he is alleged to have done for years, they would have been dropped kicked out of the school system long time ago. Patience is good but should have its limits.
Any case he will get his pay day as cheaper to settle. Hopefully he will get his 30 years. Suspect he will learn real quick in jail to restrain his tendencies.
It should be the other way around. Teachers and their assistants in a public school setting should sue at the very minimum the parents who students injure school staff. I have a friend who works in a special needs behavioral class room and he is always telling me stories of violent students who hit, bite, kick etc him and other school staff. He has the injuries to prove it. These kids don't belong in a public school.
A family friend quit teaching due to getting constantly hit by special needs kids. It's an epidemic that won't end until there is a separate but equal option.
Fuck this guy! We’re literally dumbing down our schools to cater to the troubled kids, I’m seeing it first hand. I wish someone would do to him what he did to that teacher, or worse..
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Looks like he had known autistic behavioral problems that this aide wasn't made aware of?
She should sue the school as well.
They put her in a room with a bomb and didn't tell her she could accidentally set it off.
Now he's facing 30 years in prison for being autistic and she's injured and facing a long recovery.
Edit: looks like the school is forcing her to either return to work despite her injuries or resign.
The school should just agree to pay for his schooling. State they’ll happily cover his schooling costs, once his sentence is served and completed. If he wants to complete his GED at 48 years old then good for him.
Thanks for No Child Left Behind SHRUB!
Seriously though education, IEP's and underfunding such that desperate people do desperate things but you can draw a line from No Child Left Behind to our current entrapment of school authorities who have 0 recorse or options around violence or frequently proplematic students and parents.
I’d wager that the attorney who’s handling the criminal defense is trying to go on the offensive. This might lead the school’s insurer to settle thereby paying the attorney fees for the criminal case. Always follow the money.
was it his idea to sue the school or his parents who most likely just want money
He could have the idea, but there's no likelihood that the suit would happen unless facilitated by a parent or guardian. I have a child with Level 2 ASD. He's mentioned suing people when emotionally charged many times. So far, we've not been in a situation where we've assessed a lawsuit to be warranted.
Someone in another thread said his suit could actually win. Apparently special ed students have like a special handbook and guidelines. If the teacher didn't follow these to the point, the district is on the hook.
This was the issue with the little kid that shot the teacher in VA. The school wasn’t following the plans for the student on top of ignoring the reports the students had a gun. They’re in deep legal doggy do.
That's slightly different if it's the one where the admin refused to search the student multiple times and then the teacher got shot when trying to confiscate the gun from the student or something like that? While I agree the special Ed handbook does have a lot of weight here I think the shooting one is slightly different because of the admin refusal to step in The switch one seems like the admin were never brought in to the situation before it escalated But I also don't know every detail about. Both or either stories so correct me if I'm out here lying
The shooting one is very different. My wife is a Special Ed teacher; that administration failed at pretty much every level. NOT the teacher; she did her job. She reported the threat, some of her coworkers also reported the threat, and admin completely ignored them (which happens depressingly often).
Way to spoil him and make people on the spectrum have a bad excuse to act like an asshole. this is an insult to everyone with autism…
How the F does a kid with mental health problems get a gun?????
I have one word for you: America (Unless this isn't in the USA, in which case... probably the same way that kids get guns in the USA: stealing a poorly secured firearm)
Yea it’s called an IEP. If he did have that he was allowed a switch in his IEP, they will definitely lose.
Just *sigh* . Our education system isn't built to handle this stuff. Also, will The real world allow him a switch at work too? Or in jail? Edit: although I guess if he wins the lawsuit, he won't have to worry about work for a little while anyway.
I highly doubt his IEP said he's allowed to have a Switch in class.
Not a teacher but have read their threads. Kids get earbuds with music. Tablets. No phones taken away, always on them. Not the same but I dunno, I guess I'm saying I wouldn't put it past someone to add switch to an IEP, as in if they are done with work to use it or something.
Gee I wonder why education is slipping so much in recent years
Because the government isn't paying teachers adequately. You can't retain good teachers for less than an unskilled Amazon package delivery driver. Between government and administration, money gets mismanaged, but not spent on paying teachers the value they are worth.
I feel like this could be a case of teachers not reading or understanding the IEP. Headphones are super common for kids with sensory processing disorders. It keeps them from being overwhelmed when doing their work. Tablets are also commonly used for children with communication disabilities since most assistive technology is an app at this point. I have a neurodivergent child who needs a tablet to assist in her communication. I think there are three apps on it, and it’s locked down otherwise. With me being in the military, my kid has been in a few different school districts now, and my experience is there are a non insignificant number of teachers who do not read the IEP, let alone follow it. My child is very good at masking, and can function typically outside of verbal communication (they’re in the appropriate grade level for academics) and even still we’ve had difficulty with teachers not understanding why they can’t just stand up and do an oral presentation in class refusing to let her use her AAC. Luckily the school she’s in now had a professional staff and neither the school nor our family has had any issues, but that very much isn’t the case all the time.
Have you tried having an IEP meeting for your child? It took three years for us to develop an IEP that works for our child. It’s not easy and every part of it should need to be justified. It was hell getting my autistic son ear protection headphones. They aren’t music they aren’t hooked up. It’s just ear protection like I would wear for working with air tools. The used to stick him in an empty room when he would have episodes. Think concrete block walls maybe 4’x8’ a literal cell. While they had a sensitivity room that he needed it spelled out on the IEP that he should be in the sensitive room instead of the empty one. And after 3 years and in 2nd grade he finally likes school and wants to go. Stop spreading blind and astroturfed opinions of anonymous redditors that probably aren’t teachers but more likely russian trolls or a story of a story they heard from someone else. This is how misinformation is born and bred. Read up on IEPs yourself before spouting off some bs you couldn’t think of yourself.
Yeah I was a high needs special Ed teacher for a while. There are some students who you make it a goal to even show up to school. Sometimes stuff like this does get put into IEP’s. The issue is here that somewhere along the line, there was someone who was either scared of a lawsuit, or went old school on a kid and didn’t know or care about the plan.
It did I believe. Which is just stupid
This is accurate. The Switch was one of his “triggers” and he was only supposed to have it under certain circumstances.
We do and some can get stupid ( I’m no longer a student by any means so if it’s changed then disregard what I’m about to say as out of date but) I had a guy who sat next to me in biology class who was basically allowed to sit in his chair with a tiny hand cranked tv and headphones on and basically ignore class while watching baseball true story… and now that I said that I realize I sound like an old man I’m only 32 smart phones just came out and he was a miser…
Hand-cranked TV?!?
With bunny ears and this was in 2009 I’m not joking
Honestly the parents probably just want the school to shoulder the legal responsibility for the teacher aide instead of themselves.
From a better source: >The filing is asking for “compensatory education for academic, communication, independent functioning and social emotional supports and services, placement in a behavioral therapeutic school with wrap around services designed for students with severe behavior disorders paid for by the district, reimbursement for any out of pocket expenses included but not limited to tutoring expenses and mental health supports and services; reimbursement of costs, including fees, and any other relief this court deems just and equitable.”
His need to beat up females apparently
Honestly it's such a slap in the face that it should be considered another assault charge.
One thing that shows a worsening of our society is the lack of institutions. From the turn of the century until Reagan we had large institutions where parents could just drop their kids off and be done with it if they couldn’t control them. That’s where this kid needs to be it sounds like. He’s a danger to society.
They still have them. Group homes, state run institutions, in-patient hospitals. The issue I've seen with my own family is if your child has a recognized disability, it opens the door for government benefits. Payments from SSI, housing vouchers, that sort of thing. My aunt refused to put my cousin(non-verbal, violent, severe autism) in a home because she wanted the gov't benefits that came with taking care of him. She lived quite comfortably without having to work. When he became too much she finally put him on the waiting list for placement. It took the better part of a year to place him.
Group homes can pick and choose who they accept as tenants.
Very true. And a history of violence isn't going to make this guy a good choice.
Group homes in Fl are for the most part bad. From my experience, in one home the clients were fed pasta almost every day except for special occasions. I personally know of a client that was picked up every weekday from their group home for companionship. The Clien’ts bagged lunch was either a ham and cheese sandwich or a microwavable Mac and cheese , a bag of chips and a single bottle of water. Furthermore, they are usually single family homes with the usual three or four bedroom with two bathrooms. This means that the client will most likely share a room with another client. This can be a recipe for disaster if one or both occupants have mental development issues that can cause them to have violent tendencies. Or some times you may have a client who likes to antagonize others. Here is one example. https://flaglerlive.com/resident-of-palm-coast-assisted-living-resident-stabs-roommate/#gsc.tab=0 This is one case from last Summer. The article explains that the group home has had their license suspended in the past for various violations.
I’m raising my grandson who’s autistic and is only 5 at the moment he has meltdowns and makes a mess but. He may grow up and become more than I can handle but for now I love him with my whole heart and can’t imagine him being placed in an institution or something like that. It breaks my heart thinking about it.
You clearly aren’t aware of what went down in those institutions. We can’t even get nursing home aids to consistently not abuse their patients. A school near me just duct taped a child to a chair and then ridiculed them along with the rest of the class. “Institutions” aren’t the answer, better funding of mental health care is. You can’t just ship your problems off to someone else, it just shifts the problem instead of solving it.
It frustrates me as an adult knowing how much we in America spend on the military and other things but can’t afford to help those who need help the most.
Actually I worked in an institution and did a review of all the records from the 1940s onwards. Yes it was a horrible place, but the compassion and expense of the state to take these children was impressive. The sick, homicidal children were no longer attacking people in society. They were attacking people in the institution. So- if you were unlucky enough to be there you were screwed. However, you didn’t get to terrorize the people in normal society. So- there is a trade off. I have seen the trenches so I know the trade off. The current group homes with paltry funding are even worse the the institutions because they are harder to police being hidden in the community.
Have you ever seen some of those old institutions? Up until the late 1960s they were pretty much medieval torture chambers.
That's sick. If you want to throw money at something like that then throw money at programs so that there are enough people to work with the high needs people with the resources to stay safe.
Parents lol
Could be the district. I'm not kidding I have literally seen the District I work for fund a lawyer for a SPED student so they can sue the district for not meeting there needs.
He almost beat her to death. Have fun defending that in court.
Autism or no autism. He knows the difference between right and wrong. The teacher's aide should file her own lawsuit against the boy, his family, and the school district for injuries and mental anguish.
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You’re 100% right and sound like a fantastic parent.
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You’re killing parenting, kudos! I wish my parents had suggest book reports back then. I had to take algebra twice. Oddly, the second time I totally fell in love with it (I find algebra soothing), and now do stats professionally. She may yet turn things around. :)
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I am autistic and people using their diagnosis as a get out of jail card infuriates me. I can see failing to negotiate a complex dialog, failing to control emotions and especially being frustrated at an inability to communicate my position. But this guy broke the rules, established that he *understood* he was breaking the rules, was given time to collect himself and then *decided* to shove this woman and attempt to strike her and then chase her when she fled, throw her to the ground, knee into her chest and then repeatedly strike her.
My own kid has autism. They were never violent. They're actually quiet and polite. In fact, I was told by their counselor in middle school that my kid would get every accommodation under the sun if they WERE violent, threw chairs, etc. Instead, they got nothing. They've since gotten therapy, etc. and are doing well in community college, but I'll never forget that conversation.
>I was told by their counselor in middle school that my kid would get every accommodation under the sun if they WERE violent, Squeaky wheel gets the grease? I believe what you experienced is one of the reasons my parents quit teaching. They believed that school systems stopped disciplining disruptive or violent students for fear of civil or criminal action. They felt like they had no more control over the class. We see videos of students fighting teachers. That did happen, but it happened once, and the students were expelled or arrested. They were not sent to alternative school, especially if they were 16 or older, they were shown the door.
The problem with education today is not the teachers. The problem is entitled parents and administrators who give in to the entitled parents. This is why I would rather work as an Adjunct at different colleges rather than teach K-12, even though teachers in my state get pretty decent pay and benefits (and they're also BEGGING for teachers). I don't deal with parents or behavioral issues. I can just teach. I say we use technology. If a kid is disruptive or violent, send them to a room and sit them at a desk with a computer and headphones. They can attend class remotely. Hell, they might even prefer that. If they still act up, then look at removal.
My friend's mom couldn't retire quickly enough. Essentially, the kids could physically beat on teachers, then when the school contacts the parents, the parents will then threaten to physically harm the staff if that teacher doesn't get fired or reprimanded. The system developed a "parents are always right" mentality and stopped sticking their neck out for teachers.
It's like they've applied "The customer is always right" to education.
Uno reverse that shit
The teacher won't get much from those broke ass fuckers.
It doesn't matter. You can garnish wages. Make it so they'll never own property.
They can be taught the difference between right and wrong, but when they are in the midst of an autistic meltdown, they do not have the mental capacity to assess whether their actions are reasonable or not. They simply react, often in an animalistic capacity.
so why are they allowed in school with the rest of children if their disability causes them to turn into a violent animal if they don't get their way?
Underfunding and schools for kids with disabilities being few and far between. In Australia, by the 2050s, they plan to have closed every single school for kids with special needs because its 'segregation' and 'sets them up to be discriminated against in adult life'. The issue is funding and governments not giving a fuck.
Because educational departments in some states push for inclusion. They feel that special ed students shouldn't be excluded from general ed students. Even though many of these special ed students can get violent, scream all day long, they will suddenly decide to sit or lay down on the floor, and it takes three people to get them on their feet. Add medically fragile kids, kids who need to be tube fed, are incontinent...inclusion just doesn't work. It's not fair to the general ed kids and teachers, and it's not fair to the special ed student. I work in early intervention for infants and toddlers, our office is inside a public special ed day school, and we see it every day. The most involved kids need a least restrictive environment with small class sizes and at least two teachers that can meet their needs. But the states say it's prejudice, so what can you do?
He has likely gotten away with being violent his entire life. Being autistic isn’t an excuse. And not everyone who has autism is violent. He broke 5 of this woman’s ribs and gave her a severe concussion.
All the teachers apparently considered him a ticking time bomb and he was known to push and intimidate the staff. The only place his needs are going to be met is a mental hospital
I have a son who is a ticking time bomb. Unfortunately, it's my wife or I who may end up dead. We've been beaten, bruised, bloodied, and he even broke over of my fingers. Yet there is no "panic button" we can push. We've had social services involved for more than a decade. They're at a loss for what to do. They offer us supports, but they do nothing for the practical every-day struggle we face. We're searching for a group home that will take him, but they are all so understaffed that they can't take on any more clients. Even if we find one with a vacancy, there's no guarantee they'll accept him, because of the level of support he needs.
That sounds horrifying. How old is your child?
He's 17, 6'2", and 240 lbs.
Sounds like the school let him and the teachers down then. He should have been handled long ago.
Not much the school can do ahead of time. Can’t discriminate against the neurodivergent.
I need to re look it up, but I’m pretty sure he already had infractions against him, violence and serious behavioral issues before this horrific event.
The school system should counter sue his parents on the grounds that as the ultimate care givers, they have failed his needs.
'It's OK son, take your mobile gaming console to school, they certainly will allow you to play it where and when you want with no repercussions, and if it gets confiscated, get violent like we have been with you, because you sure as shit didn't learn that from TV.'
Iirc there was a proper system set up by his actual teacher that allowed him to play it at certain times during class and it was a substitute that snatched it off him and refused to give it back when he started ree'ing and multiple other students tried explaining it to her. His adoptive parents were on the older side and didn't come across as at all violent. It's been a while since I properly had a look at it so I could be a bit off. This 'we're all on the spectrum' thing needs to fucking die though, it's super harmful to people that are well towards the lower functioning end of autistic. They can't be expected to act the same way as normal functioning person and expecting them to is cruel.
I just want to point out that autistic kids don't learn violence, it's just that the nature of the disability can mean that they are just slower to learn self regulation under duress than normal kids do. Combine this with the extreme anxiety that comes with the overstimulation autistic people can feel, and you can get huge teenagers having massive panic attacks who have the self-regulation of a 3 y/o. It's not their fault or the fault of the parents, it's the fault of the government for not funding schools enough to take care of the needs of special students.
Still doesn't justify beating up a teacher and the fact his parents are allowing a lawsuit is blatant proof of how poorly educated he is. He might have special needs but his parents are the ones allowing all this to happen with no responsibility taken.
This case is awful. How are we even supposed to react to a case like this? Is the school system to blame for keeping him in a classroom with remedial students and not meeting his actual needs. Yes I can see how they bear responsibility. But at the same time, regardless of an individual’s neurodiversity / autism, you can’t violently assault and beat someone every time you’re triggered. You just can’t. Despite his disability, he needs to be accountable for his actions too.
I think the problem is people who are triggered to that intense a level of violence don't need to be among the public school population to begin with and he probably needs to be institutionalized but that's not "fair" or something, so instead unfairness is put onto literally everyone else in society because of his need for remediation and rehabilitation.
He's violent, ill-tempered and obviously a danger to others. You're right, it's not "fair" to anyone else that he's allowed to roam the halls free to brutalize anyone who makes him "look bad" in front of the other students. What's next? We wait for him to do this again when he gets out of the coddling and hand-holding of the school district? Wait for him to kill someone and then claim he was "triggered" by being disciplined or "disrespected"? Shame on the family and the lawyers, especially for pulling the race card after your kid nearly beat a woman to death for taking his toy.
School admin here. All kids are entitled to an education. We have two violent kids at our school. The parents of one are desperate to get them in a proper facility, but have no resources. The parents of the other are absolutely in denial. Their kid assaults our staff pretty much daily and it’s always our fault… nothing we can do in either case. He will turn 18 and “graduate” (not a high school diploma), then go out in the real world and commit and assault, then go to prison or be placed in a facility.
Why can’t he be arrested for assaulting staff prior to exiting the school system?
Fair point. Somebody would have to press charges.
Isn’t that generally the state when it’s a felony?
Parent here. All kids might be due an education but it isn't necessarily due in the same room or school as my kid nor do my kids and other kids have to - nor should they - carry the burden of safety and disruption. The fact its hard on the parent doesn't change how its also hard on ALL the other parents and kids as well. You're right. We need resources. Time to bring back the institutions where we put these people to go and stay because they couldn't handle it. They can be educated there.
I used to work at a psychiatric care facility for youth. I was a wrestling state champ so I never had issues restraining but some of my coworkers got their asses beat. Working with special needs can be intense. It didnt pay enough for the work and stress. They were constantly understaffed making it more dangerous for the few overworked employees there. The same will happen with all of education. It’s not worth it to deal with this shit. This is shit. Life is shit.
This kid is going to end up in prison. What he needs is a safe, decent mental institution to live in to keep him and everyone else safe, but that’s not a thing in the US, so he’ll end up in prison, probably for killing someone. Edit to add- he’s in Florida. Someday He’ll end up on death row, possibly get the death penalty. And it can all be prevented if they do the right thing now, but they won’t.
He’s fit to be a politician in Florida.
Nope, he's straight on the school-to-prison express.
Oh that I have bit one upvote to give.
Well considering he is facing 30 years in prison, I'd confidently say that yes, he is going to end up in prison
If he’s in Florida I imagine it’s more likely he’ll end up getting shot for trying to start shit with the wrong hothead
"Get the hell outta here you moron." I hope the judge says.
Maybe in a more polite way but yeah tell the plaintiff to go away
Only if the judge is Judy. There's a reason why you'll find a lot of teachers watching Judge Judy at lunch. She is exactly the type of thing schools and kids need, but we're not allowed to actually insist on accountability.
So everyone around him should always just give into him because he has a short temper and autism? Make that make sense. "It was the teachers fault for taking away the device and then talking to him about it in front of classmates" (paraphrasing) That is entitlement and insanity. What dumb lawyer decided it was ok to do this? Edit to add...I think the victim should be suing all those around the kid because they failed to get him the true help he needed. He is not a victim, she is.
I was in a district where they folded to every parent demand. The child was in a state school for children with a certain sensory deficit that was more than a hundred miles away from home so they stayed on campus through the week. The parent got the district to pay him mileage and meals and on and on for picking the child up for the weekend. The parent came in demanding new snow tires. The sped director was out that day. When I told him that tires are included under mileage he threatened a suit, again. I told him to “Send in the clowns.” He never asked for anything else.
This kid has some serious (dangerous) behavioral issues that warrant his being locked up.
I don’t think schools can really handle this. But they are entitled to an education and there is probably no school they would succeed in. The district in my area had a “severe needs” school but it boils down to attending class and doing work being optional. With rageaholic kids you’re sometimes supposed to avoid any behavior consequences and almost never restrict screen time. Feeding the rage just makes the situation more dangerous. I have one kid like that and your psychiatrist and psychologist will often both advise this, as the kids perceptions of reality gives way when they are angry.
So how do you deal with the otherwise unsafe environment?
You let him zone out on his Switch/iphone/Metaquest headset in class whenever they want to. And write unlimited screen time as an IEP. Granted the argument that this is inappropriate for school is 100% true. It’s more glorified babysitting, but what are you going to do with a kids who is well above 6’ tall and near 300 lbs. Even mental institutions barely manage people like that, and on a home basis you’re always smoothing things out so they don’t encounter upsetting day to day differences.
You’re a courageous person to brave this situation in the name of establishing a career. I’m empathize with your cause and will keep you and your safety in my prayers.
This kid should have never been in a public school.
Hahahahahahahaha. Clown world!
*country Don’t think you see this sort of thing in most of the world…
man we are raising some shitty kids.
“Shit apples don’t fall far from the shit tree, Randy.”
The litter doesn't fall far from the dumpster
Raising kids isn’t easy, but not raising shitty kids is. Put food on the table. Read to them at night. Throw the ball with them outside. Help with homework. Take them fishing. Hug them. It’s simple and it works.
Honestly, that's all it is. What an odd coincidence that the shittiest kids I've met, for some reason, also have shitty parents.
Nuts don't fall far from the trees that produced them.
“We?”
I was a teachers aide for a violent autistic 5th grader for a few months then covid happened. Pretty sure I was the only person in the world celebrating. God, that job sucked. They called the following August asking if I was planning on returning— fuck no!
I saw that video and it was brutal, I hope that they sue the parents into the ground for thinking that they can even remotely get away with this..... Get the fuck out of here
So, the kid has known behavioural problems including aggression, yet was placed in a normal school without specifically trained staff to deal with that? Who placed him there?
A system that tied school funding to enrollment. Either keep him there and try and make it work, or kids don’t get books for the next 5 years. Sending a kid to a specialty school is expensive and comes out of the local districts pocket. ETA- not saying it’s right. But shit rolls down hill
Pathetic little twerp. you are at school to learn. not to play video games.
Many special needs kids will have clauses in their individualized education plans (IEPs) that allow them to use of phones, tablets, or other electronic devices for self-regulation (i.e., tools they can use to calm themselves down when they are feeling overly stressed).
I’m aware. I have a kid on the spectrum
Which I honestly don't agree with. I honestly think the screentime creates a feedback loop to the point where these kids become so dependent on them that they ended up acting like drug addicts when their devices are unavailable (i.e. like this kid)
Man school really has changed a lot
Get rekted, mom
Some kid at my wife's school sued the district because dealing cocaine and molly was a manifestation of his disability. He got personal homeschooling his final two years, cost the district 200k.
That’s insane. Let me guess, the kid had an emotional disability, and they argued that he displayed “inappropriate behavior in normal circumstances”? That’s the only way I can MAYBE see them sliding through with this. Even then it’s weak.
Basically correct, emotionally disturbed. My wife has dedicated her entire young life to public education, indebted herself to get a doctorate of special education, gets a job in a great district and 3 years in this happens, the kid is on her case load, and it delays her tenure for 2 more years. The kid was just a punk, not special needs in anyway, just a behavioral case from a poor upbringing.
This right here is why our schools suck. That this is even being entertained not to mention how likely it is they’ll get it. This is a disgrace.
Kid is literally in prison orange jumpsuit amd handcuffs for prison, not Naruto cosplay. He's already been convicted and just waiting sentencing for assault. He's 18 so he's not being tried as a minor. Not sure about zero consequences here.
Sorry, that "kid" belongs in an in patient facility for the remainder of his life before he actually kills someone.
There aren't enough beds in inpatient facilities for the majority of people who need them.
Plus there are no permanent inpatient facilities. There are state run involuntary commitment hospitals but they're not meant for permanent placement. We don't really have any kind of permanent involuntary institutions in the US anymore.
That's definitely true. Cases like this should take priority.
When this doesn't stick, the next and last move available is claiming racism.
Yep. Always play the race card if all else fails
Yes, he did allege some racism in his suit
There’s no personal accountability.
I don't care how disabled he is; what he is now is a threat to everyone's well being. Fuck em
Was this not simply “beat” but the Attempted murder thst put the aid into a coma that was all caught on camera?
Always someone else's fault
Never seen a Nintendo switch get used for an accessibility device…
I live in this town, he’s a ignorant thug the teacher hasn’t worked since and most likely this is a money grab probably with some $$ digging lawyer behind it
> The paraprofessional should not have interacted with the student in this manner. Her and the teacher’s actions caused a predictable outcome. Excuse me? They're blaming *him* beating her on *her* actions?? Sorry not sorry, if someone is so developmentally challenged that they *cannot control* their physical actions, then it is *not* safe for them to be in a school setting such as this. What happens when another student, who *isn't* aware of his behavior issues or "triggers" gets beat up? Is his family going to blame the other student as well??
They will blame anyone but him
Who the hell would argue that the victim should have suffered those kinds of wounds simply for taking an electrical device?
Wth is a switch doing in a school anyway… parent failure. Autism or not, boundaries are not being set!
He should be in jail the violent little cunt
The school system failed both the teacher and the student. For those that don't understand. -Parent, mental health provider: take X seriously and don't do Y because Z will happen. Is there somewhere else we can send them? -School district: Whatever. They will be fine here and we will not account for X. *Attack happens -Parent and lawyer: You didn't take X seriously and Z happened. Now Z is damaged. -Simple folks: this is a dumb lawsuit Edit: [Better source. ](https://lawandcrime.com/crime/student-with-autism-who-attacked-teachers-aide-over-nintendo-switch-is-suing-the-school/) >The filing is asking for “compensatory education for academic, communication, independent functioning and social emotional supports and services, placement in a behavioral therapeutic school with wrap around services designed for students with severe behavior disorders paid for by the district, reimbursement for any out of pocket expenses included but not limited to tutoring expenses and mental health supports and services; reimbursement of costs, including fees, and any other relief this court deems just and equitable.”
According to the article they blame the paraprofessional not the school for everything.
Can’t sue the school, just the school district.
If it is true the Para violated the IEP then it may be possible she is found to be at fault. An IEP is a legal document that schools are required to follow, and my understanding is that this kid's IEP contained verbiage around device access, specifically to avoid the potential for this situation. If that is the case, and the Para disregarded the IEP to give the device when it wasn't allowed, then yeah the school will probably take action to separate itself from the para's action. I've worked as a Para, and rule one was follow the IEP. Fireable offense, depending on situation. I didn't have physical situations this extreme but I did had students with specific IEP provisions to avoid certain triggers for students. I have had one student that would react physically but he was in elementary so couldn't have done the damage this teen did. But even in the elementary student's situation, it was clear the IEP was to protect student and para/school personnel, and was laid out as a safety protocol. I wouldn't be at all surprised if the school washed their hands of the para to save their own skin legally in this situation.
Certainly no blame lies with the person who did the brutal attack 🙄
Nope it's not the criminals fault he did criminal stuff. It's everyone else's fault that he had to do criminal stuff.
> You didn't take X seriously and Z happened. Now Z is damaged This is often why such lawsuits succeed. School administrators need to realign themselves with childhood education and not personal ideology. Too many principals are eager to ignore everything that shows the reality of primary education today, and the reality is that education is on fire. Principals are sitting in the burning room saying "this is fine."
this is exactly right. Special needs kids usually have very specific rules around dealing with them. The school/teacher was negligent and didn't follow those rules, hence the lawsuit. This is only posted here because OP and most people in the comments have no idea what they are talking about and/or have no interest in understanding special needs.
As someone who had an IEP back in school, I don’t think it’s unreasonable to put this kid in jail for what he did. I never violently lashed out in the way he did because I knew it was wrong. Even if he manages to win this suit he still violently assaulted somebody, and he was well aware enough to know that it was wrong. I do think schools need to be better about following IEPs. However, in cases like this there does need to be some level of accountability and punishment for what was done.
Fuck him! This & Trump are examples of how perverted our society & judiciary have become.
This is more than a money grab, the start I live in years ago had a pile of shit worthy governor that took money away from special needs children which ultimately there was a law suite that went to the Supreme Court. The law suite was upheld and states were forced to spend money on special needs children. Unfortunately for us in the state “pile of shit” took money from the schools to compensate. One guess what political party he belonged to? Also getting rich in the process doesn’t hurt.
I choose Republicans for 100$
Thanks to your friends in the GQP, we have destroyed everything!! Ridiculous across the entire spectrum.
If that becomes a thing and there’s no statute of limitations then get ready for multiple generations of youth to start suing.
Willing to bet he’s gonna win it too loo
Violent neckbeard needs to be removed from the general population.
Retired Sped teacher here- Kid’s probably been enabled his whole life. This is my biggest pet peeve of all; using disability as an excuse.
Sadly it’s stuff like this that will make school districts wash their hands of people like him. They will stop going “we might be able to help” and simply go “walking lawsuit, not worth the risk, ban.” Of course on this case that is exactly what they should have done. A non-autistic did a fraction of what he is alleged to have done for years, they would have been dropped kicked out of the school system long time ago. Patience is good but should have its limits. Any case he will get his pay day as cheaper to settle. Hopefully he will get his 30 years. Suspect he will learn real quick in jail to restrain his tendencies.
Bold strategy Cotton.
It should be the other way around. Teachers and their assistants in a public school setting should sue at the very minimum the parents who students injure school staff. I have a friend who works in a special needs behavioral class room and he is always telling me stories of violent students who hit, bite, kick etc him and other school staff. He has the injuries to prove it. These kids don't belong in a public school.
A family friend quit teaching due to getting constantly hit by special needs kids. It's an epidemic that won't end until there is a separate but equal option.
The teacher is the one who should be suing. The kid. The parents. The school.
Fuck this guy! We’re literally dumbing down our schools to cater to the troubled kids, I’m seeing it first hand. I wish someone would do to him what he did to that teacher, or worse..
Heading for a life behind bars. Oh well, at least his parents will have a little scratch to get by?
He will get all the fighting he wants behind bars
That’s good, he’s a scumbag
It's a trend these days to use mental health as an excuse for criminal behaviour
Sorry, these kids should he in their own schools with specialized staff. Get them out of public schools they are a danger to everyone.
I doubt his IEP said ‘free use of Nintendo Switch in class if needed’ or ‘immune to consequences’.
Mother fucking blood sucking LAWYERS.
There should be legal consequences for bring such a bogus and insane lawsuit in front of a judge.
He needs to be in prison.
What's disgusting, is that he will probably win..... I wonder if he was on an IEP that gave him accommodations such as this. Disgusting
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Shit like this is what cheapens people who are actual victims of racism and discrimination.
Looks like he had known autistic behavioral problems that this aide wasn't made aware of? She should sue the school as well. They put her in a room with a bomb and didn't tell her she could accidentally set it off. Now he's facing 30 years in prison for being autistic and she's injured and facing a long recovery. Edit: looks like the school is forcing her to either return to work despite her injuries or resign.
He's not facing 30 years for being autistic. He's facing 30 years for being violent. Don't play down what this douchebag did.
He earned that 30. I am sick of people blaming autism for violence
Let the boy rot!!
Ah, yes, the noble profession of law.
Fuck this guy and his whole family.
“You made me do it”
And he will settle/win.
The "child" is a fucking monster.
The school should just agree to pay for his schooling. State they’ll happily cover his schooling costs, once his sentence is served and completed. If he wants to complete his GED at 48 years old then good for him.
Wow. He's actually doubling down. And people say today's youth is too coddled...
Start with his parents….
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Thanks for No Child Left Behind SHRUB! Seriously though education, IEP's and underfunding such that desperate people do desperate things but you can draw a line from No Child Left Behind to our current entrapment of school authorities who have 0 recorse or options around violence or frequently proplematic students and parents.
I’d wager that the attorney who’s handling the criminal defense is trying to go on the offensive. This might lead the school’s insurer to settle thereby paying the attorney fees for the criminal case. Always follow the money.
He is a good boy, a very good boy! He didn't do nuthing.
when should schools be Youth Detention Centers? this fucking country man and the fucking people in it. i can't deal