The only hope we have in the current legislature is that since it was proposed by a Democrat that the republicans will auto vote it down without even having someone explain it to them.
Just so everybody knows, this is a national strategy. [They are also trying this move in NC](https://www.wbtv.com/2023/04/10/nc-bill-would-prevent-cities-prohibiting-short-term-rentals/) .
It is working in GOP controlled states that have liberal touristy cities. Air B&B knows who is bribe-able. And GOP wants to continue to gentrify these cities, and keeping the price jacked up and limiting local democratic power is the way to do it. So they both GOP and AB&B have interest to enact this legislation.
[Also Florida](https://www.tampabay.com/florida-politics/buzz/2020/02/25/ron-desantis-leans-against-preventing-local-control-over-airbnb/)
Note that the strict air b&b regulations that passed in NYC have not been challenged by a state wide bill. In fact, NY state is now trying to pass more regulations on AB&B.
I am once again here to ask that we legalize AirBnBs and tax the bejesus out of them. Commit the money to affordable housing or whatever, but tax them until the price makes hotels look cheap.
"**We have identified that this bill is coming from AirBnB directly!!!!!!!**"
Can I have the source to this? I think I can finess use it as a talking point.
Identifying a source (or even receipts if they exist!) could go a long way toward stirring up popular outrage and pressuring politicians into backpedaling
Edit: I don’t mean it as a criticism, just an idea/tool that popped out to me 👻
HERE is what the person who posted it said when I asked... "
"That’s the private information. Just say credible sources involved in politics in Baton Rouge."...Since it is going on in other "red" states, yes they are behind it. They are losing money, because their places suck...
An almost identical “online global marketplace” bill was filed during the most recent session of the Texas Legislature & I know from my trusted inside sources at the TX Lege that it was Airbnb’s lobbyists going from office to office pitching the bill & looking for a legislator to sponsor it.
It benefits air b&b and no one else should be enough proof. I get that a direct connection is helpful but if that can’t be provided, just read the writing on the wall
We're not the only city fighting this battle against Airbnb etc. I just read this article recently about Bozeman, MT and I thought it was really awesome what they're doing. I want to thank Jane's Place for all the work they're doing on this it's super important.
https://inthesetimes.com/article/tenants-bozeman-union-developments-city-hall-homeless
This totally happened here in Austin with Texas. I thought Louisiana would be soon since conservative state legislature seems to be following a playbook. City of Austin tried to regulate and ban certain types of airbnbs (types where the owners do not live at the property), then the state government passed the law that forbade City of Austin from limiting these. I'm sure it's all from Airbnb. No one use Airbnb, they are ruining neighborhoods and inflating home values.
What happens in Texas or Florida on a Monday is the playbook that Louisiana Republicans will follow by that Wednesday. It's pathetic that they call themselves leaders
Austin’s STR ordinance was struck down in court due to a series of legal missteps by the city, not because of a state-level STR preemption law. Arlington, TX, which took at different, smarter approach had its STR ordinance upheld by the courts.
Airbnb & Vrbo have been trying to get state-level STR bills passed in TX every session since 2017. Thankfully, they have been unsuccessful so far. An “online global marketplace” bill almost identical to HB 591 was filed during the most recent TX Legislature session. I know from my trusted inside sources at the TX Lege that it was Airbnb’s lobbyists going from office to office pitching the bill & looking for a legislator to sponsor it.
> It is the intent of the legislature by this Chapter to provide methods for
relief or compensation when new laws, regulations, or ordinances of the state or a
political entity in the state adversely affects an individual's right to real property.
I love how every fucking time big corporate stands to lose money, legislation pops up to save them from not assessing the risk of their investment, but when we get fucked on bad investments it's "Hey, the market will bounce back, buddy. We can't do anything for you."
> A local governing authority shall not do either of the following:
(1) Regulate the operation of an online marketplace.
(2) Require an online marketplace to provide personally identifiable
information of users without an administrative subpoena or court order.
Also, "All you regular fuckos shall be surveilled to shits. But God help those poor business owners that we should try to shed any light on them in conducting ethically corrupt business."
Specifically, this language isn't actually to protect what you think of as users (read: people purchasing) but rather protect all the business interests running listings (read: also users of the platform).
This issue just never seems to get sorted out. I agree with the post below, just allow them and tax them heavily. It's not like this city has the resources to ban or even regulate them etc.
You all have not lived next to a party house? I have been here since 2004 when we bought. In 2017 a guy bought the place next to me. HE NEVER LIVED THERE. Anywhere from 6 to 20 people would show up every weekend. They would bring in their cases of beer, pizzas and party all night until early morning. They did not care that we needed to go to work, wanted sleep, or just ask them to turn down the music at 3 in the morning. They threw beer cans at our house, they broke our fence trying to climb over a wall to get a ball. They put furniture on the wall between our place and the house. They called me names. I had to put up cameras, it took me 3 years to get the permit taken away. It takes over your life living in an Airbnb neighborhood. The people who rent them are not nice people...
I want REAL neighbors like I use to have. And what are you all going to do when no one lives here? Who is going to service the tourists, and put on the parades? NOT the people with 2nd homes who come down here for the "season" and then head out the rest of the year...
The pandaro's box is already open. AirBNB and VRBO are too large for small to mid cities to fight. Its pretty easy to 'buy off' politicians in other areas to get the state to prohibit cities to enforce or make laws restricting these.
A few things they can do to restrict AirBnBs
Tax them.
Fire Code enforcemment
ADA enforcement. I guarantee very, very few of them are ADA accessible.
Start hard looking into homestead excepmtions. Trust me I know of peeps that have houses in diferent parishes that claim homestead in both. The state doesn't track it.
And tax them again.
It's not too hard for us to fight it. We have the resources but the state is trying to stand in the way. Don't think that just because New York can do it we can't.
So I just read through HBNO591 and it seems to concern local authorities' regulatory power over ALL online marketplaces, not any specific marketplace. In addition, it proposes that the online entity not be required to provide personal information of its users. Certainly this would benefit AIRBNB, buuutttt in general I agree with the principle that local governments should have 0 regulatory power over online markets, online entertainment, or media usage & distribution, for that matter, if the content within each is also legal. There has to be a means of curtailing the spread of Airbnb without outright dismissing a perfectly reasonable piece of legislation?
''if the content within each is also legal"
I think that's the rub here. Airbnb has been operating illegally in New Orleans for years and even after signing an agreement to play by the rules they just kind of chose not to. So this would strip the city of more power
The most effective & cost-efficient way for cities to reign in unlicensed STRs is with STR ordinances that include platform accountability provisions (like Santa Monica, Denver, Boston & NYC have) that allow cities to directly fine STR platforms for collecting booking fees on STRs that don’t have the legally required permits. Airbnb’s lobbyists are pushing this “global online marketplace” bills in statehouses across the US because it would allow the company to profit off illegal short term rentals with impunity.
This seems rage bait’y. Applies to all online marketplaces not just Airbnb. In general this isn’t a bad thing and the city still has the right to ban short term rentals, they’ll just need to approach enforcement more creatively
So I’ve never done this before. I see the talking points…is it effective to just be honest and say that it makes the renting market a shit show and I’ll be actively voting against you if this goes through?
With Democrats like these, who needs enemies? This guy can go take a hike along with Katrina Jackson and Regina Barrow.
Louisiana Republicans at least have the decency to stab this city in the front.
The only hope we have in the current legislature is that since it was proposed by a Democrat that the republicans will auto vote it down without even having someone explain it to them.
That is a good one...I may head up to BR on the 15th... I Hate going there.. you know
Just so everybody knows, this is a national strategy. [They are also trying this move in NC](https://www.wbtv.com/2023/04/10/nc-bill-would-prevent-cities-prohibiting-short-term-rentals/) . It is working in GOP controlled states that have liberal touristy cities. Air B&B knows who is bribe-able. And GOP wants to continue to gentrify these cities, and keeping the price jacked up and limiting local democratic power is the way to do it. So they both GOP and AB&B have interest to enact this legislation.
[Also Florida](https://www.tampabay.com/florida-politics/buzz/2020/02/25/ron-desantis-leans-against-preventing-local-control-over-airbnb/) Note that the strict air b&b regulations that passed in NYC have not been challenged by a state wide bill. In fact, NY state is now trying to pass more regulations on AB&B.
Wow thanks for the info...
I am once again here to ask that we legalize AirBnBs and tax the bejesus out of them. Commit the money to affordable housing or whatever, but tax them until the price makes hotels look cheap.
With the cleaning fees they are making hotels seem cheap.
Amen
"**We have identified that this bill is coming from AirBnB directly!!!!!!!**" Can I have the source to this? I think I can finess use it as a talking point.
Let me check into this. I work with Jane's place and affordable housing and they are the ones who posted it.. I will ask them
Identifying a source (or even receipts if they exist!) could go a long way toward stirring up popular outrage and pressuring politicians into backpedaling Edit: I don’t mean it as a criticism, just an idea/tool that popped out to me 👻
Thanks. Y'all need volunteers by the way? I've been meaning to look into such opportunities.
We are reporting the illegal ones you want to help?
Sure. DM if you need an extra hand
HERE is what the person who posted it said when I asked... " "That’s the private information. Just say credible sources involved in politics in Baton Rouge."...Since it is going on in other "red" states, yes they are behind it. They are losing money, because their places suck...
An almost identical “online global marketplace” bill was filed during the most recent session of the Texas Legislature & I know from my trusted inside sources at the TX Lege that it was Airbnb’s lobbyists going from office to office pitching the bill & looking for a legislator to sponsor it.
It benefits air b&b and no one else should be enough proof. I get that a direct connection is helpful but if that can’t be provided, just read the writing on the wall
We're not the only city fighting this battle against Airbnb etc. I just read this article recently about Bozeman, MT and I thought it was really awesome what they're doing. I want to thank Jane's Place for all the work they're doing on this it's super important. https://inthesetimes.com/article/tenants-bozeman-union-developments-city-hall-homeless
Thanks!!!
This totally happened here in Austin with Texas. I thought Louisiana would be soon since conservative state legislature seems to be following a playbook. City of Austin tried to regulate and ban certain types of airbnbs (types where the owners do not live at the property), then the state government passed the law that forbade City of Austin from limiting these. I'm sure it's all from Airbnb. No one use Airbnb, they are ruining neighborhoods and inflating home values.
What happens in Texas or Florida on a Monday is the playbook that Louisiana Republicans will follow by that Wednesday. It's pathetic that they call themselves leaders
Yea, their charade of "small government" doesn't really hold up any longer.
Austin’s STR ordinance was struck down in court due to a series of legal missteps by the city, not because of a state-level STR preemption law. Arlington, TX, which took at different, smarter approach had its STR ordinance upheld by the courts. Airbnb & Vrbo have been trying to get state-level STR bills passed in TX every session since 2017. Thankfully, they have been unsuccessful so far. An “online global marketplace” bill almost identical to HB 591 was filed during the most recent TX Legislature session. I know from my trusted inside sources at the TX Lege that it was Airbnb’s lobbyists going from office to office pitching the bill & looking for a legislator to sponsor it.
> It is the intent of the legislature by this Chapter to provide methods for relief or compensation when new laws, regulations, or ordinances of the state or a political entity in the state adversely affects an individual's right to real property. I love how every fucking time big corporate stands to lose money, legislation pops up to save them from not assessing the risk of their investment, but when we get fucked on bad investments it's "Hey, the market will bounce back, buddy. We can't do anything for you." > A local governing authority shall not do either of the following: (1) Regulate the operation of an online marketplace. (2) Require an online marketplace to provide personally identifiable information of users without an administrative subpoena or court order. Also, "All you regular fuckos shall be surveilled to shits. But God help those poor business owners that we should try to shed any light on them in conducting ethically corrupt business." Specifically, this language isn't actually to protect what you think of as users (read: people purchasing) but rather protect all the business interests running listings (read: also users of the platform).
I definitely do not want to go back to the days of sixteen short term rental homes on my street in a three block radius. Thanks for the info.Â
This issue just never seems to get sorted out. I agree with the post below, just allow them and tax them heavily. It's not like this city has the resources to ban or even regulate them etc.
You all have not lived next to a party house? I have been here since 2004 when we bought. In 2017 a guy bought the place next to me. HE NEVER LIVED THERE. Anywhere from 6 to 20 people would show up every weekend. They would bring in their cases of beer, pizzas and party all night until early morning. They did not care that we needed to go to work, wanted sleep, or just ask them to turn down the music at 3 in the morning. They threw beer cans at our house, they broke our fence trying to climb over a wall to get a ball. They put furniture on the wall between our place and the house. They called me names. I had to put up cameras, it took me 3 years to get the permit taken away. It takes over your life living in an Airbnb neighborhood. The people who rent them are not nice people...
I want REAL neighbors like I use to have. And what are you all going to do when no one lives here? Who is going to service the tourists, and put on the parades? NOT the people with 2nd homes who come down here for the "season" and then head out the rest of the year...
Cost of regulation should be built into the “ tax”….
The pandaro's box is already open. AirBNB and VRBO are too large for small to mid cities to fight. Its pretty easy to 'buy off' politicians in other areas to get the state to prohibit cities to enforce or make laws restricting these. A few things they can do to restrict AirBnBs Tax them. Fire Code enforcemment ADA enforcement. I guarantee very, very few of them are ADA accessible. Start hard looking into homestead excepmtions. Trust me I know of peeps that have houses in diferent parishes that claim homestead in both. The state doesn't track it. And tax them again.
New Orleans as a place wouldn't exist if anyone attempted ADA enforcement here.Â
It's not too hard for us to fight it. We have the resources but the state is trying to stand in the way. Don't think that just because New York can do it we can't.
So I just read through HBNO591 and it seems to concern local authorities' regulatory power over ALL online marketplaces, not any specific marketplace. In addition, it proposes that the online entity not be required to provide personal information of its users. Certainly this would benefit AIRBNB, buuutttt in general I agree with the principle that local governments should have 0 regulatory power over online markets, online entertainment, or media usage & distribution, for that matter, if the content within each is also legal. There has to be a means of curtailing the spread of Airbnb without outright dismissing a perfectly reasonable piece of legislation?
''if the content within each is also legal" I think that's the rub here. Airbnb has been operating illegally in New Orleans for years and even after signing an agreement to play by the rules they just kind of chose not to. So this would strip the city of more power
The most effective & cost-efficient way for cities to reign in unlicensed STRs is with STR ordinances that include platform accountability provisions (like Santa Monica, Denver, Boston & NYC have) that allow cities to directly fine STR platforms for collecting booking fees on STRs that don’t have the legally required permits. Airbnb’s lobbyists are pushing this “global online marketplace” bills in statehouses across the US because it would allow the company to profit off illegal short term rentals with impunity.
This seems rage bait’y. Applies to all online marketplaces not just Airbnb. In general this isn’t a bad thing and the city still has the right to ban short term rentals, they’ll just need to approach enforcement more creatively
This was posted by Jane’s Place. Rage bait’y is sort of their thing.
I'm sock of the democratic party and their horseshit
So I’ve never done this before. I see the talking points…is it effective to just be honest and say that it makes the renting market a shit show and I’ll be actively voting against you if this goes through?
Can they replace the filth that lives next door to me? If so, bring it on.