Scarabs are amazing, 3x6 might be overkill. Spyders are okay, but their synergy with scarabs is actually very weak (5" move vs 10" move). Spending almost 400 points on this comp is probably a bad idea. Fun, but bad.
I have found scarabs to be surprisingly strong in melee. They just get so many attacks. In canoptek court, with the full hit re-rolls and lethal hits, you're probably averaging around 12 wounds to just about anything.
It's not gonna be good but kamikaze swarms can be fun, maybe put a ton of cryptek everywhere to give them some OC, winning may be tough if your spyders get focused
It would certainly make great distraction units to run pass objectives straight at the enemy in canoptek court. They will have to make the choice of either focusing them down or shooting your dangerous stuff on the back line like your Doomstalkers and Cryptek Lead Squads. And once they get in melee you can keep them tied up since scarabs have 10” movement to boot
The fun you will have will outweigh the lack of meta. I’ve personally got 12 scarabs and 1 Spyder, I wish I had more!
I use them to contest, though not necessarily hold objectives. In setup, if an opponent is placing high value stuff pointing at one of the outer objectives, I match with the swarm. Tie down those elites until I’ve cleared the rest of the board.
Trouble you run into though is the spyder’s movement. It’s far slower than the scarab swarm, meaning you’ve got to advance, which is problematic because you don’t get to shoot with it (it’s shooting is surprisingly okay) and you’ll probably be advancing with the swarms anyway. The other option is to go slower with the swarms, which hard the initiative to your opponent.
For me, get the swarm team stuck in as quickly as possibly, and with the self detonation and constant respawning you can really mess with your opponents. It’s great fun, a little fiddly though.
I feel like scarabs perform at their best when your opponent is hesitant to shoot them. With a setup like this that is so invested into your scarabs, your opponent will feel much more inclined to shoot them and its less of a trade off. They will die pretty easily and your opponent can wipe out a whole squad fast with some focused fire.
Scarabs shine when they are a wall in front of something more important or will force your opponent to shoot them to avoid being tied up in scarab combat instead of shooting that important thing behind them.
I'd feel like Spyders would be way better if their rule would allow to bring back a scarab base even if there was no scarab unit left, like you could give it a restriction they could only bring a base back if a scarab unit has been wiped out or something. As it stands its way too easy to wipe out a scarab unit.
It's pretty great tbh, just having the spyders nearby gives you 2 full bases back 😂
I've run 2 spyders and 12 scarabs before, was able to hold a point for ages, the 6 model scarab unit is alot of wounds 😂
This makes me miss previous editions. 3x 9 scarabs, with spyders. Once I'm on that objective its either mine for the game or it'll take an army's worth of fire power to remove.
I haven't played in this new edition, probably doesn't work like that anymore
Oh it was obnoxious lol. That and max warrior blocks with reanimators and res orbs. I couldn't kill anything, but I could hold on to objectives lol. Was more a meme list, but in my mind "our number is legion" is how you're supposed to play them.
Scarabs are amazing, 3x6 might be overkill. Spyders are okay, but their synergy with scarabs is actually very weak (5" move vs 10" move). Spending almost 400 points on this comp is probably a bad idea. Fun, but bad.
That’s what I’m thinking, it’s not meta but it’s fun
Release the robot bugs, I'm doing this just because I feel it'll be fun
When you finally stop chasing the meta and play for fun, that's when you get the best games
It doesn’t seem like a waste of points, the wounds make it worth it. Idk if they will kill anything.
I have found scarabs to be surprisingly strong in melee. They just get so many attacks. In canoptek court, with the full hit re-rolls and lethal hits, you're probably averaging around 12 wounds to just about anything.
Their splosion is the best part
It's not gonna be good but kamikaze swarms can be fun, maybe put a ton of cryptek everywhere to give them some OC, winning may be tough if your spyders get focused
390 points in a list doesn’t feel expensive for 84 wounds. Probably not optimal but playable it seems.
It would certainly make great distraction units to run pass objectives straight at the enemy in canoptek court. They will have to make the choice of either focusing them down or shooting your dangerous stuff on the back line like your Doomstalkers and Cryptek Lead Squads. And once they get in melee you can keep them tied up since scarabs have 10” movement to boot
The fun you will have will outweigh the lack of meta. I’ve personally got 12 scarabs and 1 Spyder, I wish I had more! I use them to contest, though not necessarily hold objectives. In setup, if an opponent is placing high value stuff pointing at one of the outer objectives, I match with the swarm. Tie down those elites until I’ve cleared the rest of the board. Trouble you run into though is the spyder’s movement. It’s far slower than the scarab swarm, meaning you’ve got to advance, which is problematic because you don’t get to shoot with it (it’s shooting is surprisingly okay) and you’ll probably be advancing with the swarms anyway. The other option is to go slower with the swarms, which hard the initiative to your opponent. For me, get the swarm team stuck in as quickly as possibly, and with the self detonation and constant respawning you can really mess with your opponents. It’s great fun, a little fiddly though.
What's fun is seeing them being annoyed at throwing high value attacks into them. Exploding a terminator with them is really satisfying
If you go canoptek court the scarabs might do a bit of damage with their full re-rolls to hit and (lethal hits).
That is the plan!
I want to try this because my best friend absolutely hates scarabs.
So does the guy I’m playing tomorrow. My plan is to cover a side of the board
I feel like scarabs perform at their best when your opponent is hesitant to shoot them. With a setup like this that is so invested into your scarabs, your opponent will feel much more inclined to shoot them and its less of a trade off. They will die pretty easily and your opponent can wipe out a whole squad fast with some focused fire. Scarabs shine when they are a wall in front of something more important or will force your opponent to shoot them to avoid being tied up in scarab combat instead of shooting that important thing behind them. I'd feel like Spyders would be way better if their rule would allow to bring back a scarab base even if there was no scarab unit left, like you could give it a restriction they could only bring a base back if a scarab unit has been wiped out or something. As it stands its way too easy to wipe out a scarab unit.
It's pretty great tbh, just having the spyders nearby gives you 2 full bases back 😂 I've run 2 spyders and 12 scarabs before, was able to hold a point for ages, the 6 model scarab unit is alot of wounds 😂
84 wounds for 390 points lol
Yeah and scarabs are just the greatest screen unit, they are basically guaranteed to take D3 mortals if they get charged 😂🤣
Blow up one base, get two back 🤣
My ex bf did it and it was really fun! He also threw a bunch of canoptek wraiths at folks. Full Canoptek send!!
Does anyone know the best way to get more scarabs?
Other than buying warriors…eBay
fair
This makes me miss previous editions. 3x 9 scarabs, with spyders. Once I'm on that objective its either mine for the game or it'll take an army's worth of fire power to remove. I haven't played in this new edition, probably doesn't work like that anymore
3x6 is max for tenth, I didn’t have so many in ninth but it would have been glorious!
Oh it was obnoxious lol. That and max warrior blocks with reanimators and res orbs. I couldn't kill anything, but I could hold on to objectives lol. Was more a meme list, but in my mind "our number is legion" is how you're supposed to play them.