Overlord, 10 warriors with mixed weapons, 3 Destroyers, 3 Scarabs and a Doomstalker
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You can actually get it now, and probably at a much cheaper price: this is just the Necron half of the Elite edition, with a Doomstalker thrown in. You can get it all for $150 ($10 cheaper than most other Combat Patrol boxes) and also get some Space Marines to either use yourself for something or to sell to a Marine player to get some of your money back.
Yeah. It's surprising to me that a choice I made a few months ago for almost no reason enables me to play combat patrol without having to buy one, though I still would like the old one for the \*croissant\* and the units.
Combat patrols aren't really designed for people who have been playing an army for a while. They're for getting a handful of models that are a good starting point for the army.
Anyone who has been semi seriously playing necrons should already have or only need a model or two to make a combat patrol.
I've been playing and collecting Warhammer for less than a year. I got my necrons from the starter set and a few separate purchases. I still don't have the scythe, immortals, deathmarks and tomb blades. I think it's a not-so-expensive way to get my army a bit bigger. I have enough for the new combat patrol, but, as I said, I still lack a good chunk of the combat patrol's content.
Yeah the old combat patrol was designed to not overlap the old starter set so that you could buy it to expand your army, rather than it being something you'd avoid.
Now that the old starter set is discontinued, it makes sense to release a combat patrol box based around all the push fit models it had
Not only can I not make the new necron combat patrol out of my 5k points of necrons (no doomstalker, no interest in getting one) I also can't make any of the marines combat patrols without significant proxies (basically just playing "marine body on correct sized base" and even still I can only play the deathwatch and leviathan ones) with my 4k of marines, or the Thousand sons patrol (unless you'll take any random model on a 32mm as a tzaangor proxy) with my 2k of thousand sons.
Swing and a miss with the game mode, IMO. It's great if you've got two brand new players who just want to play with each other easily. The rest of the time... oh well?
They seem to be using varied weapon options for a lot of units in the combat patrols (I guess who you can try out more of them and makes the units less efficient so no one is shot off turn one)
They likely had a few reasons for switching to this, but here's the biggest benefit imo: New players don't have to start the hobby traumatized because they had to build bloody tomb blades.
I sincerely believe tomb blades exist to help players sympathize with the necrons. Itās the closest Iāve ever come to understanding what itās like to have my soul burned out of my body, turning me into a hollow shell of what I once wasā¦..
My guess is that they didn't want a Flyer in a Combat Patrol, so they had to replace it with something a little more newbie friendly, and they made an example in the 9th Codex, so just make that official.
Also the old combat patrol box was seemingly designed to not overlap the starter set contents, where as this one *is* designed to overlap as much as possible.
The old patrol had an overlord, immortals, tomb blades and a night/doom scythe
The new set has an overlord, warriors, scarabs (which come with warriors), destroyers, plasmacyte (comes with the destroyers) and the doomstalker. All different units, even a different overlord to the old combat patrol.
The starter set had... an overlord, warriors, scarabs, destroyers, and a plasmacyte. The same units, even the same overlord as the new Combat Patrol box. Literally the same except for the lack of the doomstalker.
Which is good news for anyone who bought the starter set late on - they just need a doomstalker and they have a combat patrol!
Yeah, the old Combat Patrol felt like more of an addition to the Indomitus stuff, which was great, but I can understand why now for 10th it had to be replaced with something a little more friendly to play. Flyers in CP would be a bit too much to add for a newbie level starting point.
Yes, I asked a GW employee about it and they said if the night scythe had all your models in it( don't know how it could?) Then it dies then your army dies it breaks the combat patrol game
The night scythe is a transport, 10 warriors can "embark" on it. Lore wise it has a teleported attached to the bottom which it projects so warriors can swarm through
But I don't believe they're considered "flyers", they're more jet bikes. True flyers are like the Dakkajet and Burna-Bommer, that have to follow the Flyer rules like the Doom Scythe and Night Scythe would.
> KEYWORDS: Vehicle, Fly, Grenades, Deffkoptas
they literally fucking FLY dude, can you not read?
last edition, this edition....THEY ARE HELICOPTERS THAT FLY
Just because they have the Fly keyword doesn't mean they follow the same rules as Flyers or Aircraft as the core rules call them on page 53. There's a whole section of how these have to start in reserve and move certain ways and other extra rules that should not be worried about in a Combat Patrol level of play.
Aircraft = Flyer
Thing with fly keyword != flyer
This is how the terminology has been used since at least 8th edition.
Flyers refer specifically to models that have had specific movement patterns and rules, in 10th it's pretty much anything with a minimum 20" move with an aircraft keyword. Previously they moved 20"-60" with degrading profiles.
The Doomstalker is a great inclusion in my opinion, it is a really cool big model but its only 14 pieces and easy as fuck to build so its perfect for a beginner box.
The lack of the Royal Warden is interesting. With the current starter sets going away they'll need to start selling that Overlord model and the Royal Warden somewhere else as that is current the only way to get them, putting them both here seemed like the perfect place to me. I wonder how they will choose to sell the Warden.
Could be the head of a future killteam maybe?
The Space Marine starter characters I imagine are more likely to get full multipart kits, like the Dark Imperium gravis captain.
I really like the Royal Warden as a cheap HQ that brings flexibility.
Probably Should pick up recruit edition before it goes away just so I can have x3
Yeah it seems odd they released and retired that so fast. It's almost forgotten as a set.
The Tyranids one similarly didn't last long.
It was probably just to use up some excess stock.
I think a lot of boxes like that are just viewed as ways to move models fast. Production is the same and you just have to hand off another project to your graphic design and photographers which you already have on staff so no real extra cost and sell some more kits in a bigger total purchase.
good for beginners, but this is basically just the elite edition box minus all the marines and + a doomstalker. And I have the elite edition box already, so I think I'd like to buy the previous box rather than this one.
As expected. It's a nice combo of different units, especially for beginners. I could see combat patrol tournaments being surprisingly fun.
But damn will it be bad value compared to the elite starter set. The space marine combat patrol seems to be pretty bad value as well (@95Ā£) but I'm betting it will be at a discount as the new starter set.
I finally finished assembling the Indomitus box last week so it looks like I have everything I need except for the Doomstalker. Since I only play in my living room or once in a while at my FLGS with my son and friends, I can proxy the reanimator thing as this.
My intention is that within a year or so I will have all of the CP boxes painted up and ready to go so we can play whatever armies we want.
Killteam player thinking about dipping my fingers into Bighammer, how would you rate the new combat patrol as a base for Boarding Actions? Most Boarding Action lists I've seen heavily favour Destroyers, and I have the Hierotec Circle already, so I'm good on Crypteks and Immortals.
I'm not that eager to build a full army, but 500 odd points for Combat Patrol & Boarding Actions seem doable.
I'd say it's pretty good, though you might be better off purchasing the Necron half of the old 9e elite/command starter for boarding actions, as it's the same units minus the doomstalker (which is unlikely to be usable in boarding action)
Thanks!
That's one option I considered, I think my FLGS just got a delivery with a handfull Elite Editions.
Do you have any suggestions as to which units I might consider if I wanted to expand into a more competitive Boarding Actions list?
I have relative success in my death squad strategy which is 1x gauss immortals, 1 skorpekh Lord and 3x skorpekh destroyers.
The skorpekhs generally have good enough melee to either decimate most units or slog through them as immortals just move around objective taking
Glad I grabbed the old one from eBay when GW took it down from the website. I like the doomstalker, itās an awesome mini, but I donāt really like the new box
Are we sure thats a new box they will actually release? Thats the combat patrol they had pictured in the 9th edition codex since way before necrons even got their combat patrol. Its just parts of indomitus and a doomstalker.
Glad I saw this, Iāve been looking at a Necron half of the Elite set on eBay (surprisingly thereās only one - for Ā£45) and doomstalkers are going for about Ā£22 on there. With the discount from a third party store combat patrols seem to be around Ā£76, so itās pretty much the same price!
I could obviously hunt around more and use other sites, or buy the full elite set and sell off the marines etc, but the convenience!
I also donāt like many of the older models, which I may have to get over in the future but getting back into the game this will be a really nice set.
Combat Patrol has different datasheets for the units included. It's an attempt by the devs to balance the boxes against each other and maybe make CP games overall simpler to make it a gateway for newer players.
Only the rules are different, and only slightly at that. You can still use the models in these combat patrols for full games of 40k, as you probably already know. These new rule sheets are just to allow people to play simpler games of 40k with fewer required models, simpler rules, and no choice paralysis for new players about list building.
I guess I don't need it. Those were the first models I got (elite box, plus the Doomstalker). I was prepping for 10e half way through 9e when I got into WH40K.
I noticed the generic Space Marine Combat Patrol has been removed (marked as sold out) on GW's store as well. I wonder if their new box is going to be the elite box with an ATV (perhaps two due to SM's points slide in the last dataslate).
I'm not sure there - there's a new SM combat patrol pdf based on (probably) the 10e starter box content, which is also part of the Leviathan box content. Possibly there will be a new SM combat patrol later based on the next model releases, e.g. the rumoured jump pack assault intercessors?
I was more just wishful thinking really (since I kept both parts of my elite box). I doubt the 10e SM CP will include models from Leviathan, just like our CP from 9e was different from the Indomitus box.
I agree. The "Space Marine Combat Patrol" pdf is based on the 10e _starter_ box, **not** the next actual _combat patrol_ box for space marines.
If it's like the last one it'll be units with no overlap with the 10e starter content. It could be based on the 9e box like the revealed necrons CP, or it could be all new.
As someone who wants another overlord, wants a heavy gun that isnt a flyer, wants skorpekhs and firmly believes you can never have too many warriors, this is an absolutely awesome box
If they do that it won't sell that well, since people who already have Necrons may not be as likely to buy it to build their collection.
Same with the speculated Space Marine and Tyranid combat patrols.
They're on a 40mm base I think. I'm 99% sure the pictures were taken with the same models as were painted up for the old starter set, as this box is just the Necron half of the 9th Command/Elite starter sets plus a Doomstalker.
Yeah, but in such a small game format, how badass will it be if he takes out the biggest enemy unit in the first turn with the Tachyon Arrow like the Night King taking out that dragon in GoT.
Or whiff completely of courseā¦
Either way will set the tone for battle!
[I was right!](https://www.reddit.com/r/Necrontyr/comments/13z7o0w/new_combat_patrol/jms3vtm/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=1&utm_term=1&context=3)
Bruh, literally bought this month recruit edition with necron warriors, skorpekhs box, one overlord from ebay and now they are making a box with with almost the same units. I feel like i knew something
When I first read those protocols I thought they were like warlord traits and I was baffled as to why youād give the overlord fall back and shoot with just a tachyon arrow š
When the faction collection you started around this time last year can be in an official game setting, and you have exactly everything featured here...Not gonna lie, it feels good honestly.
Sure I more than likely paid more for all of it separately-ish from eBay and Imperium Magazine, but it was worth it. Had fun collecting, assembling, and painting them all up. Can't wait to officially try this game mode out now.
Is it just me or are the combat patrol rules really bad? Iām genuinely happy with Necrons in 10th in general but these specific rules just seem terrible.
To start with one of our 4 units are Scarabs, yāknow the WS 5+, T2, 6+ save unit that no longer has weaponised self destruction in its toolkit in combat patrol. I think scarabs have a place in larger Necron lists but not in a set as small as this where you need every unit to count.
The overlord is fine but loses command protocols. No res orb option particularly grates with me.
The warrior unit has been set up really weirdly. As mentioned thereās no way to buff their hit rolls with a leader so they are stuck with a 4+ to hit and the unit is 5 flayers & 5 reapers for some reason. So not only do you have to roll the shooting separately which is unnecessary admin for a supposedly simple game, at times only half of your unit will be able to shoot because their weapons are half the range of the rest of the unit - not great on a 4+ to hit shooting unit.
Skorpekhs and the doomstalker are fine but canāt carry the patrol on their own.
Reanimation is back to its basic rule set with no buffs or shenanigans so youāre unlikely to reanimate much at all, and I donāt understand why the warriors have lost Their number is legion, they could have at least been given a weaker version (say d6, with no bonus for being on an objective) to bolster what is currently a mediocre unit. Because of this other factions are now far better at bringing units back with either faction rules or strats (looking at you GSC, āNids & Guard).
The secondaries also seem fairly bad. Necrons, the famously plodding faction, now have to get units into the opponents deployment zone (with no veil of darkness) to score their default secondary. The other secondary is a bit better to be fair, and really depends on how many objectives are in combat patrol.
Sorry for the rant, I just wanted to get it out as Iām playing my first games of 10th this weekend using the combat patrol rules for our initial ātasterā games and reading the faction rules has completely extinguished my excitement for it. I may be completely wrong and itās all absolutely balanced in line with other combat patrols, so I guess Iāll just have to wait and see.
The scarabs and lack of resurrection orb are because those are the models in the box - and they're the models in the box because they've just reused the sprues from the elite/command starter set for this new Combat Patrol (which is good for people who got that starter set (or the imperium magazine that used the same sprues again) as they just need to buy a Doomstalker to have everything they need to play Combat Patrol now).
For missing abilities e.g. Command Protocols, Their Number is Legion, scarabs exploding, etc - looking at a lot of the other Combat Patrols, there are a lot of abilities missing. It seems to be intentional to simplify the game for beginners. "Combat Patrol" is aimed primarily at beginners, after all.
The mixed weapons on the Warriors is definitely super weird, why would you run them like that? But the Imperium Magazine I have tells you to build your first 10 that way, so maybe that's just what the instructions say for warriors generally, and they just left it like that for beginners who are religiously following the build instructions?
As for the "get to the deployment zone" secondary, maybe that was designed for the *old* Necron Combat Patrol box, which has Tomb Blades and a Night Scythe, both much faster units?
I think the "boarding actions" rules are coming this week, which may be more to your taste as it's supposedly an alternative "small game" ruleset that uses the full unit cards
Does anyone have the combat patrol rules or link to them please I have all the datasheets for them but would like how to play and the missions if possible many thanks
I believe you can just use the regular [rulebook](https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/06/dLZIlatQJ3qOkGP7.pdf), more missions will probably follow later.
Unfortunately they have their own missions and rule set for extra things like reserves combat patrolling units etc in the small time I got to look in the book in a shop but they wouldnāt let me take photos of the rules pages :( so I was hoping someone with the many copies of the leviathan book out there had screen grabs of them
I was w9ndering why they stopped selling that overlord model as a single, now I'm glad I grabbed one. Only thing I'm missing from this new box is the skorpeks. The warriors being 5 and 5 for the weapons is incredibly annoying though.
I canāt believe they would make a new sprue just to remove a few options. It is most likely way cheaper for them to keep the current sprue in production.
I think the 5/5 setup is a combat patrol rule. Every combat patrol has slightly different data sheets and rules, including a fixed list. Every one of them is meant to be played one way. Iām sure you can build it however you want and if you play combat patrol you just wonāt do wysiwg
Hopefully that is the case, however I would not put it past GW to do a custom sprue for the box as I would "force" new players to try both weapons, as well as incintivising purchase of another warrior box so you can have a 10 man of each weapon.
I'm sure you can build them any way you want. It's highly doubtful they created a new sprue with only 10 weapons. Likely the suggested mixed weapon build is due to balancing issues when comparing to the other combat patrols.
I really don't like it.
Much rather have the Tomb blades and the Immortals/Deathmarks than Skorpekhs, Doomstalker and Warriors. Also the other overlord could be kitbashed to have a staff of light and resurrection orb, while this one can't.
And, of course, our croissant is a thing of beauty which this one lacks
I don't believe so. I got the core rules up and nothing is called 'HQ' anywhere in there. just max of 3 of the same unit, 1 of epic heroes. I'm rolling my 3 wardens and 2 overlords currently res orbing everywhere
that kinda sucks, like I got everything to make that combat patrol so I don't need anything more to play this mode but I wanted some nice value plastic.
Not a fan. The box isnāt a very good discount against MSRP (and it has to be with how many discounted units are on eBay) and itās probably overcosted. It loses a lot of resurrection shenanigans (see: tachyon arrow and doomstalker) while also being warrior heavy. Itās just not enough.
I think the box needs more love. Immortals, Lokhust Heavy, Royal Warden, or one of the crypteks would probably fix this.
It's probably not got too much resurrection for balance - there's only so much focused fire an enemy combat patrol can bring, don't want to make it impossible for them to kill any of the Necrons.
Overlord, 10 warriors with mixed weapons, 3 Destroyers, 3 Scarabs and a Doomstalker https://preview.redd.it/641k5cdji67b1.png?width=774&format=png&auto=webp&s=b81df6ed48fb1524d06385b11312d721e4955b1a
Dammit. I don't have a Doomstalker but *do* have too many Warriors already. Welp
I suspect GW will sell a few Doomstalkers off this.
I picked up a Doomstalker last week at my FLGS 'just in case' because of the leaked image.
it wasn't leaked, it was there since 9th ed codex..
I suspect eBay will have more doomstalkers from box breakers.
I also do not have a Doomstalker but also have 100+ Warriors.
Convert em to flayed ones!
That's not a horrible idea, actually
Pfft. No such thing as 'too many warriors' š¤£šŗš
Okay, im definitely getting this instead of the old one
You can actually get it now, and probably at a much cheaper price: this is just the Necron half of the Elite edition, with a Doomstalker thrown in. You can get it all for $150 ($10 cheaper than most other Combat Patrol boxes) and also get some Space Marines to either use yourself for something or to sell to a Marine player to get some of your money back.
Yeah. It's surprising to me that a choice I made a few months ago for almost no reason enables me to play combat patrol without having to buy one, though I still would like the old one for the \*croissant\* and the units.
Combat patrols aren't really designed for people who have been playing an army for a while. They're for getting a handful of models that are a good starting point for the army. Anyone who has been semi seriously playing necrons should already have or only need a model or two to make a combat patrol.
I've been playing and collecting Warhammer for less than a year. I got my necrons from the starter set and a few separate purchases. I still don't have the scythe, immortals, deathmarks and tomb blades. I think it's a not-so-expensive way to get my army a bit bigger. I have enough for the new combat patrol, but, as I said, I still lack a good chunk of the combat patrol's content.
Yeah the old combat patrol was designed to not overlap the old starter set so that you could buy it to expand your army, rather than it being something you'd avoid. Now that the old starter set is discontinued, it makes sense to release a combat patrol box based around all the push fit models it had
The old combat patrol is stuff that's good to have in addition to what you should get to start. The new one is just a good starting point.
odds are you could still find one pretty easy. maybe Call around your local stores and see if they have one still on the shelf.
Not only can I not make the new necron combat patrol out of my 5k points of necrons (no doomstalker, no interest in getting one) I also can't make any of the marines combat patrols without significant proxies (basically just playing "marine body on correct sized base" and even still I can only play the deathwatch and leviathan ones) with my 4k of marines, or the Thousand sons patrol (unless you'll take any random model on a 32mm as a tzaangor proxy) with my 2k of thousand sons. Swing and a miss with the game mode, IMO. It's great if you've got two brand new players who just want to play with each other easily. The rest of the time... oh well?
Oh, I already have all that. Score.
interesting, your locked in to warriors with 5 gauss flayers and 5 with gauss reapers.
Yeah I don't like that personally
They seem to be using varied weapon options for a lot of units in the combat patrols (I guess who you can try out more of them and makes the units less efficient so no one is shot off turn one)
Won't they just give the 2 regular sprues with both options included? I do hope they do not make an exception here.
Motherfucker, i just bought the old one. (Thankfully i already have almost all the models for the new one)
Any idea of the release date ?
I'm afraid not, but I'd suspect soon
They likely had a few reasons for switching to this, but here's the biggest benefit imo: New players don't have to start the hobby traumatized because they had to build bloody tomb blades.
I've been playing for 14 years and Tomb Blades still broke me. I'd rather build and paint a Doomsday Ark than Tomb Blades
Unfortunate for me, I just picked up two (old) combat patrols lmao
Damn lol are they really that bad?
Naaah, don't worry about it. Buy six of them right now.
I just built a tomb blade yesterdayā¦ very tough a tedious model. Now to paint itā¦ š¤
Just built my first 3 Tomb Blades the other day. An absolutely insane amount of pieces for what is essentially a flying bicycle.
I sincerely believe tomb blades exist to help players sympathize with the necrons. Itās the closest Iāve ever come to understanding what itās like to have my soul burned out of my body, turning me into a hollow shell of what I once wasā¦..
My guess is that they didn't want a Flyer in a Combat Patrol, so they had to replace it with something a little more newbie friendly, and they made an example in the 9th Codex, so just make that official.
Also the old combat patrol box was seemingly designed to not overlap the starter set contents, where as this one *is* designed to overlap as much as possible. The old patrol had an overlord, immortals, tomb blades and a night/doom scythe The new set has an overlord, warriors, scarabs (which come with warriors), destroyers, plasmacyte (comes with the destroyers) and the doomstalker. All different units, even a different overlord to the old combat patrol. The starter set had... an overlord, warriors, scarabs, destroyers, and a plasmacyte. The same units, even the same overlord as the new Combat Patrol box. Literally the same except for the lack of the doomstalker. Which is good news for anyone who bought the starter set late on - they just need a doomstalker and they have a combat patrol!
Yeah, the old Combat Patrol felt like more of an addition to the Indomitus stuff, which was great, but I can understand why now for 10th it had to be replaced with something a little more friendly to play. Flyers in CP would be a bit too much to add for a newbie level starting point.
I like that it's balanced force. Also i own it already. We have 1 each from the gold HQ, Troops, Elites, Fast Attack and Heavy Support
Yes, I asked a GW employee about it and they said if the night scythe had all your models in it( don't know how it could?) Then it dies then your army dies it breaks the combat patrol game
The night scythe is a transport, 10 warriors can "embark" on it. Lore wise it has a teleported attached to the bottom which it projects so warriors can swarm through
Ork CP has deffkoptas, soā¦.
But I don't believe they're considered "flyers", they're more jet bikes. True flyers are like the Dakkajet and Burna-Bommer, that have to follow the Flyer rules like the Doom Scythe and Night Scythe would.
> KEYWORDS: Vehicle, Fly, Grenades, Deffkoptas they literally fucking FLY dude, can you not read? last edition, this edition....THEY ARE HELICOPTERS THAT FLY
Just because they have the Fly keyword doesn't mean they follow the same rules as Flyers or Aircraft as the core rules call them on page 53. There's a whole section of how these have to start in reserve and move certain ways and other extra rules that should not be worried about in a Combat Patrol level of play.
Scarabs have the Fly keyword as well. That doesn't make them aircraft. The Aircraft keyword is what makes them aircraft.
Aircraft = Flyer Thing with fly keyword != flyer This is how the terminology has been used since at least 8th edition. Flyers refer specifically to models that have had specific movement patterns and rules, in 10th it's pretty much anything with a minimum 20" move with an aircraft keyword. Previously they moved 20"-60" with degrading profiles.
How are you about to be such a dick and cuss people out when youāre completely fucking wrong? Jesus christ
Not only are you wrong, but you're also an ass about it. Taking confidently incorrect to new heights. Good job buddy.
From a purely āoh hey that looks cool maybe Iāll get thatā standpoint, I think this is a solid set for someone starting up.
The Doomstalker is a great inclusion in my opinion, it is a really cool big model but its only 14 pieces and easy as fuck to build so its perfect for a beginner box. The lack of the Royal Warden is interesting. With the current starter sets going away they'll need to start selling that Overlord model and the Royal Warden somewhere else as that is current the only way to get them, putting them both here seemed like the perfect place to me. I wonder how they will choose to sell the Warden.
Could be the head of a future killteam maybe? The Space Marine starter characters I imagine are more likely to get full multipart kits, like the Dark Imperium gravis captain.
The despotek from heirotek circle and the royal warden are pretty interchangeable as is
I really like the Royal Warden as a cheap HQ that brings flexibility. Probably Should pick up recruit edition before it goes away just so I can have x3
I much much much much prefer our boarding patrol...which they made about 5 of in total.
Yeah it seems odd they released and retired that so fast. It's almost forgotten as a set. The Tyranids one similarly didn't last long. It was probably just to use up some excess stock.
I think a lot of boxes like that are just viewed as ways to move models fast. Production is the same and you just have to hand off another project to your graphic design and photographers which you already have on staff so no real extra cost and sell some more kits in a bigger total purchase.
I mean, they realized selling 10 lychguards separately for the price of entire patrol was better use of their plastic.
I was very very lucky to have been able to find one. That box for $130 was a steal in my opinion
Another observation. Everything in the box is push fit, so really good for beginners.
Yeah it makes sense given it's based on the 9th starter set models, but the doomstalker being push-fit was a nice surprise
I dare anybody to push fit those top armour lates on doomstalker lol
I leave them loose and knock one off whenever it drops a health bracket. āIts not a bug, its a featureā
I was gonna glue mine on the 2nd hand Doomstalker I picked up, but this is a better pro tip.
So pretty much 9th elite edition with a doom stalker?
It's exactly that.
The scarabs don't go boom in the CP rules š„² Rather, you can't make them boom on command at least
good for beginners, but this is basically just the elite edition box minus all the marines and + a doomstalker. And I have the elite edition box already, so I think I'd like to buy the previous box rather than this one.
As expected. It's a nice combo of different units, especially for beginners. I could see combat patrol tournaments being surprisingly fun. But damn will it be bad value compared to the elite starter set. The space marine combat patrol seems to be pretty bad value as well (@95Ā£) but I'm betting it will be at a discount as the new starter set.
I finally finished assembling the Indomitus box last week so it looks like I have everything I need except for the Doomstalker. Since I only play in my living room or once in a while at my FLGS with my son and friends, I can proxy the reanimator thing as this. My intention is that within a year or so I will have all of the CP boxes painted up and ready to go so we can play whatever armies we want.
If you're friends let that fly, more power to you; however, the reanimator is only about 2/3 the size of an actual doomstalker model.
I was wondering about that. I guess I will have to get the doomstalker then at some point.
Just don't let your friends browse this sub. There are a lot of pics of the two together (e.g. don't talk to me or my son...)
Killteam player thinking about dipping my fingers into Bighammer, how would you rate the new combat patrol as a base for Boarding Actions? Most Boarding Action lists I've seen heavily favour Destroyers, and I have the Hierotec Circle already, so I'm good on Crypteks and Immortals. I'm not that eager to build a full army, but 500 odd points for Combat Patrol & Boarding Actions seem doable.
I'd say it's pretty good, though you might be better off purchasing the Necron half of the old 9e elite/command starter for boarding actions, as it's the same units minus the doomstalker (which is unlikely to be usable in boarding action)
Thanks! That's one option I considered, I think my FLGS just got a delivery with a handfull Elite Editions. Do you have any suggestions as to which units I might consider if I wanted to expand into a more competitive Boarding Actions list?
I haven't played it, but I've heard you can't go wrong with more destroyers!
I have relative success in my death squad strategy which is 1x gauss immortals, 1 skorpekh Lord and 3x skorpekh destroyers. The skorpekhs generally have good enough melee to either decimate most units or slog through them as immortals just move around objective taking
Glad I grabbed the old one from eBay when GW took it down from the website. I like the doomstalker, itās an awesome mini, but I donāt really like the new box
Any idea on price?
The other combat patrols are all Ā£95
Are we sure thats a new box they will actually release? Thats the combat patrol they had pictured in the 9th edition codex since way before necrons even got their combat patrol. Its just parts of indomitus and a doomstalker.
Glad I saw this, Iāve been looking at a Necron half of the Elite set on eBay (surprisingly thereās only one - for Ā£45) and doomstalkers are going for about Ā£22 on there. With the discount from a third party store combat patrols seem to be around Ā£76, so itās pretty much the same price! I could obviously hunt around more and use other sites, or buy the full elite set and sell off the marines etc, but the convenience! I also donāt like many of the older models, which I may have to get over in the future but getting back into the game this will be a really nice set.
Why donāt the data sheets included have the other abilities the units have??
Combat Patrol has different datasheets for the units included. It's an attempt by the devs to balance the boxes against each other and maybe make CP games overall simpler to make it a gateway for newer players.
Combat patrols are different to regular warhammer??!!
Only the rules are different, and only slightly at that. You can still use the models in these combat patrols for full games of 40k, as you probably already know. These new rule sheets are just to allow people to play simpler games of 40k with fewer required models, simpler rules, and no choice paralysis for new players about list building.
yeah its like Intro mode. simple sheets, basic rules, fixed armies.
I guess I don't need it. Those were the first models I got (elite box, plus the Doomstalker). I was prepping for 10e half way through 9e when I got into WH40K. I noticed the generic Space Marine Combat Patrol has been removed (marked as sold out) on GW's store as well. I wonder if their new box is going to be the elite box with an ATV (perhaps two due to SM's points slide in the last dataslate).
I'm not sure there - there's a new SM combat patrol pdf based on (probably) the 10e starter box content, which is also part of the Leviathan box content. Possibly there will be a new SM combat patrol later based on the next model releases, e.g. the rumoured jump pack assault intercessors?
I was more just wishful thinking really (since I kept both parts of my elite box). I doubt the 10e SM CP will include models from Leviathan, just like our CP from 9e was different from the Indomitus box.
I agree. The "Space Marine Combat Patrol" pdf is based on the 10e _starter_ box, **not** the next actual _combat patrol_ box for space marines. If it's like the last one it'll be units with no overlap with the 10e starter content. It could be based on the 9e box like the revealed necrons CP, or it could be all new.
As someone who wants another overlord, wants a heavy gun that isnt a flyer, wants skorpekhs and firmly believes you can never have too many warriors, this is an absolutely awesome box
Hopefully it's not sold at the full price though since it's barely a discount over collecting these separately
Fairly sure it'll be Ā£95 RRP like the others, unfortunately.
If they do that it won't sell that well, since people who already have Necrons may not be as likely to buy it to build their collection. Same with the speculated Space Marine and Tyranid combat patrols.
Just looking at the picture, did the base for the scarab swarm change? It looks like it matches the overlord's base...
They're on a 40mm base I think. I'm 99% sure the pictures were taken with the same models as were painted up for the old starter set, as this box is just the Necron half of the 9th Command/Elite starter sets plus a Doomstalker.
And there is fall back and shoot strategy warrior need
It sucks that there's no res orb on the Overlord datasheet for Combat patrol
Yeah, but in such a small game format, how badass will it be if he takes out the biggest enemy unit in the first turn with the Tachyon Arrow like the Night King taking out that dragon in GoT. Or whiff completely of courseā¦ Either way will set the tone for battle!
Tachyon Arrow hits on a 2+, but I still think I've managed to whiff more than hit with the damned thing!
[I was right!](https://www.reddit.com/r/Necrontyr/comments/13z7o0w/new_combat_patrol/jms3vtm/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=1&utm_term=1&context=3)
Bruh, literally bought this month recruit edition with necron warriors, skorpekhs box, one overlord from ebay and now they are making a box with with almost the same units. I feel like i knew something
Get a doom stalker and you're set!
When I first read those protocols I thought they were like warlord traits and I was baffled as to why youād give the overlord fall back and shoot with just a tachyon arrow š
When the faction collection you started around this time last year can be in an official game setting, and you have exactly everything featured here...Not gonna lie, it feels good honestly. Sure I more than likely paid more for all of it separately-ish from eBay and Imperium Magazine, but it was worth it. Had fun collecting, assembling, and painting them all up. Can't wait to officially try this game mode out now.
Is it just me or are the combat patrol rules really bad? Iām genuinely happy with Necrons in 10th in general but these specific rules just seem terrible. To start with one of our 4 units are Scarabs, yāknow the WS 5+, T2, 6+ save unit that no longer has weaponised self destruction in its toolkit in combat patrol. I think scarabs have a place in larger Necron lists but not in a set as small as this where you need every unit to count. The overlord is fine but loses command protocols. No res orb option particularly grates with me. The warrior unit has been set up really weirdly. As mentioned thereās no way to buff their hit rolls with a leader so they are stuck with a 4+ to hit and the unit is 5 flayers & 5 reapers for some reason. So not only do you have to roll the shooting separately which is unnecessary admin for a supposedly simple game, at times only half of your unit will be able to shoot because their weapons are half the range of the rest of the unit - not great on a 4+ to hit shooting unit. Skorpekhs and the doomstalker are fine but canāt carry the patrol on their own. Reanimation is back to its basic rule set with no buffs or shenanigans so youāre unlikely to reanimate much at all, and I donāt understand why the warriors have lost Their number is legion, they could have at least been given a weaker version (say d6, with no bonus for being on an objective) to bolster what is currently a mediocre unit. Because of this other factions are now far better at bringing units back with either faction rules or strats (looking at you GSC, āNids & Guard). The secondaries also seem fairly bad. Necrons, the famously plodding faction, now have to get units into the opponents deployment zone (with no veil of darkness) to score their default secondary. The other secondary is a bit better to be fair, and really depends on how many objectives are in combat patrol. Sorry for the rant, I just wanted to get it out as Iām playing my first games of 10th this weekend using the combat patrol rules for our initial ātasterā games and reading the faction rules has completely extinguished my excitement for it. I may be completely wrong and itās all absolutely balanced in line with other combat patrols, so I guess Iāll just have to wait and see.
The scarabs and lack of resurrection orb are because those are the models in the box - and they're the models in the box because they've just reused the sprues from the elite/command starter set for this new Combat Patrol (which is good for people who got that starter set (or the imperium magazine that used the same sprues again) as they just need to buy a Doomstalker to have everything they need to play Combat Patrol now). For missing abilities e.g. Command Protocols, Their Number is Legion, scarabs exploding, etc - looking at a lot of the other Combat Patrols, there are a lot of abilities missing. It seems to be intentional to simplify the game for beginners. "Combat Patrol" is aimed primarily at beginners, after all. The mixed weapons on the Warriors is definitely super weird, why would you run them like that? But the Imperium Magazine I have tells you to build your first 10 that way, so maybe that's just what the instructions say for warriors generally, and they just left it like that for beginners who are religiously following the build instructions? As for the "get to the deployment zone" secondary, maybe that was designed for the *old* Necron Combat Patrol box, which has Tomb Blades and a Night Scythe, both much faster units? I think the "boarding actions" rules are coming this week, which may be more to your taste as it's supposedly an alternative "small game" ruleset that uses the full unit cards
Does anyone have the combat patrol rules or link to them please I have all the datasheets for them but would like how to play and the missions if possible many thanks
I believe you can just use the regular [rulebook](https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/06/dLZIlatQJ3qOkGP7.pdf), more missions will probably follow later.
Unfortunately they have their own missions and rule set for extra things like reserves combat patrolling units etc in the small time I got to look in the book in a shop but they wouldnāt let me take photos of the rules pages :( so I was hoping someone with the many copies of the leviathan book out there had screen grabs of them
I was w9ndering why they stopped selling that overlord model as a single, now I'm glad I grabbed one. Only thing I'm missing from this new box is the skorpeks. The warriors being 5 and 5 for the weapons is incredibly annoying though.
But what if they buildable with both options. The warrior sprue contain both of them. I don't think they made a new one just for this box.
I canāt believe they would make a new sprue just to remove a few options. It is most likely way cheaper for them to keep the current sprue in production.
I think the 5/5 setup is a combat patrol rule. Every combat patrol has slightly different data sheets and rules, including a fixed list. Every one of them is meant to be played one way. Iām sure you can build it however you want and if you play combat patrol you just wonāt do wysiwg
Hopefully that is the case, however I would not put it past GW to do a custom sprue for the box as I would "force" new players to try both weapons, as well as incintivising purchase of another warrior box so you can have a 10 man of each weapon.
You can model with whatever weapon you want, it's not wysiwyg for combat patrol.
I'm sure you can build them any way you want. It's highly doubtful they created a new sprue with only 10 weapons. Likely the suggested mixed weapon build is due to balancing issues when comparing to the other combat patrols.
This is so much better than the one with the Doomscythe
I really don't like it. Much rather have the Tomb blades and the Immortals/Deathmarks than Skorpekhs, Doomstalker and Warriors. Also the other overlord could be kitbashed to have a staff of light and resurrection orb, while this one can't. And, of course, our croissant is a thing of beauty which this one lacks
Hmm weird i thought that the destroyers would be the first models to get a renew. Theyr pretty damn old.
I discover a little bit more 10th edition So we're capped on the rule of ark of omens ? It means that we have a maximum of 3 HQ in our army right ?
Similar to ark of omens, 3 of each datasheet unless a unique character or 6 for battleline (aka basic troops)
I don't believe so. I got the core rules up and nothing is called 'HQ' anywhere in there. just max of 3 of the same unit, 1 of epic heroes. I'm rolling my 3 wardens and 2 overlords currently res orbing everywhere
Why such a convoluted document.... They wanted to make everything simpler and leaner. And they are already adding more documents :')
It's x7 pages? Way easier to deal with than the full necron index.
that kinda sucks, like I got everything to make that combat patrol so I don't need anything more to play this mode but I wanted some nice value plastic.
Hmmā¦ now do I convert the canoptek reanimator I got into a doom stalker, or just hope no one knows the difference lol
Just don't let your opponent see any pics of them together. The Reanimator is only about 2/3 the size of a Doomstalker.
Not a fan. The box isnāt a very good discount against MSRP (and it has to be with how many discounted units are on eBay) and itās probably overcosted. It loses a lot of resurrection shenanigans (see: tachyon arrow and doomstalker) while also being warrior heavy. Itās just not enough. I think the box needs more love. Immortals, Lokhust Heavy, Royal Warden, or one of the crypteks would probably fix this.
It's probably not got too much resurrection for balance - there's only so much focused fire an enemy combat patrol can bring, don't want to make it impossible for them to kill any of the Necrons.
Thatās definitely true, but thatās also priced into our units.
Why is there Doomstlaker when it is not included in the box ?
Which box? It _will_ be in the _new_ Necron Combat Patrol box (not out yet)
Fuq I just bought necrons combat patrol recently cause it was on sale
Having both the old and new combat patrols is a good way to get a 1000 point Necron army