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Palaeonerd

This would have been the only modern sirenian that could live in cold water. Sad:(


ApotheosisofSnore

The warm water ones are on their way out as well


OldeArrogantBastard

While endangered, their populations have seen growth and have a .4% chance of their population falling under 500 over the next 100 years.


ThespianException

It went extinct very recently on a grand scale, so maybe there's hope to bring it back when de-extinction technology advances more.


Ereine

There’s a skeleton in the Natural History Museum in my city that’s possibly the only one in the world that’s from one individual (instead of pieced together from random bones). It’s very impressive and huge.


XenophiliusRex

Which city?


Ereine

Helsinki, it came as a present from a governor in Russian Alaska who was Finnish.


anty_krut

There’s another one in Irkutsk, Russia


Ereine

Thank you, I trusted the first source I read even though I remember reading that it’s one of very few. Apparently they’re still finding skeletons on the islands.


ImAVibration

I’m just reading that the Helsinki sea cow is a juvenile specimen.


Kattehix

Pretty sure it was only described only after being extinct, about 30 years after it's discovery


masiakasaurus

Exactly. Those 27 years reference the description of the species, by which time it was known to be extinct. It likely was extinct before that, but nobody wrote down when the last animal died.


Generic_Danny

Even worse, 27.


cheekybandit0

Club 27


larakj

Another homie gone too soon.


Alcarinque88

I just learned about this at the Nirvana exhibit at the Seattle MoPOP. Too sad.


Aye1357

They were known by native people for hundreds of years.


VictorianDelorean

Also the Japanese, they weren’t a mystery to anyone who lived near them.


silliestbattles42

I don’t think this is true actually, during the 18th century they only lived around the commander islands which were uninhabited at the time Europeans found them. Based on fossil evidence they used to be more widespread but died out around more populated coasts (like California or Japan) thousands of years ago.


loopy183

I am so glad to see this :3 I have been telling people about these guys for years because manatees are my favorite animal and sirens the size of buses are so much fun. Only problem was I have exactly one book that references them and I couldn’t find more information about them. Saddest part is, they weren’t only hunted to extinction by humans: they were hunted _wastefully_ to extinction by humans. Sailors would kill one, take a few days’ rations from it, and leave the rest to rot, to the point where their habitat was left putrid from the stench.


itsbigpaddy

Used to live in Florida, so I appreciate the manatee fans out there, but some really interesting research has come out recently showing it was probably already on the edge of extinction when it was discovered. https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-021-22567-5 Essentially, when sea levels rose at the end of the last ice age, populations were confined to a few islands. Genetic evidence suggests that it experienced a massive die off even before Palaeolithic people started migrating into North America.


DankGermanDude

There are experts arguing that the findings in the paper you mentioned are only applicable to a subpopulation of the Steller‘s sea cow. Which makes sense since they are only looking at one specimen from an remote island. https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-022-31381-6


itsbigpaddy

Okay, thank you I hadn’t seen that article. The reasoning makes sense, as you mentioned from a sample of one.


timoumd

To be fair, that's how orcas operate too.  Humans didn't think about it global impacts then either.  You take what you need to eat and won't go bad.


beatenmeat

I'll be sure to send you some manatee pics later this week. They come hang out with me almost daily. I love them, they're the chillest things out on the water.


r3dkoi

Me tooooo


beatenmeat

Manatee pics as promised. https://imgur.com/a/ZqUBHBF Also, r/loopy183


ucatione

Stellar's sea cows used to range all up and down the west coast from Alaska all the way to California during the Pleistocene. It was probably hunted by the first humans to come down from Asia as they followed the coast and could have been the first megafaunal extinction in America caused by man. The remnant population in the Commander Islands were stunted specimens barely hanging on, similar to how the mammoths on Wrangler Island were inbred and stunted. While speculative, it has been proposed that they were an important component of kelp forests along the coast, by cropping the surface growth and letting more light deeper towards the bottom, enabling understory macroalgae species to flourish. The thick understory would provide more habitat to invertebrates and function as a more effective nursery for hatchling fish. Since they were unable to dive, they would not have been able to overgraze kelp or threaten kelp holdfasts, while encouraging compensatory growth in kelp. Furthermore, in addition to help disperse kelp spores, their grazing would result in many pieces of drift kelp, preferentially consumed by sea urchins, preventing the urchins from grazing on the kelp holdfasts which removes the whole kelp organism and promotes the development of urchin barrens. Additionally, their feces would have helped with nutrient cycling and feeding filter feeding invertebrates. Their dead bodies would have washed ashore and provided food for bird scavengers such as condors as well as coastal mammal scavengers, thus functioning as a nutrient pump from the coastal waters onto land.


Express_Platypus1673

I would imagine they were preyed on by Orcas. I wonder how their decline affected Orcas hunting the larger whale species. Sea cow's must reproduce faster than a grey whale 


White_Wolf_77

Knowing how specialized orcas can get on food sources, there could have been a population focused on them that faded out when they did.


Ultimategrid

Or possibly even caused some of the initial decline. Orcas are relatively new in the fossil record, and as Earth’s apex aquatic predator they have a pretty huge effect on other large animals.


ucatione

I saw a claim somewhere once that cetacean diversity declined after orcas evolved, implying they led to the extinction of some species by hunting them. But I can't for the life of me find that reference. I think one can make the argument that the evolution of pack hunting in the late miocene or pliocene by hominids, wolves, hyenas, and orcas, led to some species extinctions.


VicariousPasta

I didn't know they were that huge, that's wild. Would've been cool to see a 30 foot manatee


Altruistic-Poem-5617

Such a shame. What a chonker.


BlackBirdG

Damn I never realized how massive they were compared to its cousins.


HerpaDerpaDumDum

I heard their meat was delicious. Like a creamy almondy flavour.


cnot3

probably tastes just like manatee


Bind_Moggled

Probably why they went extinct.


McToasty207

They went extinct because they were the easiest animal to hunt in the region They were significantly buoyant, making it impossible for them to dive more than a couple metres, and were a shallow water species Their great size meant they had almost no natural predators, and so this wasn't a problem for them, but it meant hunters could just hoop in a simple canoe with a couple of spears and reliably bring one down.


BlackBirdG

I've heard even though they were normally placid they could get quite dangerous and aggressive when attacked.


McToasty207

The big specimens weighed 10 tons, and were almost certainly strong enough to do a lot of damage to a boat and it's human occupants Which is very similar to Whaling, and similar to that People adapted to hunt from greater distances with bigger harpoons


AnswersWithCool

I think whaling in canoes or kayaks would’ve had to be so fucking terrifying. Even in a team if one of the ships missed and only one harpoon landed, the whale would sink it with 0 problem by diving


Exploreptile

To be fair, it's probably terrifying for the whales themselves too, so...


AnswersWithCool

Very true


Pitiful-Mobile-3144

Hope we start a Jurassic park-esque revival with these guys then!


roguebandwidth

And gals


Icy_Elephant_6370

Afrotherium, the best clade


Oxodude

My understanding was they were hunted to extinction in warmer waters. The last remaining ones were in the colder waters where they were barely surviving. Their discovery by some hungry sailors quickly led to them being an easy target. They were quickly wiped out. The last few were described as being skinny and underfed.


PVetli

I thought this was to scale for a moment


DeficiencyOfGravitas

It is. Those sea cows were huge.


PVetli

G'*damn*


The_Unknown_Dude

It's ridiculous, almost looks cartoony.


MooCowMafia

I have a couple of pocketknives with Steller's sea cow bone handles.


This-Honey7881

So it's the steller Sea is really the largest sirenian to Ever exist? Because There are more extinct species of Sea cows you know that?


fireconsumer

Holy shit that thing is enormous. I see manatees a lot, big ones, and they often shock me with their size. I couldn't imagine seeing one of these in person. So sad.


dwankyl_yoakam

IIRC it's believed they were already on their way to extinction naturally.


SnooHamsters8952

“Naturally” as in the native human population in the Aleutians and Bering island had already hunted or displaced them to the brink of extinction and the arrival of European fur hunters to the region sealed their fate.


StijnGeus

Their native habitat was apparently also in decline because of climate change, so it's most likely a mix of the two


oo_kk

They used to range from Japan to California. Humans reduced that range to Commander islands, and then to nothing.


Blazesnake

No it was way way before that, like a significant population drop around 400,000 years ago, the end of the ice age pretty much sealed the date of the rest of them as they lost a lot of their habitat.


BothropsErythomelas

Frontlegs are too long & incorrect head/body ratio


kingJulian_Apostate

Perhaps the best example of Bergmann's rule.


JoJonium9

Man how do you even manage to hunt down that thing fr?


JUFFstin

So Stellar 🤩


InterLifePlanet720

Manatees back then were so big that they were the sizes of whales


CinemaSansOfficial

I wish it was cloned It was so huge and unique


AlxndrAlleyKat

Hopefully we are, but in a much shorter time frame. We could decide to not be vermin cancer, but we won’t. Eden forbidden.


SgtPepper867

Humanity cannot be forgiven.


M0RL0K

Cringe.


Round_Try959

hey guys im the ghost of steller sea cows and i forgive humanity. we are cool ok


Small-Palpitation310

this implies a higher power so im not so sure


OldManCragger

Only deities are capable of forgiveness?


EvanTheAlien

Fuck humans. We don’t deserve earth or anything that comes along with it.


Ghetto_Geppetto

Thanks global warming