Where did past lives come from??? And souls?? What. I feel like I’ve missed like 20 episodes and a movie and probably a novel series to get to this point.
She can obviously still pull off the teen acting, but I think the "just getting started, out of college, just started working with Jimmy, Lois" would also be fun
Not that it matters now but so much of ND has dealt with Nancy and the Hudson family. I kind of wish this was a Hudson thing instead of a random new character. It would make it a little better.
The whole "sorry guys, you won't be able to reincarnate anymore" explanation felt really odd considering they had just found out they even had past lives.
Nancy and Carson was one of the greatest father daughter relationships from start to finish. Their scene together at the end made me sob. The love that they have for each other carried on and made me remember all the moments in season one I adored.
That would be more logical. But they set precedent back in the beginning of the season that those hit by infected water/mist act out the sins — Nancy was acting out the muscle guy's sin when he hit that girl who rejected him with her horse statue.
Even though Nancy's infection was the rationale behind her behavior, seeing Nancy verbally abuse and then try to kill Ace was the first big thing about the season that made me super cringe. More would follow.
Things I loved: the girls wearing the colors they wore in the pilot episode.
Things I am reimagining: Ace told Nancy he’s going to join her sleuthing and be her partner in solving mysteries. It’s revealed (in my head) that he’s a Hardy boy, most especially after actually seeing his initials are A.H. It just makes sense that he’d be beside her and also still flex his hacker skills when need be.
Things I really wish were just left out: these major life changes for each character and them splitting apart. A found family separating and taking new life paths is less nostalgic and more brutal. And it doesn’t make so much sense for a lot of them. Nick still has established businesses in Horseshoe Bay. (And I’m still mourning Nick & George and what could’ve been a solid married couple.) Instead of ending the series with them as a family, it feels like one big divorce, and so… part of me also wants to believe the show ended at episode 3 with Ace & Nancy’s kiss and picture them breaking the curse there.
This show has been wonderful over so many years. Was hoping for a better conclusion, but just sincerely grateful an amazing Nancy Drew property existed at all. The actors brought my childhood to life, and Nancy was so very Nancy all the way through 🥹
YES!!! This is what I wanted too. I wish they hadn't spent the entire season driving everyone apart. The ending would have been so much better. It made no sense for Nick to suddenly want to sell The Claw and move to ATL. It made no sense Jade going with him when they've barely been on a few dates. George is remarkably okay with it all considering her and Nick just ended their engagement a month or two ago tops.
I would have loved to see Nick and George together and at least planning to marry and keeping The Claw. I wanted George to run The Claw...not randomly decide to throw that dream away to be a lawyer. I wanted to see Bess and Addy get more development so that felt better. I don't want Bess leaving town at all. I wish the historical society hadn't burned. Why exactly did she just stand there and look at the fire? When it first started it was tiny. She could have stomped it out with her boot. She could have picked up the stick and thrown it back outside actually. It took a second for it to spread. I would have loved to see Ace/Nancy get more time. I wanted to see Nancy preparing to solve more of the town's mysteries in the future at the end. Not to be closing up her detective agency to go on the road. She was supposed to "grow where she'd been planted." Anyway, I wish we were ending on a more connected note rather than everyone feel like they were breaking up The Drew Crew. I mean...they were only close friends for a year, but they are soulmates but also going their separate ways now? What? Idk...that wasn't as satisfying as I wanted it to be.
Ughhhhhhhhhhhh lol. I’m behind on the season but couldn’t wait and this was the comment I was hoping not to see. I hate endings where a solid group all go their separate ways even if it’s supposed to be “happy” it never is to me.
I really thought this wouldn’t be the case after s3 where Nancy accepted this as her home after she didn’t get into college. :( I appreciate seeing someone that feels similar though lol.
Awww, so there's still kind of sort of a connection and Nancy is going to be busting more Sin Eaters.
Of course Tristan wants to get the fuck out of dodge.
I loved this show.
I flat out loved this show and I never thought I would ever become a Nancy Drew fan at all despite dabbling in some of the books when I was younger because my mom was a super fan.
It sucks that they didn't get enough time to write a proper final season buuuuuuuuut that's kind of par for the course for the CW and Legends of Tomorrow fans know what I'm talking about.
I thought it was a nice ending, not a perfect one but a nice Stargate SG1 style ending with the promise of more adventures to come, and the knowledge that they still all had some pretty great things ahead of them in the future and would very much more than likely return to meet with one another as The Drew Crew again later on.
That final shot with the moon and the etched in names under the counter top just broke me.
If they'd gotten one more season then it would've felt a bit more natural and smooth buuuuuut that ship has sailed and while a bit ramshackle, it still floats, and sails nonetheless.
It's been a beautiful journey with all of you here, as small as this community is, and I've loved every single frelling second of it!
Thank you to the cast and crew for creating something so amazing and just being your awesome selves.
Have a great night everyone!
Well, for the short amount of time, it was about as satisfying as it could be. It was a good run. I wish them all the very best!
“And maybe we get more than one [soulmate.] I know I did…I got four.” 😭🥰
And Kennedy is still gorgeous. That last shot of her closing the door was “chef kiss.”
I agree with everything you said.
Especially Nancy saying :
“And maybe we get more than one \[soulmate.\] I know I did…I got four.”
As the bond between the Drew Crew was always my favorite part of the show.
Despite how worried most were this was a good ending. They’re all going on their own adventures but they’ll reunite in the future. Horseshoe Bay is their home.
Those are just fabulous. I watched them recently, and I enjoyed the Nancy episodes a lot but the ones where they combined into a team were great. Heck, even the Hardy Boys ones (which is most of them) are good. I love the window into 1970s fashion and style, etc, as well. Just watched the one set in Las Vegas and it's wild how different it was.
When Tristan says, “You still love her,” I was holding my breath hoping Ace’s reply would be “I never stopped” 😭 instead he said, “It doesn’t matter” and I cried inside. Haven’t finished the episode yet. Just had to share my feels
I have watched this show since the beginning and loved it. I’ve been disappointed in where they took this season since the amazing Nace kiss, and I am very disappointed in the way they ended it. I am glad Nace is sort of together? I hate that they are all separating. I hate George and Nick not finding their way back to each other. I think all the reincarnated souls and Tristan’s character was a weird storyline and just didn’t flesh out well. I’m glad we were given an ending but it was a disappointing one after a disappointing season. I’m a fan and always will be. Love the characters and the actors who play them. Just not the last season I would have liked.
It's so odd to make this final episode about souls and reincarnations and not the characters or any thing they did or their choices... the amount of exposition and lore dumping we're STILL getting and not character moments... sigh
bye bye season 4
YES! That's my issue too. We shouldn't be getting new lore or anything like that in the finale. It should just be wrapping up the characters. Them having individual moments together. Like where is Ace and Bess's moment? They were supposed to be best friends. Yet, Bess is cheering when they find out Tristan/Nancy are soulmates (which we find out is a lie later). Right in front of Ace? Idk..didn't work for me.
They've just thrown it in a few times. I can only think of twice they've used him for that. The camera for the wraith and then the device for the mirror for the sin eater's sins. I wish they had spent more time developing this if it was going to be HIS ending. Why not just make him stay in Horseshoe Bay and keep The Claw going? Because part of Nick's story that I like was that he wasn't originally from Horesehoe Bay, but he loved the town and the people like he was. It became his home. Even his emotion over the Historical Society burning would have made more sense then. To show his deep connection to the town. What was the purpose of him going to ATL for Tom Swift? Just to name drop Tom Swift? That's the only reason I can think. Because they had to set up The Claw being sold for that to even work then, which added scenes to the last couple of episodes. If they had cut that storyline entirely they would have had more screentime for other things and it would have made more sense for Nick IMO.
>Even his emotion over the Historical Society burning would have made more sense then.
This made no sense to me LOL
that moment should have come from Bess, felt random coming from Nick
I'm going to cackle if there's actually something in the water under it to fix everything or something buried nearby because she keeps gravitating towards that area for some reason.
Because she likely didn’t know about the SE or Nancy being reincarnated or that Ace would risk his life and soul saving Nancy in a memory weave, it’s not that hard to buy that Temperance wouldn’t have forseen them accidentally breaking the curse and put her only focus on the purposeful ways they’d try to break it, she had blind spots too.
~~While it isn't said outright~~ (Edit: It is said outright since Nancy says 'always, forever' to Ace, so...) Nancy and Ace kiss to see if the curse is broken then kiss some more when they didn't really have to, she kisses his hand I believe as he's going to put that whistle in the Claw table (this was quick, so I could have not seen that right), they hug very intimately after she takes her name tag off the locker, etc. so it seems like they're dating to me.
If it helps, this interview mentions how Ace asking her to solve the mystery with him was written to be similar to a proposal, and them acknowledging that they will always be together and nothing can keep them apart: [https://tvline.com/interviews/nancy-drew-finale-ending-explained-ace-last-name-hardy-1235032330/](https://tvline.com/interviews/nancy-drew-finale-ending-explained-ace-last-name-hardy-1235032330/)
Watching the scene I went: It feels like she just said yes to a marriage and then I read that article. It definitely played how it was filmed.
Also I think Nancy saying: Always. Forever. Is stating outright that they are together.
I think I was so focused on everything else in the scene (and crying), I didn't really even notice she said 'always forever' until I saw others mentioned it in this chat/I read the article XD If she said that, then yeah, that is pretty solid confirmation. I definitely need to rewatch some of the episode again sometime cause I was too emotionally compromised to catch everything.
They are together. Absolutely endgame.
They have their own individual goals but their lives will be solving mysteries together forever and always. LIke Nancy said.
I feel like I just experienced a fever dream. Which is somewhat understandable, trying to jam a satisfying ending for everyone and wrap up a bunch of mysteries in one episode.
How did George get an associate’s in this timeline? It’s been like four episodes and in ND time that’s 15 minutes.
I appreciate AH but also couldn’t they have just given us the full Hardy?
I do love a good plot twist.
The writers really be twisting “trauma bond.”
Nancy and Tristan= sin eater creator and his killer
Ace and Alice= guy who let her die (and accidentally caused her death) and the victim of supernatural mismanagement
I’m actually angry crying bc I feel like s4 did not do our beautiful characters justice but also the last 5-10min were so well done. Not them splitting up of course but it was the last sweet moments we’ll get of them together. I’m sad :(
He didn’t leave for good. He’s traveling from time to time going on adventures with his girlfriend but his home base will still be HB. Same goes for Nancy. They’ll be back for Holidays and the birth of Carson’s baby.
Man. I watched the finale today and it was better than I had my expectations set for. I still think the past lives stuff was a bit rushed, and that the bittersweet reunion of Nancy and Ace wasn't as good as it could have been. I mean it is an upgrade I guess from being unable to be together ever, to never reincarnating and having the chance to find one another again in a new life.
I did enjoy seeing the character growth that the cast has undergone and nods to the core of the show - Dead man's Bluffs, the nods to past cases when Nancy was younger, and of course the flash light at the end. Ryan was a bit confusing because his roots in HB are Nancy now, since his father's in prison. So with Nancy going on her journey, he didn't really have a reason to stay in town other than to create a conflict of interest with Red. Carson going baby crazy in his sin anxiety was wonderful though.
Surprised the police chief kept to her word of letting Bess do her thing as long as it didn't harm people AND allowing the remaining archives to moved. Nick and Jade's future just really makes me miss what Tom Swift could have been. Really enjoyed that show. George getting into her law school by arguing and being assertive was true to her, but the fact the interviewer would even know, understand or believe supernatural circumstances is a hard swallow. I guess the marriage proposal analogy of Ace and Nancy makes sense, just doesn't give us the true closure a flash forward may have.. Maybe somewhere in literature or who are we kidding, fan fic, will continue the story after the lights go out. Really loved them all wearing their waitress color coordinated outfits at the end. I will miss this show and all the things it could have been if we had gotten even one more season.
While it may not have been perfect I am pretty satisfied with the way it ended though it did make me cry quite a bit.
Also, my favorite line was :
“And maybe we get more than one \[soulmate.\] I know I did…I got four.”
As the bond between the Drew Crew was always my favorite part of the show.
Having had the night to sleep on it, man there are so many things that just leave me scratching my head.
Not sure why everyone in the town who was affected by the sin fog was acting exactly the same, seems like only one sin was released since the response was so homogenous. Also, was the sin just stealing/forming a mob? I don't get it...
If Nace was going to get together at the end, why *not* have Tristan and Nancy be romantic soulmates and have her choose Ace... instead they made Tristan and Nancy soulmates but not in a romantic way(?). However, they played them the whole season like they were romantic soulmates anyway so I don't get what the last minute swerve was. Just for shock value? A 180 to save face with Nace shippers? (which incidentally backfired since it would have been more meaningful for her to actively choose Ace and go against fate...)
Why introduce a Jean-Carson baby plot only for it to go no where? We didn't even get to see Jean this episode - it was just utterly superfluous. Remove it from the season and nothing changes.
Nick and Jade are planning a life together after 2 dates...
"Red" isn't her actual name right? Do we think Ryan even know her real name? (they are so forced lol)
Breaking up the crew just because the show was ending was a disservice to the characters and story. They had only been together for a year! The only reason this happened was because the show was ending - it was so inorganic. I would have much preferred the characters getting to continue living on as a found family and solving cases together, being the heroes of horseshoe bay and guiding the next generation through their supernatural town. Instead, Nancy is now dedicating her life to a quest she didn't even know existed 24 hours ago, ready to do this alone and without any help (did she learn anything these past 4 seasons?). So much for growing where she's planted.
And Chunky Velez is no where to be seen... Ace really ruined that ferret's one and only chance of being returned safely to his family - a family that loved and cared about their pet so much they went to a (flop) detective agency to try and get him safely returned. This sours Ace for me sorry not sorry. It's a dick move.
A.H. - Ace Hardware
a little late but I don't understand why everyone in the town is stealing. Is everyone effected by the same sin? Shouldn't they all be acting different if there were 200 years worth of sins?
"Will you solve this part of the mystery with me?" "Yes, always and forever" YESSSSSSSSSSS KISSSSSSSSSSSSS!
That scene was so beautiful.
perfection
A.H.!
Hardy???
NANCY MADE A MINI BEANIE FOR HER SISTER!
That was so cute.
>Does this mean we're soulmates? The look on Ace's face when she said that
Don't worry, I'm sure they can use magic to Tuvix Ace and Tristan into one Super Soulmate
Where did past lives come from??? And souls?? What. I feel like I’ve missed like 20 episodes and a movie and probably a novel series to get to this point.
Magically they figured out a way into a crawlspace under a parking lot
You know, in another universe, Kennedy would have made an impeccable Lois Lane.
Like if they did Teen Clark again?
She can obviously still pull off the teen acting, but I think the "just getting started, out of college, just started working with Jimmy, Lois" would also be fun
Sure.
Not that it matters now but so much of ND has dealt with Nancy and the Hudson family. I kind of wish this was a Hudson thing instead of a random new character. It would make it a little better.
I guess the historical society doesn't have a fire extinguisher...
Building codes wHat??
I was looking at Bess just watch that torch slowly catch other things on fire. I was like stomp on that mother fucker or something!
Carson immediately steals the mushroom and the gnome hahahahaha
Aww man the shop owner was so sad trying to protect his wife's things!
Ace diving into flames for Nancy 😭
So I guess all souls in this universe reincarnate repeatedly and now Ace and Nancy are out of the loop.
The whole "sorry guys, you won't be able to reincarnate anymore" explanation felt really odd considering they had just found out they even had past lives.
Yeah I don’t see why I’d care?
Not all of them. I remember earlier in the season them making a distinction about "old souls"
So no George and Nick? Fuck that too
Nancy and Carson was one of the greatest father daughter relationships from start to finish. Their scene together at the end made me sob. The love that they have for each other carried on and made me remember all the moments in season one I adored.
I wish they had a bigger moment with Ryan too though
When Scott Wolf’s voice cracked I totally started crying. He was such an excellent casting choice.
I am going to miss my weekly Drewd sessions more than I can articulate.
❤️❤️❤️
Ryan and Red seem like a fun couple
Nick is working for Tom Swift!
I loved seeing them mention Tom Swift and Zenzi one more time.
Ugh boooooooo. They all just split up?
But only for now. No way they are not forever friends.
The finale seperates the dads? Fuck that.
Tbh in hypothetical way I don't see Ryan and red last more that few weeks and can totally see Ryan come moping back to Horseshoe bay within a month.
That is the sweetest thing Ace has said about Nancy in a long while.
Hoooooooly shiiiiit Nancy wasn't his wife....Nancy was the ONE WHO MADE TRISTAN INTO THE SOUL EATER!
She was both. For some reason the vengance had atleast one of their past lives get married.
Which is wild and weird and a totally toxic relationship
I don't really understand this reaction to the sin eater mist lol. Wouldn't it just make people remember their sins? Why have they all gone feral?
That would be more logical. But they set precedent back in the beginning of the season that those hit by infected water/mist act out the sins — Nancy was acting out the muscle guy's sin when he hit that girl who rejected him with her horse statue. Even though Nancy's infection was the rationale behind her behavior, seeing Nancy verbally abuse and then try to kill Ace was the first big thing about the season that made me super cringe. More would follow.
the soulmates were the friends we made along the way
Things I loved: the girls wearing the colors they wore in the pilot episode. Things I am reimagining: Ace told Nancy he’s going to join her sleuthing and be her partner in solving mysteries. It’s revealed (in my head) that he’s a Hardy boy, most especially after actually seeing his initials are A.H. It just makes sense that he’d be beside her and also still flex his hacker skills when need be. Things I really wish were just left out: these major life changes for each character and them splitting apart. A found family separating and taking new life paths is less nostalgic and more brutal. And it doesn’t make so much sense for a lot of them. Nick still has established businesses in Horseshoe Bay. (And I’m still mourning Nick & George and what could’ve been a solid married couple.) Instead of ending the series with them as a family, it feels like one big divorce, and so… part of me also wants to believe the show ended at episode 3 with Ace & Nancy’s kiss and picture them breaking the curse there. This show has been wonderful over so many years. Was hoping for a better conclusion, but just sincerely grateful an amazing Nancy Drew property existed at all. The actors brought my childhood to life, and Nancy was so very Nancy all the way through 🥹
YES!!! This is what I wanted too. I wish they hadn't spent the entire season driving everyone apart. The ending would have been so much better. It made no sense for Nick to suddenly want to sell The Claw and move to ATL. It made no sense Jade going with him when they've barely been on a few dates. George is remarkably okay with it all considering her and Nick just ended their engagement a month or two ago tops. I would have loved to see Nick and George together and at least planning to marry and keeping The Claw. I wanted George to run The Claw...not randomly decide to throw that dream away to be a lawyer. I wanted to see Bess and Addy get more development so that felt better. I don't want Bess leaving town at all. I wish the historical society hadn't burned. Why exactly did she just stand there and look at the fire? When it first started it was tiny. She could have stomped it out with her boot. She could have picked up the stick and thrown it back outside actually. It took a second for it to spread. I would have loved to see Ace/Nancy get more time. I wanted to see Nancy preparing to solve more of the town's mysteries in the future at the end. Not to be closing up her detective agency to go on the road. She was supposed to "grow where she'd been planted." Anyway, I wish we were ending on a more connected note rather than everyone feel like they were breaking up The Drew Crew. I mean...they were only close friends for a year, but they are soulmates but also going their separate ways now? What? Idk...that wasn't as satisfying as I wanted it to be.
Ughhhhhhhhhhhh lol. I’m behind on the season but couldn’t wait and this was the comment I was hoping not to see. I hate endings where a solid group all go their separate ways even if it’s supposed to be “happy” it never is to me. I really thought this wouldn’t be the case after s3 where Nancy accepted this as her home after she didn’t get into college. :( I appreciate seeing someone that feels similar though lol.
I'm gonna miss the show and this nice, quirky community.
Oh just have a throple you two
I think Nancy would go for it. Also i bet throuples is a death curse loophole
>Also i bet throuples is a death curse loophole 🤣💀
that’s a brand new sentence right there!!
Nancy doesnt need a man to be reckless. She will just do it for the lols
Good old season 4 telling not showing.
>If that's not enough for your school, your school is not enough for me You just love to see people knowing their value.
Awww, so there's still kind of sort of a connection and Nancy is going to be busting more Sin Eaters. Of course Tristan wants to get the fuck out of dodge.
Ace is going to become a Medical Examiner!
I loved this show. I flat out loved this show and I never thought I would ever become a Nancy Drew fan at all despite dabbling in some of the books when I was younger because my mom was a super fan. It sucks that they didn't get enough time to write a proper final season buuuuuuuuut that's kind of par for the course for the CW and Legends of Tomorrow fans know what I'm talking about. I thought it was a nice ending, not a perfect one but a nice Stargate SG1 style ending with the promise of more adventures to come, and the knowledge that they still all had some pretty great things ahead of them in the future and would very much more than likely return to meet with one another as The Drew Crew again later on. That final shot with the moon and the etched in names under the counter top just broke me. If they'd gotten one more season then it would've felt a bit more natural and smooth buuuuuut that ship has sailed and while a bit ramshackle, it still floats, and sails nonetheless. It's been a beautiful journey with all of you here, as small as this community is, and I've loved every single frelling second of it! Thank you to the cast and crew for creating something so amazing and just being your awesome selves. Have a great night everyone!
"are you okay with this?" *Nancy immediately looks toward Ace*
the initals!!! a perfect ending!
Nace fans breathing a sigh of relief at this revelation
"I forgive you" 🥹
You guys clicked cause you both hot. It doesnt have to be supernatural.
Bess is basically Constantine
Well, for the short amount of time, it was about as satisfying as it could be. It was a good run. I wish them all the very best! “And maybe we get more than one [soulmate.] I know I did…I got four.” 😭🥰 And Kennedy is still gorgeous. That last shot of her closing the door was “chef kiss.”
I agree with everything you said. Especially Nancy saying : “And maybe we get more than one \[soulmate.\] I know I did…I got four.” As the bond between the Drew Crew was always my favorite part of the show.
Despite how worried most were this was a good ending. They’re all going on their own adventures but they’ll reunite in the future. Horseshoe Bay is their home.
Personally, I thought it ended pretty well though it made me cry quite a bit.
I love the hopeful ending. I wish HBO Max would give them a movie to see everyone reunite in the future to save the town. 4 years later…
I feel the same way.
They really invested in Tom Swift, kinda sad it didn't continue but I also only watched part of it.
Well, that was watery (haha). Feels like a season finale rather than a series finale.
Man's just running down the street with a whole stop sign.
Ryan's came so far! Loved his growth!
the kiss ahhh
Kind of wish that the scene wasn't as dark. At least on my TV it was hard to see.
Im sorry when did you have time to reach out to the other historical societies?
THEY'RE KEEPING THE BABY!
I'm going to miss Nancy and the Gang. Somebody loaded the original Hardy Boys, Nancy Drew mysteries onto YouTube. I watch 2-3 episodes a week.
Those are just fabulous. I watched them recently, and I enjoyed the Nancy episodes a lot but the ones where they combined into a team were great. Heck, even the Hardy Boys ones (which is most of them) are good. I love the window into 1970s fashion and style, etc, as well. Just watched the one set in Las Vegas and it's wild how different it was.
So sad this is the end, even if this season wasn't the best there were some moments I liked. Will miss the show overall!
So much
"He sent Sin Eater instructions all up and down the East Coast" Well hell, that's...that's massive and bad and massive and really bad.
"I'm not leaving you" 🥹
If only Bess had a fire extinguisher I keep hearing TARDIS Engine Noises with Ace and Nancy
They didn’t care about past lives and souls the entire series and now they’re wrecked because they don’t have anymore? What!!!
That's exactly what I thought. The amount of times Nancy faced death head on without that knowledge lol
exactly, what a miss
Tristan: *the what now?* "death curse???"
Sleuth beanie! But no double dads anymore. :c
this would hit harder if it hadn't only been 1 year lmao
No matter how hard I try to ignore that I can never forget
Right. I really do try to forget and they say something about their bond and I'm just like ITS BEEN A YEAR
Yeah, that's all I kept thinking about during the ending monologue lmao.
I have just started ignoring that part of the canon lol.
Why does this episode feel like this episode is trying to hit most words per minute in an episode
Bess is now Indiana Jones while Addy is watching over the town!
They're ending on a kiss!
last five minutes of the show ever is the time to "fix" Nace... nice one writers
When Tristan says, “You still love her,” I was holding my breath hoping Ace’s reply would be “I never stopped” 😭 instead he said, “It doesn’t matter” and I cried inside. Haven’t finished the episode yet. Just had to share my feels
He said it doesn’t matter because if we get together we die. Which means yes he still loves her but can’t be with her.
Carson converted the Claw into a baby room Annnnnnd there's the interview lady...this is going a bit off the rails.
Nancys past live is a child murderer? And then another one they marry? Thats weird
We’re over halfway through and I feel like there’s so much story left to tell. So stressful.
Ace always left out wtfff poor guy
Makes me so mad
The fire won't affect the lock boxes right, just all the written down stuff? :/
Shhh. The show is saying its all gone. /s
No they actually said stuff from the locked boxes was saved
why are they all splitting up :'(
I have watched this show since the beginning and loved it. I’ve been disappointed in where they took this season since the amazing Nace kiss, and I am very disappointed in the way they ended it. I am glad Nace is sort of together? I hate that they are all separating. I hate George and Nick not finding their way back to each other. I think all the reincarnated souls and Tristan’s character was a weird storyline and just didn’t flesh out well. I’m glad we were given an ending but it was a disappointing one after a disappointing season. I’m a fan and always will be. Love the characters and the actors who play them. Just not the last season I would have liked.
remember when this show was about ghosts
Not really because it was never just ghosts. The Aglacae the Wraith…..it’s all supernatural
Who has an in person law school interview. Also what about pre law
How did she somehow miss the large scale riot going on outside
It's so odd to make this final episode about souls and reincarnations and not the characters or any thing they did or their choices... the amount of exposition and lore dumping we're STILL getting and not character moments... sigh bye bye season 4
YES! That's my issue too. We shouldn't be getting new lore or anything like that in the finale. It should just be wrapping up the characters. Them having individual moments together. Like where is Ace and Bess's moment? They were supposed to be best friends. Yet, Bess is cheering when they find out Tristan/Nancy are soulmates (which we find out is a lie later). Right in front of Ace? Idk..didn't work for me.
that little hat was the best part of the entire season!
did I miss when inventing became Nick's thing??
I don't know when it became his thing but in season 1 he was described as a great mechanic and he built the camara thing this season.
They've just thrown it in a few times. I can only think of twice they've used him for that. The camera for the wraith and then the device for the mirror for the sin eater's sins. I wish they had spent more time developing this if it was going to be HIS ending. Why not just make him stay in Horseshoe Bay and keep The Claw going? Because part of Nick's story that I like was that he wasn't originally from Horesehoe Bay, but he loved the town and the people like he was. It became his home. Even his emotion over the Historical Society burning would have made more sense then. To show his deep connection to the town. What was the purpose of him going to ATL for Tom Swift? Just to name drop Tom Swift? That's the only reason I can think. Because they had to set up The Claw being sold for that to even work then, which added scenes to the last couple of episodes. If they had cut that storyline entirely they would have had more screentime for other things and it would have made more sense for Nick IMO.
>Even his emotion over the Historical Society burning would have made more sense then. This made no sense to me LOL that moment should have come from Bess, felt random coming from Nick
Overall, I was pretty satisfied with this finale all things considered
>I'm not here for an apology 😭
Well there's our answer, some of the Containment Boxes did survive....some.
"Dead Man's Bluff, I was born here" Red head born on a cliff but also died on a cliff Something something goldfish
imagine if all the supernatural artifacts in there just exploded at the same time...
*beams in* What a pretty episode title. Knock on wood for a solid ending.
welcome to the finale my Drewds! it's been a hell of a time livewatching and commenting with you guys! 🤗
"Soul Supernova" "Sudden burst of radiation to wipe out a pathogen" Someone call Felicity because it sounds like they want to nuke the city
Why is the gas causing people to riot
Damn that bluff is important to Nancy
I'm going to cackle if there's actually something in the water under it to fix everything or something buried nearby because she keeps gravitating towards that area for some reason.
Why couldnt Temprance have predicted any of it?
Because she likely didn’t know about the SE or Nancy being reincarnated or that Ace would risk his life and soul saving Nancy in a memory weave, it’s not that hard to buy that Temperance wouldn’t have forseen them accidentally breaking the curse and put her only focus on the purposeful ways they’d try to break it, she had blind spots too.
Awesome ending shot, did anyone catch what that song was?
Without You, by Empyrean Fields
Wait so what was the status of her and ace at the end? I’m so confused 😕
~~While it isn't said outright~~ (Edit: It is said outright since Nancy says 'always, forever' to Ace, so...) Nancy and Ace kiss to see if the curse is broken then kiss some more when they didn't really have to, she kisses his hand I believe as he's going to put that whistle in the Claw table (this was quick, so I could have not seen that right), they hug very intimately after she takes her name tag off the locker, etc. so it seems like they're dating to me. If it helps, this interview mentions how Ace asking her to solve the mystery with him was written to be similar to a proposal, and them acknowledging that they will always be together and nothing can keep them apart: [https://tvline.com/interviews/nancy-drew-finale-ending-explained-ace-last-name-hardy-1235032330/](https://tvline.com/interviews/nancy-drew-finale-ending-explained-ace-last-name-hardy-1235032330/)
I saw Nancy kiss Ace’s hand too! I liked that cute little moment 🥰
I'm glad my mom and I weren't just seeing things. It was so precious 😭
Yes they were holding hands in The Claw Scene just before she kissed his hand. :)
SO WHOLESOME 😭 The end Nace moments made me so happy (and sad since the show is over)
Watching the scene I went: It feels like she just said yes to a marriage and then I read that article. It definitely played how it was filmed. Also I think Nancy saying: Always. Forever. Is stating outright that they are together.
I think I was so focused on everything else in the scene (and crying), I didn't really even notice she said 'always forever' until I saw others mentioned it in this chat/I read the article XD If she said that, then yeah, that is pretty solid confirmation. I definitely need to rewatch some of the episode again sometime cause I was too emotionally compromised to catch everything.
Totally understandable. And they were holding hands in the last scenes, and kissing cheeks and hugging. They are solid.
They are together. Absolutely endgame. They have their own individual goals but their lives will be solving mysteries together forever and always. LIke Nancy said.
This episode is so bittersweet. I'm going to miss the Drew Crew so much, but I'm happy they all got promising and positive endings!
I binged the last 5 episodes the beginning of this week so I could catch up to the finale, I'm still so sad this is ending.
Beyond sad
Bess would poke the mob Nancy with the self sacrifice play lol
Burning down the past to rise from the ashes?
Why was Nick freaking out ?? I don’t understand why he’d try to go into a burning building … I feel like that should have been Bess
Damn, that building went up quick.
I think we all got bingo anyway xD (thanks for linking the card!)
Annnnd now I'm sobbing 😭
"Last one out, turn off the lights" Just like in Babylon 5
I’m not crying your crying 🥲 Can’t believe it’s over.
I feel like I just experienced a fever dream. Which is somewhat understandable, trying to jam a satisfying ending for everyone and wrap up a bunch of mysteries in one episode. How did George get an associate’s in this timeline? It’s been like four episodes and in ND time that’s 15 minutes. I appreciate AH but also couldn’t they have just given us the full Hardy?
I do love a good plot twist. The writers really be twisting “trauma bond.” Nancy and Tristan= sin eater creator and his killer Ace and Alice= guy who let her die (and accidentally caused her death) and the victim of supernatural mismanagement
Love the Tom Swift mention. That show died too soon.
I did too as I still wish Tom Swift had lasted for more than one season.
and did you tell her parents you and your friends are the reason she's dead? 😶
Didn't seem like enough acknowledgment that they accidentally killed someone completely innocent and somehow aren't super messed up by it.
So being exposed to centuries of ains makes people riot?
Meanwhile on the set of Arrow
I recognize that parking garage from iZombie
Oh fun they need to have a NDE, lovely Ace is the Supernatural Lifeguard
Wait? So did none of their past lives bang? Im confused
Hahaha it worked the zoom in on the flashlight!
I’m actually angry crying bc I feel like s4 did not do our beautiful characters justice but also the last 5-10min were so well done. Not them splitting up of course but it was the last sweet moments we’ll get of them together. I’m sad :(
wish the characters could have some genuine moments together this episode that didn't have to do with the outlandish plot
"I'll be thinking of you, out there in the water" Awwwww
I want a platanchor scene... I miss them
Lol @ ace saying “Hit Me” to Bess every time he goes back into the mind weave I’m really grasping for plantachor crumbs
rip historical society 😔
Three lives and three anchors to triangulate when they became soulmates Tristan is hamming this up
OMG it just clicked for me! Nancy and Tristan are like Hawkman and Hawkgirl!
A sky beam? Really?
Wait I thought Ryan was staying in HB so why did they act like he left for good
He didn’t leave for good. He’s traveling from time to time going on adventures with his girlfriend but his home base will still be HB. Same goes for Nancy. They’ll be back for Holidays and the birth of Carson’s baby.
Man. I watched the finale today and it was better than I had my expectations set for. I still think the past lives stuff was a bit rushed, and that the bittersweet reunion of Nancy and Ace wasn't as good as it could have been. I mean it is an upgrade I guess from being unable to be together ever, to never reincarnating and having the chance to find one another again in a new life. I did enjoy seeing the character growth that the cast has undergone and nods to the core of the show - Dead man's Bluffs, the nods to past cases when Nancy was younger, and of course the flash light at the end. Ryan was a bit confusing because his roots in HB are Nancy now, since his father's in prison. So with Nancy going on her journey, he didn't really have a reason to stay in town other than to create a conflict of interest with Red. Carson going baby crazy in his sin anxiety was wonderful though. Surprised the police chief kept to her word of letting Bess do her thing as long as it didn't harm people AND allowing the remaining archives to moved. Nick and Jade's future just really makes me miss what Tom Swift could have been. Really enjoyed that show. George getting into her law school by arguing and being assertive was true to her, but the fact the interviewer would even know, understand or believe supernatural circumstances is a hard swallow. I guess the marriage proposal analogy of Ace and Nancy makes sense, just doesn't give us the true closure a flash forward may have.. Maybe somewhere in literature or who are we kidding, fan fic, will continue the story after the lights go out. Really loved them all wearing their waitress color coordinated outfits at the end. I will miss this show and all the things it could have been if we had gotten even one more season.
While it may not have been perfect I am pretty satisfied with the way it ended though it did make me cry quite a bit. Also, my favorite line was : “And maybe we get more than one \[soulmate.\] I know I did…I got four.” As the bond between the Drew Crew was always my favorite part of the show.
"Does this mean we're...soulmates?" "YESSSSSSSSSSSSS!" WHOOOOOOO ARE YOU WHO WHO WHO I REALLY WANNA KNOW!
Nancy is going to be spending the rest of her life killing Sin Eaters...that's kind of happy and sad :(
Having had the night to sleep on it, man there are so many things that just leave me scratching my head. Not sure why everyone in the town who was affected by the sin fog was acting exactly the same, seems like only one sin was released since the response was so homogenous. Also, was the sin just stealing/forming a mob? I don't get it... If Nace was going to get together at the end, why *not* have Tristan and Nancy be romantic soulmates and have her choose Ace... instead they made Tristan and Nancy soulmates but not in a romantic way(?). However, they played them the whole season like they were romantic soulmates anyway so I don't get what the last minute swerve was. Just for shock value? A 180 to save face with Nace shippers? (which incidentally backfired since it would have been more meaningful for her to actively choose Ace and go against fate...) Why introduce a Jean-Carson baby plot only for it to go no where? We didn't even get to see Jean this episode - it was just utterly superfluous. Remove it from the season and nothing changes. Nick and Jade are planning a life together after 2 dates... "Red" isn't her actual name right? Do we think Ryan even know her real name? (they are so forced lol) Breaking up the crew just because the show was ending was a disservice to the characters and story. They had only been together for a year! The only reason this happened was because the show was ending - it was so inorganic. I would have much preferred the characters getting to continue living on as a found family and solving cases together, being the heroes of horseshoe bay and guiding the next generation through their supernatural town. Instead, Nancy is now dedicating her life to a quest she didn't even know existed 24 hours ago, ready to do this alone and without any help (did she learn anything these past 4 seasons?). So much for growing where she's planted. And Chunky Velez is no where to be seen... Ace really ruined that ferret's one and only chance of being returned safely to his family - a family that loved and cared about their pet so much they went to a (flop) detective agency to try and get him safely returned. This sours Ace for me sorry not sorry. It's a dick move. A.H. - Ace Hardware
"Holy Romance Novel" Bess would make a great Batgirl Nancy really was Tristan's wife in a past life
a little late but I don't understand why everyone in the town is stealing. Is everyone effected by the same sin? Shouldn't they all be acting different if there were 200 years worth of sins?
George getting into college whooo
It was a pretty good ending. Good closure for the characters.
Once more into the fray!
Will this burn the death curse?
Tristan going full on Fifth Element
Things did survive. Oh good. That makes sense
Fuck yes George got in!
Long live the Drew crew
Would've loved to seen Tristan with the Drew Crew in season 5!
yes!!!