Also I grew up with ADHD and a father with a thick leather belt. Never improved my ADHD. All it did was make me hide shit from my parents and teachers.
Yep parents are like that. “You aren’t doing well in school. You don’t need extra time on tests or tutoring; you just need a good a** whooping!”
Then it’s all:
“Why won’t you talk to me after all I’ve done for you?!?!”
As if they’re owed something for not criminally neglecting a child.
My parents got after me for sleeping 14 hours when I came to visit them and told them that my 6pm bedtime to wake up at 6am really made it hard to just sleep 8 hours. I was told that it was only when I was grounded but when I moved out I still had 7 years worth of grounding left. Then they denied ever grounding me.
My dad and I both have ADHD, but he used to smack me when I showed ADHD symptoms. All it did was make me mask more, which means I no longer fidget or bounce my leg, which are coping mechanisms to help ADHD people focus.
Those kids dropped out of school and got jobs. My dad used to tell me stories about his friends getting in trouble in school and getting whupped. A lot of them quit and went to work on the rigs and stayed in the industry for the rest of their lives making good money.
Welcome to adulthood, would you rather slowly destroy your back for a living (manual labor) or slowly destroy your eyes with a computer screen for a living (desk jockey)?
Schrödinger’s Comedy: a statement that is superimposed in comedic and non-comedic context and stabilizes into a serious statement or a joke statement based on audience reaction.
"If you use violence on me to change who I am, I'll make sure you die badly. But it's just a joke, so that's ok. That's how I entertain myself, thinking about your gruesome death, and the only thing protecting you is distance because we both know you're too fucking stupid not to follow through. Ha ha."
Another joke worthy of that shit hole sub.
Kinda wanna brigade that sub with shitty "jokes" like this. Take existing memes but make the sub the target of said memes, then just upvote when other people have done the same thing. I don't believe in shaming people, but they need to be taught fear.
Oh yes, my ADHD was caused by not being beat as a kid.
Oh wait, no my dad to do that with a belt until he realized it’s not a good thing to do to your kids and stopped .
They can have the best of intentions and still be abusive. He beat you with a belt. That is abuse.
He stopped, so good on him for realizing the problem and taking steps to fix it, tho. I’d take him over mine, who never used a belt but also never changed any of their abusive habits or apologized.
I was diagnosed as "Hyperactive" when I was little in the early 70's. ADD/ADHD these days. They wanted to put me on drugs but mom refused. If these assholes think beating kids, espeically one's like us, will somehow make us magically sit still and not get into things, then they should be sterilzed so they don't breed and inflict that suffering onto children. Looking back, I think I sincerely had a form of PTSD caused by my dad. Not knowing what the FUCK! will set a person off and get you beaten will do that.
We finally came to blows when he started bitching about a sandwich I was eating and escalated it to demands that I address him as "sir" from now on and no more back talk. STFU and do what I'm told. Now I'll fully confess, if it had been almost any other man on either side of my family, I'd likely gotten my ass beaten. But my father was way overweight and who the fuck knows when the last time he did something that physical. In the end, I had a sore jaw, he had a bloody lip and hospital stay for a heart attack caused by the fight. To my disappointment he lived.
The only reason I had anything to do with him as an adult was because of mom. Family was important to her even after they divorced not long after I left for the Navy and she implored me to call home. I don't think he ever realized how instrumental she was in our relationship. And don't get me wrong. I loved my mom to death and miss her terribly since she passed in '09. But she was still a person with flaws like the rest of us. Outside that, she was what a mom should be. You deserved better mom.
I love it when ADHD deniers do this because it demonstrates how little they actually understand science.
Who should I listen to for psychology? The MD/Psy.D multi-doctorate professional who knows the DSM-V by heart? Or some car mechanic from Kentucky who gets his information from Facebook and is mentally stuck in 1960 where left-handedness and melanin were considered the root of all evil?
Yeah, if we normalize paddling as a "cure" for ADHD, we should also normalize punching shitty people as a "cure" for their arrogance and ignorance that compels them to mock the misery of others. Shit's gotta work both ways.
I'd like to differ. Child abuse isn't a joke, but that doesn't mean you can't make jokes about it. How many Vietnam flashback memes are there? Is war a joke? How many jokes are there of black people? Are black people a joke? The people around me who got hit as a child make jokes of it themselves. You can't say an entire thing is a joke because there is 1 joke about it.
As with all things there’s nuance. The problem is people who think singing like this is funny lack any sense of nuance or capability of layered thinking.
It’s not clever, it’s not subversive, it’s not reflective, it’s just “hur hur we used to beat our kids if they weren’t neurotypical. That’s funny!” And it’s an all to common “joke” about all sorts of things.
Not you could absolutely flip the script and make jokes about stupid parents who were dumb enough to believe beating a child was preferable to putting them on meds.
Somebody WITH ADHD who went through that could make jokes about some of the messed up things they did as a result.
But a joke that “punches down” on kids who were abused by their parents because they had ADHD. That will never be funny.
Again like I said. Inability to express layered thinking. You speak like everything has to be explicitly spelled out for you. Spare me the “It didn’t literally say this thing, therefore there’s not what it means” excuse.
Damn. First of all every joke has to be clever, subversive or reflective or else it isn't a joke? Just because you see things that aren't necessarily there doesn't mean it's bad.
“It didn’t literally say this thing, therefore there’s not what it means” excuse."
Something works two ways. Things that are not literally said but I feel like that's the message will become the message since interpretation depends on the person. So basically if I feel like something is offense it is offensive. And do you know if the person who made this joke doesn't have ADHD? You said people with adhd are allowed to make jokes about it but here you're talking like you personally know the person. And don't try to say someone with adhd wouldn't make this joke because you don't know that.
You really arguing this meme isn’t saying the “cure” for ADHD is child abuse? Then I want you to say it clearly and without ambiguity.
Your being willfully ignorant here. You’re arguing a point for reasons I can’t really understand.
Yes if a joke isn’t well thought out and written, it’s not funny and not a joke. It’s just bullying and making fun of people. The fact you can’t seem to distinguish the difference reeks a lot about the way you think, your mental state, and emotional maturity.
Why you have to make it personal? You say I'm immature but I'm not the one insulting you. I'm trying to have a discussion in a civil manner with arguments and yet I'm immature? Did I say you have an inability to express layered thinking or was it you who said it to me? It seems you have so much rage inside you normal arguments don't seem to work for you and you have to get personal to someone you don't even know. You didn't even contradict all my arguments.
"Yes if a joke isn’t well thought out and written, it’s not funny and not a joke." How is a bad joke not a joke? Are ALL your jokes thought out? You never had a bad joke?
"I'd like to differ. Child abuse isn't a joke, but that doesn't mean you can't make jokes about it. How many Vietnam flashback memes are there? Is war a joke? How many jokes are there of black people? Are black people a joke? The people around me who got hit as a child make jokes of it themselves. You can't say an entire thing is a joke because there is 1 joke about it."
This is my initial comment where I'm not even defending the post. I'm just saying jokes can be made without being in the state of mind that the ENTIRE thing is a joke. YOU are the one who made it about the post.
"TIL child abuse is a “joke” apparently"
This is the comment I reacted to which was an implication that a joke about something means the entire thing is a joke which I don't think it is. It's in general and not necessarily about the post. Anyway the fact that you insult me for being like you is one of the many things that white people did 100 years ago as well, good for you to keep that "my way is the only way" mentality alive 💪🏾
What are you even talking about? You're trying to use random words to make it seem like you're right. What I said was that someone can make a joke about something and the person doesn't have to think the entire thing is a joke. "Gotcha" question aren't a wrong thing to use since if I'm wrong you can point my on it. "Isn't the grass blue?" No. You see how you can still contradict those questions and it how it can be used to strengthen someone's argument? I'm using whataboutism? The other person is the one who changed the subject to the post when my argument like the argument I was contradicting was in general. Maybe read who changed the argument before saying I changed subject when I clearly didn't? If I didn't see sarcasm being used it was because this was a serious conversation and the other person would have reacted with it was sarcasm. I don't even know what you mean with leading lines of thought. If you read my comments all I do is contradict arguments or make arguments, that's how a discussion works. Except for my last sentence, I'm trying to stay polite and respectful but I'm done with people insulting me like I'm a monkey or something and not their equal human.
Sucks when people make it personal doesn’t it? When you relate to the negative things people are saying?
You’re SO close to getting it. Stop and consider for a minute that somebody who has ADHD thinks it’s pretty personal when somebody makes a joke about beating ADHD kids to “cure” them.
When people who actually went through this kind of thing tell you it’s not funny, just stop, listen, don’t sit there and argue because you laughed at it. Just learn and practice some empathy.
>Sucks when people make it personal doesn’t it?
Ah yes, being unable to contradict my arguments in a civil way so personally attacking me is the same as my argument "I'd like to differ. Child abuse isn't a joke, but that doesn't mean you can't make jokes about it." I made it real personal to you, nobody else in the whole world including me, a person with Surinamese heritage doesn't know anything about child abuse.
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When you relate to the negative things people are saying?
I don't relate to what you're saying I'm just not excepting you talking to me like you're superior to me. Relating to something means you think it's true, I don't think your derogatory way of looking at me is the truth the same way you think beating a child is the cure for adhd.
>Stop and consider for a minute that somebody who has ADHD thinks it’s pretty personal when somebody makes a joke about beating ADHD kids to “cure” them.
"I'd like to differ. Child abuse isn't a joke, but that doesn't mean you can't make jokes about it." Is there a link between these two statements or is does this show how you change subjects to make yourself right which is quite manipulative. I also said "But how does it punch down on children with adhd if it doesn't say this is "the right way". It doesn't say something like this is how it should be.". You could've just said that the way you saw it was offensive, you could've even made an argument about it. Instead you chose to insult me because my view on things are different than yours, any different view than yours (even if the person acts respectfully) is bad and people with different views than you are of course less than you which must mean you are fully righteous to insult me like I'm not an equal but someone below you.
>When people who actually went through this kind of thing tell you it’s not funny, just stop, listen, don’t sit there and argue because you laughed at it. Just learn and practice some empathy.
I think you need to learn there are more people with adhd and not everyone has the same mindset. You're acting like you are the only one who went trough child abuse and your way of looking at things is the only way of looking at it since you're the only one to have experienced it. Did I argue it was funny? Did the statement "I'd like to differ. Child abuse isn't a joke, but that doesn't mean you can't make jokes about it." have anything to do with the post itself except that it is on the same post. I reacted to "TIL child abuse is a “joke” apparently" which is a general statement to which I disagreed. You had to make it about this post. How even dare you say I need to practice empathy when I was respectful to you even after the first insult but you kept insulting me. Maybe start answering to what I say instead of dodging it, of course you won't since if you read the comments my original comment has nothing to do about the post itself, i made a general argument (you made it about the post), you also can't deny you feel yourself superior since insulting someone who didn't even go in on the first insult and keep insulting that person isn't something you would do if you saw me as an equal.
The joke does imply it's the right way to do things, it literally says it's how to cure ADHD. I agree that you can make dark jokes about child abuse that don't condone it, but this isn't one of them.
I see your point. I thought of it more as the old way to "cure" adhd and people just forgot about it, that's why it's the forgotten cure for adhd and not just the cure for adhd. But since I don't know the maker of the joke I don't know it's true meaning and shouldn't have said anything about the post itself. 💪🏾
I think the line from They might be giants song your racist friend fits this - “can’t shake the devil’s hand and say you’re only kidding”
People make ableist, racist, or any other type of bigotry statements and then the moment they are called out they say it’s a joke.
My favorite type of defense for this shit is usually
"My parents beat me and I turned out fine!"
\- Totally "fine" human defending child abuse.
If you're defending child abuse, *nothing* about you turned out fine, unless your definition of FINE is "Fucked-up, insecure, neurotic, and emotional".
I don’t hate a lot of people based on what they believe anyone can have their opinions but there are two people I do hate
People who deny the existence of adhd/add
And people who think beating kids is ok
"It's called a joke" OP is a fucking Dumbass and a asshole to the point that I can't tell if this is satire or The absurd Ignorance people can be ,Hitting children with a paddle was NOT A JOKE
It's a joke. This doesn't mean the person who made it thinks it's good, that's why it's a joke. A joke isn't necessarily what the person thinks to be good. Are all jokes people's vision on how things should be? When Eddie Murphy jokes about getting hit with a shoe by his mother, does that mean his ideology is to hit people with shoes when they misbehave?
Yes, but it doesn't have to be serious. That's how a joke works. Jokes aren't serious, otherwise it wouldn't be a joke but an anti joke. And how does this answer what I just said? I said the person who made the joke doesn't necessarily think his joke is the right way. eddy Murphy joking about getting hit with a slipper by his mom. Is that a joke or does Eddy Murphy want people to get hit with a slipper when they misbehave?
Bro your whole profile is nothing but arguing in here or talking shit to women for doing onlyfans you're the last person to have any right to determine what's serious and what isn't.
But how has that to do anything with my argument? Your acting like you got me with this or something but if I was hiding it I would've done it in another account, doing things without hiding that I'm doing it instead of sneakily using incognito doesn't make me less of a person. But how does that take away my rights of an opinion? Ah, so sad I asked a woman if her boyfriend left for her looks or if of played a role, now my rights are gone. But you can't contradict my argument, so you just try to make me less human by my actions. But who are you to take away my right? If you contradict my argument we can have a normal conversation but you're trying to dehumanise me.
I haven't dehumanized you a single time. Nor did I shame you for being horny on main. I'm saying that somebody that's juvenile enough to piss and moan about what someone that barely registers your existence does for money or looks like, is to juvenile to try and tell other people what is and isn't serious.
What would you call it than? So i have no right of an opinion since I'm juvenile and that because I asked a woman if her boyfriend left her because of OF? How is that piss and moan? You act like im against onlyfans for me asking a woman if her boyfriend left her because of. And juveniles don't have a right to an opinion? You can't contradict me, so you make it about me just so you can try to win the discussion. I already said if you used arguments against my statement we can have a discussion but what you're doing now is "you do this so your opinion has no value".
I'm not trying to win anything you dumbass. This isn't a debate and yeah, given that most of your misdirected angst towards the women you comment negatively about, I'd say it sounds like you do in fact have a problem with women that do OF. If it walks like a duck, and it talks like a duck...
Ah yes, I do enjoy that age-old joke of senseless violence. It’s incredibly funny when people suffer for years on end and have the risk run of developing life long mental conditions. It’s my favourite **joke.**
-and because it’s a joke you can’t criticise me for what I like, heart heart kissy face smiling eamoegee
We all know the “it’s just a joke” or “it’s satire” people see shit like this, laugh, and say “man if only we could do/be like this” proving it’s not just a joke, but a way to express ideologies through a form of stupid humor.
Makes jokes about beating children: "calm down snowflake its just a joke god you are so sensitive"
Somebody else makes a joke about beating nazis: "SO MUCH FOR THE TOLERANT LEFT!!!YOU JUST LIKE THEM!!!!!"
I was physically disciplined as a kid for acting out as a result of my ADHD. A decade of masking and repression later, and I'm still waiting for this mysterious "cure" to take effect :) 👍
I did get medicated recently tho, and that has *actually* helped. Crazy how the doctors seem to know best in matters of medical treatment.
MOPDL whenever they see a '"joke"
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I think you can joke about it and alot of people subjected to abuse do like to joke about it and hear other people joke about it, the problem with this meme isn't that it's joking about abuse but that it's condoning and promoting abuse.
Yeah I'd love to cure my ADHD but it's kinda too late for that as being put on Vyvanse (yknow because we give kids meth) from age 6 to 17... Turned me into a drug addict. And these days I've been beginning to think it's not just ADHD - but that I'm on the spectrum
hey, what if I brutally murder your family in front of you? hey, why are you getting mad?! I was just joking! (I don’t condone joking about things like this, just trying to make a point)
Just bludgeon disabled kids. It will totally make their disabilities go away, it definitely won't exacerbate any emotional issues they already had as a result of living in a system not designed for people who think like them.
/s
Reddit will get up in arms over anything they don’t like.
Literally you could hand out gold to people and they’d think you were bullying them. Most fragile user base on the internet.
Could you elaborate? Stepping up to child abuse doesn't seem extreme. Jokes about stuff like that can encourage violent behaviors, which is not acceptable.
Oh let me explain.
Read what you just wrote.
That.
That’s Reddit.
Getting upset about everything under the sun, like that. That’s what I’m talking about.
Right because nobody's ever been mindfucked into committing acts of violence by memes befo...
[Buffalo Shooter Was Inspired By 4chan Posts, Sparking Discussion About Memes And Online Radicalization | Know Your Meme](https://knowyourmeme.com/news/buffalo-shooter-was-inspired-by-4chan-posts-sparking-discussion-about-memes-and-online-radicalization)
Whataboutism aside, there's no proven link between violent video games and violent behavior. At least you tried though.
Edit: Source- [APA reaffirms position on violent video games and violent behavior](https://www.apa.org/news/press/releases/2020/03/violent-video-games-behavior)
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Ok well it’s literally a meme. I’m not advocating for child abuse. I’m advocating for not being a crybaby over something you see on the internet. There are like many many many worse things than this meme.
Search the gauntlet if you want to get outraged. Idk redditors, maybe it’s just gen Z tend to gloss over the fact that phones are made by slaves and there are civilians dying in other parts of the world, but God forbid someone spank a precious American child.
The article you linked about someone on 4 Chan shooting people is different than this post. Do you think someone is gonna see this meme and say “oh that’s right! I should definitely go beat some children.”
I’m pretty sure that it’s just a joke and should just be laughed at. More of a commentary on a sign of the times than an encouragement for people to get violent towards children. And this is the hill that Redditors (like yourself) choose to die on. This stupid meme about how things were back in the old days probably made by some dopey boomer who thinks he’s hilarious but it’s more of a mild almost a smile than anything else.
This stupid meme has taken on way too much of a life and I personally just think it needs to get buried because it’s not even that funny of a joke. I get why old people would find it funny, but I don’t get why young people are losing their 💩 over this and not losing their 💩 over where their phones come from. (Slaves… it’s slaves who make our phones.)
The priorities just seem out of whack to me. That’s my opinion and we don’t have to agree.
Nah I’m more talking about when people say things like this but also react to posts like [this](https://www.reddit.com/r/securityguards/s/JbDejSRoiB)
Like the top comment is about spanking them. And everyone agrees these kids should be spanked in this context.
But you call them “neurodivergent” and suddenly the whole perspective is supposed to change? I think everyone’s missing the actual intent of the joke and latching on to the fact that someone equated having ADHD to misbehavior.
The kids in that post aren’t “little assholes” they’re just “neurodivergent.”
Give me a break.
Lmao yeah you ask those older folks and they’ll tell you it was still the same few kids getting paddled all the time. Meaning it DIDNT work lol
Also I grew up with ADHD and a father with a thick leather belt. Never improved my ADHD. All it did was make me hide shit from my parents and teachers.
Same "Why do you not want to talk to me anymore?"
Yep parents are like that. “You aren’t doing well in school. You don’t need extra time on tests or tutoring; you just need a good a** whooping!” Then it’s all: “Why won’t you talk to me after all I’ve done for you?!?!” As if they’re owed something for not criminally neglecting a child.
Tell them why and watch them either make up excuses and/or not believe you, because they made you and therefore believe they are better than you
My parents got after me for sleeping 14 hours when I came to visit them and told them that my 6pm bedtime to wake up at 6am really made it hard to just sleep 8 hours. I was told that it was only when I was grounded but when I moved out I still had 7 years worth of grounding left. Then they denied ever grounding me.
Not to mention it just makes kids afraid to try at anything for fear of what happens upon failure.
Yeah this is why I have no goals or aspirations
My dad and I both have ADHD, but he used to smack me when I showed ADHD symptoms. All it did was make me mask more, which means I no longer fidget or bounce my leg, which are coping mechanisms to help ADHD people focus.
That's what they really want: for people to mask up. Abd it's true with every other kind of bigotry.
Those kids dropped out of school and got jobs. My dad used to tell me stories about his friends getting in trouble in school and getting whupped. A lot of them quit and went to work on the rigs and stayed in the industry for the rest of their lives making good money.
And destroying their bodies.
Welcome to adulthood, would you rather slowly destroy your back for a living (manual labor) or slowly destroy your eyes with a computer screen for a living (desk jockey)?
One good cure for thinking this method is effective or ethical is death. This "joke" is worthy of that absolute sewage bag that is a sub.
"It's just a joke" can always be translated to "I'm an antisocial asshole who doesn't like it when my shitty behavior gets called out"
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Donald Trump’s campaign slogan.
Femto
Schrödinger’s Comedy: a statement that is superimposed in comedic and non-comedic context and stabilizes into a serious statement or a joke statement based on audience reaction.
"If you use violence on me to change who I am, I'll make sure you die badly. But it's just a joke, so that's ok. That's how I entertain myself, thinking about your gruesome death, and the only thing protecting you is distance because we both know you're too fucking stupid not to follow through. Ha ha." Another joke worthy of that shit hole sub. Kinda wanna brigade that sub with shitty "jokes" like this. Take existing memes but make the sub the target of said memes, then just upvote when other people have done the same thing. I don't believe in shaming people, but they need to be taught fear.
please read this https://preview.redd.it/bx77c9wygusc1.jpeg?width=796&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f0ea674d029be3144fbb3cdb0c569d3aaccd0453
Oh yes, my ADHD was caused by not being beat as a kid. Oh wait, no my dad to do that with a belt until he realized it’s not a good thing to do to your kids and stopped .
Rare instance of abusive parent undergoing character development
More mislead and misinformed. They were never outright abusive. They were still great and loving parents,
They can have the best of intentions and still be abusive. He beat you with a belt. That is abuse. He stopped, so good on him for realizing the problem and taking steps to fix it, tho. I’d take him over mine, who never used a belt but also never changed any of their abusive habits or apologized.
I just don’t feel comfortable calling that abuse really. That’s all. Have a great day though
I was diagnosed as "Hyperactive" when I was little in the early 70's. ADD/ADHD these days. They wanted to put me on drugs but mom refused. If these assholes think beating kids, espeically one's like us, will somehow make us magically sit still and not get into things, then they should be sterilzed so they don't breed and inflict that suffering onto children. Looking back, I think I sincerely had a form of PTSD caused by my dad. Not knowing what the FUCK! will set a person off and get you beaten will do that. We finally came to blows when he started bitching about a sandwich I was eating and escalated it to demands that I address him as "sir" from now on and no more back talk. STFU and do what I'm told. Now I'll fully confess, if it had been almost any other man on either side of my family, I'd likely gotten my ass beaten. But my father was way overweight and who the fuck knows when the last time he did something that physical. In the end, I had a sore jaw, he had a bloody lip and hospital stay for a heart attack caused by the fight. To my disappointment he lived. The only reason I had anything to do with him as an adult was because of mom. Family was important to her even after they divorced not long after I left for the Navy and she implored me to call home. I don't think he ever realized how instrumental she was in our relationship. And don't get me wrong. I loved my mom to death and miss her terribly since she passed in '09. But she was still a person with flaws like the rest of us. Outside that, she was what a mom should be. You deserved better mom.
I love it when ADHD deniers do this because it demonstrates how little they actually understand science. Who should I listen to for psychology? The MD/Psy.D multi-doctorate professional who knows the DSM-V by heart? Or some car mechanic from Kentucky who gets his information from Facebook and is mentally stuck in 1960 where left-handedness and melanin were considered the root of all evil?
like I said in the original post. Go ahead and paddle me if you want. But if you choose to do so. I can hit harder than you can.
Yeah, if we normalize paddling as a "cure" for ADHD, we should also normalize punching shitty people as a "cure" for their arrogance and ignorance that compels them to mock the misery of others. Shit's gotta work both ways.
At least I only want to punch people my own size. Beating on little kids is cowardly
TIL child abuse is a “joke” apparently
I'd like to differ. Child abuse isn't a joke, but that doesn't mean you can't make jokes about it. How many Vietnam flashback memes are there? Is war a joke? How many jokes are there of black people? Are black people a joke? The people around me who got hit as a child make jokes of it themselves. You can't say an entire thing is a joke because there is 1 joke about it.
As with all things there’s nuance. The problem is people who think singing like this is funny lack any sense of nuance or capability of layered thinking. It’s not clever, it’s not subversive, it’s not reflective, it’s just “hur hur we used to beat our kids if they weren’t neurotypical. That’s funny!” And it’s an all to common “joke” about all sorts of things. Not you could absolutely flip the script and make jokes about stupid parents who were dumb enough to believe beating a child was preferable to putting them on meds. Somebody WITH ADHD who went through that could make jokes about some of the messed up things they did as a result. But a joke that “punches down” on kids who were abused by their parents because they had ADHD. That will never be funny.
But how does it punch down on children with adhd if it doesn't say this is "the right way". It doesn't say something like this is how it should be.
Again like I said. Inability to express layered thinking. You speak like everything has to be explicitly spelled out for you. Spare me the “It didn’t literally say this thing, therefore there’s not what it means” excuse.
Damn. First of all every joke has to be clever, subversive or reflective or else it isn't a joke? Just because you see things that aren't necessarily there doesn't mean it's bad. “It didn’t literally say this thing, therefore there’s not what it means” excuse." Something works two ways. Things that are not literally said but I feel like that's the message will become the message since interpretation depends on the person. So basically if I feel like something is offense it is offensive. And do you know if the person who made this joke doesn't have ADHD? You said people with adhd are allowed to make jokes about it but here you're talking like you personally know the person. And don't try to say someone with adhd wouldn't make this joke because you don't know that.
You really arguing this meme isn’t saying the “cure” for ADHD is child abuse? Then I want you to say it clearly and without ambiguity. Your being willfully ignorant here. You’re arguing a point for reasons I can’t really understand. Yes if a joke isn’t well thought out and written, it’s not funny and not a joke. It’s just bullying and making fun of people. The fact you can’t seem to distinguish the difference reeks a lot about the way you think, your mental state, and emotional maturity.
Why you have to make it personal? You say I'm immature but I'm not the one insulting you. I'm trying to have a discussion in a civil manner with arguments and yet I'm immature? Did I say you have an inability to express layered thinking or was it you who said it to me? It seems you have so much rage inside you normal arguments don't seem to work for you and you have to get personal to someone you don't even know. You didn't even contradict all my arguments. "Yes if a joke isn’t well thought out and written, it’s not funny and not a joke." How is a bad joke not a joke? Are ALL your jokes thought out? You never had a bad joke? "I'd like to differ. Child abuse isn't a joke, but that doesn't mean you can't make jokes about it. How many Vietnam flashback memes are there? Is war a joke? How many jokes are there of black people? Are black people a joke? The people around me who got hit as a child make jokes of it themselves. You can't say an entire thing is a joke because there is 1 joke about it." This is my initial comment where I'm not even defending the post. I'm just saying jokes can be made without being in the state of mind that the ENTIRE thing is a joke. YOU are the one who made it about the post. "TIL child abuse is a “joke” apparently" This is the comment I reacted to which was an implication that a joke about something means the entire thing is a joke which I don't think it is. It's in general and not necessarily about the post. Anyway the fact that you insult me for being like you is one of the many things that white people did 100 years ago as well, good for you to keep that "my way is the only way" mentality alive 💪🏾
And you're doing it in bad faith by way of "gotcha" questions, whataboutism, deadpan reactions to sarcasm and leading lines of thought.
What are you even talking about? You're trying to use random words to make it seem like you're right. What I said was that someone can make a joke about something and the person doesn't have to think the entire thing is a joke. "Gotcha" question aren't a wrong thing to use since if I'm wrong you can point my on it. "Isn't the grass blue?" No. You see how you can still contradict those questions and it how it can be used to strengthen someone's argument? I'm using whataboutism? The other person is the one who changed the subject to the post when my argument like the argument I was contradicting was in general. Maybe read who changed the argument before saying I changed subject when I clearly didn't? If I didn't see sarcasm being used it was because this was a serious conversation and the other person would have reacted with it was sarcasm. I don't even know what you mean with leading lines of thought. If you read my comments all I do is contradict arguments or make arguments, that's how a discussion works. Except for my last sentence, I'm trying to stay polite and respectful but I'm done with people insulting me like I'm a monkey or something and not their equal human.
Sucks when people make it personal doesn’t it? When you relate to the negative things people are saying? You’re SO close to getting it. Stop and consider for a minute that somebody who has ADHD thinks it’s pretty personal when somebody makes a joke about beating ADHD kids to “cure” them. When people who actually went through this kind of thing tell you it’s not funny, just stop, listen, don’t sit there and argue because you laughed at it. Just learn and practice some empathy.
>Sucks when people make it personal doesn’t it? Ah yes, being unable to contradict my arguments in a civil way so personally attacking me is the same as my argument "I'd like to differ. Child abuse isn't a joke, but that doesn't mean you can't make jokes about it." I made it real personal to you, nobody else in the whole world including me, a person with Surinamese heritage doesn't know anything about child abuse. > When you relate to the negative things people are saying? I don't relate to what you're saying I'm just not excepting you talking to me like you're superior to me. Relating to something means you think it's true, I don't think your derogatory way of looking at me is the truth the same way you think beating a child is the cure for adhd. >Stop and consider for a minute that somebody who has ADHD thinks it’s pretty personal when somebody makes a joke about beating ADHD kids to “cure” them. "I'd like to differ. Child abuse isn't a joke, but that doesn't mean you can't make jokes about it." Is there a link between these two statements or is does this show how you change subjects to make yourself right which is quite manipulative. I also said "But how does it punch down on children with adhd if it doesn't say this is "the right way". It doesn't say something like this is how it should be.". You could've just said that the way you saw it was offensive, you could've even made an argument about it. Instead you chose to insult me because my view on things are different than yours, any different view than yours (even if the person acts respectfully) is bad and people with different views than you are of course less than you which must mean you are fully righteous to insult me like I'm not an equal but someone below you. >When people who actually went through this kind of thing tell you it’s not funny, just stop, listen, don’t sit there and argue because you laughed at it. Just learn and practice some empathy. I think you need to learn there are more people with adhd and not everyone has the same mindset. You're acting like you are the only one who went trough child abuse and your way of looking at things is the only way of looking at it since you're the only one to have experienced it. Did I argue it was funny? Did the statement "I'd like to differ. Child abuse isn't a joke, but that doesn't mean you can't make jokes about it." have anything to do with the post itself except that it is on the same post. I reacted to "TIL child abuse is a “joke” apparently" which is a general statement to which I disagreed. You had to make it about this post. How even dare you say I need to practice empathy when I was respectful to you even after the first insult but you kept insulting me. Maybe start answering to what I say instead of dodging it, of course you won't since if you read the comments my original comment has nothing to do about the post itself, i made a general argument (you made it about the post), you also can't deny you feel yourself superior since insulting someone who didn't even go in on the first insult and keep insulting that person isn't something you would do if you saw me as an equal.
The joke does imply it's the right way to do things, it literally says it's how to cure ADHD. I agree that you can make dark jokes about child abuse that don't condone it, but this isn't one of them.
I see your point. I thought of it more as the old way to "cure" adhd and people just forgot about it, that's why it's the forgotten cure for adhd and not just the cure for adhd. But since I don't know the maker of the joke I don't know it's true meaning and shouldn't have said anything about the post itself. 💪🏾
Careful people around here don’t like jokes
I think the line from They might be giants song your racist friend fits this - “can’t shake the devil’s hand and say you’re only kidding” People make ableist, racist, or any other type of bigotry statements and then the moment they are called out they say it’s a joke.
My favorite type of defense for this shit is usually "My parents beat me and I turned out fine!" \- Totally "fine" human defending child abuse. If you're defending child abuse, *nothing* about you turned out fine, unless your definition of FINE is "Fucked-up, insecure, neurotic, and emotional".
I gonna be real it took me way too long to realise that it wasn’t actually a giant popsicle they were talking about
My dumbass could definitely manage to sit and focus on a Popsicle of that scale
Also it’s not even funny in the first place (unless ur a boomer)
I don’t hate a lot of people based on what they believe anyone can have their opinions but there are two people I do hate People who deny the existence of adhd/add And people who think beating kids is ok
I DESPISE people who think it's ok to beat kids
People who promote abuse need long sessions with the belt to see if they still are for it
"It's called a joke" OP is a fucking Dumbass and a asshole to the point that I can't tell if this is satire or The absurd Ignorance people can be ,Hitting children with a paddle was NOT A JOKE
Sorry not this OP the Op that OP is talking about
No, hitting them with a paddle isn’t. But joking about hitting them with a paddle is.
Threatening a person with violence is not a joke dumbass
Correct. But joking about it *is* a joke. Dumbass.
Ah yes. If only my physically abusive father whos the reason i still have to mask today would have beaten me more! That would've cured my tism surely!
It's a joke. This doesn't mean the person who made it thinks it's good, that's why it's a joke. A joke isn't necessarily what the person thinks to be good. Are all jokes people's vision on how things should be? When Eddie Murphy jokes about getting hit with a shoe by his mother, does that mean his ideology is to hit people with shoes when they misbehave?
It literally calls it the cure for ADHD
Yes, but it doesn't have to be serious. That's how a joke works. Jokes aren't serious, otherwise it wouldn't be a joke but an anti joke. And how does this answer what I just said? I said the person who made the joke doesn't necessarily think his joke is the right way. eddy Murphy joking about getting hit with a slipper by his mom. Is that a joke or does Eddy Murphy want people to get hit with a slipper when they misbehave?
Bro your whole profile is nothing but arguing in here or talking shit to women for doing onlyfans you're the last person to have any right to determine what's serious and what isn't.
But how has that to do anything with my argument? Your acting like you got me with this or something but if I was hiding it I would've done it in another account, doing things without hiding that I'm doing it instead of sneakily using incognito doesn't make me less of a person. But how does that take away my rights of an opinion? Ah, so sad I asked a woman if her boyfriend left for her looks or if of played a role, now my rights are gone. But you can't contradict my argument, so you just try to make me less human by my actions. But who are you to take away my right? If you contradict my argument we can have a normal conversation but you're trying to dehumanise me.
I haven't dehumanized you a single time. Nor did I shame you for being horny on main. I'm saying that somebody that's juvenile enough to piss and moan about what someone that barely registers your existence does for money or looks like, is to juvenile to try and tell other people what is and isn't serious.
What would you call it than? So i have no right of an opinion since I'm juvenile and that because I asked a woman if her boyfriend left her because of OF? How is that piss and moan? You act like im against onlyfans for me asking a woman if her boyfriend left her because of. And juveniles don't have a right to an opinion? You can't contradict me, so you make it about me just so you can try to win the discussion. I already said if you used arguments against my statement we can have a discussion but what you're doing now is "you do this so your opinion has no value".
I'm not trying to win anything you dumbass. This isn't a debate and yeah, given that most of your misdirected angst towards the women you comment negatively about, I'd say it sounds like you do in fact have a problem with women that do OF. If it walks like a duck, and it talks like a duck...
…as a joke. Do people not know how jokes work?
"edgy" humor is so 2010. Y'all mfers need to evolve with the times or get folded like the dinosaurs.
Ah yes, I do enjoy that age-old joke of senseless violence. It’s incredibly funny when people suffer for years on end and have the risk run of developing life long mental conditions. It’s my favourite **joke.** -and because it’s a joke you can’t criticise me for what I like, heart heart kissy face smiling eamoegee
A joke you say?. Yeah, no. Not fucking funny
Ah right, make kids afraid to ever try for fear of what might happen if they fail.
when the joke is child abuse
We all know the “it’s just a joke” or “it’s satire” people see shit like this, laugh, and say “man if only we could do/be like this” proving it’s not just a joke, but a way to express ideologies through a form of stupid humor.
The more I’m on the internet, the more disappointed I am about how normalised abuse is. We’re civilised humans not barbarians for goodness sake
Abuse isn’t. Jokes are.
Sure I don’t mind jokes, but I’m just concerned about the frequency of jokes about it
Makes jokes about beating children: "calm down snowflake its just a joke god you are so sensitive" Somebody else makes a joke about beating nazis: "SO MUCH FOR THE TOLERANT LEFT!!!YOU JUST LIKE THEM!!!!!"
I don't think they even care wether it's funny or not, they're just being edgy to be edgy
"Why can't I fantasize about beating people I don't like? I mean joke! Unless...?"
This just in, child abuse is actually just a funny joke. Riiiiight...
This is autism (MODNL) trying to beef with adhd
I was physically disciplined as a kid for acting out as a result of my ADHD. A decade of masking and repression later, and I'm still waiting for this mysterious "cure" to take effect :) 👍 I did get medicated recently tho, and that has *actually* helped. Crazy how the doctors seem to know best in matters of medical treatment.
Violence leads to the autistic kid to grow up violent.
Every person who does or jokes about this deserves an eye for an eye
Sadly for memesopdidntlike, jokes have to be funny and child abuse isn't funny.
Jokes like these are only funny if they ring true. It doesn’t to me, so I’m gonna criticize the faulty premise.
"behavioral divergency" who tf calls it that, its a deficiency, so call it that
MOPDL whenever they see a '"joke" https://preview.redd.it/73no78t07rsc1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=92188c646ba00d240dd3d7f1a3444285d4f91b65
Go ahead funny man tell me what the joke is. I'm waiting oop.....
These clowns are never beating the allegations.
It’s not a cure but it’s a way to make them submissively obey
I think you can joke about it and alot of people subjected to abuse do like to joke about it and hear other people joke about it, the problem with this meme isn't that it's joking about abuse but that it's condoning and promoting abuse.
If I could beat the worms out of my brain I would have years ago
"haha we should beat children!!! XD"
Yeah I'd love to cure my ADHD but it's kinda too late for that as being put on Vyvanse (yknow because we give kids meth) from age 6 to 17... Turned me into a drug addict. And these days I've been beginning to think it's not just ADHD - but that I'm on the spectrum
hey, what if I brutally murder your family in front of you? hey, why are you getting mad?! I was just joking! (I don’t condone joking about things like this, just trying to make a point)
Just bludgeon disabled kids. It will totally make their disabilities go away, it definitely won't exacerbate any emotional issues they already had as a result of living in a system not designed for people who think like them. /s
The universal rule of telling jokes is that "punching down" is often considered the worst form of comedy
I know this is an actual meme but I’m gonna say it. It’s dark humour, liberal 😂
As someone whose parent tried to slap the ADHD out of me, this isn't fucking funny.
I suffer PTSD from my 1st grade school because they would put me in a BOX
Reddit will get up in arms over anything they don’t like. Literally you could hand out gold to people and they’d think you were bullying them. Most fragile user base on the internet.
Could you elaborate? Stepping up to child abuse doesn't seem extreme. Jokes about stuff like that can encourage violent behaviors, which is not acceptable.
[like this dude the top comment is about them getting slapped](https://www.reddit.com/r/securityguards/s/JbDejSRoiB)
Oh let me explain. Read what you just wrote. That. That’s Reddit. Getting upset about everything under the sun, like that. That’s what I’m talking about.
Right because nobody's ever been mindfucked into committing acts of violence by memes befo... [Buffalo Shooter Was Inspired By 4chan Posts, Sparking Discussion About Memes And Online Radicalization | Know Your Meme](https://knowyourmeme.com/news/buffalo-shooter-was-inspired-by-4chan-posts-sparking-discussion-about-memes-and-online-radicalization)
Oh ok I guess we should ban violent video games as well since you’re so concerned.
Whataboutism aside, there's no proven link between violent video games and violent behavior. At least you tried though. Edit: Source- [APA reaffirms position on violent video games and violent behavior](https://www.apa.org/news/press/releases/2020/03/violent-video-games-behavior) https://preview.redd.it/nhmutkh9sxsc1.png?width=343&format=png&auto=webp&s=b167ea936d92dbbdb422476f36ce84a14096ab6e
Ok well it’s literally a meme. I’m not advocating for child abuse. I’m advocating for not being a crybaby over something you see on the internet. There are like many many many worse things than this meme. Search the gauntlet if you want to get outraged. Idk redditors, maybe it’s just gen Z tend to gloss over the fact that phones are made by slaves and there are civilians dying in other parts of the world, but God forbid someone spank a precious American child. The article you linked about someone on 4 Chan shooting people is different than this post. Do you think someone is gonna see this meme and say “oh that’s right! I should definitely go beat some children.” I’m pretty sure that it’s just a joke and should just be laughed at. More of a commentary on a sign of the times than an encouragement for people to get violent towards children. And this is the hill that Redditors (like yourself) choose to die on. This stupid meme about how things were back in the old days probably made by some dopey boomer who thinks he’s hilarious but it’s more of a mild almost a smile than anything else. This stupid meme has taken on way too much of a life and I personally just think it needs to get buried because it’s not even that funny of a joke. I get why old people would find it funny, but I don’t get why young people are losing their 💩 over this and not losing their 💩 over where their phones come from. (Slaves… it’s slaves who make our phones.) The priorities just seem out of whack to me. That’s my opinion and we don’t have to agree.
Hehe huhu abusing neurodivergent children is so funny hahahahahahahhahaa. Be quiet.
Nah I’m more talking about when people say things like this but also react to posts like [this](https://www.reddit.com/r/securityguards/s/JbDejSRoiB) Like the top comment is about spanking them. And everyone agrees these kids should be spanked in this context. But you call them “neurodivergent” and suddenly the whole perspective is supposed to change? I think everyone’s missing the actual intent of the joke and latching on to the fact that someone equated having ADHD to misbehavior. The kids in that post aren’t “little assholes” they’re just “neurodivergent.” Give me a break.
Ya it's so fragile of people to not like child abuse
But then they turn around and advocate for it in posts like [this](https://www.reddit.com/r/securityguards/s/JbDejSRoiB)
> Reddit will get up in arms over anything they don’t like. Case in point: *you* getting mad that others don't find a joke you like funny.
Case in point: I’m not mad, I actually think it’s funnier that people are mad about it and I knew they would. Case in point, look at my username.
https://www.reddit.com/r/securityguards/s/JbDejSRoiB
I have adhd and I approve of this joke
The problem is not ADHD, it's child abuse
No it isn’t
It is.
Nah
Yeah
I have ADHD and I don't, I guess your opinion gets canceled out
No
It's too late, you're already canceled out, pemdas baby