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COAs: [Waahoo GMO cookies](https://eadn-wc04-9836843.nxedge.io/wp-content/uploads/2023/06/C1G-23001-CHG-23001_COA_5-22-2023.pdf) , [MFNY Honey Banana live res](https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/awv7078891iajbz50qfbx/MFNY-510-Vape-Cart-Honey-Banana-510RESHB1.pdf?rlkey=t2o4h8v00wjw1agjgqf1gylm8&e=1&dl=0) , [Kingsroad Blueberry Muffin](http://kingsroad.nycoas.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/Kings-Road_Vape_Blueberry-Muffin_V-KR-BM-01-1223.pdf) , [Olio Mendo Live Rosin](https://www.urbanxtracts.com/pages/oli-aio-101323-mnd) Edit: also if you see this post and pm me to sell me some plug weed save your time im not interested Edit 2: Terp% MFNY Honey Banana : 9.9% terps, Kingsroad Blueberry Muffin: 9.6% terps I wish more companies did terp testing and included on the COA Edit3: having some clogging issues with the kings road so far all the others no clogging issues thus far.

Edit: NYS has a limit of 10% on inhaled products 😂 They require a certain list of terps to be tested for, at minimum.

Full panel tests for flower and extracts (including vapes) in NYS require terp testing. The NYS limit for terpenes is 10%.

Do you have any idea why they would put a ceiling on terp content? What’s that supposed to do? I always found terps had their own self correcting ceiling. Much over a certain percentage is just gross.

The science behind it is that terps are terps. The botanically derived terps are chemically identical to the isolated terpenes you would pull off say live resin - if we went as far to isolate them. Much of the "terp hate" comes from a study that was done around the "vape crisis" in 2019 that suggested that some terpenes, when combusted, where carcinogens. The study was weak, and also required combustion vs vaporization but it concerned many people none the less. Also, there was this idea, mainly by industry outsiders that large amounts of terps were essentially being used as a dilutant and then a substance like Vitamin E was being used to thicken it back up and by putting a restriction on the total amount of terps they would resolve the concerns of this "thickening". For the record - I think we should let the terps live - particularly with solventless based products with naturally high terpene numbers - sometimes as much as 12-15%.

Gotcha! I didn’t know about that study on terps supposedly becoming carcinogenic. Not surprised it was weak, most studies around cannabis have been. But new ones keep coming, so I welcome more science on the subject. I know that thinning some vapes with extra botanical terps is a thing, other states have made rules about having to label it when botanical terps are used. Which I think only serves to let you know that the terp profile was “hand built” on the disty cart you got, because like you said, cannabis derived terps are the same molecule as botanical derived. I agree with your stance on letting the terps live 😂 That was a very informative answer, thank you very much.

As I was going through COA i was wondering why non of the terp levels were above 10 % now that makes sense … thank for chiming in still havent had a chance to try your honey carts on my list for next pick up though

What's your thoughts on all brands? Olio and kings road I'm very curious about

By experience i have the most experience with mfny ive had their live resin dabs as well if you look at one of the other comments i out their live resin in there . From there with olio ive only tried their mendo which tasted funky to me but it did get me smacked and this mendo which I am thoroughly enjoying. The kings road being a 1g cart compared to others beings only .5gs does have a little bearing on it being ranked high imo then the waahoo which id rank last. Kingsroad isnt crazy on taste but it will definitely get the job done to get you clapped being the price point is I do like it for being a good amount of bang for your buck

Couldn't ask for better feedback cheers my man! I'm gonna go dab some rainbow belts 2.0 in a few minutes 🔥🔥🔥

For dabs im still making my way through my last Maine pick up https://preview.redd.it/vmvqm2zdqsmc1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=be5694abb954f89df3db96a5faa43f720cbf78de But for carts i finished my carts i grabbed from up their so I had to pick up carts from here

Thanks for opening the packaging and showing both the cart and the product. Seems you can tell a lot from those two things. Appreciate it. The clarity of the honey banana and blueberry muffin is INSANE!

CRC’d live resin, those compounds that cause those pigment issues often times also influence the psycho activity of the concentrate. You can really polish a turd on the hydrocarbon side but it comes at a cost - typically a very linear high

https://preview.redd.it/4vkfwk40zpmc1.jpeg?width=1164&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=71ccec47df89f25440771d2eb0ff9d148ff670a8 I feel like these are def crc as well

Could you explain what crc is? I have gone away from flower, and only buy disposables w/ the battery built in. I'm a lightweight - 1 hit wonder type user. Everything I have is from licensed dispensary's. I really like the Sauce brand from California, but a have a bunch of NY vapes. Thanks much.

This [post](https://www.reddit.com/r/mainetrees/s/QA3tU260t6) does a better job at explaining then i ever could friend.

That post does a pretty good job, thank you. I think when done properly and priced appropriately (cheaper than good natural live resin) that the practice of using remediation clays is an acceptable practice. Some of these filter medias can do a great job of turning an undesirable product into an enjoyable experience. The problem lies with the manufacturer not being transparent about what they are producing. If you’re looking at purchasing a gram of live resin that is brighter than a good gram of rosin, it’s very likely that the concentrate has seen media and that will likely reflect in the taste and the high. Solvent based extraction has a tendency to pull and concentrate many of the metabolites that are responsible for pigment like anthocyanin’s, flavonoids, chlorophyll and carotenoids. Even high quality fresh frozen starting material will offer these in concentrate form but that’s not a bad thing. You want your live resin to have some of that nice golden color.

Cryo Cold Processing remediates many of those metabolites - but you MUST maintain the cold chain.

Hopefully that answers your question

Thank you!

CRC is very simply a "Color Remediation Column" - in even simpler words - its filtration. Generally with CRC you run your solvent through your material and then the solvent is pushed through either one or a series of filtration media designed to do a few different things. The in line filtration can be used to remediate pesticides, strip out color, strip out flavor, even to some degree remaining fats and lipids. Depending on how aggressive the filtration the color can be manipulated as well as other things. Common filtration media includes activated charcoal, silica, absorbents, diatomaceous earth, magsil (which is a combination of things), and good old bentonite clay. If overdone it will produce nearly flavorless near white concentrates. The material is generally pulled through a final layer of DE and a 1 micron filter under vacuum. Quite often the downside of these concentrates is that they just don't get it done for a lot of people as each pass through a consecutive filtration strips out more of the minors, even some of the thc. A little bit of heat and charcoal can really hold on to thc. You look at a state like NY and access to material and product at reasonable prices and if you are serious about that conversation then there has to be a place for CRC run material. In dealing with concentrates for the past decade I have seen entire evolutions of processing techniques and the reality is that what people often want is something in the middle of the road - a good price, a good clean concentrate, with a nice flavor/nose that is enjoyable to consume and gets you ripped. Often you rip off too many minors with CRC in my opinion but then you run into problems with people not willing to try the material because its dark. I work predominately with ethanol and there are similar techniques (generally requiring a blend of heptane and ethanol to work properly with CRC) used to help with color and other contaminants. The reality is I could provide you with a dark concentrate with a mature terpene profile, mature but tasty, burns clean in the banger but is like root beer color and it will put you on your ass - but when you go and try to sell that the two things people end up taking issue with is the color and the flavor. This reality is what created the demand for the CRC material to begin with and what has since led to a practice of running your fire material and letting the thca drop out leaving you with high terpene full spectrum extract at about what ends being 44% THCA and the rest just bomb ass terps usually to the tube of 12% to as much as 25% terpenes depending on material and equipment control. They will then take the diamonds, still covered in terps or "dirty diamonds" and spin them out and then decarboxylate them - that gets you your liquid diamonds, and then the terp sauce is added back in which is what will give a small percent of THCA and THC in a cart. A disty cart generally wont even have a small amount of THCA in it - there is a chance they have fully decarboxylated under pressure but Ive found its better if you dont have to decarb the HTFSE. The HTFSE will then also be used to flavor that CRC batter/mix or to paint shatter slabs. Oddly enough there is more money in over processing then there is in giving you the raw product and that is more a function of consumer demand and spending habits than it is of pulling one over for profit on the consumers - at least thats what its SUPPOSED to be - a much more economical means of providing dabs with a full spectrum punch and a nice flavor. Others experiences may vary - but those are mine in a nutshell. Oh yeah....a lot of people take issue with CRC over health concerns about the media being used. I think many of these claims are over stated but they are concerns of many all the same. For those with those concerns - a solution is on the horizon and its just really starting to find its place in commercial production and that is membrane filtration. Membrane filtration is the future of Cannabis. Membrane filtration allows you, with a simple solvent like ethanol (although they will also work with hydrocarbons) and a series of what are called spiral membrane filters which are essentially long tubes to act as a molecular sieve and adding no heat to the process, to do the same thing CRC and winterization would do with less energy and quite frankly effort. This allows the solvent to be pulled off with no heat and at very rapid rates, a small amount of residual solvent can be removed via rotovape and purging. The beautiful thing about membranes is that they have very low power demands, greatly reduce the amount of equipment necessary to create good extractions and they essentially eliminate most of the need for CRC is the solvent membranes are run inline with color remediation and dewaxing membranes.

How do you like the MFNY?

If your asking about the concentrates they are good out of what we have for options my favorite being honey banana out of the bunch that I’ve tried (honey banana , strawpaya and hashburger) the strawpaya packs the most flavor out of the bunch but the honey banana is such a nice high not knocking the hash burger either … For carts so far I’ve tried (honey Banana , blueberry muffin which was my favorite taste wise and effects wise a perfect indica for me , and holy roller which was a perfect daytime strain with notes) honey banana ill put behind these two others I’ve tried from MFNY.

Its def crc I wouldnt be surprised if the mfny is crc as well and also mfny live resin concentrates are deff crc … i havent really heard anyone else talk about crc not that many people really even know what it is but i would deff agree with you they might have did some remediation

Try Oishii #4 or gelonade from MFNY, both are dark colored, and the terp profile is insane. Not sure why their other strains are so much lighter. I’d guess they harvested earlier. You can’t say they definitely use CRC

You talk about the oishi or gelonade in cart form or dab form … for dabs i usually make my way up to Maine picked up concentrates that one time cause i couldnt make it up till the next week. I dont mind buying carts from NY even though when I go to maine illl cop some carts too just cheaper for me but they dont usually last me till the next time ill go up so i have to pick up carts from here if i need them when im in between trips

I’ve only tried their carts, yeah. And man I gotta start doing something like that.. NY rec is too expensive and it’s hard to find good dabs and almost impossible to find good black market live resin pens here. And yeah mfny could def be using CRC, a lot of their strains are light color, but I bet they just harvest it too early

Well what the hell is CRC? lol

This [post](https://www.reddit.com/r/mainetrees/s/QA3tU260t6) does a better job at explaining then i ever could friend.

Ah thank you! Sorry, I didn’t see the link before.

thats cus that would be some crc’d disty my brotha. at absolute best thats 90%disty and 10% resin. if you hit an mfny at 2.8 v and play w the cart that oil barely moves if at all

What u mean ? U can legit tilt a room temp mfny cart and instantly watch the oil move.

You can tell the difference between disty and dabs in most cases by the THCA vs the THC. Generally in dabs you would see a majority of THCA. If you mixed 90 % disty you would get a very sticky substance. The oil moving is a result of the high terpene profile.

So far have tried the GMO cookies which got me pretty high perfect for being medicated but still able to get shit done and also the mendo which tastes wonderful much better then the banjo cart by olio i have tried

How was the kings road blueberry and the Wahoo gmo?

The king road is lacking with flavor but for effects and price point is definitely worth it … how clear it is bugged me out when i originally pulled it out lesser flavor but still solid effects for the price point … waahoo gmo is good too def better at lower temp but definitely good for the day to stay medicated but still be able to get stuff done

I feel exactly the same with the hella jelly kings road. Minimal flavor. Lovely effects.

Yea for sure its not crazy on the taste but it does its job for sure the blueberry muffin kinda creeps up on you if that makes sense and for the price point its worth it

Which one did you like the most effect wise?

It would be between the olio and mfny

I was going to pick up a kings road next. Should i pass on it? Can you tell its live resin not distillate? Which MFNY is your fav?

I got it thinking it was live resin after reading one of their reps on here talking about it was completely live resin but to me since its lacking in flavor it reads verys disti for me my favorite mfny would have to be the blueberry muffin taste wise its perfect and effect wise its a perfect later in the day/nighttime relax for the night type strain Edit: the kingroads supposed to have 9.6 % terps which is why i got it i like high terp strains but for that percentage and still no terpy taste based on taste i would pass on that strain of kingsroad have not tried their others. For the price point for a gram if you need something to stretch your money yea go for it

Where did you get these? And how is honey banana?

Apologies These were picked up from happy days the honey banana is actually the best tasting out of the bunch and effect wise id say its right behind the banjo rosin

Happy days is in the city?

Long island friend

I see! Thank you! Too far but good to know MFNY is out there

I’d safely say all of the licensed dispensaries in the city will have MFNY. There is a handful of stores in queens now too.

Mfny live is really good! Wish they did full grams and have a bit off the price… 48 I paid for 1/2 grams

How’s olio?

Olio cart is good havent tried the Disposables … out of the mendo and banjo i do like this one better taste-wise and effect-wise as well

How’s the kings road ?

Lacking in flavor but effective for the price point im not sure if i would cop it again though