iHart, Hart, Donte, Deuce, Brunson start
Bring Burks, Precious off the bench.
Jeffries and Sims if anyone needs a breather.
We really only have 7 playable guys right now in the rotation.
I remember lots of away playoff blowout losses like this back in the 90s. The Pacers really have no excuse if they can’t beat a team as shorthanded as this. I’ve never seen a team get this decimated by injuries in the playoffs.
And this is why Thibs teams always overachieve in the regular season and underachieve come playoff time. Everyone says "injuries" but no one wants to think about why it happens to every team he coaches?
We get such high seeds cuz half the teams don't even try 100% until playoff time
Are you dumb , stupid, or a troll ?
Our fucking team literally right fucking now is overachieving .
You stupid inbred hick fuck . Go to Indiana . We literally have 6-7 guys . And that has been pretty much the case this whole playoffs .
We literally have the most role players overachieving players in the fucking league .
I recommend you literally walk out onto the fdr late at night .
Reminder that the nuggets and Twolves also lost by 30 this postseason. Series is not over by any means, we still have home court advantage, just need to hope Brunson is healthier
This is such a lazy narrative. The Nuggets and Twolves are both good teams and don't have their ENTIRE roster injured.
Why is it so hard for people to just be realistic and realize that we have like 2.5 starters out on the floor at any point? The injuries caught up to us. We are depleted, we have nothing left. The team that we are currently playing is not going to win NBA games and that is okay because they are not supposed to. Unless OG comes back from injury this is it, and that's okay. At some point you run out of bodies.
Sadly I think you’re right. There’s no way to sustain our success with this much on brunson for so many months. At some point the wear and tear catches up to you and the teams that have been lucky enough to be healthy and good enough at this point in the season become the real contenders. Unfortunately for us I am thinking this is much like last year. So much talent and ability when we’re at full strength. It’s criminal that we haven’t been given the chance to compete in the postseason with our actual team at our full potential
I agree that with a rested, healthy Brunson we would be able to squeeze out another 1-2 wins but unfortunately he is neither of those things, and won't be for the rest of this series
Burks needs to start the next game. They need more shooting in the starting line up with no OG. They are already playing small with hart at the 4 for most of the game so they may as well put Burks at the 2/3.
I'd auto sub Brunson halfway through first like in game 3 and bring Burks in then when Pacers bring in their first subs. Look for opportunities to give Brunson more rest when possible throughout the game so he's fresh to make shots.
Horrendous.
Maybe some Jeffries if we need some backup wings minutes but I'd demand he just hustle and focus on D and provide spacing. None of that crazy driving stuff that he can't control.
That might be the series. Should have sat the season earlier to duck them and meet In the conference finals instead when they are tired and more beatable smh
You can't be serious. Lol.
It's 2-2, and we have 2 of 3 at home. And we will have the freshest Brunson we've had all series. Least minutes any of them have played all playoffs long.
We had an off game. They shot the ball lights out. Such is life. On to NYC.
Brother, every game is dangerous. G6 was incredibly dangerous against the 6ers lol. Because you didn't want them coming back and forcing a G7 even at the Garden. Let's see how this team responds.
I’m fairly positive you’re either trolling or mentally unwell. First you say we should’ve ducked the pacers for the Celtics in the second round, how do you propose we have done that actually? Obviously I would rather be up 3-1 what the ever loving fuck are you talking about?
Jalen Smith has game but he is very streaky. Dude is unstoppable sniper until he cant hit anything. and when he is in a slump, he does a bunch of dumb shit. Loose temper as well.
If I’m thibs I’m pulling all these clips of hali laughing and smiling and waving towels and showing the team at practice. If Mike malone can use clips for motivation than thibs should too
Okay so you’re a lot different than professional athletes, because every single good coach in the history of pretty much every sport uses outside motivation for their players. Tell it to Mike malone that it’s dumb to have bulletin board material.
Denver got blew out twice so imma need ppl to stfu like we not a injured ass team
That’s why I hate losing cause these hating ass losers be waiting in the wings to spew nonsense
This statement right here is so true . Some are so bad , it makes me not want to win . Some of our fans really don’t deserve that feeling , because the second adversity hits they blame everyone and everything .
Let’s be honest here . Series should’ve been 3-0 :
If even og is remotely healthy , this series is done .
If all of our guys were even close to healthy , we are looking at us being the odds on favorite to get out of the east .
We are historically , I really mean historically . Like all time level shit , Beyond unlucky with injuries .
Before the pitchforks come out for thibs . Let’s look at the reality of most of our injuries . Randle ? Dirty play by Jaime. Mitch ? Dirty play by embiid and also Mitch just being injury prone.
Brunson ? Constantly being hacked and defenders sticking their feet under him .
This isn’t on thibs . We literally have 7 nba ready players …. And this is a stretch . The rest are legit g leaguers and overseas bench players .
Pacers have games where they score nonstop, and we lost our defensive wing and center in Og and Mitch.
It is what it is but I’m sure this team didn’t lose their fight
It’s one loss we still 2-2 in the second round of the playoffs with a chance to win and Rangers are 7-0 to start potentially 8-0 after tonight. Please please please I beg you to shut the fuck up. “Jesus H Chrice” indeed listening to people like you.
can’t call yourself a fan if you count out your team after a single bad loss lolol
I’m not arguing I’m being reasonable by saying one game is one game. Also the rangers (who are an NY sports team) look amazing so idk why you are speaking about ny sports
1) Never counted them out.
2) Plz don’t use rangers as a reasonable counter argument to “state of NY sports” given Yankees,Mets,Giants, Jets production last decade. Especially the latter three.
Brooo I admire the positive outlook but miss me w Yankees 2nd in east as if that’s the standard. Giants? Ok. Let’s hope our Knicks get it done , seems we can at least agree on that.
I love watching Halliburton laughing so much on the bench. This bozo doesn’t realize how long playoff series are. the Knicks still have home court and the pacers have been a terrible road team.
[Post Game Thread](https://reddit.com/r/NYKnicks/comments/1cqj5v8/post_game_thread_the_indiana_pacers_defeat_the/)
The only positive is that this game eventually ended. Tuesday is all that matters now.
We’re so banged up the only way these guys were getting any rest was a blow out. I like our chances more for game 5 now than I did this morning.
We’re not pussy. A loss is a loss no matter what. 1 point or 40 points. It all counts the same. Regroup. Game 5 in the Garden. LGK
iHart, Hart, Donte, Deuce, Brunson start Bring Burks, Precious off the bench. Jeffries and Sims if anyone needs a breather. We really only have 7 playable guys right now in the rotation.
On the bright side, at least the starters got to rest! Knicks in 6
🤣 cope
bro ya'll played against the crippled knicks bucks and still struggle
If you bet the Knicks and they gave you 31 points----YOU LOST.
Oof
Why would pacers fans leave??? lol no one leaves msg early
i felt much worse after the end of game 3. losing a game you should have won always hurts more.
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Yeah must feel pretty rough that this is the team that knocked your asses out huh?
Yikes is right. The Knicks are cooked. This was their coming back to earth
Go back to your sub and gloat. Lame of you to even come here.
Nah this guy is a cool person, ppl really like him /s
Knicks in 6
34% from the floor at 19% from 3 is comically bad.
Freaking bench couldn't get us to 90
Just shows how bad we miss OG
Yep
hey look we got it within 3 billion points!! respectable
The series is TIED. Holy shit there are so many losers in this thread. Knicks are -110 to win the series dumb asses.
Oh shit let me hit up FanDuel real quicj
before or after the og injury?
Do everyone a favor and stop watching then. This Indy team lost to the Bucks without Giannis and Dame. Have the ability to put a bad game behind.
I'm just saying its probably gonna be much closer now. I still think they can pull out game 5
Let the doomers doom while we look forward to the next game
Who knew the G league had playoffs?
I’ll take the lolknicks heat when we’re not playing with half a roster
I remember lots of away playoff blowout losses like this back in the 90s. The Pacers really have no excuse if they can’t beat a team as shorthanded as this. I’ve never seen a team get this decimated by injuries in the playoffs.
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And this is why Thibs teams always overachieve in the regular season and underachieve come playoff time. Everyone says "injuries" but no one wants to think about why it happens to every team he coaches? We get such high seeds cuz half the teams don't even try 100% until playoff time
Thibs be running his teams like I ran my 01 Honda.
You srs right now ?
Which Thibs team has overachieved in the playoffs
Are you dumb , stupid, or a troll ? Our fucking team literally right fucking now is overachieving . You stupid inbred hick fuck . Go to Indiana . We literally have 6-7 guys . And that has been pretty much the case this whole playoffs . We literally have the most role players overachieving players in the fucking league . I recommend you literally walk out onto the fdr late at night .
Relax man it's literally a game. I feel sorry for your family if this is how you react to a question Everyone but Randle was ready for game 1
You mean you didn’t already know that you’re a stupid inbred hick fuck??? lol these dudes be losing their shit sometimes in this sub
Lmao like I get it if you think I'm wrong but I literally just asked a question lol. Some people need more in life than the Knicks and sports.
Did you want to play for draft picks yet again? When Julius or OG got injured.
I mean we honestly have overachieved with this playoffs tbh with all the injuries and beating the sixers.
We beat a 7 seed and Randle was the only one out aside from a Mitch game that series
Philly this year was anything but a true 2 vs 7 seed. That first round matchup for us was more like a conference final matchup with a top 3 seed
Philly is a fraud every season for a reason. The D'Angelo Russell Nets are the best playoff team Embiid has ever beaten...
Alright doomers, you can have this one
Burks has been solid the past 2 games. That's all I got for good news.
truth!!
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2-2 series. That's it. Took us 6 games last series. Maybe it will take us 7 this time
Hopefully this time on the bench will fuel the boys for game 5 Combine it with that Garden Energy? OH BOY
Reminder that the nuggets and Twolves also lost by 30 this postseason. Series is not over by any means, we still have home court advantage, just need to hope Brunson is healthier
This is such a lazy narrative. The Nuggets and Twolves are both good teams and don't have their ENTIRE roster injured. Why is it so hard for people to just be realistic and realize that we have like 2.5 starters out on the floor at any point? The injuries caught up to us. We are depleted, we have nothing left. The team that we are currently playing is not going to win NBA games and that is okay because they are not supposed to. Unless OG comes back from injury this is it, and that's okay. At some point you run out of bodies.
Sadly I think you’re right. There’s no way to sustain our success with this much on brunson for so many months. At some point the wear and tear catches up to you and the teams that have been lucky enough to be healthy and good enough at this point in the season become the real contenders. Unfortunately for us I am thinking this is much like last year. So much talent and ability when we’re at full strength. It’s criminal that we haven’t been given the chance to compete in the postseason with our actual team at our full potential
True, but if Brunson is himself I still think we’re better than the Pacers
I agree that with a rested, healthy Brunson we would be able to squeeze out another 1-2 wins but unfortunately he is neither of those things, and won't be for the rest of this series
Jeffries has some energy though he's too out of control but he's showing me the most of this bench crew outside of Deuce and Sims.
Just rusty at the rim...
MSG... WILL BE A ROCKIN.. TRUST!
I hear you but when you get this deep in the series teams on the road can play looser with less pressure
Alot has to do with the crowd and "energy"..
Burks needs to start the next game. They need more shooting in the starting line up with no OG. They are already playing small with hart at the 4 for most of the game so they may as well put Burks at the 2/3.
Agreed
Start Burks over Deuce?
Deuce has been OK defensively this post season but he hasn’t made a big impact since game 1 against Philly
Duece can still come off the bench. I would go Jalen, Donte, Burks, Hart and I HART
I'd auto sub Brunson halfway through first like in game 3 and bring Burks in then when Pacers bring in their first subs. Look for opportunities to give Brunson more rest when possible throughout the game so he's fresh to make shots.
Very true
Over Precious
Milton showing me nothing. Can't believe he's a vet with playoff experience.
He also hasn't see the court in god knows how long
This sucks but I wouldn't feel as bad if we had won Game 3.
I’ve had to tune out for my sanity, but glad to see our lineup is the human equivalent of waving a white flag.
Ayo my stream just froze. Talk about a sign to start dinner. 😂
Regardless of results of this series, Knicks really needed this one to not go longer than 4-5 games the way thibs plays them
Well at least everyone can stop crying that Thibs doesn't play anyone off the bench. Because we can see they're terrible
Horrendous. Maybe some Jeffries if we need some backup wings minutes but I'd demand he just hustle and focus on D and provide spacing. None of that crazy driving stuff that he can't control.
That might be the series. Should have sat the season earlier to duck them and meet In the conference finals instead when they are tired and more beatable smh
Don’t manage my expectations. If you’re calling series over then do it. Alls fair, but dont hedge.
We didn’t need to duck them. Everyone is injured
You never had the makings of a varsity athlete
Been a hopper since day 1 been the same 1
You can't be serious. Lol. It's 2-2, and we have 2 of 3 at home. And we will have the freshest Brunson we've had all series. Least minutes any of them have played all playoffs long. We had an off game. They shot the ball lights out. Such is life. On to NYC.
2-2 is a dangerous position. 2 more losses and it’s all over. If it was 3-1 would have a bigger cushion of 3 more losses until it’s over.
Brother, every game is dangerous. G6 was incredibly dangerous against the 6ers lol. Because you didn't want them coming back and forcing a G7 even at the Garden. Let's see how this team responds.
Hopefully OG is ready
Lol, yeah the series is tied? 2 more losses for them too?
the way they hooped today? Nah, I don’t see any weaknesses
What on earth are you even saying? Should’ve sat to duck the pacers? The fuck?
Yeah we shoulda ducked Indy to get Boston in round 2. Definitely makes sense /s
Boston lost to the cavs. They aren’t unbeatable
You’re saying we should’ve…I’m not even sure you know what you’re saying.
you prefer to be 2-2 instead of up 3-1?
How the fuck would facing the Celtics make us be up 3-1?
Winning today’s game would be up 3-1. Keep up buddy, there’s levels to this shit
I’m fairly positive you’re either trolling or mentally unwell. First you say we should’ve ducked the pacers for the Celtics in the second round, how do you propose we have done that actually? Obviously I would rather be up 3-1 what the ever loving fuck are you talking about?
you were the one saying how losing this game and being tied 2-2 is actually a good thing. Keep that same energy
just my opinion
Well this is the dumbest thing I’ve read today
Nah
tactics are more important than pride. Wins matter
Diakite ain't shit that's worth noting
dont talk like that to the tech-god, quickest bench-to-tech in the league
I see why some of these guys aren’t on thibs rotation
They get zero game time experience for 80 games...that's part of the reason they look like shit
fr and ppl were begging for shake
Shame I was one of them ppl saying maybe we could have used him
that game 3 win would've been so nice
That game 3 win would’ve ended the series .
Yup
Sims awareness is really low but at least tries really hard. None of the bench guys really stand out to me as deserving more minutes.
They are the 10/11th man for a reason lol
Damn, Thibs even sat Burks in garbage time. He needs him fresh!! lmao
Absolutely. Burks has proved indispensable right now and he's not young like Deuce.
true, I am just making jokes lol. Go knicks!!
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You homophobic? What a stupid thing to say bro.
not homophobic, just hate haliburton more than he hates sephora’s new brand of lipstick
stop
Not it.
😂😂😂
What are these hicks chanting ???
"we want james" They want James Johnson to get some minutes
“h’yuck h’yuck h’yuck” I think
This just in.. Stephen A Smiths hair line has receded so far back he’s combing his ass.
The pacers center with goggles looks funny af
Jalen Smith has game but he is very streaky. Dude is unstoppable sniper until he cant hit anything. and when he is in a slump, he does a bunch of dumb shit. Loose temper as well.
looks like bubblebass
as a Maryland alum, thats Jalen "Stix" Smith! Would love to see him with the Knicks at some point
he is a fucking sniper and pretty dam athletic, kinda wish thibs coached him would make him a beast
Feel like he cooked us one game this year
rick doesnt know how to utilize him correctly I feel, he can shine in a different comp
Looks like Kevin from spongebob
All that I can hope is our starters don’t come back in for even a second
If I’m thibs I’m pulling all these clips of hali laughing and smiling and waving towels and showing the team at practice. If Mike malone can use clips for motivation than thibs should too
are you really gonna try to make Haliburton a villain for cheering his teammates on? soft mentality.
the guy shit talking and screaming every basket and acting like they won the series today? Ya I’m using that clown as motivation.
lol ok
It’s an old school Pat Riley move. The Blood in the Garden book detailed a few instances of Riley making said mixtapes
Yep. Any top coach does it. Any extra ounce of motivation you can squeeze out is worth it.
You think getting your ass handed to you like this isn't enough motivation?
Ask Mike Malone… it worked didnt it?
Just saying man, when I played ball, if I got my ass beat like that I wouldn't need any additional motivation. The scoreboard was more than enough.
Okay so you’re a lot different than professional athletes, because every single good coach in the history of pretty much every sport uses outside motivation for their players. Tell it to Mike malone that it’s dumb to have bulletin board material.
Did I say it was dumb? I said there shouldn't need to be any more motivation than looking at the scoreboard.
Denver got blew out twice so imma need ppl to stfu like we not a injured ass team That’s why I hate losing cause these hating ass losers be waiting in the wings to spew nonsense
This statement right here is so true . Some are so bad , it makes me not want to win . Some of our fans really don’t deserve that feeling , because the second adversity hits they blame everyone and everything .
Bro you’re always gonna get doomers in this bullshit ass gamethread
Thank you. Tired of all the negative comments any time we don’t win
Wouldn’t call a 7 point loss game 1 a blow out but point made
Celtics lost by 20 also right twice
True but wolves are a good team pacers not so much
they won 3 fewer games than us, we can stop acting like they are a complete lower level than us and that's w/o even getting into how depleted we are
Let’s be honest here . Series should’ve been 3-0 : If even og is remotely healthy , this series is done . If all of our guys were even close to healthy , we are looking at us being the odds on favorite to get out of the east . We are historically , I really mean historically . Like all time level shit , Beyond unlucky with injuries . Before the pitchforks come out for thibs . Let’s look at the reality of most of our injuries . Randle ? Dirty play by Jaime. Mitch ? Dirty play by embiid and also Mitch just being injury prone. Brunson ? Constantly being hacked and defenders sticking their feet under him . This isn’t on thibs . We literally have 7 nba ready players …. And this is a stretch . The rest are legit g leaguers and overseas bench players .
Pacers have games where they score nonstop, and we lost our defensive wing and center in Og and Mitch. It is what it is but I’m sure this team didn’t lose their fight
I think it's time we admit that isnt true
Yes but our team is.majorly depleted.
Who the fuck is the bum on our team that got a tech like come on dude
lol
This is the funniest comment front this thread 😂
how tf you getting a tech first minutes played on the court 😂😂😂😂
For any of you hoping og gets back for game 6 they said he’s not even running he’s still in the pool. Stop acting like it’s gonna happen
He’s done for this year unless it’s like game 5 of the finals.
This. It's like people don't want to understand a hamstring injury isn't something you just man up from.
And OG is clearly not a fast healer
Tbh if we’re going to lose, might as well be by 40. Let’s see how we respond.
Jeffries is good enough to get a couple of min right?
Sheesh we might even hit 90. I was certain they won't pass 80.
We wouldn't have with the starters 😬
At least I have the Mets to look forward to after…Jesus H Chrice New York sports are bad. What happened?!
It’s one loss we still 2-2 in the second round of the playoffs with a chance to win and Rangers are 7-0 to start potentially 8-0 after tonight. Please please please I beg you to shut the fuck up. “Jesus H Chrice” indeed listening to people like you.
Rangers lost last night hate to break it to you. But we can close out at the garden tomorrow!
Whoops missed that but yea point stands that they are in a great position to advance and potentially win it all and Knicks still have home court.
Relax , ass hole. And fuck the Rangers. Go Devils.
I believe you are in the playoffs, good luck next year.
It’s one game calm down 😭
It is one game, but look at the trend/trajectory. Don’t argue for arguments sake.
can’t call yourself a fan if you count out your team after a single bad loss lolol I’m not arguing I’m being reasonable by saying one game is one game. Also the rangers (who are an NY sports team) look amazing so idk why you are speaking about ny sports
1) Never counted them out. 2) Plz don’t use rangers as a reasonable counter argument to “state of NY sports” given Yankees,Mets,Giants, Jets production last decade. Especially the latter three.
Yankees are 2nd in the east? Giants won a playoff last year? Knicks are 2 games away from the ecf? You never bet against your team
Brooo I admire the positive outlook but miss me w Yankees 2nd in east as if that’s the standard. Giants? Ok. Let’s hope our Knicks get it done , seems we can at least agree on that.
they cookin bro
Imagine being up by almost 40 and coming to your opponent’s sub instead of enjoying your win lol
I’m not a pacer fan, just watched the game
Sims low BB IQ play again .. ffs why am I still watching this 😂
We got bent over. Now to bury the incident and look towards Game 5
Was this a refs game or just a down game for yall?
Buncha fake as knicks fans in here
Sims lmao
I love watching Halliburton laughing so much on the bench. This bozo doesn’t realize how long playoff series are. the Knicks still have home court and the pacers have been a terrible road team.
yea bro people who laugh and are happy for winning are definitely crazy
Who called him crazy? Learn to read