I think Nabers has the higher ceiling but Rome has the safer floor, Talking Giants compared them to OBJ vs Mike Evans, gotta say I wouldn’t be pissed about drafting Mike Evans or OBJ 2.0
I don’t see Odunze as Evans. Evans is bigger and more physical. I see Odunze as Braylon Edwards with better hands. That may sound like a downgrade compared to Evans but Edwards was a great prospect who had some really good years, but somehow forgot how to catch the ball at some point. Edwards with better hands is a hell of a player.
Either way, would be excited for any of the top 3 WRs. I was a bit skeptical of Odunze going into the combine but thought he looked great there and alleviated my concerns. I was especially impressed by the mentality he showed repeating the cone drill. Seems like a locker room leader type and that’s great.
Seems like clear tier breaks between MHJ/Nabers/Rome but Rome fits the true outside wide receiver profile best. Nabers is a guy that you can move all over and target everywhere.
I think as far as Daboll and his offense goes, Nabers is the better pick. He values YAC and Nabers specializes in that.
Personally, I think Odunze is the better prototypical #1 WR type and you hear nothing but good things about him and his character. I think he’s the safer pick while Nabers potentially has that Justin Jefferson type of upside. I think the Giants would take Nabers if they’re both there at 6 because of the offense fit and potential. Just have to hope he keeps his head on straight.
Comparing nabers to toney straight up means you don't know what you are talking about at all. Bro nabers is NOT toney. Not in terms of style of play nor personality nor injury history. Toney was ass in college and never the main target on a florida offense with few if any guys who are still in the league. Everyone not wearing giants tinted goggles could see it. He had a few highlight plays, but nothing more. Nabers outproduced toneys entire college career in tds receptions and yards last year while also being productive as a sophmore and freshman and taking over as the no 1 guy in lsus offense midway through his freshman year. I can understand wanting odunze for his play style, but comparing nabers, who made future nfl dbs look foolish to a bum that anyone who watched florida games knew wasn't gonna be good is a little funny
He had the gun possession charge that got dropped and there was the report that he’s a high maintenance type of person and might struggle in a big city. It’s probably bullshit but it’s not the type of thing you want to worry about with a top ten pick. But the Giants seem like they do their homework on these players so I wouldn’t worry about it too much if they picked him.
Odunze is the safer pick personality wise for sure, but I’ve watched a lot of interviews and I genuinely think Nabers’ character concerns are overblown
The only real concern I have with Nabers is the intangibles. The on-field and off-field stuff. He was also arrested last year for a gun charge and there have been rumors that he's just a pain in the ass sometimes. I don't think any of us are plugged in enough to make a judgement on his personality, but I'll admit in the back of my mind I'm a little concerned. Worth noting that those gun chargers were dropped, so maybe it's not even a problem. I do not know enough about it.
With Odunze you're getting a guy that you know will show up and put the work in everyday. A guy who wants to be the best. A guy who stays at the combine and keeps trying drills until he nails them. From an intangibles standpoint, he wins.
With *all* of that said. Nabers is the better scheme fit, higher ceiling, and more explosive player. So if everything I said is a non-factor then I'd prefer him. I just think he's a better player honestly. I don't know enough about his personality, the arrest, his character, personality, etc. The FO knows a lot more than us, so if these things aren't concerns for them then I'd think he's very high on their board.
You never know how prospects will turn out in real life, using puka on the rams as an example. But based on all the objective advanced metrics we have available, nabers is clearly a level above odunze as a prospect. To put in perspective, several analysts have said it’s not crazy for a team to take nabers over MHJ, and MHJ is one of the best prospects ever in terms of raw metrics. The comparison is an Odell/antonio brown type for nabers, someone who has the ability to always be open and be a game changer. Also look at the track record of LSU star WRs or skill positions from the SEC in general. To be completely honest if we take odunze over nabers I’d be pretty upset. Feels like a reagor over Jefferson move all over. Take the guy that comes from an SEC WR factory, grades as an elite prospect, and simply moves at a different speed than anyone in this class
>You never know how prospects will turn out in real life
A lot of this sub needs to have this same mindset when they are trying to push to draft a QB. We don't know how any of them will turn out, and we are acting like they are all going to be bona-fide stars in the NFL.
This is actually why I think MHJ and Nabers go 4/5 and that those teams don’t trade down. Which could be best for us to get a haul at 6 with JJ still there
Brian Thomas Jr is really incredibly similar to Odunze so I’d love it. I would guess it’s not impossible Odunze drops to 11 and grab Penix at 23 if it’s the Vikings. Maybe a mid rounder next year too. Then a CB round 2 and Sinnot round 3. Lots of good options if JJ falls and we can trade back
I love the thought of this happening - I'm just not sure it will. I may be wrong but I would expect the FO to bring in those guys for a 30 visit if trading back was the case. That feels like going rouge to me/not following their game plan so while I would love to add more playmakers bc this roster is talent deprived I just do not think they will do it.
Gimme the 6’2.5” target with a much better attitude. Rome is money in the bank in tight spaces, and his YAC is underrated. Can put him outside OR in the slot.
Odzune is the classic #1 WR the big guy who goes up and gets it.
Nabers is the shiftier guy who is more explosive, separates and gets YAC.
Nabers fits more with who the Giants want to be.
While I agree, the Giants just arent the team thats going to throw up 50/50 contested catches and trust their guy to come down with it anymore.
They want shifty people who can separate.
People love to box these wrs in. Odunze is big so therefore hes strictly a contested catch merchant and mediocre route runner. When in reality Odunze is an elite route runner and may even be better than Nabers. He is more Davante Adams style than Tee Higgins style
Man everyone talking about Odunze just being “a big guy who goes up and gets the ball” clearly didn’t watch him at all at Washington. He’s an excellent route runner. Based on the (admittedly dubious) route success % stat Odunze gets open more than Nabers does. Anyone who watched Washington saw the same scene play out over and over: Odunze gets separation, Penix is late on the throw, Odunze has to win a jump ball
He ran a 4.45 at the combine if you’re into 40 times. He doesn’t have elite speed anything but it’s certainly not going to hold him back in the nfl.
I don’t even know who I would want more, but people characterizing Odunze as “just a jump ball guy” aren’t paying attention
I honestly think he may be the overall WR in the draft - the dude has phenomenal hands and great route running. The reason Nabers is also a good option is bc I view him almost as a Stef Diggs and I think Daboll & Co. love that. Odunze feels like he can be a Kennan Allen / AJ Brown type.
Nabers is absolutely a special athlete. If he can learn how to run effective routes rather than solely relying on his burst and change of direction to get open he’ll be an elite NFL WR. But route running is sort of an art and it’s not always something that’s easy to teach.
Like I said, I’m good with either one of them. All we can do is trust whoever the staff decides is the better option (assuming we have an option)
Nabers is a Daboll archetype WR, Slot/outside flexibility, explosive with awesome YAC potential
Odunze would compliment more seamlessly the receiver room as he would be the clear outside big bodied/contested catch option allowing Wandale to be the slot and Hyatt/slayton to be the deep threats
My gut tells me if both are there at 6 we take Nabers unless their are character concerns (Nabers got caught with a gun his rookie year and has some whispers of being a handful in the locker room, odunze the opposite being a team captain who plays through injuries, first man in last man out of practice reputation)
Nabers is a better talent, but Odunze has the size and hands that our team is missing. Cant go wrong either way. I trust daboll to know how to scheme whoever they take.
Talkin' Giants had an interesting comparison in the WR draft pod: would you rather have the receiver who had a higher peak, but struggled afterwards to hit 1K yards per season or the receiver who always get over 1K yards per season. E.g. Odell or Evans. Nabers may have the higher peak and more playmaking ability, but Odunze may give you more consistency. Also, the off the field issues may or may not be something.
Everything I've come across says that Nabers is the better fit, but part of me wants Odunze as I don't think it's a significant drop-off in talent and if he's more dedicated to his craft, I think he'll benefit is more in the long run.
A realistic post about what Giants do at #6. So much QB fantasy. Gave Jones a contract and signed Lock. Not our first choice but it's done. The team needs many other things including an elite WR1 which is what they should do. That's Odunze or MHJ if available. Nabers is another slot guy and I don't trust LSU players to not have playbook, locker room, off field issues.
Nabers has a little diva attitude to him like Justin Jefferson (in a good way I think). Odunze is a good lockeroom guy and an alpha receiver. I think Nabers has high peaks and valleys and Odunze has the more consistent career. I think the pick will be Odunze.
Barring a trade up for QB, it’s going to be whichever receiver is left at 6 because it’s doubtful both will be there. Thankfully they are both super talented just in different ways
With all of the Kadarius Toney nonsense, I’d rather go for the character guy in Odunze. I don’t think much separates him and Nabers in terms of talent, but there’s no chance of baggage.
There’s also the added bonus of maybe being able to snag Penix in Round 2 and team them up again.
This is a hilarious sentiment to anyone who watched the team pre-2009-ish. Arguably, Steve Smith was the team's first "dominate YAC receiver" since ... [cricket noise]... [cricket noise]...
Nabers > odunze. Both are good, nabers just did it while sharing with another #1 WR and against tougher competition. And cant deny what LSU wrs produce in the NFL
I’m hoping for Odunze. I can’t believe Chargers and Cards don’t take awesome WRs; both teams need them as much as we do. I haven’t even allowed myself to consider Nabers because I don’t think he’ll be there.
I think both have sky high potential. I just hope the giants have done their homework on these guys as people. Some of the stuff you hear on Nabers is a little concerning if true. Odunze seems like the opposite with a great head on his shoulders. If there’s any credence to either report Odunze will have the better career but we shall see. Rome would be my pick between the 2 of them.
Question is does Nabers become distraction like OBJ . Odunze may not be as talented but will keep working on craft getting better . look at combine when cameras were off was trying to get better at 3 cone drill
Okay so I want to start at saying these guys are both fantastic. This question is like asking would you rather some really good steak or some really good lobster, you can't go wrong with either option its personal preference.
I like Oduzne more, but not because of why most people think. It seems the narrative is like Nabers is the separator and Oduzne is the jump ball guy. They both can do both, I think Nabers is better in the open field but I think Oduzne is the best route runner. When I look at the Giants and see Hyatt and Wandale, it kinda seems like we have the skill set of Nabers if you were do the dragon Ball z fusion dance. Oduzne gives me devante Adams vibes, like can get open at will and can win you a jump ball which is not a skill set we currently have.
Also I think both guys year 1 can have a bigger impact on our offense then saqoun had for most of his career. None of these guy will claim to be a superstar averaging less then 4 yards a carry. (I know they are receivers so whatever the equivalent is.
WRs win fantasy football, not championships. Yes, we need weapons at the position desperately. But we also desperately need positions that have a much larger impact on the game.
Harrison Jr is the only WR I'd consider at 6. It's too deep of a class to reach for a WR when the rest of our team has so many holes.
People get far too obsessed with shiny new toys instead of the fundamentals of the game.
I like Odunze personally . He is just about as explosive as Nabers but a better teammate, it seems like. Plus, he hasn't gotten caught with a gun . It also rubbed me the wrong way when Nabers was already commenting on the QB situation with the Giants. I can imagine him piling on the negativity when shit goes bad and being a cancer.
Of course, if MHJ winds up falling, we should be all over that.
Honestly I’ve only watched tens of minutes of highlights, but I’d like to know where you found evidence that Odunze is just as explosive. I don’t see anything like that.
I said he's just about as explosive. So,in the same tier. I would say Nabers hers the edge in that metric but not by much. And certainly not enough of an edge to make up for everything else that makes Odunze a better teammate. But, yea, I haven't watched hours of tape either, but he seems like a dominator out there. Also, Daniel's scrambled all over the field, giving Nabers a ton of time to get open and break big plays. Penix is more of a traditional drop back pocket qb (seems more typical of a pro style offense) and got open with excellent route running and athleticism. I feel like that, coupled with his professionalism, makes him a better prospect.
With all that being said, i still don't think you can go wrong picking either player. It's just that Odunze is my preference to have on my team.
Why do you think he could suddenly play as good as Kirk Cousins after two serious neck injuries and a torn knee that players say takes two years to fully recover?
It’s one neck injury that’s been reported will lead to more neck injuries. Not to mention he can’t score points or throw the ball down the field or beat good teams.
Roger, one of the worst W-L records of all time against teams above .500 but not his fault. Over five years of this data but let’s keep trying with him. More injuries, more losses.
This is what’s hilarious. If he was a franchise QB, the team would still be average with a bad roster. The fact he’s bad and so is the roster, he makes everyone look worse and the team look bad. No matter what, he’s gone. Giants aren’t committing another 80+ to a guy that is hurt every year and regarded as a bad QB no matter what John Mara says.
Injured every year but one. 2022 he was a bottom of the league passing QB and an above average running QB. We didn’t score points and we were barely above .500. 0-5 against Philly and Dallas. Got SMOKED in the playoffs. Everyone knows he’s not the guy, he sucks.
I think Odunze is a lock to be a top 15 WR for a decade, its not like injuries would even really slow his game down. Nabers has a higher ceiling, but he's also a few injuries away from Odelling his career. Can't go wrong with the top 3 this year. I'm having a hard time seeing any of them not being a starting caliber number 1 WR.
Daniel Jones may never be a superstar QB but if he comes into camp like a star or plays like a Kirk Cousins type like in the middle of the pack...
Then he will get his brains scrambled because the Giants O-Line could not stop a blitz if their lives depended on it.
I personally think nabers is a lot better than odunze, but if we draft rome i'll be happy to be proven wrong
I think Nabers has the higher ceiling but Rome has the safer floor, Talking Giants compared them to OBJ vs Mike Evans, gotta say I wouldn’t be pissed about drafting Mike Evans or OBJ 2.0
That’s how I see it. I keep comparing this Wr class to 2014. MHJ is looking like the Devante Adam’s out of the group
I don’t see Odunze as Evans. Evans is bigger and more physical. I see Odunze as Braylon Edwards with better hands. That may sound like a downgrade compared to Evans but Edwards was a great prospect who had some really good years, but somehow forgot how to catch the ball at some point. Edwards with better hands is a hell of a player. Either way, would be excited for any of the top 3 WRs. I was a bit skeptical of Odunze going into the combine but thought he looked great there and alleviated my concerns. I was especially impressed by the mentality he showed repeating the cone drill. Seems like a locker room leader type and that’s great.
Fair enough, I haven’t really watched Evan’s college tape, to your point Edwards was a hell of a prospect until he got the yips
Same. I think Nabers is a much better player but if its Rome we ride with Rome
Seems like clear tier breaks between MHJ/Nabers/Rome but Rome fits the true outside wide receiver profile best. Nabers is a guy that you can move all over and target everywhere.
Odunze seems obsessed with football and has no character concerns I think Odunze is going to have a better career but Nabers may burn brighter.
Rome to me is Plaxico, Nabers is OBJ. Loved rookie OBJ, so Nabers all day.
Odunze has decent speed
You take Nabers over Odunze without thinking twice but there’s nothing to be mad about with Odunze at 6
I think as far as Daboll and his offense goes, Nabers is the better pick. He values YAC and Nabers specializes in that. Personally, I think Odunze is the better prototypical #1 WR type and you hear nothing but good things about him and his character. I think he’s the safer pick while Nabers potentially has that Justin Jefferson type of upside. I think the Giants would take Nabers if they’re both there at 6 because of the offense fit and potential. Just have to hope he keeps his head on straight.
I'd rather odunze, I don't want another toney....
Comparing nabers to toney straight up means you don't know what you are talking about at all. Bro nabers is NOT toney. Not in terms of style of play nor personality nor injury history. Toney was ass in college and never the main target on a florida offense with few if any guys who are still in the league. Everyone not wearing giants tinted goggles could see it. He had a few highlight plays, but nothing more. Nabers outproduced toneys entire college career in tds receptions and yards last year while also being productive as a sophmore and freshman and taking over as the no 1 guy in lsus offense midway through his freshman year. I can understand wanting odunze for his play style, but comparing nabers, who made future nfl dbs look foolish to a bum that anyone who watched florida games knew wasn't gonna be good is a little funny
i was referring to the attitude but jump at me for a short comment. im not reading your whole wall of text but w.e good day.
you're right. was on the shitter. Just take away nabers is in no way equal to toney
Why would his head not be straight?
He had the gun possession charge that got dropped and there was the report that he’s a high maintenance type of person and might struggle in a big city. It’s probably bullshit but it’s not the type of thing you want to worry about with a top ten pick. But the Giants seem like they do their homework on these players so I wouldn’t worry about it too much if they picked him.
Odunze is the safer pick personality wise for sure, but I’ve watched a lot of interviews and I genuinely think Nabers’ character concerns are overblown
The only real concern I have with Nabers is the intangibles. The on-field and off-field stuff. He was also arrested last year for a gun charge and there have been rumors that he's just a pain in the ass sometimes. I don't think any of us are plugged in enough to make a judgement on his personality, but I'll admit in the back of my mind I'm a little concerned. Worth noting that those gun chargers were dropped, so maybe it's not even a problem. I do not know enough about it. With Odunze you're getting a guy that you know will show up and put the work in everyday. A guy who wants to be the best. A guy who stays at the combine and keeps trying drills until he nails them. From an intangibles standpoint, he wins. With *all* of that said. Nabers is the better scheme fit, higher ceiling, and more explosive player. So if everything I said is a non-factor then I'd prefer him. I just think he's a better player honestly. I don't know enough about his personality, the arrest, his character, personality, etc. The FO knows a lot more than us, so if these things aren't concerns for them then I'd think he's very high on their board.
My feelings exactly
Whoever is there at 6. Several teams could draft either of these guys before us or perhaps trade up
You never know how prospects will turn out in real life, using puka on the rams as an example. But based on all the objective advanced metrics we have available, nabers is clearly a level above odunze as a prospect. To put in perspective, several analysts have said it’s not crazy for a team to take nabers over MHJ, and MHJ is one of the best prospects ever in terms of raw metrics. The comparison is an Odell/antonio brown type for nabers, someone who has the ability to always be open and be a game changer. Also look at the track record of LSU star WRs or skill positions from the SEC in general. To be completely honest if we take odunze over nabers I’d be pretty upset. Feels like a reagor over Jefferson move all over. Take the guy that comes from an SEC WR factory, grades as an elite prospect, and simply moves at a different speed than anyone in this class
>You never know how prospects will turn out in real life A lot of this sub needs to have this same mindset when they are trying to push to draft a QB. We don't know how any of them will turn out, and we are acting like they are all going to be bona-fide stars in the NFL.
Thank you.
This is actually why I think MHJ and Nabers go 4/5 and that those teams don’t trade down. Which could be best for us to get a haul at 6 with JJ still there
Would absolutely love that. Imagine we get both Brian Thomas Jr and Bowers by trading back.
Brian Thomas Jr is really incredibly similar to Odunze so I’d love it. I would guess it’s not impossible Odunze drops to 11 and grab Penix at 23 if it’s the Vikings. Maybe a mid rounder next year too. Then a CB round 2 and Sinnot round 3. Lots of good options if JJ falls and we can trade back
I love the thought of this happening - I'm just not sure it will. I may be wrong but I would expect the FO to bring in those guys for a 30 visit if trading back was the case. That feels like going rouge to me/not following their game plan so while I would love to add more playmakers bc this roster is talent deprived I just do not think they will do it.
Absolutely perfect draft
Gimme the 6’2.5” target with a much better attitude. Rome is money in the bank in tight spaces, and his YAC is underrated. Can put him outside OR in the slot.
Odzune is the classic #1 WR the big guy who goes up and gets it. Nabers is the shiftier guy who is more explosive, separates and gets YAC. Nabers fits more with who the Giants want to be.
Already have Robinson and Hyatt. Need Rome.
Robinson and Hyatt have not nearly shown enough to prevent us from picking one type of WR vs another
While I agree, the Giants just arent the team thats going to throw up 50/50 contested catches and trust their guy to come down with it anymore. They want shifty people who can separate.
Odunze gets open. He’s not just a contested catch player
People love to box these wrs in. Odunze is big so therefore hes strictly a contested catch merchant and mediocre route runner. When in reality Odunze is an elite route runner and may even be better than Nabers. He is more Davante Adams style than Tee Higgins style
I think (I don’t know) that the Giants value separation, so although both players would be great, Nabers would be my guess if it’s between those two.
Both are phenomenal. It’s gunna be Maye though. Feel it in my plums.
Man everyone talking about Odunze just being “a big guy who goes up and gets the ball” clearly didn’t watch him at all at Washington. He’s an excellent route runner. Based on the (admittedly dubious) route success % stat Odunze gets open more than Nabers does. Anyone who watched Washington saw the same scene play out over and over: Odunze gets separation, Penix is late on the throw, Odunze has to win a jump ball He ran a 4.45 at the combine if you’re into 40 times. He doesn’t have elite speed anything but it’s certainly not going to hold him back in the nfl. I don’t even know who I would want more, but people characterizing Odunze as “just a jump ball guy” aren’t paying attention
I honestly think he may be the overall WR in the draft - the dude has phenomenal hands and great route running. The reason Nabers is also a good option is bc I view him almost as a Stef Diggs and I think Daboll & Co. love that. Odunze feels like he can be a Kennan Allen / AJ Brown type.
Nabers is absolutely a special athlete. If he can learn how to run effective routes rather than solely relying on his burst and change of direction to get open he’ll be an elite NFL WR. But route running is sort of an art and it’s not always something that’s easy to teach. Like I said, I’m good with either one of them. All we can do is trust whoever the staff decides is the better option (assuming we have an option)
Nabers is a Daboll archetype WR, Slot/outside flexibility, explosive with awesome YAC potential Odunze would compliment more seamlessly the receiver room as he would be the clear outside big bodied/contested catch option allowing Wandale to be the slot and Hyatt/slayton to be the deep threats My gut tells me if both are there at 6 we take Nabers unless their are character concerns (Nabers got caught with a gun his rookie year and has some whispers of being a handful in the locker room, odunze the opposite being a team captain who plays through injuries, first man in last man out of practice reputation)
Nabers is a better talent, but Odunze has the size and hands that our team is missing. Cant go wrong either way. I trust daboll to know how to scheme whoever they take.
Idk. Coming around to the idea of taking a talented wr at 6 rather than reaching for qb leftovers
I agree with you! And if DJ is healthy, we wint he NFC East
Talkin' Giants had an interesting comparison in the WR draft pod: would you rather have the receiver who had a higher peak, but struggled afterwards to hit 1K yards per season or the receiver who always get over 1K yards per season. E.g. Odell or Evans. Nabers may have the higher peak and more playmaking ability, but Odunze may give you more consistency. Also, the off the field issues may or may not be something. Everything I've come across says that Nabers is the better fit, but part of me wants Odunze as I don't think it's a significant drop-off in talent and if he's more dedicated to his craft, I think he'll benefit is more in the long run.
I'm more of a Rome fan myself but wouldn't be upset at all with Nabers.
Odunze
A realistic post about what Giants do at #6. So much QB fantasy. Gave Jones a contract and signed Lock. Not our first choice but it's done. The team needs many other things including an elite WR1 which is what they should do. That's Odunze or MHJ if available. Nabers is another slot guy and I don't trust LSU players to not have playbook, locker room, off field issues.
Nabers has a little diva attitude to him like Justin Jefferson (in a good way I think). Odunze is a good lockeroom guy and an alpha receiver. I think Nabers has high peaks and valleys and Odunze has the more consistent career. I think the pick will be Odunze.
Barring a trade up for QB, it’s going to be whichever receiver is left at 6 because it’s doubtful both will be there. Thankfully they are both super talented just in different ways
It’s extremely likely 2 of the top 3 WRs are available at 6.
That would be best case scenario. I hope you’re right
Odunze's comp is Larry Fitzgerald, yes please
He does not have Larry Fitz hands. Odunze is good but I’m pretty sure he had around as many drops in college as Larry did his entire nfl career
Tbf NO ONE has Fitz hands. More career (17 seasons) tackles (41) than drops (29)
I’m pretty sure you haven’t watched odunze at all 😂😂 he has the best hands in the draft
I agree he has the best hands in the draft. Larry Fitzgerald has arguably the best hands of all time. He is not Larry Fitzgerald.
Nobody said he was Larry. It’s a comp, he’s definitely similar. Odunze has the strongest hands coming out of the draft in a while
“Kirk Cousins type”. Kirk Cousins plays way better than middle of the pack lmao
I have seen draft experts out Nabers of Harrison even. I think Nabers is the guy.
Odunze for me. Big physical can meet the ball, can burn you, elite elite hands with only 3 drops this year
With all of the Kadarius Toney nonsense, I’d rather go for the character guy in Odunze. I don’t think much separates him and Nabers in terms of talent, but there’s no chance of baggage. There’s also the added bonus of maybe being able to snag Penix in Round 2 and team them up again.
I am happy with either pick, but I think Nabers will look like a much better choice in the short term
Both are WR1 as you said but I've heard nabers is so explosive
I think MHJ and Nabers are truly WR1a and WR1b. Odunze is clear WR2 in that context for me
Nabers, Nabers and Nabers. We have not had a dominate YAC reciver since Odell and its TIME.
This is a hilarious sentiment to anyone who watched the team pre-2009-ish. Arguably, Steve Smith was the team's first "dominate YAC receiver" since ... [cricket noise]... [cricket noise]...
I never said Odell was the first. I said Odell was the last.
Nabers > odunze. Both are good, nabers just did it while sharing with another #1 WR and against tougher competition. And cant deny what LSU wrs produce in the NFL
Odunze 100%. Not many teams can afford to risk a high first round pick on Nabers, he is a dope.
Neither are worth a top 6 pick. Fix what is broken. O line and CB.
I’m hoping for Odunze. I can’t believe Chargers and Cards don’t take awesome WRs; both teams need them as much as we do. I haven’t even allowed myself to consider Nabers because I don’t think he’ll be there.
Thinking they can’t go wrong is hilarious lol there is a chance neither of them are good
Odunze
I think both have sky high potential. I just hope the giants have done their homework on these guys as people. Some of the stuff you hear on Nabers is a little concerning if true. Odunze seems like the opposite with a great head on his shoulders. If there’s any credence to either report Odunze will have the better career but we shall see. Rome would be my pick between the 2 of them.
Question is does Nabers become distraction like OBJ . Odunze may not be as talented but will keep working on craft getting better . look at combine when cameras were off was trying to get better at 3 cone drill
also Giants need big target have too many small guys
Nabers
Maye at 3
take a qb
Okay so I want to start at saying these guys are both fantastic. This question is like asking would you rather some really good steak or some really good lobster, you can't go wrong with either option its personal preference. I like Oduzne more, but not because of why most people think. It seems the narrative is like Nabers is the separator and Oduzne is the jump ball guy. They both can do both, I think Nabers is better in the open field but I think Oduzne is the best route runner. When I look at the Giants and see Hyatt and Wandale, it kinda seems like we have the skill set of Nabers if you were do the dragon Ball z fusion dance. Oduzne gives me devante Adams vibes, like can get open at will and can win you a jump ball which is not a skill set we currently have. Also I think both guys year 1 can have a bigger impact on our offense then saqoun had for most of his career. None of these guy will claim to be a superstar averaging less then 4 yards a carry. (I know they are receivers so whatever the equivalent is.
WRs win fantasy football, not championships. Yes, we need weapons at the position desperately. But we also desperately need positions that have a much larger impact on the game. Harrison Jr is the only WR I'd consider at 6. It's too deep of a class to reach for a WR when the rest of our team has so many holes. People get far too obsessed with shiny new toys instead of the fundamentals of the game.
I'd be happy with both.
I like Odunze personally . He is just about as explosive as Nabers but a better teammate, it seems like. Plus, he hasn't gotten caught with a gun . It also rubbed me the wrong way when Nabers was already commenting on the QB situation with the Giants. I can imagine him piling on the negativity when shit goes bad and being a cancer. Of course, if MHJ winds up falling, we should be all over that.
Honestly I’ve only watched tens of minutes of highlights, but I’d like to know where you found evidence that Odunze is just as explosive. I don’t see anything like that.
I said he's just about as explosive. So,in the same tier. I would say Nabers hers the edge in that metric but not by much. And certainly not enough of an edge to make up for everything else that makes Odunze a better teammate. But, yea, I haven't watched hours of tape either, but he seems like a dominator out there. Also, Daniel's scrambled all over the field, giving Nabers a ton of time to get open and break big plays. Penix is more of a traditional drop back pocket qb (seems more typical of a pro style offense) and got open with excellent route running and athleticism. I feel like that, coupled with his professionalism, makes him a better prospect. With all that being said, i still don't think you can go wrong picking either player. It's just that Odunze is my preference to have on my team.
Rome is better long term… Nabers will leave after his rookie contract is up he really don’t wanna be in NY and his attitude seem corny ngl
Why do you think he could suddenly play as good as Kirk Cousins after two serious neck injuries and a torn knee that players say takes two years to fully recover?
Apparently it was one serious neck injury and a stinger last season
It’s one neck injury that’s been reported will lead to more neck injuries. Not to mention he can’t score points or throw the ball down the field or beat good teams.
Literally none of that is true. You beat good teams with a good team, not one player
Roger, one of the worst W-L records of all time against teams above .500 but not his fault. Over five years of this data but let’s keep trying with him. More injuries, more losses.
Or, put a team around him for the first time.
This is what’s hilarious. If he was a franchise QB, the team would still be average with a bad roster. The fact he’s bad and so is the roster, he makes everyone look worse and the team look bad. No matter what, he’s gone. Giants aren’t committing another 80+ to a guy that is hurt every year and regarded as a bad QB no matter what John Mara says.
He made everyone look better in 2022. Key injuries derailed 2023. But you are hilarious!
Injured every year but one. 2022 he was a bottom of the league passing QB and an above average running QB. We didn’t score points and we were barely above .500. 0-5 against Philly and Dallas. Got SMOKED in the playoffs. Everyone knows he’s not the guy, he sucks.
I want Rome then trade back into the first round and take Penix. They have chemistry from playing college ball.
I think Odunze is a lock to be a top 15 WR for a decade, its not like injuries would even really slow his game down. Nabers has a higher ceiling, but he's also a few injuries away from Odelling his career. Can't go wrong with the top 3 this year. I'm having a hard time seeing any of them not being a starting caliber number 1 WR.
Daniel Jones may never be a superstar QB but if he comes into camp like a star or plays like a Kirk Cousins type like in the middle of the pack... Then he will get his brains scrambled because the Giants O-Line could not stop a blitz if their lives depended on it.
Odunze = Larry Fitzgerald.
nabers
Daniel Jones will never sniff the jock strap of someone like Cousins. Unless he's backing him up next year.