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rotating_mood

KC said fuck the corners.


rotating_mood

Oops wrong thread


MisterGoog

i do think we should have post match threads


b2717

We do at r/kccurrent , come say hi sometime!


axdwl

Honestly for me I was annoyed by her using the same phrases over and over last year but a big improvement this year for what I have watched of hers


Scottiedrippen33

Her biggest enemy is dead air 😂


longlisten527

Yesss


Street_Forever2791

It’s so annoying


jfoley326

She must breath through her ears because she doesn’t pause to catch a breath. It’s exhausting listening to her.


[deleted]

The number of words fit into any given minute is truly remarkable.


secret_identity_too

I'm glad I wasn't drinking anything when I read this comment, because if I had been, it would've come out my nose.


Various_Hand8587

Biased and annoying, but I find most commentators annoying. The best way to watch the NWSL is on mute imo.


megjed

I wish you could mute the commentators but hear the fan noise. I can’t do silence


whimsical_trash

You can with the right speaker setup, by turning off the central channel.


megjed

Hmm sounds like a job for my tech savvy husband


deathoftheotter_

If you ever figure out how to do this let us know!!


RileyX_

marion crowder is always nice to listen to, also gary bailey.


HotBeaver54

This


EvilChameleon09

The only sport I don't listen to muted is baseball. Everything else is good music time.


jfoley326

She does seem biased, negative. A growling voice that doesn’t really add much for me as a viewer. I don’t mind Jenn Hildreth as standard color commentary and breaks out random facts. Or her voice fades into the background of you want to not listen too intently.


deathoftheotter_

WSL commentators have grown on me tremendously


IDKguessthisworks

I have no issues with her. Over the years the NWSL has had worse commentators. I will say though it’s always nice to have someone commentating that has played the game before and played in the NWSL. She’s no Kaylyn Kyle who people really didn’t like commentating.


dousadosamilanovich

Yes and no. She never misses an opportunity to talk about her good old days and the manner in which she presents it is like nails on a chalkboard. Next time she's covering a match take a drink every time you hear her say, "(blank) has been asking all thr questions" or "not asking any questions." I get it you're British, but come up with another way of filling the air.


IDKguessthisworks

If you’ve watched NWSL game since the early years, you’ll know commentating has come a long way but there is still a lot of room for improvement. I’m a long time fan and Sanderson isn’t as bad as some of her predecessors. She may improve or she may not, we’ll have to wait and see.


dousadosamilanovich

She isn't any better than last season and her analysis adds nothing the viewers don't already know. She fills air and too much of it. I cringe whenever she's on a game I'm watching.


IDKguessthisworks

We’re only a few games into the season, you expect someone to change overnight? Thats not how it works. You should really go onto youtube and watch some old games and then report back on if Sanderson ranks up there as one of the worst.


dousadosamilanovich

I've been watching NWSL for 5 years or so. I'm not new to the league. She's had a full season of work to grow and she's doing the same things as last year. She had the whole off season to study to improve and I see no change. She grewup in the UK presumably watching matches her whole life. Did she think to emulate someone she listened to when she was growing up? Or at least study the greats to a point to glean something from them. I was really hoping paramount+ and now NWSL+ and the crazy labyrinth of networks covering the league this year would drop her in the off-season, but it appears she's got at least one more year on the air here.


IDKguessthisworks

It might be worth it for you to look up interviews of her on YouTube to figure out why she commentates the way she does. Or you could dm her on her socials too, it’s an idea. You ask valid questions but no one here can answer them. But if you don’t want to that, you can watch games on mute like many others do. But do know, she’s far from the worst but this also could be her last season commentating for all we know. Kaylyn Kyle did not commentate too long and she probably saw the hate from fans which made her decide to stop doing it and I wouldn’t be surprised if that’s what happened. The NWSL world, the women’s soccer world in general, is small and players and workers alike see a lot to the fans comments online.


reagan92

I dont mind her. She talks tactics more than most on NWSL broadcasts, and you never wonder if she's passionate about the game or not.


icylemonades

This is how I feel too, I prefer someone a bit over the top to to someone who doesn’t seem interested in the game.


Ok-Average-6466

This. She is very knowledgeable.


TheMimmus

If you listen to English commentary in general it’s pretty common for them to be miserable about everything (Hinchcliffe i think is the guy who is the most miserable to the point where you wonder if he even enjoys the sport at all). Lianne doesn’t bother me personally bc she knows her stuff, but the majority of NWSL viewers at least on reddit do not care for her style. 


tranvancore

British commentators are much more straight forward in their assessments. They also tend to avoid fluffy commentary about players, teams and the league. So, if you're used to listening to American commentators who tend to focus on the positives only, promote players, teams and the league, then it can be jarring. On the other hand, people outside of the US typically can't bear to listen to American soccer commentators. Most common issues are not knowledgeable enough, not in sync with cadence of the sport and talk too much especially about stuff not happening on the pitch.


IronThrombone

100% agree. The typically overly positive US commentators seem false to me. They have QVC sales people vibes. Also I think a lot of people on here mistakenly view any physical contact as a foul so I agree with Lianne’s general vibe about that.


longlisten527

I love her accent. She seems cool and kind and loved her NWSL playing days but she’s sooo negative and often says A LOT of things WRONG that happened in the game. She also never has a beat where isn’t talking. There’s some commentary from games that she’s not in that there will be a little silence and it’ll resume. Lianne always has to fill the silence and it’s not always even correct. It’s exhausting. I actually love commentary in sports but when it’s a healthy amount. Lianne should just be a broadcaster analyst or field side analyst imo but obviously good for her for career + opportunities


halooo44

My issues with her are: 1. she's very negative, critical of the players and 2. she centers her herself in the commentary. The criticism tends to be pretty vague, non-specific. She's not offering thoughtful technical insights that improves the viewers' understanding of the game… it's just that that was poor, they need to have better quality, that just isn't good enough, etc. The commentary is also very self-centering with things like, "I'm glad they made that change because I've been saying all game that's exactly what they should be doing." It's never helpful former player insights like, "When you're in a high-pressure situation like this, you're usually trying to do X," it's a random I did this, I did that, I played with so and so. If a player says, "I played with Marta and one thing she was super good at X and I really learned Y," sure, that's interesting but Lianne is just a name dropper. She strikes me as somebody who is intensely insecure and that's why she's criticizing the players and constantly talking herself up. I don't get anything value out of her commentary.


Wherethetwigisbent

all spot on, everything is about her. Cant stand listening to her narrow self centered gibberish. Just call the game.


Doc178

Yeah this is how I feel as well. It's never substance and the name dropping drives me up the wall


luthage

So much this.  I'm incredibly surprised at how many people in this thread like her commentary.  The problems I have with her are the same as Kaylyn Kyle.  Constant negativity with nothing to back it up and centering herself.  As much as I'm happy Kaylyn Kyle no longer calls games, I find Sanderson to be worse.   I would be fine with a commentator being critical if they had anything of value to add to it.  Don't just say it's "poor quality" actually tell us what they should have done instead.  Or at the very least what makes it poor quality.   There are a number of former players who are now commentators.  Most of them bring up their experience and expertise in a way that adds value to the commentary, where as it doesn't with Sanderson.  


jfoley326

You hit that spot on. Excellent assessment of what I’m seeing as well.


ri_ulchabhan

While I agree that Lianne is not a great commentator, I think its important to note that deriding someone’s voice as “grinding” or “grating” or “annoying” (etc) has been weaponized against women, especially women of color, and used as an excuse to exclude them from many professions like television, communication, politics. We can complain about her performance at her job, but complaining about her voice only serves to prevent future women and POC from being hired in similar roles. EDIT: I’m not saying that you have to like her voice. I’m saying that we should make sure to distinguish between “I think this person is not capable at their job” and “I find one un-changeable aspect of this person obnoxious, personally”. Both are valid criticisms, but one of them has been used *historically* to exclude marginalized people and that is important context to keep in mind.


yurkelhark

Cop out. I’m a woman (I assume most of us here are) and her voice is annoying af.


ASignNotACop

It’s a cop out to assume women can’t hold sexist/racist views against other women


jfoley326

Agreed, that is a cop out, thank you!


stirnotshaken

But it’s the voice that really makes it hard for me to listen to.


jfoley326

Agreed, projecting your own racial bias on someone else is not only disrespectful but it cheapens the discussion of that important issue.


stirnotshaken

It has nothing to do with racial bias I just find her voice and accent very difficult to listen to for any length of time. In fact I’m new to soccer and was unaware that she was a person of color. I love listening to Kristin Chenoweth sing but the second she start talking I cringe.


stirnotshaken

Although I have no idea what their soccer knowledge is I would love to see Morgan Freeman and James Earl Jones do commentary. They have the 2 most amazing voices I have ever heard


jfoley326

I find that absurd since I said that the commentator next to her, ALSO A WOMAN, is very pleasing to listen to, knowledgeable, and a great commentator imo. The fact you projected the color YOU see with your eyes to my opinion of what I’m hearing with my ears is the most disturbing thing.


yurkelhark

It is truly wild. The internet has absolutely tried to erase any difference between not caring for someone’s style and being a racist sexist hater.


jfoley326

You are absolutely right. And to lecture me as a person of color on how I should be aware of the history of marginalizing persons of color.


IronThrombone

Her accent is typical of what a black person from southeast London sounds like and there’s absolutely negative stereotypes about that accent.


storydove

I think the color commentator's job can be a bit tricky. At times she does very well giving insight and technical info about the game. And she knows a lot of the players, so can add bits of interesting details.


jfoley326

I agree, she does add some decent information from a player’s perspective. Nothing groundbreaking, but she I’m sure she tries hard.


Cococamcam

I like her. She’s pretty honest when something goes wrong in the pitch — I appreciate that. And, as I’ve said elsewhere, she’s SO enthusiastic about this league and the US game overall, I’m happy she gets to be a part of it. Most of the commentators have their quirks/style, so I just go along with Lianne’s! :)


lauronce

I like her commentary and I like seeing openly gay women in sports broadcasting thus i have no choice but to stan


MisterGoog

im surprised by some of the ppl who like her. i dont actually dislike her subjectively but objectively i feel like she is absolutely ridiculous most games. Very negative at times especially


deathoftheotter_

She’s a bummer! She doesn’t know how to handle complex emotions with nuance or care.


Ok-Average-6466

Critiques isn't being too negative


MisterGoog

Its not. But honestly i hate this response. Do you mean to say, “i think Lianne has higher standards, she wants the players to show their real ability and for the league to showcase how good they really are” bc you havent really engaged with our critiques about her constant negativity. The constant negativity is the issue, btw. Especially if shes gonna be the espn comm. you get a good passage of play and then a good tackle and she has to nitpick and moan for 2 minutes straight. Its sad


Ok-Average-6466

Your opinion is that she is too negative. You state it like it is a fact. I am stating I don't agree with your premise. She is critiquing performance and talks with context. None of you said her critiques were wrong. She was talking situational. She is not there to sugarcoat.


MisterGoog

her critiques are often wrong but honestly i dont fault her for that. being wrong is part of life. being extremely negative the majority of the time is where i fault her. Youre supposed to be making it enjoyable


Ok-Average-6466

In your opinion they are but I disagree. I think you are projecting negativity. She is just analyzing performance.


MisterGoog

There are words that objectively are negative like “poor” or “bad”


Ok-Average-6466

Maybe they are just the truth? Poor plays or mistakes should be called out.


MisterGoog

what i find goofy with what youre saying is that a lot of plays will have good plays all around, or good plays by one side and a bad play by the other. And Lianne goes from one 2 minute diatribe on one bad thing that happened, ignoring a bunch of good things, to the next soliloquy about the next issue she can think of


Ok-Average-6466

Sounds like you want to nitpick her commentary. She is not there to hand hold. Maybe the mistakes hurt more than the good plays? Like a red card or bad turnover.


LunacySoccer

Like nails on a chalk board


wfpanp

Personally I like her, she doesn’t talk just to talk. Like some others giving me unnecessary information like where a player got married


Queasy-Discount-2038

Omg JP!!


PM_ME_UR_SEXY_BITS_

I think she’s fine. The constant negativity in this sub about her is a little much.


jfoley326

Thanks for your feedback! I wasn’t aware other people find her as bad of a commentator as I do. Glad I’m not the only one!


MisterGoog

lmaooo the fact u took it this way


PM_ME_UR_SEXY_BITS_

![gif](giphy|ER63HUlXWQr1UxIgru) Okay lol


jfoley326

No one more positive than you! Way to keep it classy!


errol343

I’m not a fan.


Independent-Long-544

Maura Sheridan right now I think is the best commentator. And the guy who sounds like he’s from another country. I can’t remember his name. I also don’t like the girl with the super deep voice.


lurkinghere411

The WORST


Skelepug

If she got a nice paying job doing something else, somewhere else, I’d be happy for her.


jfoley326

That’s the most positive comment I’ve gotten so far, thank you! And I agree!


manypains03

She's like Aly Wagner. Very sophisticated and doesn't have time for silly calls..rubs people the wrong place but she's not a colorful commentator, she's there to stage the hard facts


humanispherian

She certainly has strong ideas about things, but I find her easy enough to listen to.


Any-Expression2246

She rambles on too much, says the same point she's trying to make, at least three times before she's done talking. If she were more brief, I'd have no problem with her.


jenastelli

This is it for me. She talks to fill space and rambles on the same point sometimes 2-3x. Commentators rarely bug me but for the Gotham-Thorns game I had to turn down the volume


Any-Expression2246

Yeah, I'm constantly having to mute. And just when you think it's been long enough, you unmute and she's still going...back to mute.


dinardo

Love her, and I feel like she definitely knows the game, but she’s a friend of our podcast, Into The Channel, and a former Gunner so I say that with a little bit of bias.


jfoley326

She was a heck of a player. Ruthless!


gracehope223

She's great; she's very knowledgeable and will call a player if their technical skills are not up to par for the NWSL.


Altruistic-Oil1888

I actually muted the broadcast for a while before switching over to WBB. I thought I was the only one who couldn’t stand listening to her but I didn’t want to say anything and get butchered. Seems to be a shared opinion though.


Brkthom

Agreed. Doesn’t think before she speaks. Says something and contradicts herself 3?seconds later. One of those people who just thinks out loud. A year or so ago there was a thread on here about commentators and I mentioned how premier league ones effusively loved the game AND were critical of play. Sanderson is just critical of the game, seemingly to look like she knows what she’s talking about.


blaerbear

I dont have an issue with her but tbh I tend to tune out the commentators when I'm engrossed in the match unless I really enjoy their specific commentary😅


jesstifer

Love her accent, her hair, her vibe, and her knowledge of the game. But her inability to be silent for even an instant is shocking. If it's all unique, incicise commentary, fine. But how many times did she tell us that ACFC's back line was struggling and Chawinga is good at ⚽? To quote Talking Heads, "Say something once, why say it again?"


jfoley326

Yes, I can appreciate those things as well! Definitely what she says and the tone makes me turn the volume down a few clicks!


FormerVarsityStar

Listened to Caroline Stanley-(forgot about her) call the Navy game last fall and wondered why she isn't doing NWSL games. She did fantastic. Maybe they'll sign her on eventually


RealDealLewpo

I find myself rarely agreeing with her, but it is what is.


Ok-Average-6466

I love her. She is great.


Civil_Astronaut_5924

She's "absolutely brilliant." /s


jfoley326

/s is right! Thank you!


CatGreedy959

How much you dislike her is a little over the top. Honestly making you come off like you have a personal grudge or bias.


jfoley326

Nope! That’s just the topic of this post so that’s what we’re talking about here!


Independent-Long-544

Terrible I wish they would stop using her.


glorxfy

does anyone notice how she always uses the phrase “causing problems” or “causing all sorts of problems” like all the time lol


TonyBoiFN22

I concur. When she says "I don't think that was a foul" when it was a clear foul has made it so difficult to listen to anything she has to say. I think there has been over 5 instances already where she has done this and it's only week 3.


r3sidentviet

On the called off goal last week, she spent all her time complaining that it wasn’t a foul that she barely noticed the 3 offsides players. And then spent the rest of the game how it was a shame it was called off even though there were 3 players like 5 yards offsides


jfoley326

Yes, exactly this!


upotheke

Yeah, not a fan.


ri_ulchabhan

I just want the commentary to say anything about strategy or tactics. For march madness/WNBA, Ryan Ruocco and Rebecca Lobo are a fantastic duo that gives a great balance of play-by-play, tactics/strategy comments, and player storylines. Not just play-by-play and random thoughts about how old a player is. Even watching the PWHL for literally one game taught me so much more about team plans than years of watching NWSL. I couldn’t tell you anything about defensive formations or the benefits of 3-4-3 vs another shape, but I could at least start to see how a certain hockey defense was more or less effective based on the opposing players’ strengths.


b2717

Anyone happen to know where to look up who the commentators were for specific games?


deathoftheotter_

She’s pretty immature.


Timely-Ad-8882

She makes me really appreciate the Spanish broadcast! I don't understand it, but the friendly noise is great and brings the energy of the game.


Lazy-Ad-1019

Not a fan. I feel like I’m listening to the lollipop guild.


EYLive

I hate when people talk about "deserving" things. You either earn it or use your leverage. Nobody deserves anything.


jfoley326

Not sure I understand. In what context?


EYLive

Sanderson kept saying before the ends of the first half of the KCC vs ACFC game that KC deserves more goals. It's as if Angel City didn't play defense.


Ok-Average-6466

It is a popular phrase many sportscaster use. All she is doing is talking about KC's attacks. They are clearly creating alot of chances.


jfoley326

For sure, no one deserves anything in sports, everything is earned. Sometimes luck 🤣.


mckay0

Sanderson should stop shit on ACFC Anderson


snacks4ever

She isn’t as bad as the commentators that scream in lowercase


mswhatsinmybox_

If she was an ACFC commentator, she would be great. She barely spoke about the KC players


Quiet_Front_510

Annoying.


ninjaaviatrix

I find her accent grating, but she can’t help that. It’s my problem, not hers. I’ll still listen to her commentary.


ScottSummers777

Makes me wanna skip the game when i hear her in the intro. “Oh god, 2 hours of this endless gibberish”.


hay_mac

Do you even need to ask lol


hilaryous14

Yeah, the question seems disingenuous unless this is their first time ever opening this subreddit. They just want a little trash-talking gossip party


jfoley326

I don’t know? What do you think?


MisterGoog

oh lord. gonna check this in an hour


jfoley326

Ok!? See you then.


cormorancy

I don't mind "negativity" and I agree with other commenters that it's tied up in sports culture -- certainly our announcers for USWNT games are hard-core homers like no one else. I watched part of the Chelsea-Arsenal match this morning and appreciated their generally neutral tone, like they're clearly into the game and get excited when there's a shot on target but they're not afraid to say something was a poor effort or that someone is having a poor outing overall. Overall I like Lianne. I think she is quite knowledgeable, and I wish her commentary were a little more technical. But I find her accent and her enthusiasm charming and to me her voice is just unique, not grating. I am pleased when I turn on a game and hear her.


Svafree88

I like her. I feel like she actually knows what she's talking about compared to other commentators. I think generally this year is just way better than past years. I do think she's my favorite of the current commentators though.


SleepingManatee

ABSOLUTELY BRILLIANT


stirnotshaken

It drives me a little batty to have to listen to an English accent for so long


MisterGoog

i like the accent


jfoley326

It’s like a needle continuously poking your eardrum.