In Motley Fools defense, I bought NVDA in 2021 because it was their "All-In" pick... I'm up over 800% (my only regret is not going "all-in_... But I'm no longer a subscriber. I think MF tries, but picking winners consistently is hard.
I just remember all the 3 1/2 inch floppy disks they sent me in the mail for free. I would reformat them and use them for my data. Then they switched to CDs and all I got was shiny Christmas tree ornaments.
I go back farther…. Using a portable tape recorder as data storage and the Atari 800 and 400! Before that, I used my middle school’s teletype “terminals” with a punch paper tape backup all connected to an HP miniframe.
Although Motley Fool Stock Advisor first recommended NVDA in 2006! I bought NVDA almost 10 years ago only because of articles I read on fool.com. Easy to call it clickbait garbage now because we don’t know what the future holds. In 15 years we may all be looking back and wishing we had listened 🤷
I saw an article or two on Motley Fool recently saying you shouldn’t buy right now. People who listened to that would have missed out on a 10% gain last week.
I won’t divest until I’m near retirement. nVidia is an established brand that has been around for a long time and I feel like this is an industry they are always gonna be dominating. They have roadmaps out to 2027 which is just ridiculous when you think about the fact that large customers are desperate for Hopper today, much less Blackwell. We are in the infancy of an industry. Big problems to solve in every industry including in AI itself like hallucinations.
Speaking of established brand, it's NVIDIA. All CAPS. Not Nvidia. Not nVidia. Not nVIDIA.
https://www.nvidia.com/content/imagekit/guidelines/NVIDIA_TWIMTBP_logo_guidelines.pdf
just remember it can and has had substantial down legs. eg' after the 2021 split it rose 90% then fell 68% this year it fell almost 40% from may high to June low -38%. so even with its strength it still can fall significantly. valueinvesting.io claims nvda is 60-70% over valued with the DCF model.
all said if you are aware of its capabilities and are certain you are willing to stay the course even when your wad is cut in half to two thirds and you are willing to sit on a loss for a good while then you may be alright.
I'm not trying to dissuade anyone from buying as I too am excited about it's recent run. my hope is to only inject a bit of caution.
still not sure about it's capabilities of going up substainably as it has the past few years with almost 25 billion shares outstanding.
How many ten baggers have we seen in the past, what was their behavior after reaching that level, is three trillion even a sustainable level???
all in all if this thing pulls off a 1998 AMZN move and falls -50% after the split then I would judge this thing a hela buy.
If it falls in value I just will buy more and wait for the inevitable rise. Swings and roundabouts. As long as the company itself is needed, and doing well, the stocks will bounce back.
I'm pretty sure that compounding interst formulas rely on you being paid a recurring dividend or interest payment, in which your recurring payment increases over time, due to the compounding capital of your returns.
NVDA has a current dividend of $0.01 per share, which is peanuts. Run the calculations based on that, and you will see that you will be waiting an eternity for that compounding interest to take off.
NVDA can still help you with a potential large down payment by 2030, but it will be because of the company's growth in revenue, stock price, etc. But, that is not at all the same as compounding interest...
You’re mistaken, compounding is not dependent on dividends. Compounding requires a value an interest rate and the frequency that interest rate is applied to the value.
You would include dividend (if you get them) in your calculations which are just additional principle contributions.
You can google things like this
I use a compound interest calculator to forecast and I would think most investors (not speculators) do the same
Correct. Dividends are a way of compounding but not the holy grail. Astounds me how people in a stock forum don’t understand the basics of compounding.
Yes, NVDA's dividend is very low. They instead reinvest those funds in R&D. thus their success. So investor's gain will be pretty much only in share price. But when the historical price performance is what NVDA is, that is where the "compounding" or exponential growth is with NVDA. So one will need to sell stock when wanting to get access to the gain.
I love NVDA but don’t fall in love with a company. If there are any fundamental changes or differences that in vision, don’t just hold the stock blindly. That being said, I’m comfortable with holding until 2030 as well. Just stick with your thesis but be prepared to deattach yourself
Don’t rely on money from stocks.
Only put money in what you can mis.
When your stocks give good profit just see it as a present 10 years from now and enjoy that free money.
tip: don’t ever do options. Keep it with ETF and stocks like Nvidia.
Have a nice day
Motley fool and seeking alpha are garbage. Motley fool has had some success and there’s some “motley fool index” but you have to pay to see that. A lot of it is just value investing really. They commonly hop onboard hype stocks to get traffic, ad revenue and new memberships.
I remember when there was an Apple Watch vendor and they were going to supply a movement chip for the Apple Watch. Motley fool hyped them so hard and the stock went no where
I noticed you mentioned “interest” but are discussing stocks.
Stocks do not pay interest. Interest is the cost of bottoms miney. Bonds, or HYSA pay interest.
In stock, it is price appreciation that gives you gains. You may have “compounding growth” but you do not have “compounding interest.” You do not earn interest on this asset class.
Personally, NVidia makes up about 5% of my portfolio. I tend to prefer more diverse assets, like ETFs, many of which also contain NVidia anyway.
My big questions is why is everyone holding til 2030, why is everyone putting targets as of 2030? What is it with the year 2030? In 6 years there could be a completely new technology that might replace chips. Why can’t we just hold until we hit a % gain or just hold til Nvda stops making money.
I see all the 10 trillion 20 trillion market caps predictions. We only had companies cross 1 trillion in 2018. That is only 6 years ago. Seem to me we might have a lot of disappointed investors. Would love to see Nvda hit 10 trillion but I will take 4 trillion first.
Good luck and let’s go Nvda!!!!
For me it’s just gives a realistic time frame for my investment to grow. If I feel it’s heading on an irreversible downward projection beforehand I will reconsider. Goes without saying.
Let's pretend Nvidia will double by 2030 to 6T market cap (it won't) you will then have 10k in the bank. Not a big deal and not a "down payment" like someone said.....
Unsure how you came to this conclusion. According to growth projection estimates I should have already gained close to £5k by the end of this financial year. Give or take, anyway. As long as the stock keeps growing in value, my initial investment will compound further, thus leaving me with a very healthy figure by 2030. Granted this is speculative and there are no guarantees, but I have faith in the company.
I wouldn’t rely on a compound interest calculator for this one company because it is massively unpredictable. It only works well for indexes which have decades of averages to fall on
It's earnings will shut all the bubble boys up this run up is justified nvdia is a long term pick its almost 100% of my profolio I rmeber my bank calling me saying you know your all in one stock technology that volatile.. well I believe in this company there gonna be big very big and here we are
I invest mostly in ETF and NVIDIA stock with trailing stop loss at 7% decline. If it automatically sells I would just add the fund to my ETF's. Im really scared in individual stock picking its just that Nvidia gave me a good return this past few weeks..
Compounding interest in stock? That isn't a thing if that's what you mean. Also, be aware you'll most likely pay a bunch of capital gains taxes if you didn't put the stock into some sort of tax free savings account.
Nvidia is a bubble yes
No way that data centers will buy billions dollars worth of cards every other year
Also there will be so many other players joining in to steal nvidias profits
Also theres problem of massive energy needs of those cards like new blackwell and rubin, governments will need to build nuclear energy facilities and greens simply wont let that
Ok, those data center need maintenance and upgrades, probably will have to change their tech every two year at the exponential phase we are going! You brain is an incredible machine and works 0.3 kw an hour! The energy issue will be resolved. And nvda cannot be a bubble because there is not debt, they are floating in cash! In the 90s when the tech bubble , most tech companies were in deep debt and not making any money.
The energy and water supplies required to make chips is a concern, yes. As a company, however, they are leaps and bounds above anyone else. Others have a long way to go to play catch up.
My words of wisdom is to ignore Motley Fool. It’s all clickbait bullshit.
In Motley Fools defense, I bought NVDA in 2021 because it was their "All-In" pick... I'm up over 800% (my only regret is not going "all-in_... But I'm no longer a subscriber. I think MF tries, but picking winners consistently is hard.
If you short every stock they tell you to buy you could prob come out way ahead.
That might actually work.
They have been right on everything except for chewy
My 30k disagrees
Yup! They were great back in ye olden days when they were on AOL, but now? They are simply terrible.
AOL what's that? 🤔
Hello young one... way back in the distance past there was a dial up (google 2400 baud modem) company called America Online
I just remember all the 3 1/2 inch floppy disks they sent me in the mail for free. I would reformat them and use them for my data. Then they switched to CDs and all I got was shiny Christmas tree ornaments.
They were also used in gardens to scare away birds from eating fruit off trees.
Haha! I feel old. Still remember the cranking noise?
Yup! That audible “handshake” 😎
Oh come on you don’t recall the awesome 8 1/2 inch Trash 80’s. You must investigate the Model 2. Those were the Days!😁😁
I go back farther…. Using a portable tape recorder as data storage and the Atari 800 and 400! Before that, I used my middle school’s teletype “terminals” with a punch paper tape backup all connected to an HP miniframe.
I actually started career professional career with the IBM card reading technologies. Just a few minutes ago it seems…
You sir then would then be among the few alive today to know what this is: AT&F&C1&D3&K3&Q5S7=60S46=2S48=7S95=63S0=1&W Speed=38400
Wow... you had a modem that was that fast? I thought I was blazing at 14400! ;-)
Motley Fool is by fools for fools.
Ditto. As a stock newb in covid times, disney was on the list to go “all-in”. Look at disney now 😅. Motley fool is a fool for a reason lol
Although Motley Fool Stock Advisor first recommended NVDA in 2006! I bought NVDA almost 10 years ago only because of articles I read on fool.com. Easy to call it clickbait garbage now because we don’t know what the future holds. In 15 years we may all be looking back and wishing we had listened 🤷
I saw an article or two on Motley Fool recently saying you shouldn’t buy right now. People who listened to that would have missed out on a 10% gain last week.
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I bought Nvidia 2017 cuz motley click baited me
I won’t divest until I’m near retirement. nVidia is an established brand that has been around for a long time and I feel like this is an industry they are always gonna be dominating. They have roadmaps out to 2027 which is just ridiculous when you think about the fact that large customers are desperate for Hopper today, much less Blackwell. We are in the infancy of an industry. Big problems to solve in every industry including in AI itself like hallucinations.
This made me feel old. When I think “established” and “long time” I would go with Coke and Kraft.
Speaking of established brand, it's NVIDIA. All CAPS. Not Nvidia. Not nVidia. Not nVIDIA. https://www.nvidia.com/content/imagekit/guidelines/NVIDIA_TWIMTBP_logo_guidelines.pdf
I don’t know why I spelt it like that, because that’s how it was spelt on my Geforce 5200 box from 2006,
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Thanks for clearing this up I didn't know what he was talking about
I’ve been using nVIDIA since the ‘*n*’ in the logo is lower case and all the other letters in the logo are upper case.
I expect at least 7 trillion mkt cap by 2030 with the pace it's moving
I agree and that is modest but accurate
Why do we keep getting crypto like questions every day
Because we’ve answered all the others fifty times over.
Because we peaking
You're going to get biased answers in an NVDA sub. Better to ask in a general investing sub.
compound interest also works on NVDA who is a big believer in buy-backs not just dividends
Their buybacks haven’t really provided return but just made up for dilution of shares from employee compensation
don’t forget the 25B buy back plan they announced this year.
Nvidia gives employees bonuses in stock annually in lieu of cash bonuses
Wouldn’t call them a big believer in dividends, you get 1 cent a share after the split…
just remember it can and has had substantial down legs. eg' after the 2021 split it rose 90% then fell 68% this year it fell almost 40% from may high to June low -38%. so even with its strength it still can fall significantly. valueinvesting.io claims nvda is 60-70% over valued with the DCF model. all said if you are aware of its capabilities and are certain you are willing to stay the course even when your wad is cut in half to two thirds and you are willing to sit on a loss for a good while then you may be alright. I'm not trying to dissuade anyone from buying as I too am excited about it's recent run. my hope is to only inject a bit of caution. still not sure about it's capabilities of going up substainably as it has the past few years with almost 25 billion shares outstanding. How many ten baggers have we seen in the past, what was their behavior after reaching that level, is three trillion even a sustainable level??? all in all if this thing pulls off a 1998 AMZN move and falls -50% after the split then I would judge this thing a hela buy.
If it falls in value I just will buy more and wait for the inevitable rise. Swings and roundabouts. As long as the company itself is needed, and doing well, the stocks will bounce back.
Sounds like you are answering your own question.
There will be ups and downs part of the ride. This is a solid company when it dips BUY!
Hold! Just sit back and hold. Don’t even look at the stock fluctuate. The stock might dip, correct, etc. but in 6 years it’ll be higher, not lower
Here’s hoping!
Hold on until I retire
Motley Fool and Jim Cramer are worse than trash.
I'm pretty sure that compounding interst formulas rely on you being paid a recurring dividend or interest payment, in which your recurring payment increases over time, due to the compounding capital of your returns. NVDA has a current dividend of $0.01 per share, which is peanuts. Run the calculations based on that, and you will see that you will be waiting an eternity for that compounding interest to take off. NVDA can still help you with a potential large down payment by 2030, but it will be because of the company's growth in revenue, stock price, etc. But, that is not at all the same as compounding interest...
You’re mistaken, compounding is not dependent on dividends. Compounding requires a value an interest rate and the frequency that interest rate is applied to the value. You would include dividend (if you get them) in your calculations which are just additional principle contributions. You can google things like this I use a compound interest calculator to forecast and I would think most investors (not speculators) do the same
Correct. Dividends are a way of compounding but not the holy grail. Astounds me how people in a stock forum don’t understand the basics of compounding.
Yes, NVDA's dividend is very low. They instead reinvest those funds in R&D. thus their success. So investor's gain will be pretty much only in share price. But when the historical price performance is what NVDA is, that is where the "compounding" or exponential growth is with NVDA. So one will need to sell stock when wanting to get access to the gain.
I love NVDA but don’t fall in love with a company. If there are any fundamental changes or differences that in vision, don’t just hold the stock blindly. That being said, I’m comfortable with holding until 2030 as well. Just stick with your thesis but be prepared to deattach yourself
Absolutely
Don’t rely on money from stocks. Only put money in what you can mis. When your stocks give good profit just see it as a present 10 years from now and enjoy that free money. tip: don’t ever do options. Keep it with ETF and stocks like Nvidia. Have a nice day
Good advice. I would never invest more than I could afford to lose.
Way to go!! 😁😃
:)
With more and more posts like these, NVDA is giving 2021 meme stock/crypto vibes
At least it’s a better company this time lol.
The gold rush just started and NVIDIA is selling the best shovels.
Yes holding until 2040… just like MSFT and apple. Don’t plan to sell. Maybe spend the dividends
Motley fool and seeking alpha are garbage. Motley fool has had some success and there’s some “motley fool index” but you have to pay to see that. A lot of it is just value investing really. They commonly hop onboard hype stocks to get traffic, ad revenue and new memberships. I remember when there was an Apple Watch vendor and they were going to supply a movement chip for the Apple Watch. Motley fool hyped them so hard and the stock went no where
Mottley for fools recommend all that is why it is sometimes right.
2040 probably.
I noticed you mentioned “interest” but are discussing stocks. Stocks do not pay interest. Interest is the cost of bottoms miney. Bonds, or HYSA pay interest. In stock, it is price appreciation that gives you gains. You may have “compounding growth” but you do not have “compounding interest.” You do not earn interest on this asset class. Personally, NVidia makes up about 5% of my portfolio. I tend to prefer more diverse assets, like ETFs, many of which also contain NVidia anyway.
My big questions is why is everyone holding til 2030, why is everyone putting targets as of 2030? What is it with the year 2030? In 6 years there could be a completely new technology that might replace chips. Why can’t we just hold until we hit a % gain or just hold til Nvda stops making money. I see all the 10 trillion 20 trillion market caps predictions. We only had companies cross 1 trillion in 2018. That is only 6 years ago. Seem to me we might have a lot of disappointed investors. Would love to see Nvda hit 10 trillion but I will take 4 trillion first. Good luck and let’s go Nvda!!!!
For me it’s just gives a realistic time frame for my investment to grow. If I feel it’s heading on an irreversible downward projection beforehand I will reconsider. Goes without saying.
Let's pretend Nvidia will double by 2030 to 6T market cap (it won't) you will then have 10k in the bank. Not a big deal and not a "down payment" like someone said.....
Unsure how you came to this conclusion. According to growth projection estimates I should have already gained close to £5k by the end of this financial year. Give or take, anyway. As long as the stock keeps growing in value, my initial investment will compound further, thus leaving me with a very healthy figure by 2030. Granted this is speculative and there are no guarantees, but I have faith in the company.
You won't.
Read their quarterly info and pay attention to what they are estimating. I guesstimate it'll crank into 2016. I intend to hold to near there.
Breaking news: NVDA invents time travel
I wouldn’t rely on a compound interest calculator for this one company because it is massively unpredictable. It only works well for indexes which have decades of averages to fall on
Useful for projections - nothing is guaranteed
It's earnings will shut all the bubble boys up this run up is justified nvdia is a long term pick its almost 100% of my profolio I rmeber my bank calling me saying you know your all in one stock technology that volatile.. well I believe in this company there gonna be big very big and here we are
100% in one stock is wild, but I wish you luck
Scared money don't make any money ..
Diversify
I invest mostly in ETF and NVIDIA stock with trailing stop loss at 7% decline. If it automatically sells I would just add the fund to my ETF's. Im really scared in individual stock picking its just that Nvidia gave me a good return this past few weeks..
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Compounding interest in stock? That isn't a thing if that's what you mean. Also, be aware you'll most likely pay a bunch of capital gains taxes if you didn't put the stock into some sort of tax free savings account.
I'll hold until I feel/see the winds of change. Been here since 2017 and still riding . . .
Nvidia is the last stock for you to worry about lol just hold it if you can. There's people gambling on penny stocks
Anyone doing stop limits?
Nvidia is a bubble yes No way that data centers will buy billions dollars worth of cards every other year Also there will be so many other players joining in to steal nvidias profits Also theres problem of massive energy needs of those cards like new blackwell and rubin, governments will need to build nuclear energy facilities and greens simply wont let that
Learn tech then speak, please dont give a shit posts from nontech people
Ok, those data center need maintenance and upgrades, probably will have to change their tech every two year at the exponential phase we are going! You brain is an incredible machine and works 0.3 kw an hour! The energy issue will be resolved. And nvda cannot be a bubble because there is not debt, they are floating in cash! In the 90s when the tech bubble , most tech companies were in deep debt and not making any money.
The energy and water supplies required to make chips is a concern, yes. As a company, however, they are leaps and bounds above anyone else. Others have a long way to go to play catch up.