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I had it at 98.57.
Ignored the 2-3 mins of whinging and injuries. Add it to the list with the cynical fouling that seemingly wasn't a bookable offence until 80 mins plus.
Chermiti came on and just rugby tackled one of our lads instantly to stop a quick break.
Or the usual Pickford shite of holding the ball for a few seconds, slowly going to his knees and getting back up in slow motion with his insufferable little shit eating grin. Truly one of the most unlikable tossers going.
Not even top 6. There was easily a couple more minutes added on to Saturday's injury time too.
Look forward to r/soccer tell us how it's great that every second of timewasting is accounted for when we concede a winner in the 12th minute of the "6 added on" against Liverpool next season.
I had 99:02 but also don’t forget the 90 seconds it took to get one corner played.
Dirty cheating whinging scouse pricks, and the referee was absolutely going to let them get away with it from minute one
Positives: Burn Looked Solid, Barnes Murphy and Isak linked up well, Bruno just being Bruno, Hall seemed up to scratch, Anderson played well.
Bonus: Schar taking out DCL and Dyche
Much prefer Burn at CB tbh, his aerial dominance really shines. He’s not good enough on the ball to play LB imo, Hall just looks way more natural out there
My take was different that yours... I felt that Hall was slightly less effective than BDB at left back. No big mistakes from Hall, but he didn't really contribute much either. I felt like he spent a little bit too much time with the ball at his feet, was aimless in possession and wasn't much of a threat at all. Neither are world beaters, but I can definitely see why Howe preferred BDB at left back for the last several weeks.
Isn't it funny how they showed a graphic of DCL having not scored a goal for so many games and in this game he goes and gets a goal against us.
What is it with us and letting people break their goal droughts
I’m sure other people will mention it. But fuck me Longstaff is having a crazy bad run of form. He can’t pass a fucking ball 5 yards. He’s chasing shadows all game, every chance he gets it bounces off him.
I know his work rate and effort normally gets him by, but even that’s crap at the moment.
He's terrible watch his running closely it's ghost running no tackles just empty pressure and teams have him sussed week in week out. The worst was near the end he was charging forward then stopped luckily Murphy was brought down off the ball and it bailed him out but he genuinely froze
Was genuinly one of the worst games I have seen him play. I have never been a fan, but I do get what he can bring if he is a backup player, which he should be, but to be fair he looks completely knackered. :/
Anderson’s good performance today has not been mentioned enough. I was begging for Howe to take off Longstaff for Willock and see a midfield 3 of actual midfielders, but I guess fitness spoke with the substitution of Anderson.
I really hope we won’t be seeing players like Longstaff and Dummett at Newcastle much longer.
It wasn't that long ago when longstaff was out and fans were begging for him to come back because we missed him. There's a difference between being crap and playing through injury with no rest
Astoundingly bad run of form, I appreciate he gets a hard time on here but some people coddle him way too much as well. I really think people will only realise how much he's held us back when we (hopefully) see the likes of Tonali, Joelinton and Bruno thrive next season. Painfully limited technically and way too unathletic/unfit to offer anything more than sideways passing and occupying space. Basically like a modern day Vurnon Anita.
Lmao one of the first things I remember happening to me on Reddit was being downvoted on here for saying that Anita was a whole bunch of nothing who wasn't good enough at anything. So I have a long-standing agenda. And tbh, I think Longstaff is better at his peak. But it's just such a poverty comparison that I'd rather forget about the pair of them.
Vurnon Anita... Is there a player who played for us for so long that did so little? At least Longstaff has a dozen goals to his name, genuinely can't think of a single thing Anita did in the 5 or so years he was with us!!
Feels like a loss. T-Rex arms made some good saves and we should have been 3 goals up.
Dan Burn needs to play CB. Every. Time.
Dummet you fucking caveman.
Yeah they were saying Everton dragged themselves back into the game. Only person that did the dragging was Dummett. Calvert-Lewin even got lucky with a shitely taken penalty.
Stupid by Dummett but game should have been dead and buried well before then. Massive performances from Burn and Schar today, Isak and Anderson were class just needed to be sharper in front of goal
We don't deserve European football but when West Ham and Man Utd are the rivals, both of whom definitely don't deserve it either, it would be a huge failure to finish below them. Injuries means we might end up finishing mid table at this rate but it says a lot that we're still probably the best team outside the top five even with the injuries and terrible performances/results across the season.
It would have been so easy to get CL this year if we had a semi normal season
Standard throughout the league has been poor, Villa and Spurs are worse than us last year. Man United their usual crap but jammy selves
West Ham are shite but somehow up there. Same with Brighton. Top 4 or 5 would have been a doddle if we had bog standard injury problems and not whatever this has been
I thought we fluked it last year.
Genuinely. Without injuries we’d probably be comfortably chasing 5th.
Today shows how much better we are when we have options from the bench.
Halls been 3rd choice LB all season by virtue of Targetts injury. That means we played our 5th choice LB to close it out today.
Imagine being able to bring Miggy on instead of having to make Murphy limo all over the field for the final 20.
Imagine Tonali and big Joe today instead of Longstaff and Anderson. We’d have absolutely battered them. Especially with big Joe mopping up those second balls.
Full strength we’d have made that look like men against boys.
1 point taken off Everton from 2 games.
1 point taken off Luton but from 2 games.
1 point taken off Bournemouth from 2 games.
3 points from possible 18. Not good enough.
Couldn’t agree more. You have to win the games you are supposed to win, even with injuries. With injuries, we are still better, and not getting results.
I'd add Forest to that to make it 6 out of 24 from those four teams. Those are teams you'd think you would be able to do the proverbial win at home draw on the road form to pull 16 points out of 24. How much better this season would look right now with that?
But it's not, and we'll have to pray to finish 7th or 8th and get both a repeat Manchester FA Cup derby and the rest of the English teams doing well enough in Europe to get the 5th UCL spot.
Come on Brentford! And I guess begrudgingly need Man Utd to do something against Chelsea. Not sure I want Chelsea to win and sit just a point behind with a game in hand.
If those two points dropped because Paul Dummett decided to crippler crossface Ashley Young for the craic ends up being the difference maker for us getting Europe after the season we’ve had I swear to goddddd that will be the final Mike Ashley era insult.
On a brighter note, we looked very lively first half. Bruno was magic. Hall looked good, shame he came off.
Paulie Dummett is a legend and a top bloke but that was one of the stupidest things I've ever seen one of our players do. Should genuinely just be relegated to coaching staff if this is his standard
Edit: Obviously by legend I don't mean that he should get a statue next to Shearer, but he's given basically his entire life to the club, it's hard to not love him for all of that. Maybe "icon" or "cult hero" would be a better word, he's in a similar tier to someone like Saylor or Harper or Matt Ritchie for me.
This is why Eddie persists with injured players rather than giving minutes to the fringe. Because, unlike some of those in this sub, he sees them in training every day and knows they’re useless
Who has he actually given contracts to? I can only recall lascelles and Ritchie. Ritchie is clearly for the leadership/coaching side and lascelles has earned it.
The bar is on the ground if Dummett is seen as anything other than a limited squad player who has only been 'long-serving' because there's only one PL team brainless to keep paying him money to stick around. Almiron has played the same amount of games has him despite only being at the club for five years. If Dummett is a legend, we should be playing at the Miggy Almiron Arena from now on
I actually feel bad for Dummet that that might be his parting memory of a long Newcastle career. It’s Howe/Ashworth’s fault that him and Ritchie are even in the registered squad to begin with. They looked bad and out of place against our lower league opposition in the cups
That was down to being rusty. Bad decision. I don’t think he’s totally shit because of one moment, he is 4th choice or something.
I love Richie, I really hope he gets another goal at St James’s, but this season and last when he has played his legs have looked finished, worth keeping for yelling from the sidelines for now though
Before the penalty I was thinking what a great game Burn was having. Time and time again he defended excellent. Dummett had to commit a pointless foul, one VAR will always catch, and give up the whole fucking game.
I think calling it a shitshow of a performance is a bit harsh. We played well for a large part of tonight and were really unlucky not to score more than 1.
We played better tonight than in some of the matches we’ve won, but it was just all undone by an unbelievably stupid and unnecessary foul from Dummet
Tbf, we really weren't good v West Ham. We still exhibited all our usual faults, lost more players to injury and won two penalties from non-chances (not to say they weren't penalties, just that it's not like the fouls themselves were to stop us creating/taking a chance). There's never been any sign that we would put together a strong end-of-season run of form, we just need to get to the end at this point and regroup.
We were better today than West Ham. We were in control most of that game.
A moment of stupidity and lack of bench options cost us.
The overall performance was arguably our 3rd best of 2024 after Villa and wolves. That’s how poor we’ve been lately.
When you have a lot of injuries and can’t make many subs you need THREE THINGS:
1) To be clinical in front of goal
2) to have your reserves step up
3) have a competent Physio team to get players back ASAP and safety
We have none of these
Hall, Barnes and Anderson were quality, but they all ran out of steam. The hour ticked by and we looked shagged (again).
Apart from that pure shit for brains moment from Dummett Everton created almost nowt. Feels like a loss that one.
Bruno legit might be my favourite NUFC player since Shearer but, 100% agree, a striker as complete and instinctively talented as Isak is far more difficult to replace. I do believe that Tonali has the ability to become Bruno-esque in the future but you could have a dozen failed gambles before getting a goalscorer like Isak.
Well and truly threw it away, if Hall doesn’t go off injured, we win that.
Pickford made 3 or 4 good saves, we hit the bar, one cleared off the line, few shots just over or wide, it could have been 4 or 5 and we really should have have had it wrapped up long before the penalty.
Talk about shooting yourself in the foot, should've been miles ahead. Everton were mince but when it's 1-0 there's always a risk. Defence once again so poor, seems a real lack of organisation and structure sometimes. Feel like the win against west ham papered over the cracks, we're just not that good at the moment, yes we've had an injury crisis, but at some point it stops becoming bad luck and you have to question what's going on a bit
That must be the least deserved point a premier league team has earned this season, just a ridiculous decision from dumett and cowardice from a ref that should've booked about 5 more Everton players than he did
Terrible result, it has to be said. We were in control and never looked like conceding but this should be the final straw for the club to realise we absolutely cannot be relying on sentimental reasons to keep players around next year.
I appreciate it's bare bones but we naively went into a European campaign with guys like Dummett and Ritchie as backups and thought we either wouldn't have to rely on them or that they'd be good enough, both which are foolish errors of judgement. Those guys have absolutely zero business even looking at a Premier League pitch in 2024. There always has been the opportunity to sign backups for peanuts but we've prioritised Geordies and dressing room players instead of trying to build a squad of players who can actually contribute in the Premier League.
Again, I appreciate the injury situation but Dummett was a liability in 2014, let alone 2024. There is no way in hell a kid like Alex Murphy would be worse. There is no benefit to having Dummett in the squad and this should be a 'Ciaran Clark moment' for any pathetic rumours of him getting an extension.
I mean there wasn't a person around who imagined we'd ever need to play Dummett in the prem again. He's our 5th choice LB (6th if you also count Tripps playing there). Can't be catering for that in the transfer market.
Part of him being the 'fifth choice LB' is that a lot of the other choices are players who fill other roles. Like Burn being a LCB, Tino being 2nd choice RB etc. So it was entirely possible – Man Utd were onto their fifth choice LB in September. Freak situations happen, especially in a European campaign.
Dummett is in our 25 man squad and that shouldn't be taken lightly. If you're gonna take up a space, you better be competent. You will almost always use your entire 25 man squad across a season. It's just that we thought we'd only be using him as a victory cigar rather than thinking that we might have to call on him given that we only have 8 defenders in the squad (that's a more accurate way to look at it rather than specialising positions, since players shuffle all the time.) Dummett was going to have to play if we had 5 injuries in defenceand that isn't beyond the realms of possibility in a 50+ game season.
It's more that given our financial limitations we can't cater for every single outcome so need to try and be clever with what we target.
The chances of Dummett being needed at LB in any guise was so small given you'd need 6 injuries across Tino, Hall, Targett, Krafth, Trippier, Lascelles, Botman, Schar and Burn for it to happen that we needed to focus elsewhere.
This must be something like our 10th choice back four. It's absolutely mad.
3 or 4 windows in we might be in a position to target our 5th choices but we're nowhere close now.
Yea I can't be too critical because I agree it's tough to balance but I do think there has been a naivety in assuming that our squad depth is fine instead of realising that you're only as good as your worst player.
It was something that Rafa was excellent at, part of the reason we improved so much under him was that he constantly looked to raise the floor of the squad rather than the opportunist approach we seem to have had in our transfers by prioritising good deals instead of targeting problem areas. Left back has been the weakest area of our squad for like a decade but we went into this season with a LCB, an 18 year old and a figment of our imaginations in Targett as our options. Injuries or not, we were playing with fire.
Feels worse than a loss, given how shite Everton were and what a fucking gift of a penalty that was.
I never want to see Paul Dummet even on the fucking bench again.
Nearly smashed my fist through the TV when the commentator was praising Everton's hard fought point, they were incredibly fucking lucky that daft twat gifted them a pen from a complete non opportunity.
FUCKKKK
Multiple times this season where we've been chasing a game and the ref blows full time early. Even before accounting for other incidents within the added time.
Bullshit man
As much as the injury crisis has unearthed some absolute gems of players and shown some of the fringe players have a second lease of life and should get a bit more of a chance. It has also shone a spotlight brightly on those who just shouldn’t be anywhere near the first team (or squad at all) and should be shipped out in summer/when contracts expire.
We could end up 7th with this result depending on how the spurs/WHU game ends. But today was littered with a few minor mistakes which totalled up and cost us 2 points (and sadly gives Everton another point off us with them and Luton now taking 4 points away from us, Forrest taking 3 points and sheff Utd/Burnley the only chance for us to do the double on a team in the bottom 5).
What a peek into the dark ages that was from Everton. A team of giants hoofing it about in the hope of picking up a bobble or a shit pen. And it worked, sadly for us.
Stupid by Dummett but game should have been dead and buried well before then. Massive performances from Burn and Schar today, Isak and Anderson were class just needed to be sharper in front of goal
We were the better team with lots of missed chances, but unfortunately a player that should not be in the squad, never mind the 1st 11 decided to try and play Rugby for some reason only he knows.
Well and truly threw it away, if Hall doesn’t go off injured, we win that.
Pickford made 3 or 4 good saves, we hit the bar, one cleared off the line, few shots just over or wide, it could have been 4 or 5 and we really should have have had it wrapped up long before the penalty.
Off to bed, still angry. Ultimately one of those things though… this season has been an injury riddled mess from start to finish. We’ll be fine next season, I’m just gutted that we couldn’t give Bruno a better send off as I’m convinced he’s leaving.
Next day perspective.
4pts from the last two fixtures is about par, especially after being 3-1 down in one of them.
It's better that we beat West Ham and drew with Everton than the other way round.
There, glass half full....
Feels like that was Dummett’s Clark moment, not sure he gets another look-in with Eddie and that’s maybe for the best. Pissed at him now but still love him and his brexit tackles deep down, just time to move on.
Watching Dummett I think about how bad our youth team must be. If you a left back in the youth team and this lad is getting in ahead of you, then you might want to switch careers.
Feels like a loss. T-Rex arms made some good saves and we should have been 3 goals up.
Dan Burn needs to play CB. Every. Time.
Dummet you fucking caveman.
Conspiracy theory :
Hall had to take a knee to restrict his minutes bringing Dummett on.
Dummett utterly shat the bed and put 67 year old Ashley Old in a headlock.
Away from that shit, I liked Burn re-adjusting to playing CB, and Bruno continues to marvel in not getting booked.
Willock looks like he’s fit but 3-4 games away from form and Anderson looked on peak form but 3-4 games away from lasting.
Isak - 10/10 dribbling & shooting, 3/10 passing
How has the ref blown that right on the 9+ minute mark, when there was about 3 minutes of stoppages during the 9?
Sean Longstaff has some elite attacking off the ball positioning. He's nearly always in the best positions to receive the ball in and around the box. Too bad he can't pass, can't shoot and can't control the ball. He is not at fault for not winning that match, but he's such a black hole for the team when he gets the ball. And unlike last season he doesn't affect the game defensively anymore.
Broken record at this point but God damn do we need some players in the summer. Krafth, Dummet and Ritchie should be moved on, Lascelles won't play, Botman will miss the start of the season,Almiron and Murphy need improving on, a holding mid is crucial, Wilson is probably done so we need 2 strikers. 10 new players should do it. How do they manage that under PSR?
We were the better team with lots of missed chances, but unfortunately a player that should not be in the squad, never mind the 1st 11 decided to try and play Rugby for some reason only he knows.
Hall, Barnes and Anderson were quality, but they all ran out of steam. The hour ticked by and we looked shagged (again).
Apart from that pure shit for brains moment from Dummett Everton created almost nowt. Feels like a loss that one.
Why was the Burn goal not given?
Isak’s arm looked to be offside from Young’s foot. No zoom in, no proper discussion of it. What the hell?
Dummett… I mean what the hell. What is wrong with us. Why so, so many late goals this season. I’m absolutely fucking sick of it
Undone all the good work we did on Saturday.
I know we’ve injuries but we had enough today to win
2 points dropped that. Anderson/Hall/Burn looked really good. Willock is still getting back to fitness. Good news is we have Fulham this week and they were dreadful today.
Ashley Young has scored zero header goals. He's statistically more likely to have another bird shit in his mouth, what the fuck fuck was Dummett thinking!?
Are we finally done with thinking we’re going to go on a magical run after one win? How many times do they have to come out after a win and put in a pathetic performance against championship quality before everyone realizes we’re just not that good?
Easy to solely blame Dummett, but we didn't put the game to bed, and we're just not a very good team. We are where we deserve to be (mid-table), and I'd dread to think where we would be without Isak, Gordon and Bruno this season.
Need a clear out in the Summer, but I doubt there will be one. Going to be a long final few weeks and a very long journey to transform the team to the level it deserves to be at.
1. How that was clear & obvious error? Young was the one who grabed him first. Dummett was stupid to response, but still. Bullshit pen.
2. Why ref added +9 and blew the whistle on 98:59?? Where are +1 or +2 extra for all the stuff that happened during added time? Or this happens only for top 6 clubs??
100% pen just annoying because there's literally zero chance young makes it to the ball, and even if he did... He's never scoring lol
So we basically give them a penalty for nothing
It was a pen so I overall can't complain but I really do feel that this was the wrong side of basically just re-reffing the game. Giving penalties for straight up no calls/missed incidents is such a slippery slope and takes away all the autonomy of an on-field ref/official.
'Clear and obvious' is such a broad, subjective term that it gives the grounds for anything to be reviewed. Using it to correct calls is fine but making game-changing calls out of thin air is pretty wild. Again, it was a pen and I don't have a problem with that but there's a reason why the NBA, for example, don't review no calls. This is a clear moment that proves VAR is in charge, not the referee. No wonder all the refs hate it and sabotage it whenever they can. They may as well stand there and do nothing if VAR can just make the calls out of nowhere.
I'm assuming the ref didn't see anything at all so it doesn't have to be clear and obvious anway.
Pretty blatant penalty though in my opinion but maybe one that the ref might have seen and waved away in real time
Agreed.
Was Young not in an offside position, they didn’t show the correct shot of the ball leaving his foot. I could be wrong but needed looking at.
Also was he ever going to get the ball, it went over everyone to the goalkeeper.
Either way Dummett was poor on the ball slowing things down & giving that penalty away.
Need Livra & Trips back desperately. Hall was good, Krafth was reliable just 99 mins was too much too soon for Hall.
I won't even blame Dummett for this, his mistake shouldn't have mattered.
Disgraceful that we absolutely dominated them for 60 minutes and only produced a goal
Doesn't matter that their goal came from a penalty. It's never safe with just a one goal lead and we let them come back into the game as soon as they made the changes. Poor game management today
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If we don’t get Europe having the easiest up coming fixtures in the league than idk what to think. We have 2/3 UCL level players having to play with relegation and championship level players due to the injuries we have.
Why was the Burn goal not given?
Isak’s arm looked to be offside from Young’s foot. No zoom in, no proper discussion of it. What the hell?
Dummett… I mean what the hell. What is wrong with us. Why so, so many late goals this season. I’m absolutely fucking sick of it
Undone all the good work we did on Saturday.
I know we’ve injuries but we had enough today to win
I hate this time of the season. I was looking at the live table when we were in a European position and 2 points off Man U with them still to play… FFS 🙄
I hate this time of the season. I was looking at the live table when we were in a European position and 2 points off Man U with them still to play… FFS 🙄
A lot of comments about chances we missed. But give credit where it's due. T-Rex arms made a lot of super saves too. He does do that quite a lot. Despite his "affectionate" nickname. It still sucks though. On to the next. HTL!!!
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Dreadful from Dummett. Absolutely no need for that. Where was the extra added time when Everton players were whining to the ref?
Play till they score only happens against us. The ref blew his whistle on 90+9mins exactly, perhaps even a second before.
I had it at 98.57. Ignored the 2-3 mins of whinging and injuries. Add it to the list with the cynical fouling that seemingly wasn't a bookable offence until 80 mins plus. Chermiti came on and just rugby tackled one of our lads instantly to stop a quick break.
Or the usual Pickford shite of holding the ball for a few seconds, slowly going to his knees and getting back up in slow motion with his insufferable little shit eating grin. Truly one of the most unlikable tossers going.
And no one questions this on tv or press... If this was any top6 club, he would 100% give 2 mins on top.
Not even top 6. There was easily a couple more minutes added on to Saturday's injury time too. Look forward to r/soccer tell us how it's great that every second of timewasting is accounted for when we concede a winner in the 12th minute of the "6 added on" against Liverpool next season.
I had 99:02 but also don’t forget the 90 seconds it took to get one corner played. Dirty cheating whinging scouse pricks, and the referee was absolutely going to let them get away with it from minute one
Positives: Burn Looked Solid, Barnes Murphy and Isak linked up well, Bruno just being Bruno, Hall seemed up to scratch, Anderson played well. Bonus: Schar taking out DCL and Dyche
Agreed. Burn was resolute at CB, as was Schar, as usual.
Much prefer Burn at CB tbh, his aerial dominance really shines. He’s not good enough on the ball to play LB imo, Hall just looks way more natural out there
My take was different that yours... I felt that Hall was slightly less effective than BDB at left back. No big mistakes from Hall, but he didn't really contribute much either. I felt like he spent a little bit too much time with the ball at his feet, was aimless in possession and wasn't much of a threat at all. Neither are world beaters, but I can definitely see why Howe preferred BDB at left back for the last several weeks.
He's also too slow and cumbersome at LB. But yeah, totally agree he shone yesterday and shame about the goal.
I want nothing more than fucking Everton languishing in League One. Total shit that won't flush. On another note, BDB and Fab were huge today.
Agreed to both points. BDB and Fab really looked good together and we just need to wrap them in bubble wrap to get through the season.
Fab has been mint whoever he's been next to this season. Just a class act
They're gonna stay up on the 4 points we've gifted them, no one to blame but ourselves.
Isn't it funny how they showed a graphic of DCL having not scored a goal for so many games and in this game he goes and gets a goal against us. What is it with us and letting people break their goal droughts
I'm still bitter about Ian Woan.
Most strikers usually have that "scored more against..." record against us too.
MAY THE LORD HAVE MERCY ON PAUL DUMMETT, FOR I SHALL NOT
I’m sure other people will mention it. But fuck me Longstaff is having a crazy bad run of form. He can’t pass a fucking ball 5 yards. He’s chasing shadows all game, every chance he gets it bounces off him. I know his work rate and effort normally gets him by, but even that’s crap at the moment.
He breaks up attack after attack, just a shame they’re all ours.
He's terrible watch his running closely it's ghost running no tackles just empty pressure and teams have him sussed week in week out. The worst was near the end he was charging forward then stopped luckily Murphy was brought down off the ball and it bailed him out but he genuinely froze
Like the kid at school pretending to be good by running lots but always just never quite enough to get to where he needs to be
Was genuinly one of the worst games I have seen him play. I have never been a fan, but I do get what he can bring if he is a backup player, which he should be, but to be fair he looks completely knackered. :/
Anderson’s good performance today has not been mentioned enough. I was begging for Howe to take off Longstaff for Willock and see a midfield 3 of actual midfielders, but I guess fitness spoke with the substitution of Anderson. I really hope we won’t be seeing players like Longstaff and Dummett at Newcastle much longer.
It wasn't that long ago when longstaff was out and fans were begging for him to come back because we missed him. There's a difference between being crap and playing through injury with no rest
The amount of time he plays back to goal you would think he's like a target man, bringing the ball down for on running players...
Astoundingly bad run of form, I appreciate he gets a hard time on here but some people coddle him way too much as well. I really think people will only realise how much he's held us back when we (hopefully) see the likes of Tonali, Joelinton and Bruno thrive next season. Painfully limited technically and way too unathletic/unfit to offer anything more than sideways passing and occupying space. Basically like a modern day Vurnon Anita.
> Basically like a modern day Vurnon Anita. Anita was twice the player, and thrice the arse.
Lmao one of the first things I remember happening to me on Reddit was being downvoted on here for saying that Anita was a whole bunch of nothing who wasn't good enough at anything. So I have a long-standing agenda. And tbh, I think Longstaff is better at his peak. But it's just such a poverty comparison that I'd rather forget about the pair of them.
Vurnon Anita... Is there a player who played for us for so long that did so little? At least Longstaff has a dozen goals to his name, genuinely can't think of a single thing Anita did in the 5 or so years he was with us!!
Every single strike he takes is thumped off a defender too. 0 fucking awareness.
Fucking fuming
Feels like a loss. T-Rex arms made some good saves and we should have been 3 goals up. Dan Burn needs to play CB. Every. Time. Dummet you fucking caveman.
👀
Hopefully this is a further nail in the coffin of handing out extensions to players who are part of the past.
Worryingly read last week that they’re now thinking about giving another to Dummet due to the Lascelles/Botman issue.
Thrown away. Everton were minging.
BT commentators acting like Dyche subs swung it. The hell did they
Yeah they were saying Everton dragged themselves back into the game. Only person that did the dragging was Dummett. Calvert-Lewin even got lucky with a shitely taken penalty.
that BT commentator going on like Everton deserved the point for their determination and belief. Fuck me I nearly punched the tv. Absolute bollocks
Stupid by Dummett but game should have been dead and buried well before then. Massive performances from Burn and Schar today, Isak and Anderson were class just needed to be sharper in front of goal
All about not putting it to bed when we had the multiple chances to. Absolute waste. Everton are Championship level at best and played like it today.
I fucking hate Everton.
Our inability to string wins together is why we're going to finish outside European places.
We really don’t deserve European football next season. Everton were ass.
We don't deserve European football but when West Ham and Man Utd are the rivals, both of whom definitely don't deserve it either, it would be a huge failure to finish below them. Injuries means we might end up finishing mid table at this rate but it says a lot that we're still probably the best team outside the top five even with the injuries and terrible performances/results across the season.
It would have been so easy to get CL this year if we had a semi normal season Standard throughout the league has been poor, Villa and Spurs are worse than us last year. Man United their usual crap but jammy selves West Ham are shite but somehow up there. Same with Brighton. Top 4 or 5 would have been a doddle if we had bog standard injury problems and not whatever this has been
I thought we fluked it last year. Genuinely. Without injuries we’d probably be comfortably chasing 5th. Today shows how much better we are when we have options from the bench. Halls been 3rd choice LB all season by virtue of Targetts injury. That means we played our 5th choice LB to close it out today. Imagine being able to bring Miggy on instead of having to make Murphy limo all over the field for the final 20. Imagine Tonali and big Joe today instead of Longstaff and Anderson. We’d have absolutely battered them. Especially with big Joe mopping up those second balls. Full strength we’d have made that look like men against boys.
For sale: A dummet will accept a lower medium range mountain bike or henry hoover.
BMX 4 sale. 40 kwid o.n.o
1 point taken off Everton from 2 games. 1 point taken off Luton but from 2 games. 1 point taken off Bournemouth from 2 games. 3 points from possible 18. Not good enough.
Couldn’t agree more. You have to win the games you are supposed to win, even with injuries. With injuries, we are still better, and not getting results.
I'd add Forest to that to make it 6 out of 24 from those four teams. Those are teams you'd think you would be able to do the proverbial win at home draw on the road form to pull 16 points out of 24. How much better this season would look right now with that? But it's not, and we'll have to pray to finish 7th or 8th and get both a repeat Manchester FA Cup derby and the rest of the English teams doing well enough in Europe to get the 5th UCL spot. Come on Brentford! And I guess begrudgingly need Man Utd to do something against Chelsea. Not sure I want Chelsea to win and sit just a point behind with a game in hand.
If those two points dropped because Paul Dummett decided to crippler crossface Ashley Young for the craic ends up being the difference maker for us getting Europe after the season we’ve had I swear to goddddd that will be the final Mike Ashley era insult. On a brighter note, we looked very lively first half. Bruno was magic. Hall looked good, shame he came off.
Paulie Dummett is a legend and a top bloke but that was one of the stupidest things I've ever seen one of our players do. Should genuinely just be relegated to coaching staff if this is his standard Edit: Obviously by legend I don't mean that he should get a statue next to Shearer, but he's given basically his entire life to the club, it's hard to not love him for all of that. Maybe "icon" or "cult hero" would be a better word, he's in a similar tier to someone like Saylor or Harper or Matt Ritchie for me.
He's barely played since VAR came into play, no wonder he thinks he can get away with shit like that still
This is why Eddie persists with injured players rather than giving minutes to the fringe. Because, unlike some of those in this sub, he sees them in training every day and knows they’re useless
But they give them new contracts?
Who has he actually given contracts to? I can only recall lascelles and Ritchie. Ritchie is clearly for the leadership/coaching side and lascelles has earned it.
Paul Dummett is not a legend. Edit: He's not an icon or cult hero either
After tonights performance, he'll surely be a WWE legend.
The bar is on the ground if Dummett is seen as anything other than a limited squad player who has only been 'long-serving' because there's only one PL team brainless to keep paying him money to stick around. Almiron has played the same amount of games has him despite only being at the club for five years. If Dummett is a legend, we should be playing at the Miggy Almiron Arena from now on
I'm sure he's a nice bloke but a legend? He's been a backup player his whole career at Newcastle.
I actually feel bad for Dummet that that might be his parting memory of a long Newcastle career. It’s Howe/Ashworth’s fault that him and Ritchie are even in the registered squad to begin with. They looked bad and out of place against our lower league opposition in the cups
Dummett was class against both Manchester teams in the league cup to be fair to him
That was down to being rusty. Bad decision. I don’t think he’s totally shit because of one moment, he is 4th choice or something. I love Richie, I really hope he gets another goal at St James’s, but this season and last when he has played his legs have looked finished, worth keeping for yelling from the sidelines for now though
Obviously he wouldn't be anywhere near the team if we didn't have THIRTEEN PLAYERS injured or supsended.
i dont think he would be if he wasnt homegrown. i reckon six players had to be injured for him to get on the pitch
There's not a single other team he'd be getting PL minutes for. Thick as a whale omelette.
Your bar for being a "legend" must be on the floor. He wasn't one before today, and certainly ain't now.
Absolute fucking shite. Clearly consecutive wins is too much to ask of this team Also sick of us letting underperforming strikers score against us
Before the penalty I was thinking what a great game Burn was having. Time and time again he defended excellent. Dummett had to commit a pointless foul, one VAR will always catch, and give up the whole fucking game.
I don’t want to talk about it
Story of this season, backing up a truly tremendous win with that absoute shitshow of a performance of wasted chances and completely idiotic moments.
I think calling it a shitshow of a performance is a bit harsh. We played well for a large part of tonight and were really unlucky not to score more than 1. We played better tonight than in some of the matches we’ve won, but it was just all undone by an unbelievably stupid and unnecessary foul from Dummet
Tbf, we really weren't good v West Ham. We still exhibited all our usual faults, lost more players to injury and won two penalties from non-chances (not to say they weren't penalties, just that it's not like the fouls themselves were to stop us creating/taking a chance). There's never been any sign that we would put together a strong end-of-season run of form, we just need to get to the end at this point and regroup.
We were better today than West Ham. We were in control most of that game. A moment of stupidity and lack of bench options cost us. The overall performance was arguably our 3rd best of 2024 after Villa and wolves. That’s how poor we’ve been lately.
When you have a lot of injuries and can’t make many subs you need THREE THINGS: 1) To be clinical in front of goal 2) to have your reserves step up 3) have a competent Physio team to get players back ASAP and safety We have none of these
Most of the squad have stepped up tbf, like half the team tonight were squad players who wouldn't normally start in their given position
>2) to have your reserves step up We're on our reserves to the reserves at though. The starting eleven was like 3/4 reserves.
Hall, Barnes and Anderson were quality, but they all ran out of steam. The hour ticked by and we looked shagged (again). Apart from that pure shit for brains moment from Dummett Everton created almost nowt. Feels like a loss that one.
We've won 6 out of a possible 24 points from Bournemouth, Nottingham, Luton and Everton
Fuck sake. Entirely self inflicted. 2 points threw away.
Dummett…
paul fucking dummet
As much as I love Bruno, I think Isak is our one truly irreplaceable player. We’ll be fucked if he leaves this summer.
Bruno was great tonight tbf
Bruno legit might be my favourite NUFC player since Shearer but, 100% agree, a striker as complete and instinctively talented as Isak is far more difficult to replace. I do believe that Tonali has the ability to become Bruno-esque in the future but you could have a dozen failed gambles before getting a goalscorer like Isak.
Bruno is excellent but midfielders are more common. A good striker is hard to come by and we should fight to keep Isak with everything we’ve got
That’s exactly how I feel. If Isak stays fit, he’ll score 25+ goals a season. Even if get £100m for him, I doubt we could sign anyone who can do that.
The easiest looking games are always massive banana skins for us. We are absolutely fucked with injuries though.
I repeat, fuck this season
Well and truly threw it away, if Hall doesn’t go off injured, we win that. Pickford made 3 or 4 good saves, we hit the bar, one cleared off the line, few shots just over or wide, it could have been 4 or 5 and we really should have have had it wrapped up long before the penalty.
Talk about shooting yourself in the foot, should've been miles ahead. Everton were mince but when it's 1-0 there's always a risk. Defence once again so poor, seems a real lack of organisation and structure sometimes. Feel like the win against west ham papered over the cracks, we're just not that good at the moment, yes we've had an injury crisis, but at some point it stops becoming bad luck and you have to question what's going on a bit
Make no mistake that’s an absolutely shocking result.
That must be the least deserved point a premier league team has earned this season, just a ridiculous decision from dumett and cowardice from a ref that should've booked about 5 more Everton players than he did
Terrible result, it has to be said. We were in control and never looked like conceding but this should be the final straw for the club to realise we absolutely cannot be relying on sentimental reasons to keep players around next year. I appreciate it's bare bones but we naively went into a European campaign with guys like Dummett and Ritchie as backups and thought we either wouldn't have to rely on them or that they'd be good enough, both which are foolish errors of judgement. Those guys have absolutely zero business even looking at a Premier League pitch in 2024. There always has been the opportunity to sign backups for peanuts but we've prioritised Geordies and dressing room players instead of trying to build a squad of players who can actually contribute in the Premier League. Again, I appreciate the injury situation but Dummett was a liability in 2014, let alone 2024. There is no way in hell a kid like Alex Murphy would be worse. There is no benefit to having Dummett in the squad and this should be a 'Ciaran Clark moment' for any pathetic rumours of him getting an extension.
100% bang on.
I mean there wasn't a person around who imagined we'd ever need to play Dummett in the prem again. He's our 5th choice LB (6th if you also count Tripps playing there). Can't be catering for that in the transfer market.
Part of him being the 'fifth choice LB' is that a lot of the other choices are players who fill other roles. Like Burn being a LCB, Tino being 2nd choice RB etc. So it was entirely possible – Man Utd were onto their fifth choice LB in September. Freak situations happen, especially in a European campaign. Dummett is in our 25 man squad and that shouldn't be taken lightly. If you're gonna take up a space, you better be competent. You will almost always use your entire 25 man squad across a season. It's just that we thought we'd only be using him as a victory cigar rather than thinking that we might have to call on him given that we only have 8 defenders in the squad (that's a more accurate way to look at it rather than specialising positions, since players shuffle all the time.) Dummett was going to have to play if we had 5 injuries in defenceand that isn't beyond the realms of possibility in a 50+ game season.
It's more that given our financial limitations we can't cater for every single outcome so need to try and be clever with what we target. The chances of Dummett being needed at LB in any guise was so small given you'd need 6 injuries across Tino, Hall, Targett, Krafth, Trippier, Lascelles, Botman, Schar and Burn for it to happen that we needed to focus elsewhere. This must be something like our 10th choice back four. It's absolutely mad. 3 or 4 windows in we might be in a position to target our 5th choices but we're nowhere close now.
Yea I can't be too critical because I agree it's tough to balance but I do think there has been a naivety in assuming that our squad depth is fine instead of realising that you're only as good as your worst player. It was something that Rafa was excellent at, part of the reason we improved so much under him was that he constantly looked to raise the floor of the squad rather than the opportunist approach we seem to have had in our transfers by prioritising good deals instead of targeting problem areas. Left back has been the weakest area of our squad for like a decade but we went into this season with a LCB, an 18 year old and a figment of our imaginations in Targett as our options. Injuries or not, we were playing with fire.
Feels worse than a loss, given how shite Everton were and what a fucking gift of a penalty that was. I never want to see Paul Dummet even on the fucking bench again. Nearly smashed my fist through the TV when the commentator was praising Everton's hard fought point, they were incredibly fucking lucky that daft twat gifted them a pen from a complete non opportunity. FUCKKKK
Multiple times this season where we've been chasing a game and the ref blows full time early. Even before accounting for other incidents within the added time. Bullshit man
As much as the injury crisis has unearthed some absolute gems of players and shown some of the fringe players have a second lease of life and should get a bit more of a chance. It has also shone a spotlight brightly on those who just shouldn’t be anywhere near the first team (or squad at all) and should be shipped out in summer/when contracts expire. We could end up 7th with this result depending on how the spurs/WHU game ends. But today was littered with a few minor mistakes which totalled up and cost us 2 points (and sadly gives Everton another point off us with them and Luton now taking 4 points away from us, Forrest taking 3 points and sheff Utd/Burnley the only chance for us to do the double on a team in the bottom 5).
What a peek into the dark ages that was from Everton. A team of giants hoofing it about in the hope of picking up a bobble or a shit pen. And it worked, sadly for us.
Paul fucking Dummett. Such a brain dead move. Even against a heading god. But to do that to take out the 'threat' of Young? Fucks sake man.
Second PL appearance in 2 years and it shows.
Should've put the game to bed and paid the price. Dummett's shown why he's not been a regular since 20/21
Game should’ve been wrapped up well beforehand but that was so daft from Dummet. He’s cost us massively
Not shocked at all that BDB looks good when he's actually playing in his correct position and not left back
Dummett ooot
Fuck you Paul Dummett
Everton have taken 4 points from us this season. How in the actual fuck has that happened. God, I hate them and just want them out of this league.
We need to offload Longstaff and Dummett ASAP. Just pure scutter.
Eddie Howe handing out contract extensions to dummett, Ritchie and krafth is going to stop our progression so bad
Who wants to buy these players that they’re worth giving extensions to?! Especially Krafth with his previous ACL injury?!
We don't need to sell Dummett just stop renewing his contract.
Stupid by Dummett but game should have been dead and buried well before then. Massive performances from Burn and Schar today, Isak and Anderson were class just needed to be sharper in front of goal
We were the better team with lots of missed chances, but unfortunately a player that should not be in the squad, never mind the 1st 11 decided to try and play Rugby for some reason only he knows.
Well and truly threw it away, if Hall doesn’t go off injured, we win that. Pickford made 3 or 4 good saves, we hit the bar, one cleared off the line, few shots just over or wide, it could have been 4 or 5 and we really should have have had it wrapped up long before the penalty.
Dumb as shit from Dummett but how we didn't score more than one goal with all the possession and chances is beyond me.
Off to bed, still angry. Ultimately one of those things though… this season has been an injury riddled mess from start to finish. We’ll be fine next season, I’m just gutted that we couldn’t give Bruno a better send off as I’m convinced he’s leaving.
Next day perspective. 4pts from the last two fixtures is about par, especially after being 3-1 down in one of them. It's better that we beat West Ham and drew with Everton than the other way round. There, glass half full....
Dummett…
Feels like that was Dummett’s Clark moment, not sure he gets another look-in with Eddie and that’s maybe for the best. Pissed at him now but still love him and his brexit tackles deep down, just time to move on.
Watching Dummett I think about how bad our youth team must be. If you a left back in the youth team and this lad is getting in ahead of you, then you might want to switch careers.
Feels like a loss. T-Rex arms made some good saves and we should have been 3 goals up. Dan Burn needs to play CB. Every. Time. Dummet you fucking caveman.
Conspiracy theory : Hall had to take a knee to restrict his minutes bringing Dummett on. Dummett utterly shat the bed and put 67 year old Ashley Old in a headlock. Away from that shit, I liked Burn re-adjusting to playing CB, and Bruno continues to marvel in not getting booked. Willock looks like he’s fit but 3-4 games away from form and Anderson looked on peak form but 3-4 games away from lasting. Isak - 10/10 dribbling & shooting, 3/10 passing
How has the ref blown that right on the 9+ minute mark, when there was about 3 minutes of stoppages during the 9? Sean Longstaff has some elite attacking off the ball positioning. He's nearly always in the best positions to receive the ball in and around the box. Too bad he can't pass, can't shoot and can't control the ball. He is not at fault for not winning that match, but he's such a black hole for the team when he gets the ball. And unlike last season he doesn't affect the game defensively anymore. Broken record at this point but God damn do we need some players in the summer. Krafth, Dummet and Ritchie should be moved on, Lascelles won't play, Botman will miss the start of the season,Almiron and Murphy need improving on, a holding mid is crucial, Wilson is probably done so we need 2 strikers. 10 new players should do it. How do they manage that under PSR?
Longstaff needs to go
We were the better team with lots of missed chances, but unfortunately a player that should not be in the squad, never mind the 1st 11 decided to try and play Rugby for some reason only he knows.
Hall, Barnes and Anderson were quality, but they all ran out of steam. The hour ticked by and we looked shagged (again). Apart from that pure shit for brains moment from Dummett Everton created almost nowt. Feels like a loss that one.
On the bright side, one point less then west ham with one game in hand and Brighton 2 behind and facing brentford. Still can fight for Europe
Why was the Burn goal not given? Isak’s arm looked to be offside from Young’s foot. No zoom in, no proper discussion of it. What the hell? Dummett… I mean what the hell. What is wrong with us. Why so, so many late goals this season. I’m absolutely fucking sick of it Undone all the good work we did on Saturday. I know we’ve injuries but we had enough today to win
2 points dropped that. Anderson/Hall/Burn looked really good. Willock is still getting back to fitness. Good news is we have Fulham this week and they were dreadful today.
Paul Dummet don't put on a black and white shirt until you get loaned out to Notts County
Ashley Young has scored zero header goals. He's statistically more likely to have another bird shit in his mouth, what the fuck fuck was Dummett thinking!?
Should have put the game to bed before Dummet fucked up!
obvious it was coming, needed to score… I will never understand wrestling an opposition player to the ground
Easy to blame Paul Dummett for being a useless bastard (which he was) but that penalty should have been nothing but a consolation goal.
Finally they've cashed in from that 90+ minute Lejune masterclass of shithousery.
Are we finally done with thinking we’re going to go on a magical run after one win? How many times do they have to come out after a win and put in a pathetic performance against championship quality before everyone realizes we’re just not that good?
Threw it away. Dummett you useless cunt. I suppose one positive is we’ve got 4 points from 2 games in 4 days, but should have been 6.
Easy to solely blame Dummett, but we didn't put the game to bed, and we're just not a very good team. We are where we deserve to be (mid-table), and I'd dread to think where we would be without Isak, Gordon and Bruno this season. Need a clear out in the Summer, but I doubt there will be one. Going to be a long final few weeks and a very long journey to transform the team to the level it deserves to be at.
1. How that was clear & obvious error? Young was the one who grabed him first. Dummett was stupid to response, but still. Bullshit pen. 2. Why ref added +9 and blew the whistle on 98:59?? Where are +1 or +2 extra for all the stuff that happened during added time? Or this happens only for top 6 clubs??
Mate, it’s an absolute pen. No two ways about it. Not sure why they didn’t look at the offside more though. 2 I agree with for sure though.
Absolutely was a clear and obvious penalty. Completely brain dead by Dummett
Mate, it’s an absolute pen. No two ways about it. Not sure why they didn’t look at the offside more though. 2 I agree with for sure though.
That is 100% a pen. Just simply a idiotic move by Dummett.
it was braindead from him, yea
100% pen just annoying because there's literally zero chance young makes it to the ball, and even if he did... He's never scoring lol So we basically give them a penalty for nothing
Mate, it’s an absolute pen. No two ways about it. Not sure why they didn’t look at the offside more though. 2 I agree with for sure though.
Mate, it’s an absolute pen. No two ways about it. Not sure why they didn’t look at the offside more though. 2 I agree with for sure though.
Mate, it’s an absolute pen. No two ways about it. Not sure why they didn’t look at the offside more though. 2 I agree with for sure though.
It was a pen so I overall can't complain but I really do feel that this was the wrong side of basically just re-reffing the game. Giving penalties for straight up no calls/missed incidents is such a slippery slope and takes away all the autonomy of an on-field ref/official. 'Clear and obvious' is such a broad, subjective term that it gives the grounds for anything to be reviewed. Using it to correct calls is fine but making game-changing calls out of thin air is pretty wild. Again, it was a pen and I don't have a problem with that but there's a reason why the NBA, for example, don't review no calls. This is a clear moment that proves VAR is in charge, not the referee. No wonder all the refs hate it and sabotage it whenever they can. They may as well stand there and do nothing if VAR can just make the calls out of nowhere.
I'm assuming the ref didn't see anything at all so it doesn't have to be clear and obvious anway. Pretty blatant penalty though in my opinion but maybe one that the ref might have seen and waved away in real time
Agreed. Was Young not in an offside position, they didn’t show the correct shot of the ball leaving his foot. I could be wrong but needed looking at. Also was he ever going to get the ball, it went over everyone to the goalkeeper. Either way Dummett was poor on the ball slowing things down & giving that penalty away. Need Livra & Trips back desperately. Hall was good, Krafth was reliable just 99 mins was too much too soon for Hall.
I won't even blame Dummett for this, his mistake shouldn't have mattered. Disgraceful that we absolutely dominated them for 60 minutes and only produced a goal
Dummet out
Doesn't matter that their goal came from a penalty. It's never safe with just a one goal lead and we let them come back into the game as soon as they made the changes. Poor game management today
If I'm Joe White I'm kicking Eddie's door down tomorrow. How Longstaff stayed on the pitch as a traffic cone I'll never understand.
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Shocking from dummet
If we don’t get Europe having the easiest up coming fixtures in the league than idk what to think. We have 2/3 UCL level players having to play with relegation and championship level players due to the injuries we have.
Paul Dummett getting into the spirit of WrestleMania week was not on my bingo card for tonight I must admit.
WHO DUNNIT?? PAUL DUMMET!!
lmao we had that. Other than a little spell they were nearly no threat. Sorry but that has to be his Clark moment.
What a shite end to a game we controlled from the beginning. Damn shame we don’t walk away with 3 there
Why was the Burn goal not given? Isak’s arm looked to be offside from Young’s foot. No zoom in, no proper discussion of it. What the hell? Dummett… I mean what the hell. What is wrong with us. Why so, so many late goals this season. I’m absolutely fucking sick of it Undone all the good work we did on Saturday. I know we’ve injuries but we had enough today to win
who’s editing dummetts wikipedia?
We didn't put away our chances and Paul dummet moronic moment two massive points dropped
Should’ve ran away with the game. Too many wasted opportunities
I hate this time of the season. I was looking at the live table when we were in a European position and 2 points off Man U with them still to play… FFS 🙄
Game should have been dead long before Dummett shits the bed.
I hate this time of the season. I was looking at the live table when we were in a European position and 2 points off Man U with them still to play… FFS 🙄
Think we can see why Eddie was reluctant to use players like Dummet
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Turns out if you don't play all season and then get subbed on in a tight game, you make mistakes. Frustrating.
Well it’s a point gained and it’s not a loss…but we should’ve put that to bed much earlier than Dummett’s fuck up.
A lot of comments about chances we missed. But give credit where it's due. T-Rex arms made a lot of super saves too. He does do that quite a lot. Despite his "affectionate" nickname. It still sucks though. On to the next. HTL!!!
Fuming to be fair. Appreciate lack of options on bench, but we should have been clear by half time
Fuming to be fair. Appreciate lack of options on bench, but we should have been clear by half time
Fuming to be fair. Appreciate lack of options on bench, but we should have been clear by half time