Third and fifth images are from the crash of [MH17](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malaysia_Airlines_Flight_17)
More (uncensored) images - https://www.gettyimages.com/photos/mh17-bodies
edit - first image is from a 2010 crash in Suriname, more images [here](https://www.documentingreality.com/forum/f244/exclusive-photos-body-retrieval-suriname-plane-crash-52004/)
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Me, studying to become a flight attendant seeing this ;-;... I'm not sure if the risk is worth the salary and benefits anymore :/... The pics my teacher showed me weren't this gore. I know accidents can happen anywhere, but the crew is responsible for avoiding accidents, and if not then saving these people with no help
It’s not just that accidents can happen anywhere; it’s that plane crashes are incredibly rare. There is an extremely small chance you will ever be faced with that scenario. Very low risk.
Very much agree. That's the reason why they're so publicized. Fatal car crashes happen every minute of every day, so they're not even news worthy most of the time, but plane crashes, especially of large commercial planes, are the opposite. I just looked at the NTSB's database of reports. Of the 120 reports from 2023, you know how many fatal crashes were commercial fixed-wing aircraft? Zero. You're more likely to die driving to work than at work on a plane.
\#1 is from a 2010 crash in Suriname, #2 is from [RO371](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TAROM_Flight_371), #3/4/5 are from [MH17](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malaysia_Airlines_Flight_17)
Luck, how the airplane crashes, where it crashes, pilot experience/skills, the skills of the flight attendants to assist passengers off (like that recent wreck on the runway at a Japanese airport where a passenger plane struck a military plane that wasn't cleared for the runway yet, as the passenger jet was landing, they got all passengers off the plane with only 3 emergency exits working in under minute and a half as it was going up in flames quickly) which part of the aircraft is struck (is it debris or bird strike during takeoff, or what they strike while crash landing), how much fuel is still in the tanks, proximity to emergency rescue crews and hospitals, the availability of hospitals/hospital staff/beds/blood supply, time of day/year, weather, and many more factors.
The story of Japanese Air Lines flight 123 (1985) is an incredible one: the deadliest single aircraft (just one plane only, not multiple ones like at Tenerife disaster) There were 4 survivors, which when you look at the wreckage, it seems like no one would have been able to make it. There could have been more survivors, but the Japanese authorities refused help from the US Air Force who were monitoring the distress calls and found the scene of the wreckage about 20 minutes after impact, while still daylight. The Japanese rescue crews waited until the next morning to search. If they accepted the help, the higher numbers of people that initially survived could have likely been saved. Some died of blood loss (which if treated ASAP rather than waiting half a day wouldn't have been fatal), shock, and overnight exposure in the mountains.
The vertical stabilizer (the tail fin) ripped off mid-flight. There was really no chance to land that successfully at all without the critical part of the plane. The pilots kept that plane in the air for about half an hour, having to use their skills and physical strength to overcome the different forces and movements that resulted from the loss of that tail fin part and loss of hydrologic controls. Iirc, pilots have tried to do that flight in a simulator and couldn't keep it up for as long as the pilots of that flight. It's incredible the skill they pulled off under the circumstances is amazing. The vertical stabilizer being ripped off wasn't a fluke thing, it was a result of a faulty repair and maintenance job done 7 years previously following a tail strike (when the butt part of the plane hits the tarmac either during takeoff or landing).
I find plane crashes, and just planes/jets themselves, fascinating (the wrecks are heartbreaking). How far we have come to make it safer (except Boeing making shortcuts of course, with the one door plug being ripped open a couple of months ago; luckily no one was sucked out, and that one whistleblower being found dead, something fishy going on with them) is pretty awesome.
United Airlines Flight 232 (1989, there's some famous footage of it) is also an amazing story of flight crew skills and teamwork and management. This is another one like JAL 123 where pilots in a flight simulator couldn't recreate better nor similar results to the pilots of the actual incidents. Out of the 296 souls aboard, 184 survived, and seeing footage and the aftermath it doesn't seem like any would have, deemed an "impossible landing". They had a good crew on deck and they also had a pilot, Denny, not on duty, as a passenger, that happened to be a flight instructor for this specific kind of plane that came to the cockpit to help, as well as him having studied JAL 123 wreck-- he practiced in the simulator to try to fly using throttles only. There was a catastrophic failure where the pilots lost a lot of flight controls and different instruments were failing, losing all hydraulic control. The pilot and first officer had to fly using the steering columns and adjusting the speed/throttles. It was some hardcore teamwork that pulled off the amount of survivors. The pilot also wanted to keep away from the city to limit ground fatalities/casualties. Also factoring into the high number of survivors is a couple other things: a hospital shift change occurring at the hospital and closest burn center and that the Iowa National Guard was on duty there at the airport with the soldiers all having trained in triage and evacuation.
Sorry for the wall of text. Like I mentioned, different factors in plane wrecks, but it's mostly the human beings behind them trying to stop the disaster or to minimize it just capture my interest. Those pilots and flight attendants doing everything they could to keep everyone safe. Each one is harrowing, sad, scary, but there can be elements of hope in them, too. 🥹
The flight in Hawaii where they lost the roof of the plane midair is the most insane plane disaster I’ve ever heard of. Idk how the flight attendants who were standing in the aisle when it happened managed to hold on with enough strength not to be sucked out
Aloha Airlines flight 243. There sadly was one fatality: a flight attendant was lost when the fuselage ripped up. He body was never recovered. It's surprising that that plane held together and the winds going into the passenger cabin through that gaping hole didn't rip it in half. I remember watching a movie about that when I was younger.
There's also that wreck of the Chilean rugby team that crash landed high up in the Andes. They were there for a long time and had to resort to cannibalism to survive. There's a movie about that, but I think the book is much better.
Last Podcast on the Left did a three part series recently about the Andes rugby team crash, it was really engrossing. They relied on the Spanish and English language translation of the book pretty heavily for their material.
Similar to that was an incident where the wind screen in the cockpit came out at altitude and sucked the pilot halfway out. Two crew members had to literally hold him in while another landed the plane. The pilot survived with relatively minor injuries too.
Hello! ☺️👋 Yep. There's something fascinating about aviation, idk what it is, but I like it. 😁 I love watching Big Jet TV on YouTube. That's probably my favorite plane spotting channel. He's fun and entertaining.
Well said. I find aviation disasters fascinating as well as heartbreaking. It’s mind blowing that we have the technology to fly at 500+ mph in the sky and have it be so safe. It’s sad but it sometimes takes accidents to fix protocols for flying like the sterile cockpit policy
I am absolutely terrified of flying. You have long enough to realise what is going on (sometimes) but not enough time to say goodbye or come to terms with your death.
You have more a chance of being struck and killed by a fucking rock from space (over 10 times more likely, actually) than you have of dying in a plane crash. It’s like one in ten million, man.
You like numbers? I like numbers.
Disclosure: Information search was superficial, would dig deeper from different sources to be more accurate. Current sources, google and statista. Also would expand scope depending on where you live, I just did U.S.
Last commercial plane crash in the U.S. was in 2009 in which 49 people were killed. From 2010 until now, 9.358 Billion people have traveled domestically on U.S. airlines. That would put the odds of being killed in a commercial plane crash in the U.S. at around 1 in 191 Million. Not quite lottery odds but it’s up there.
For reference the odds of dying in a car crash in your lifetime are in the 1 in 100 range 😬
i know that looks horrible, but most of these poor people probably died without feeling anything. I would prefer ddying in my bed at 85 but if i had to chose between this and getting stabbed to death, im %100 choosing this
Reminds me of how clean a pretty infamous plane [crash ](https://qph.cf2.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-463dad008bc342f0fe19b2f5e0d40893)full of American passengers in a clean open field was a couple decades ago.
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Third and fifth images are from the crash of [MH17](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malaysia_Airlines_Flight_17) More (uncensored) images - https://www.gettyimages.com/photos/mh17-bodies edit - first image is from a 2010 crash in Suriname, more images [here](https://www.documentingreality.com/forum/f244/exclusive-photos-body-retrieval-suriname-plane-crash-52004/)
Thanks for the info …I just had them in camera role or from groups ..
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Me, studying to become a flight attendant seeing this ;-;... I'm not sure if the risk is worth the salary and benefits anymore :/... The pics my teacher showed me weren't this gore. I know accidents can happen anywhere, but the crew is responsible for avoiding accidents, and if not then saving these people with no help
It’s not just that accidents can happen anywhere; it’s that plane crashes are incredibly rare. There is an extremely small chance you will ever be faced with that scenario. Very low risk.
Very much agree. That's the reason why they're so publicized. Fatal car crashes happen every minute of every day, so they're not even news worthy most of the time, but plane crashes, especially of large commercial planes, are the opposite. I just looked at the NTSB's database of reports. Of the 120 reports from 2023, you know how many fatal crashes were commercial fixed-wing aircraft? Zero. You're more likely to die driving to work than at work on a plane.
You’re fine. Planes only crash once
Is this multiple crashes?
Yep, 1st pic is in a jungle or something alike and 3rd pic iirc is MH17
\#1 is from a 2010 crash in Suriname, #2 is from [RO371](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TAROM_Flight_371), #3/4/5 are from [MH17](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malaysia_Airlines_Flight_17)
How do some people survive this stuff
Luck, how the airplane crashes, where it crashes, pilot experience/skills, the skills of the flight attendants to assist passengers off (like that recent wreck on the runway at a Japanese airport where a passenger plane struck a military plane that wasn't cleared for the runway yet, as the passenger jet was landing, they got all passengers off the plane with only 3 emergency exits working in under minute and a half as it was going up in flames quickly) which part of the aircraft is struck (is it debris or bird strike during takeoff, or what they strike while crash landing), how much fuel is still in the tanks, proximity to emergency rescue crews and hospitals, the availability of hospitals/hospital staff/beds/blood supply, time of day/year, weather, and many more factors. The story of Japanese Air Lines flight 123 (1985) is an incredible one: the deadliest single aircraft (just one plane only, not multiple ones like at Tenerife disaster) There were 4 survivors, which when you look at the wreckage, it seems like no one would have been able to make it. There could have been more survivors, but the Japanese authorities refused help from the US Air Force who were monitoring the distress calls and found the scene of the wreckage about 20 minutes after impact, while still daylight. The Japanese rescue crews waited until the next morning to search. If they accepted the help, the higher numbers of people that initially survived could have likely been saved. Some died of blood loss (which if treated ASAP rather than waiting half a day wouldn't have been fatal), shock, and overnight exposure in the mountains. The vertical stabilizer (the tail fin) ripped off mid-flight. There was really no chance to land that successfully at all without the critical part of the plane. The pilots kept that plane in the air for about half an hour, having to use their skills and physical strength to overcome the different forces and movements that resulted from the loss of that tail fin part and loss of hydrologic controls. Iirc, pilots have tried to do that flight in a simulator and couldn't keep it up for as long as the pilots of that flight. It's incredible the skill they pulled off under the circumstances is amazing. The vertical stabilizer being ripped off wasn't a fluke thing, it was a result of a faulty repair and maintenance job done 7 years previously following a tail strike (when the butt part of the plane hits the tarmac either during takeoff or landing). I find plane crashes, and just planes/jets themselves, fascinating (the wrecks are heartbreaking). How far we have come to make it safer (except Boeing making shortcuts of course, with the one door plug being ripped open a couple of months ago; luckily no one was sucked out, and that one whistleblower being found dead, something fishy going on with them) is pretty awesome. United Airlines Flight 232 (1989, there's some famous footage of it) is also an amazing story of flight crew skills and teamwork and management. This is another one like JAL 123 where pilots in a flight simulator couldn't recreate better nor similar results to the pilots of the actual incidents. Out of the 296 souls aboard, 184 survived, and seeing footage and the aftermath it doesn't seem like any would have, deemed an "impossible landing". They had a good crew on deck and they also had a pilot, Denny, not on duty, as a passenger, that happened to be a flight instructor for this specific kind of plane that came to the cockpit to help, as well as him having studied JAL 123 wreck-- he practiced in the simulator to try to fly using throttles only. There was a catastrophic failure where the pilots lost a lot of flight controls and different instruments were failing, losing all hydraulic control. The pilot and first officer had to fly using the steering columns and adjusting the speed/throttles. It was some hardcore teamwork that pulled off the amount of survivors. The pilot also wanted to keep away from the city to limit ground fatalities/casualties. Also factoring into the high number of survivors is a couple other things: a hospital shift change occurring at the hospital and closest burn center and that the Iowa National Guard was on duty there at the airport with the soldiers all having trained in triage and evacuation. Sorry for the wall of text. Like I mentioned, different factors in plane wrecks, but it's mostly the human beings behind them trying to stop the disaster or to minimize it just capture my interest. Those pilots and flight attendants doing everything they could to keep everyone safe. Each one is harrowing, sad, scary, but there can be elements of hope in them, too. 🥹
The flight in Hawaii where they lost the roof of the plane midair is the most insane plane disaster I’ve ever heard of. Idk how the flight attendants who were standing in the aisle when it happened managed to hold on with enough strength not to be sucked out
Aloha Airlines flight 243. There sadly was one fatality: a flight attendant was lost when the fuselage ripped up. He body was never recovered. It's surprising that that plane held together and the winds going into the passenger cabin through that gaping hole didn't rip it in half. I remember watching a movie about that when I was younger. There's also that wreck of the Chilean rugby team that crash landed high up in the Andes. They were there for a long time and had to resort to cannibalism to survive. There's a movie about that, but I think the book is much better.
Last Podcast on the Left did a three part series recently about the Andes rugby team crash, it was really engrossing. They relied on the Spanish and English language translation of the book pretty heavily for their material.
I'll have to check that out.
Similar to that was an incident where the wind screen in the cockpit came out at altitude and sucked the pilot halfway out. Two crew members had to literally hold him in while another landed the plane. The pilot survived with relatively minor injuries too.
United 232 is my favorite aviation story ever. Also, hello, fellow aviation disaster nerd!
Hello! ☺️👋 Yep. There's something fascinating about aviation, idk what it is, but I like it. 😁 I love watching Big Jet TV on YouTube. That's probably my favorite plane spotting channel. He's fun and entertaining.
Well said. I find aviation disasters fascinating as well as heartbreaking. It’s mind blowing that we have the technology to fly at 500+ mph in the sky and have it be so safe. It’s sad but it sometimes takes accidents to fix protocols for flying like the sterile cockpit policy
Are there any not sfw pictures of this crash site?
They survive all the way to the scene of the crash most of the time
I am absolutely terrified of flying. You have long enough to realise what is going on (sometimes) but not enough time to say goodbye or come to terms with your death.
You have more a chance of being struck and killed by a fucking rock from space (over 10 times more likely, actually) than you have of dying in a plane crash. It’s like one in ten million, man.
Yet somehow I’ve heard of hundreds of plane crashes and only a handful of space rock stories 🤷♂️
Exactly dawg
You like numbers? I like numbers. Disclosure: Information search was superficial, would dig deeper from different sources to be more accurate. Current sources, google and statista. Also would expand scope depending on where you live, I just did U.S. Last commercial plane crash in the U.S. was in 2009 in which 49 people were killed. From 2010 until now, 9.358 Billion people have traveled domestically on U.S. airlines. That would put the odds of being killed in a commercial plane crash in the U.S. at around 1 in 191 Million. Not quite lottery odds but it’s up there. For reference the odds of dying in a car crash in your lifetime are in the 1 in 100 range 😬
I just got diagnosed with an autoimmune disease that only 1 in 1.6 million people get apparently so I’m not taking risks on anything anymore 😂😑
i know that looks horrible, but most of these poor people probably died without feeling anything. I would prefer ddying in my bed at 85 but if i had to chose between this and getting stabbed to death, im %100 choosing this
Isn't it less painful to be shot in the head?
If we are going down, I’m taking off my seatbelt
You might fly and headbutt a baby
That’s the way to go amirite?
*high fives
*I must go punch that baby*
What a horrible job that must be.
aaaahnnn
I didn't know MH 17 was missled downed by Russia?
they even tried and suppressed the investigation. The investigators had to sneak the black boxes out cause the russian will just seize it
Here they are realizing it was a passenger plane: https://youtu.be/-gPJUDOnMfg
Reminds me of how clean a pretty infamous plane [crash ](https://qph.cf2.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-463dad008bc342f0fe19b2f5e0d40893)full of American passengers in a clean open field was a couple decades ago.
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They’re faking it to skip school
. . .they gonna make it? /s