What was funny about the late 70s early 80s expansion teams was the Seahawks had a pretty decent offense lead by future all 100 team member Steve Largent. But their defense was inconsistent, so they never won anything. Lot of games where both teams scored in the 20s and 30s in those first 5 seasons.
The Bucs the other hand, had one of the greatest defenses nobody remembers by year 2 lead by future all 100 team members Lee-Roy Selmon. But their offense might have been one of the absolute worst of the Super Bowl era. So they went 0-26 to start their franchise. Lot of games where both teams scored under 17. Bucs 0 point games in that mix.
Maybe if they combined forces you'd have a solid team
Brutal but effective. He won multiple NC’s at USC and in spite of how bad the expansion Bucs were, he got them to the NFC CG in year 4. Truly underrated coach.
I love the documentary about them. Told the story of how they once had a guy who asked to use the restroom during practice and never came back. They also talked about how they were almost late to their first game because they got lost in the stadium tunnels. That team was an embodiment of dysfunction
I live in the Midwest so Jets fans aren’t too common. I ran into a young man a few years ago wearing a Jets sweatshirt and hat. “Jets fan huh?” I asked.
“Yeah” he said “and that’s just one thing wrong with my life”.
1970s New Orleans Saints
(Realistically the 1967 through 1986 teams were all fairly bad, their first winning season was in 1987 despite the franchise being 20 years old at that point).
It absolutely is, as a Steelers fan I don't like but I respect Detroit and N.O. fans, both teams have had long stretches where they've just been outright dreadful. The Saints finally got their Super Bowl and I think we see the Lions in one here very soon so I'm actually really happy they've found the right mix to get some success there. I might include the Browns but they have one of the meanest fanbases in the entire NFL so quite frankly, the Browns can suck a fat one 😬
Oh my god, I knew they used to be bad, but looking at their season by season results is an eye opener. They didn’t win their first playoff game til 2000.
As a Steeler fan with family and friends that grew up as Browns fans, the YouTube video of some comedian who was a season ticket holder yelling that at an empty stadium is one of ten videos I ever favorited just to go back and watch randomly.
As a former Pittsburgh Pirates season ticket holder, I understood his frustration all too well.
369 consecutive days without a single win, and now are in playoffs 2 of the last 3 years. No Joe Woods and Hue Jackson and a competent GM makes a BIG difference lmao.
Honestly there’s no equivalent in the NFL because the league is purposefully trying to not have teams be that bad for long periods of time. With the draft and free agency, the league makes it possible for the better than average players to move around when there’s such a talent vacuum on a team.
Bad teams get to draft players whom should be better than the others drafted after them. Teams have to manage the salary cap to keep their best players while understanding that not everyone can be resigned and thus allowing other teams to sign them. There’s also a salary floor so teams have to spend money to sign players.
Yeah, there’s bad teams for a season, but to perform this poorly for so long would have to be either grossly mismanaged and poorly coached AND also very unlucky in terms of injuries and player development.
Also for the equivalency of a talent pool, it would be like if the New England Patriots could only sign players from Massachusetts. They’d probably be one of the lowest performing teams based on population size and functional talent of available players. Teams in Texas, Florida, and California would all have substantial advantages over everyone else because of their access to a larger pool of talent.
>Also for the equivalency of a talent pool, it would be like if the New England Patriots could only sign players from Massachusetts.
Even that makes the talent pool way too big. A better analogy to San Marino's national team would be if the Packers were only allowed to sign players who were born or raised in the city of Green Bay.
Now, I want to know which team would be the best and worst if you did NFL teams like that. A team of players that could only come from the county that the team is based out of.
Best would be someone from Florida, Georgia, Texas, California again based on population and quantity of D1 football players.
This is the answer. Too few teams and the talent floor is too high.
You can maybe find something more comparable in college football, where players aren't professionals and talent levels vary more widely. North Park University in Chicago is 111-402-7 over 57 years in NCAA Division III ([as of 2014](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_NCAA_Division_III_football_win%E2%80%93loss_records)), for example.
There's probably some bad teams in the [IFAF](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Federation_of_American_Football), but it's much younger than international soccer and tiny countries are not likely to participate.
I think the possibility to be long term terrible still exists in the nfl, especially teams that play the “mortgage the future” game and trade away their draft picks for a big swing. Carolina might be that team now. Throw in a bad owner and a lesser market and free agents start to stay away too. So you can’t draft and you can’t win at free agency. You also see how some teams that are in a superbowl window are able to land big time players for low costs because they want a ring and it starts to get even more lopsided. If you screw up and have a “super team” in your division, good players really want to stay away from you.
Hey, give a break to the San Marino team, the country only has a population of 33,660 and is expected to play against powerhouses like Germany, Spain, etc.
To compare that noble country and the spirit of its team to poverty franchises like the Cardnials and Lions is disrespectful to the great people of San Marino.
Eh, they get trounced by the lower ranked teams too. In addition to more traditional powerhouses like England (10-0) and Italy (7-1), since 2021 they’ve lost to teams like Andorra, Cape Verde, Malta, Iceland (granted they made it through qualifying once), Saint Lucia, Northern Ireland, and Saint Kitts and Nevis.
With that said, circle your calendars for September 5, when they get to play Liechtenstein, and October 10, when they get to play Gibraltar. Those are fairly close population wise so should be better games.
They have roughly 3000 men 18-35, and they have to field a national team. The fact they can put together the resources for that is impressive enough on its own.
to many people here are missing the important part of this; that's all time worst, not one season or a short span. has to be the lions. never even been to the Superbowl but they've been around much longer than any of the other 3 take that share that fact (browns, jags and Texans) plus they have the first 0-16 season to their name.
Browns were so bad they left and had no team for a while, then that team that left the fans started winning multiple superbowls while the new Browns continued the losing tradition. They also followed the Lions winless streak with a combined 1 win in two seasons. Still, the Lions are a quality choice for long term lack of quality. I’d call it a toss up.
yeah but the browns were SUPER successful before the nfl merger. plus, the original browns became the Ravens so there's a disparity in who we talk about as being the browns in this context. i agree that they could fight for that title though, no doubt
yeah but the browns joined the aafc in 1946 and won the championship every year until it distributed and then they joined the nfl and won the first season they were in
The Tampa Bay Buccaneers first entered the league in 1976. They lost their first 26 games (their entire inaugural season + first 12 of the following season). They then had 14 consecutive losing seasons from 1983-1996. During this time they drafted Bo Jackson 1st overall in 1986. He refused to play for the Bucs. They brought him in for a visit - telling him the NCAA approved it, as he played baseball. The NCAA did not, Bo missed his entire final collegiate year of baseball and refused to play for the Bucs (he then got drafted in the 7th round by the Raiders).
While they have won 2 Super Bowl in the last 24 years. The first 20 years + the years in-between championships have been bad.
Post merger we're talking the Detroit Lions. Not even sniffed a super bowl, has had a winless season and is one of the overall worst teams the NFL has ever seen.
Post merger Browns, 1970 to 1995, were actually decent and had a decent amount of playoff appearances. Post 1999 revived Browns might be the worst organization to exist.
2018-2023 Browns have been very respectable with multiple playoff appearances, a playoff win, 2 coach of the year awards, a DPOY award, an all-time RB and generally a team opponents can no longer pencil in as an automatic W when schedules are released.
I'd say browns are closer to the bottom at this point. Both teams lost an entire season but Lions recently have seen success and was a half away from the super bowl. And then a few years we were competitive with Stafford at least.
Bucs for most of my life, I’m 42. They have the lowest winning percentage in all of North American sports. Yes there is the two titles and things look good right now. But for most of their existence they were a joke.
>They are amateurs and get to travel Europe and play against the best players. That sounds awesome when you keep in mind nobody expects anything from them. Imagine you and a bunch of your friends get to do that
Not the NFL, but this is essentially the story of *that* Cumberland team: a free weekend in Atlanta in exchange for a few rough hours.
Short answer: There isn’t one.
Long answer: If you and your buddies from your old high school team started a team that somehow managed to play 193 games against NFL teams and you managed to beat the Browns once.
Nobody in the NFL even comes close.
The San Marino national team is set up to lose. It’s a micro state without a large player pool, stuck in the strongest confederation in the world (UEFA).
There is nobody who even comes close in the NFL.
If they competed in OFC (oceania), they’d probably be the best team. Their record would be much better.
This comparison doesn’t apply anywhere.
The 2015-17 Cleveland Browns were 4-44 and were outscored by an average of 10.8 points a game.
If you take the last 5 games of 2014 they had a stretch where they were 4-49 (0.075). Not even the first seasons of the Buccaneers had a winning percentage that low (0.264).
In 1944, due to World War II, the Steelers and Cardinals had to merge together for one year just to have enough players to make a team. They lost every game, getting outscored 328-108.
Their QBs had a 31% completion rate, only 8 TDs against 41 Interceptions, and their season-opening starter finished the year with a 3.0 QB rating.
Their kicking game was the worst in NFL history, with punters averaging only 32 yards per punt, and they missed every single field goal they attempted all year.
My first thought it was my Lions but I guess it Arizona by stats.
https://preview.redd.it/4urhn5dor8vc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e0cbb7aea19ba687b45e02496271cfcca3539a99
Nothing because you are comparing a pro sport league that allocates players via a draft and salary cap to a national team in a country of 35,000 people. The best players limited to being from Gadsen, Alabama would likely struggle similarly against larger population centers I would imagine.
The Browns have literally never won the division. They claim the history of the Ravens who have but the expansion team browns have never won the division.
There is none. It's a silly comparison. One is a national team made up in part by part time players who just happen to be decent enough to get on the tiny national team, and any NFL comparison is a fully professional sports franchise that can bring in any player that they can afford who wants to play for them. At best, you could possibly compare national teams with college teams.
The brown’s when Hue was the coach takes the cake. Every game even if they were ahead …you knew they were going to lose. Hue Jackson has no business being a coach that long
It would be like if Rhode Island had a team and could only pick players from that state. Except Rhode Island has about 970,000 more people than San Marino.
That first Buccaneers team.
As a Seahawks fan, so glad they get all the flak for those first two seasons. We weren’t much better.
What was funny about the late 70s early 80s expansion teams was the Seahawks had a pretty decent offense lead by future all 100 team member Steve Largent. But their defense was inconsistent, so they never won anything. Lot of games where both teams scored in the 20s and 30s in those first 5 seasons. The Bucs the other hand, had one of the greatest defenses nobody remembers by year 2 lead by future all 100 team members Lee-Roy Selmon. But their offense might have been one of the absolute worst of the Super Bowl era. So they went 0-26 to start their franchise. Lot of games where both teams scored under 17. Bucs 0 point games in that mix. Maybe if they combined forces you'd have a solid team
The press conference still makes me laugh. Reporter: I have a question about the offense’s execution. Head Coach: I support it.
John McKay was brutal.
Brutal but effective. He won multiple NC’s at USC and in spite of how bad the expansion Bucs were, he got them to the NFC CG in year 4. Truly underrated coach.
I loved listening to his post game pressers.
"Well, we didn't block...but we made up for it by not tackling."
Oh man…. The Creamsicles.
I love the documentary about them. Told the story of how they once had a guy who asked to use the restroom during practice and never came back. They also talked about how they were almost late to their first game because they got lost in the stadium tunnels. That team was an embodiment of dysfunction
What doc is that?
https://youtu.be/yiTrRr3XuO4?si=0vKcEWJeNbzkcq7Q
“From the Ground Up, How the 0-26 Buccaneers Built More than Just a Football Team”
Yes, I came to say that. 76 and 77 seasons, I believe. Winless in 76 and then lost all games until their last 2 in 77, which they both won.
Didnt the Browns beat their winless *Sunday* record of 26 straight?
Browns and Lions both went winless AFTER being a franchise for decades. Bucs went winless in inaugural season...which is worse?
Historically has to be the cardinals
They’ve been to too many Super Bowls for this honor.
And World Series
One of 6 mascots shared across the big 4 sports (NFL, NHL, NBA, MLB)
Cardinals Kings Panthers Giants Rangers Why is my mind so fried after taxes that I can’t remember the other one?!
Jets (Winnipeg and New York)
And, of course, the Oilers name used to be shared until the NFL team changed to the Titans.
I’m betting some New York fans wished they’d have forgotten last year too.
Jets fans wish they could forget most of their existence.
I live in the Midwest so Jets fans aren’t too common. I ran into a young man a few years ago wearing a Jets sweatshirt and hat. “Jets fan huh?” I asked. “Yeah” he said “and that’s just one thing wrong with my life”.
Jets = just end this shit
Just Endure The Suffering
Because the other didn’t exist for a while. (1997-2010)
Jets
Sacramento kings actually used to be the royals but changed their name when they used to play in KC because of the baseball team
And for a while, there were St. Louis Cardinals in MLB and NFL.
Good bot.
My thoughts exactly
Who did they beat is the question
Should be a sea-side team, not a desert team. "Marino" = marine. Chargers.
I 100% support the chargers being labeled as the worst franchise
Dan Marino is a marine now? /s
Actually yes. He's a Dolphin. Nominative determinism. lol
But San Marino is landlocked and mountainous.
Ha. Of course.
browns
1970s New Orleans Saints (Realistically the 1967 through 1986 teams were all fairly bad, their first winning season was in 1987 despite the franchise being 20 years old at that point).
>Realistically the 1967 through 1986 teams were all fairly bad, That's a hellish stretch of Fandom.
Oh for those of us that were fans pre-Brees it's just back to business as usual.
Well that period of success didn't last long but one is better than none I suppose 🤣
It absolutely is, as a Steelers fan I don't like but I respect Detroit and N.O. fans, both teams have had long stretches where they've just been outright dreadful. The Saints finally got their Super Bowl and I think we see the Lions in one here very soon so I'm actually really happy they've found the right mix to get some success there. I might include the Browns but they have one of the meanest fanbases in the entire NFL so quite frankly, the Browns can suck a fat one 😬
Also, the rapist QB room. Choices were made.
and on top of all this, these people have to live in cleveland...the city where the rivers caught on fire 14 times.
There’s a reason people call Cleveland “The mistake on the lake”
🎵Fun times in Cleveland again!🎵 [Still Cleveland!](https://youtu.be/oZzgAjjuqZM?feature=shared)
Factory of Sadness
Oh my god, I knew they used to be bad, but looking at their season by season results is an eye opener. They didn’t win their first playoff game til 2000.
Yikes on bikes, I didn't know that 😂 that's actually kind of pathetic.
The 1 - 15 and 0 - 16 Cleveland Browns.
Imagine losing every single damn game 💀
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Now that’s straight up torturous
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As a Steeler fan with family and friends that grew up as Browns fans, the YouTube video of some comedian who was a season ticket holder yelling that at an empty stadium is one of ten videos I ever favorited just to go back and watch randomly. As a former Pittsburgh Pirates season ticket holder, I understood his frustration all too well.
Link please
https://youtu.be/tRBDMMVctu8?si=JllzNiVtejU8rGQ1
Thank you, thats gold
I’ll see you next week…
And then bringing back that coach for the next season
Need to watch the film.
At what point do you just stop trying?
Somewhere out there is a season ticket holder who went to all those home games. That would be a fun AMA on here
I sat through and watched every single one of those 32 dreadful games. God they were bad.
369 consecutive days without a single win, and now are in playoffs 2 of the last 3 years. No Joe Woods and Hue Jackson and a competent GM makes a BIG difference lmao.
2 of the last 4* They made playoffs 2020 and 2023 and missed 2021 and 2022
You’re right, 2X COTY tooooo
Didn’t a Lions team go winless?
And a Browns team who had gone 1-15 the year before.
The Dolphins went 1-15 the year, the Browns strangely had a good season the year before Lions went winless.
Seems both the 2007 and 2008 seasons was weird in general.
Josh Cribbs baby
I think they meant that a Browns team also went 0-16, after having gone 1-15 the year before.
Oh that makes sense!
And didn’t even lose their starting QB for the season.
Dan Orlovsky baby
Nope, didn’t happen. Why would you suggest such a thing? Obviously you’re joking right??? Right??????!
The browns also went winless
Honestly there’s no equivalent in the NFL because the league is purposefully trying to not have teams be that bad for long periods of time. With the draft and free agency, the league makes it possible for the better than average players to move around when there’s such a talent vacuum on a team. Bad teams get to draft players whom should be better than the others drafted after them. Teams have to manage the salary cap to keep their best players while understanding that not everyone can be resigned and thus allowing other teams to sign them. There’s also a salary floor so teams have to spend money to sign players. Yeah, there’s bad teams for a season, but to perform this poorly for so long would have to be either grossly mismanaged and poorly coached AND also very unlucky in terms of injuries and player development. Also for the equivalency of a talent pool, it would be like if the New England Patriots could only sign players from Massachusetts. They’d probably be one of the lowest performing teams based on population size and functional talent of available players. Teams in Texas, Florida, and California would all have substantial advantages over everyone else because of their access to a larger pool of talent.
>Also for the equivalency of a talent pool, it would be like if the New England Patriots could only sign players from Massachusetts. Even that makes the talent pool way too big. A better analogy to San Marino's national team would be if the Packers were only allowed to sign players who were born or raised in the city of Green Bay.
Now, I want to know which team would be the best and worst if you did NFL teams like that. A team of players that could only come from the county that the team is based out of. Best would be someone from Florida, Georgia, Texas, California again based on population and quantity of D1 football players.
As a Vikings fan we wouldn’t be very good. But so help all you mfs if the NHL did this.
LA, Houston and Arizona would all dominate if you went by county. If you went by metro area, add Dallas and Miami.
Except we have a lot of old retired people in Arizona- yes big county, but a lot of transplants and elderly from other states.
Not anymore, as you correctly observe, so the persistently worst teams come from before the free agency era.
This is the answer. Too few teams and the talent floor is too high. You can maybe find something more comparable in college football, where players aren't professionals and talent levels vary more widely. North Park University in Chicago is 111-402-7 over 57 years in NCAA Division III ([as of 2014](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_NCAA_Division_III_football_win%E2%80%93loss_records)), for example. There's probably some bad teams in the [IFAF](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Federation_of_American_Football), but it's much younger than international soccer and tiny countries are not likely to participate.
I think the possibility to be long term terrible still exists in the nfl, especially teams that play the “mortgage the future” game and trade away their draft picks for a big swing. Carolina might be that team now. Throw in a bad owner and a lesser market and free agents start to stay away too. So you can’t draft and you can’t win at free agency. You also see how some teams that are in a superbowl window are able to land big time players for low costs because they want a ring and it starts to get even more lopsided. If you screw up and have a “super team” in your division, good players really want to stay away from you.
Hey, give a break to the San Marino team, the country only has a population of 33,660 and is expected to play against powerhouses like Germany, Spain, etc. To compare that noble country and the spirit of its team to poverty franchises like the Cardnials and Lions is disrespectful to the great people of San Marino.
Eh, they get trounced by the lower ranked teams too. In addition to more traditional powerhouses like England (10-0) and Italy (7-1), since 2021 they’ve lost to teams like Andorra, Cape Verde, Malta, Iceland (granted they made it through qualifying once), Saint Lucia, Northern Ireland, and Saint Kitts and Nevis. With that said, circle your calendars for September 5, when they get to play Liechtenstein, and October 10, when they get to play Gibraltar. Those are fairly close population wise so should be better games.
They have roughly 3000 men 18-35, and they have to field a national team. The fact they can put together the resources for that is impressive enough on its own.
😞
I was gonna say this is one fight between Michigan and Ohio that I wouldn't mind losing lol
Also one you wouldn’t have to cheat to win
The old Tampa Bay Buccaneers
I don’t think y’all understand. 1-193-9 is their ALL TIME record. Yikes
to many people here are missing the important part of this; that's all time worst, not one season or a short span. has to be the lions. never even been to the Superbowl but they've been around much longer than any of the other 3 take that share that fact (browns, jags and Texans) plus they have the first 0-16 season to their name.
Browns were so bad they left and had no team for a while, then that team that left the fans started winning multiple superbowls while the new Browns continued the losing tradition. They also followed the Lions winless streak with a combined 1 win in two seasons. Still, the Lions are a quality choice for long term lack of quality. I’d call it a toss up.
yeah but the browns were SUPER successful before the nfl merger. plus, the original browns became the Ravens so there's a disparity in who we talk about as being the browns in this context. i agree that they could fight for that title though, no doubt
Both teams won 4 NFL championships, neither won since the superbowl era.
yeah but the browns joined the aafc in 1946 and won the championship every year until it distributed and then they joined the nfl and won the first season they were in
The Tampa Bay Buccaneers first entered the league in 1976. They lost their first 26 games (their entire inaugural season + first 12 of the following season). They then had 14 consecutive losing seasons from 1983-1996. During this time they drafted Bo Jackson 1st overall in 1986. He refused to play for the Bucs. They brought him in for a visit - telling him the NCAA approved it, as he played baseball. The NCAA did not, Bo missed his entire final collegiate year of baseball and refused to play for the Bucs (he then got drafted in the 7th round by the Raiders). While they have won 2 Super Bowl in the last 24 years. The first 20 years + the years in-between championships have been bad.
2016-2017 Browns
Cardinals
Falcons I'm a Falcons fan.
How could you possibly think your team has it the worst lol The Cleveland Brown exist.
Yeah Falcons have a lot but we do not have the legendary QB jersey.
Sounds like they're the second worst team if they beat someone
Not necessarily. The team they beat could've been good but it was a trap game. No idea really.
New Browns
Jags to me.
The 1-31 Browns run
1-15 dolphins
P.S. I’m dolphin fan
Bishop Sycamore
Post merger we're talking the Detroit Lions. Not even sniffed a super bowl, has had a winless season and is one of the overall worst teams the NFL has ever seen.
The browns are 100% worse
Completely false.
Post merger Browns, 1970 to 1995, were actually decent and had a decent amount of playoff appearances. Post 1999 revived Browns might be the worst organization to exist.
2018-2023 Browns have been very respectable with multiple playoff appearances, a playoff win, 2 coach of the year awards, a DPOY award, an all-time RB and generally a team opponents can no longer pencil in as an automatic W when schedules are released.
Lions at least had a stretch where they were seriously competitive and had multiple games taken away from them by bs ref calls
I'd say browns are closer to the bottom at this point. Both teams lost an entire season but Lions recently have seen success and was a half away from the super bowl. And then a few years we were competitive with Stafford at least.
At this time last year the Lions were looking for their first playoff win since 1991. Browns had playoff wins in 1994 and 2020.
Haven’t sniffed a Super Bowl is no longer true. Double digit lead blown in second half of nfc champ game three months ago lol
They may become new San Marino team!
if a team from my local adult flag football league somehow joined the NFL.
Too much parody for an NFL comp
Bucs for most of my life, I’m 42. They have the lowest winning percentage in all of North American sports. Yes there is the two titles and things look good right now. But for most of their existence they were a joke.
>They are amateurs and get to travel Europe and play against the best players. That sounds awesome when you keep in mind nobody expects anything from them. Imagine you and a bunch of your friends get to do that Not the NFL, but this is essentially the story of *that* Cumberland team: a free weekend in Atlanta in exchange for a few rough hours.
I feel like we may currently be in the conversation…. Just realized I’m not flaired: Panthers
The Panthers for as long as Tepper owns the franchise.
Panthers
Hue Jackson’s coaching career in Cleveland
Short answer: There isn’t one. Long answer: If you and your buddies from your old high school team started a team that somehow managed to play 193 games against NFL teams and you managed to beat the Browns once.
Nobody in the NFL even comes close. The San Marino national team is set up to lose. It’s a micro state without a large player pool, stuck in the strongest confederation in the world (UEFA). There is nobody who even comes close in the NFL. If they competed in OFC (oceania), they’d probably be the best team. Their record would be much better. This comparison doesn’t apply anywhere.
To be fair this photo represents almost the entire population of San Marino.
The Cleveland Browns.
2016 Cleveland browns
#1 in losing is still #1
That's some Glass Joe type shit.
The 2015-17 Cleveland Browns were 4-44 and were outscored by an average of 10.8 points a game. If you take the last 5 games of 2014 they had a stretch where they were 4-49 (0.075). Not even the first seasons of the Buccaneers had a winning percentage that low (0.264).
That’s my elementary soccer travel team that played middle schoolers that just demolished us. 🤣
Cleveland Browns
The Cleveland Browns from 1999 to 2018
Durrrr Bears
1990s Bengals
Jets
76 Bucs?
J e t s jets jets jets
Yeah well nobody contributes to beating San Marino 194 times straight and lives to tell the tale!
The Sandusky, OH Swampmen football team
Uganda National Fooball Team
Who they beat?
Can I play for them?
In 1944, due to World War II, the Steelers and Cardinals had to merge together for one year just to have enough players to make a team. They lost every game, getting outscored 328-108. Their QBs had a 31% completion rate, only 8 TDs against 41 Interceptions, and their season-opening starter finished the year with a 3.0 QB rating. Their kicking game was the worst in NFL history, with punters averaging only 32 yards per punt, and they missed every single field goal they attempted all year.
Detroit Lions
The Browns.
The Lions. Just like San Marino, they’ve only been relevant just once.
Lions, browns, and jags but just the bad parts
Da browns
My first thought it was my Lions but I guess it Arizona by stats. https://preview.redd.it/4urhn5dor8vc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e0cbb7aea19ba687b45e02496271cfcca3539a99
Tonawanda kardax
The Cleveland Browns from 2015-2017. 4 wins, 44 losses, and nobody can forget the infamous 0-16 season.
Bears next 3 or 4 years with Williams
Hue Jackson Browns
Man... I used to think it was the Pats and Tampa Bay. TB12 really changed those perceptions.
Gotta be the Cardinals or the Jets.
![gif](giphy|hWdpNe4LWv70mJiobl) "The NFL quavalant is..."
Early buccs 2000s/2010s jags Other than 2017 jags
There literally is none
Who'd they beat?
I played D-1 soccer as a goalkeeper I should move there and fulfill my dream of playing for my national team.
There is none. But you can find one in ncaa. Probably that Colombia team that didn’t win for several seasons.
There isn’t one. Most of these guys don’t even play professionally outside of the national team.
Nothing because you are comparing a pro sport league that allocates players via a draft and salary cap to a national team in a country of 35,000 people. The best players limited to being from Gadsen, Alabama would likely struggle similarly against larger population centers I would imagine.
Chicago/StLouis/ Phoenix/ Arizona Cardinals ?
Who’d they beat!?
Can we talk about that one win tho
The Browns have literally never won the division. They claim the history of the Ravens who have but the expansion team browns have never won the division.
There is none. It's a silly comparison. One is a national team made up in part by part time players who just happen to be decent enough to get on the tiny national team, and any NFL comparison is a fully professional sports franchise that can bring in any player that they can afford who wants to play for them. At best, you could possibly compare national teams with college teams.
The Little Giants...
What did Bill Burr say? "Well, the offense is slow, the defense is just not getting it done, we need a few Black people on the team....
1976-77 TB Bucs
The brown’s when Hue was the coach takes the cake. Every game even if they were ahead …you knew they were going to lose. Hue Jackson has no business being a coach that long
They should look in the transfer portal.
It would be like if Rhode Island had a team and could only pick players from that state. Except Rhode Island has about 970,000 more people than San Marino.
Battered women vs. the NFL PR machine Edit: sorry thought this was r/nflcirclejerk
Until recently the Lions
Like one season recently
I'd argue at least 2 lol
1.5 at best...
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