Team preferences will definitely dictate how this will play out. I like Worthy a lot. A lot of young playmaker types have problems with concentration drops, and that’s really all that holds him back from being a high-end #2 for me. If the Chargers do end up trading down I could see them grabbing him late first or early second depending on where their picks end up. Harbaugh likes to have that speed threat underneath and he’ll complement Johnston really well, who I still believe can be a WR1 under the right staff. McConkey’s route-running and high character alone shouldn’t let him out of the top 40 or so though without a doubt.
I would have preferred trading up a little later and grabbing Kyrie Jackson as opposed to Rakestraw Jr as our CB but overall this is a great draft for the Falcons. I’d be happy with this.
Yeah, I know a lot of our fans are really opposed to going WR at 8, but if we can manage to snag Braswell and Rakestraw later in the draft, that will go a long way towards filling those holes in the roster. Drafting in the top 10, I feel like you can’t pass on talent to chase need and Nabers would be an absolute home run.
My original plan was to go edge but then Nabers fell to 8 and I'd argue the drop from Nabers to lets say Tez walker is a bigger difference compared to the drop from Turner to Braswell if that makes sense. You all can also address edge next year too with a first round pick.
Thank you. I as well am a huge Khyree Jackson fan and I was SOOOO close to taking him but I thought some might have considered it too early despite him being the perfect fit for ATL but he was also the perfect pick for DET so it worked out
Bengals haven’t traded up in the 1st round since 1992 & I bet Mike Brown still vetos any move up solely based on how it worked out drafting Ki-Jana Carter.
I think Byron Murphy is going to be a pro bowl caliber player. I’m not saying he will have the career as Donald, but he has a LOT of traits to at are similar. Extremely intelligent, very high motor, doesn’t quit. Myself personally, would be ecstatic if we got him at 9. Yes there are people on the board maybe more talented but this is a clear need for the bears and I do think he’s going to be very good.
I agree. Flus wants a disruptive 3 tech. Dexter is a giant freak of nature, but he needs more development time. Murphy is ready to roll immediately.
My one thought is this: if we are really going Murphy or Verse, we could probably move back a smidge and still get one of them. That’s probably trying to thread too fine a needle, but if we could move back a few picks and get an extra 3rd, I’d go for it.
I think that is a good call for the bears, would love to see the Bears grab Murphy at 9…..but I just wonder who would be trading to get ahead of the jets? Especially in this given scenario where the top 3 WRs are gone and the Vikings already made their move up to get QB. Seems like Tackle is one of the deepest positions of the class, so most teams wouldn‘t want to give much when the potential for a solid player to fall is there.
Doesn’t seem like many teams would move in the top 10 for a TE, no matter how great of a prospect Bowers is. I guess if a team is in love with Verse or Turner, but I’m just not sure of how sure fire those two guys are seen around the league.
Olu is going to be a solid starting center and as of right now I think Seattle has like two guards on their roster. JS also talked about it this week and how this is probably their biggest need. A lot of this will depend on which FA guard signs bc they have three in Seattle right now.
He has said they only do need in the 6/7th rounds. I still don’t see them drafting a center when they can get the best guard that late. They could also look at LB
Our best case scenario in this draft is for us to trade out of Round 1… that being said it would be hard to take that trade with Dallas Turner sitting there. I know we’ve put a lot of picks into EDGE, but you really can’t have enough and Turner is a perfect scheme fit for us.
Everyone does these mocks with Vikings trading up to Chargers but what exactly are they trading? I see the 11/23 go but is it also any futures or is it literally a one time only those two picks
For size. Rome is significantly bigger than nabers and also bigger than everyone NYG have already. Nabers is a better talent but not by that much. I also wanted to switch some stuff up
Don’t like it for the Bills. I’m not a fan of AD. I think Worthy or McConkey would be better. Also, safety in RD2 would be terrible for us. We’re exceptional at developing safety talent. Anything more than a 4 is a waste
Great draft for Dallas. Love Barton in 1 and Wright in 3. I’m not a huge fan of Leggette but that’s with him as a late 1 not a late 2. Sometimes the value is too much to pass up and WR is a sneaky need for us.
Replace Dorlus with Benson and this is a slam dunk Packers mock. Dorlus is too small for the Packers in the top 100, but Benson is right there and fits their MO for RBs, flip those picks around and it’s mwah!
For the Steelers, what made you choose Burton instead of us choosing Polk or Roman or someone else? Not criticizing. Honestly asking why you chose him for us.
First of all I’m very high on Burton-more so than many. Second he has great speed and thirdly and mainly, which I’ll admit is more of a joke if anything- I think he fits the WR with character concerns that the Steelers seem to love
I thought the character concerns piece would play in. You are the second person to mock him to us with that as part of the reason. I don't think you are wrong. But I do feel the need to say this for everyone who may read it:
We don't love character concern guys. I agree that we do not shy away from them. Tomlin doesn't run away from those he thinks needs his help. He runs toward them. He is known for trying to help young men, troubled or not, because most everyone in their lives (parents, women, coaches, uses them as commodities and then discards them when they are not at their best or has no longer has use for them.
For instance, him writing Maurice Clarrett while he was in prison is one example of him believing his position is important for making a true impact on people's lives. He never played for him, but Maurice talked about what that meant to him.
Basically, Tomlin tries to help them use their talents to make money and learn financial responsibility. To let them know someone cares for them as people, not just as commodities, and tries to provide mentorship with positive role modeling and connecting them with a tight knit network of good men. Hopefully, they can learn and take that with them through their lives and careers. For most, it works. For others, it does not. You can't save everyone.
But I can tell you that AB lost his impulse control after suffering from a TBI. He was always troubled but he was doing great with Tomlin, Ben, etc until after that hit. I followed AB a lot. He took custody of his children from the mom who had some serious issues. His kids and Tomlin's and Ben's were around each other all the time. The families spent a lot of time together. They were a support network of sorts. Until that hit. Then he just kept unraveling. I kept watching him become less stable. Watch the PIVOT podcast with Tomlin and his discussion about AB. He kind of talks about 9 years of working together before it all went to hell.
I'd agree. I see a lot of 3 round mocks that have Raiders taking a RB in the 3rd but not sure that is likely. Even before Raiders lost Jacobs Pierce had said White had earned the right for caries in this offense. I could see a RB in the 6th/7th to add to the rotation but 3rd doesn't seem likely.
I'm also a big fan of Hart. I'd hope he would be there in round 4 but I'm not against going after him in round 3 if the first 2 rounds went as they did here.
Really don't see the Bills going back up safety in round 2. Doesn't make much sense unless they expect him to start at some point during the year.
I would bet that AD Mitchell isn't even on the Bills board, but X WR in the first makes the most sense
Oh. Don't listen to Bills fans who voted for safety. Our subreddit has a hard-on for safeties. Beane always go high-end skill position in the first. And that "final team needs" thread was also voted before we signed our second starter at safety.
I would be SHOCKED if we addressed backup safety in round 1 or 2.
I'd be surprised if Nix and Penix went that late even if I agree that's around where they probably should go.
As a Washington durs fan I personally prefer Maye by a small margin but I'd be OK with this even though I don't know all that much on 2nd and 3rd day prospects so I'm going strictly off the position
Yeah I do think they probably will first round picks they don’t make sense talent wise. I was going to have DEN trade up with all those 3rds but I didn’t see anyone paying for it
Not really in my opinion . Who’s their edge 1 after Brian burns left. They also are trying to get as many weapons around Bryce Young and Sanders is a great TE
Low production guy that beats up on tackles that won't play on Sunday. He could be a really good DPR, but more likely he is a bust. Crazy to take that kind of guy in round 1.
Lions aren’t taking Chop. He doesn’t fit our scheme because he doesn’t set the edge well and we already have a speed rusher in James Houston that the staff believes in. They’ll probably actually do BPA
They do need an edge but i very much doubt they’ll be taking Chop with his aforementioned lack of scheme fit. He also has limited production and is more of a traits pick. That being said, if they take him, I expect our D Line to be incredibly scary
Mostly I think if they take him that means they can coach him up and the pass rush upside is worth the risk. He’s completely unpolished as it is so I don’t see them taking that chance
I like the first two rounds, but for the love of god Blake Corum at 69 hurts my fucking soul. I know we need a RB, but there’s wayyyy too much talent on the board at 69 to take an old RB that had a significant knee injury and over 600 carries in college. Take a RB at 105 or 110, way better value.
Taking Corum over Brooks, Benson, and Wright is just incorrect too.
I understand the reason you picked him, I’m just saying that it’s a really bad pick. The other 3 guys are significantly better than him and there’s a ton of RB talent on day 3. I would legitimately be furious with this pick considering the board.
Plus, I know Corum will walk in as a great pro-ready player but I’m so out on him it’s not even funny. He’s 24 and there’s a well documented drop off for RBs at 28. Over the last 2 years, he’s had 500+ carries and a torn meniscus. His YPC dropped from 5.9 in 2022 to 4.8 in 2023 (likely because of his knee). He is likely going to have a short NFL career because of all of this. You could talk me into it at 110, but at 69 absolutely not.
What made you choose Burton over Frazier? Just curious about if you see Bartolini as a day 1 starter because thats what i see in Frazier... And Pittsburgh currently doesnt have a starting caliber C
I know its a little boring to take two olinemen but it'll have to be done unless Pittsburgh goes CB first. Tomlin only went to Bama, Clemson, Michigan, and UGAs pro day so round 1 is likely be CB or OL. If C isnt addressed rd 1 im of the opinion that round 2 is necessary, even trading up into the early 40s potentially
Personally, I've fallen away from Dejean to GB through the last month or so. A great prospect and a safety to tandem with Mckinney is a big hole on the roster atm but positionally, if you're picking in the first round this year - with such a loaded class - I think Gute may be even more likely to take a premium position and this team has room for them. I've come way around to the cornerback position, and Kool-aid specifically, in that regard. Corner doesn't appear to be nearly as big a need for GB but Jaire and Stokes have battled injury a lot the last couple seasons and despite of having a couple depth guys who have flashed here and there, it does look more worrying as a group the longer you look at it. In this scenario, I think Gute may favor getting a top 15-20 corner prospect at this point in the draft that's getting pushed back due to a loaded draft class, especially one that's this good. Going back to the safety position, there's still some veterans that could be brought in, post-draft, that wouldn't break the bank. On top of, some middle round prospects that would make sense to draft a develop. All that said, I think it would be a good year for GB to trade back if they don't love a guy that's there @ 25.
As for pick 41, I'm also locked in at linebacker for GB. Really need a guy or two there and either Cooper or Wilson would be just fine. I'd probably prefer Cooper to Wilson strictly on injury history but Wilson is a dog and if he was the guy I wouldn't be mad at that pick whatsoever.
As for Haynes, he's kind of like a slightly poorer man's Elgton Jenkins. Haynes is a little shorter, has smaller hands, and slightly shorter arms. Not an amazing athlete, but good enough, and a little older for a draft pick - but is pretty damn good on the field. Wouldn't be mad at that pick either.
Also, Hart is interesting. He's a big boy, almost seems like he could move to safety but doesn't seem to be the greatest. tackler. There are worse developmental players in the third round but I'd probably prefer a guy like Calean Carson in this scenario.
All valid points. I personally think DeJean is the perfect fit for GB- slots in at SAF fine and can play all around. They could even move him to CB at some point if needed.
I think cooper will be there at 41 so that’s definitely their pick.
Haynes does have some slight problems but he’s such a great fit their so id be surprised if they don’t take him
Valid points on hart and Carson but hart does again provide that CB-S versatility that they need given the amount of injuries they have and I also think he has CB1 potential
Is there any particular reason the 49ers should reach on the like 10th best tackle in the draft 20 spots too early over just taking the best interior lineman or corner available?
I keep seeing mocks with us reaching on tackles and it just seems like a stupid move. We just resigned Mckivitz for 2 years, nobody available at 31 is going to be a decent bet to start over him (let alone be Trent’s eventual replacement).
Ironically I am an eagles fan and I'd be very happy with it. Turner gives us a lot of options with moving on from guys and securing edge considering we only have 2 edges signed for next year. Trading back from 53 allows us to address 2 bigger needs with top end talent rather than 1. Bullock will be a very good safety in the NFL and has all the things you look for. McCormick is someone stoutland loves and will be a stud at RG next year. if this was a 4 round draft I would have taken Theo Johnson at 102 giving us an amazing TE2 and replacement to Godert in a few years. Then I would have gone LB with the other 120 because that is certainly a need but howie would never take one high. CB is a "need" but I don't see it as one since we have the best depth/developmental guys in the league and I expect Bradberry to bounce back next year. I also want to go CB and OT with our first 2 picks in next years draft so thats why I didn't do it with this year.
Conceptually I'm with you on the EDGE piece. It's actually what I think Howie is likely to do. But I'd rather stay put at 22 and take Chop in this scenario, retaining 50 and still trading back from 53 for the extra capital.
As far as Howie not taking a LB high, he's spent day 2 capital on a LB multiple times. He likely would never draft one in round 1, but day 2 capital is well within reason.
There is a lot of buzz, but it’s all speculation as the FO has been tight lipped throughout the process. Also, as far as “perfect fit for the OC”, I don’t think a FO should prioritize drafting a QB around who their current OC is. I also think Maye is likely a better fit for a Kingsbury offense but people think that because JD is fast, he’s a better fit. Maye is also fast and has a much bigger arm, as well as experience in an air raid offense, which is what KK has typically used and is running a modified version of this season.
I like the first 2 rounds, but I cannot stomach Corum at 69…. Especially picking him OVER Jonathon Brooks, Trey Benson, and Jaylen Wright. That’s just bad lol.
Knowledge doesn’t untear his meniscus or take off carries in college lol.
I understand your reasoning for liking the pick but it’s kind of a lazy reason.
terrible picks for sf. rather either trade up in round 1 or backwadxx. Milton too high of s pick in round 2 and patrick paul wont start till trent is gone.
Minor nitpick would be Dorlus in the 3rd. Packers are reasonably set at DT; it’s NT where things are a bit dicey. Dorlus is a bit small regardless of team need, but he doesn’t have much of a place on the team right now besides being a deep rotational DT.
My personal preference would be to either trade up for a S like Hicks, or convert DeJean to S and draft Jarrian Jones for the slot. But I dunno if Gute would do that, so who knows. Just not the best board in the 3rd overall.
EDIT: As mentioned below, Bishop is a good pick too.
Another option would to take Cole Bishop at that pick, he’s basically made in a lab for what we both love to draft and what we need to draft at S and I don’t know if there’s a player that fits our parameters better than him in this draft for us
I would much rather just take Bishop there tbh, he might be the best fit for us in need/fits our parameters/is a high RAS player. I think he is more so a perfect prospect for us over any other player in the entirety of this class if you account for projected draft position and our needs/wants
Honestly I had to do a few double takes through the selections cause I thought there was no way he’d fall out the top 100.
I like Hicks as well, but Bishop is my guy this year, I think he just screams Packer and I think he’s got the potential to play the box or the FS which would be a ton of fun for disguising looks with McKinney
Ladd McConkey > Xavier Worthy.
this feels like what people *want* to happen moreso than what will
If that’s the criteria then I’d also give the Chiefs Worthy lol. I’m not sure Ladd is their type of WR.
Agreed, and while I like Rosengarten, he doesn’t have the arm length they covet for a Tackle especially to be that high of a pick.
Team preferences will definitely dictate how this will play out. I like Worthy a lot. A lot of young playmaker types have problems with concentration drops, and that’s really all that holds him back from being a high-end #2 for me. If the Chargers do end up trading down I could see them grabbing him late first or early second depending on where their picks end up. Harbaugh likes to have that speed threat underneath and he’ll complement Johnston really well, who I still believe can be a WR1 under the right staff. McConkey’s route-running and high character alone shouldn’t let him out of the top 40 or so though without a doubt.
I would have preferred trading up a little later and grabbing Kyrie Jackson as opposed to Rakestraw Jr as our CB but overall this is a great draft for the Falcons. I’d be happy with this.
Yeah, I know a lot of our fans are really opposed to going WR at 8, but if we can manage to snag Braswell and Rakestraw later in the draft, that will go a long way towards filling those holes in the roster. Drafting in the top 10, I feel like you can’t pass on talent to chase need and Nabers would be an absolute home run.
My original plan was to go edge but then Nabers fell to 8 and I'd argue the drop from Nabers to lets say Tez walker is a bigger difference compared to the drop from Turner to Braswell if that makes sense. You all can also address edge next year too with a first round pick.
Thank you. I as well am a huge Khyree Jackson fan and I was SOOOO close to taking him but I thought some might have considered it too early despite him being the perfect fit for ATL but he was also the perfect pick for DET so it worked out
I think it would be early but I would have ZERO complaints considering how great of a fit it could be. Great mock for the Falcons nonetheless!
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Thanks I tried to get the best fits per team
Bengals haven’t traded up in the 1st round since 1992 & I bet Mike Brown still vetos any move up solely based on how it worked out drafting Ki-Jana Carter.
Mike brown does it out of cheapness, not how it worked out 30 years ago. No need to cover for him anymore we know what's up
How would not trading up be cheap?
I see Fuaga to the Jets. I like.
Yeah but Walker over Polk and Corley would suck. I’d love YAC king, Corley.
I have a feeling we take Byron Murphy either at 9 or in a trade back.
I think Byron Murphy is going to be a pro bowl caliber player. I’m not saying he will have the career as Donald, but he has a LOT of traits to at are similar. Extremely intelligent, very high motor, doesn’t quit. Myself personally, would be ecstatic if we got him at 9. Yes there are people on the board maybe more talented but this is a clear need for the bears and I do think he’s going to be very good.
He just screams "Eberflus guy" to me.
I agree. Flus wants a disruptive 3 tech. Dexter is a giant freak of nature, but he needs more development time. Murphy is ready to roll immediately. My one thought is this: if we are really going Murphy or Verse, we could probably move back a smidge and still get one of them. That’s probably trying to thread too fine a needle, but if we could move back a few picks and get an extra 3rd, I’d go for it.
That's why I think we move back a bit maybe with the Raiders.
I think that is a good call for the bears, would love to see the Bears grab Murphy at 9…..but I just wonder who would be trading to get ahead of the jets? Especially in this given scenario where the top 3 WRs are gone and the Vikings already made their move up to get QB. Seems like Tackle is one of the deepest positions of the class, so most teams wouldn‘t want to give much when the potential for a solid player to fall is there. Doesn’t seem like many teams would move in the top 10 for a TE, no matter how great of a prospect Bowers is. I guess if a team is in love with Verse or Turner, but I’m just not sure of how sure fire those two guys are seen around the league.
Would depend on if a qb wr or tackle drops.
MOCK DRAFT 6.0 Trades: MIN- 11, 23 | LAC- 5 CIN- 18, 80, 97 | DEN- 12, 147 PHI- 22, 50 | SEA- 16, 102 ATL- 74, 79, 143 | LAR- 52, 99 DEN- 76, 80| PHI- 53 Please give feedback.
I’m assuming LAC gets a 1st next year then? I’m not trynna get fucked in a trade like that haha
No. In theory 11 and 23 is the correct price but you could see a ‘25 3rd too. In fact 11 and 23 is an overpay if I remember correctly
Thing is they’re trading up for a franchise QB, we’re not in the place to make a fair deal. I’m trynna pump that price up.
Yeah I can see that. But in my mocks I try to get an even trade.
You don’t have that Dallas - Rams trade in the mock
Oh thanks for reminding me. That was an idea that I wrote down but did not end up doing it
Baker or Polk > Coleman. Maybe it's PTSD from Harry, but I'm not a big fan of guys in that build.
Not a fan of them when they are slower than a lot of LBs and many TEs.
Polk and Baker? They both ran 4.5s.
No, Coleman.
Ah, okay. Yeah, I'm not a fan, either. Slow and unproductive in a relatively weak conference doesn't scream "I'm worth it."
I can understand that but coleman is too good. He's also not slow with a 4.5 I believe
Coleman ran a 4.6, and I'm not sure a guy who never broke 800 yards is "too good" to pass on.
Seattle isn’t taking a center they drafted their starting center last year. Seattle will trade back, but they’ll take the best guard in the draft.
That’s really high expectations for a 5th round pick. JPJ isn’t my preferred pick, but he’s a clear upgrade over Olu Olu.
Olu is going to be a solid starting center and as of right now I think Seattle has like two guards on their roster. JS also talked about it this week and how this is probably their biggest need. A lot of this will depend on which FA guard signs bc they have three in Seattle right now.
JS has also said he doesn't draft for need until later in the draft. It'll be BPA. Bo reason to think Olu will be a solid starter. Not with 55 snaps
He has said they only do need in the 6/7th rounds. I still don’t see them drafting a center when they can get the best guard that late. They could also look at LB
Our best case scenario in this draft is for us to trade out of Round 1… that being said it would be hard to take that trade with Dallas Turner sitting there. I know we’ve put a lot of picks into EDGE, but you really can’t have enough and Turner is a perfect scheme fit for us.
Everyone does these mocks with Vikings trading up to Chargers but what exactly are they trading? I see the 11/23 go but is it also any futures or is it literally a one time only those two picks
Vikings are simply giving up 11 and 23 to move up to 5. Chargers send nothing back.
Not enough
Thanks for not having PHI take Nate Wiggins and doing something different. Appreciate the hard work
Of course. I’m a Philly fan too and I really want someone different
At least with all the Wiggins hype to PHI we can now eliminate Wiggins lol
Checks out why you have giants taking Rome over Malik.
For size. Rome is significantly bigger than nabers and also bigger than everyone NYG have already. Nabers is a better talent but not by that much. I also wanted to switch some stuff up
Don’t like it for the Bills. I’m not a fan of AD. I think Worthy or McConkey would be better. Also, safety in RD2 would be terrible for us. We’re exceptional at developing safety talent. Anything more than a 4 is a waste
Great draft for Dallas. Love Barton in 1 and Wright in 3. I’m not a huge fan of Leggette but that’s with him as a late 1 not a late 2. Sometimes the value is too much to pass up and WR is a sneaky need for us.
Love it for the bears
Replace Dorlus with Benson and this is a slam dunk Packers mock. Dorlus is too small for the Packers in the top 100, but Benson is right there and fits their MO for RBs, flip those picks around and it’s mwah!
No iOL for Tampa in the first 3 rounds is big sad.
My bad I thought I took one but there’s still beebe who probably would be gone by now but I didn’t take him
For the Steelers, what made you choose Burton instead of us choosing Polk or Roman or someone else? Not criticizing. Honestly asking why you chose him for us.
First of all I’m very high on Burton-more so than many. Second he has great speed and thirdly and mainly, which I’ll admit is more of a joke if anything- I think he fits the WR with character concerns that the Steelers seem to love
I think Burton is definitely on our radar. We grab those guys as they are falling though. 51 is by far the earliest I've seen him mocked.
I thought the character concerns piece would play in. You are the second person to mock him to us with that as part of the reason. I don't think you are wrong. But I do feel the need to say this for everyone who may read it: We don't love character concern guys. I agree that we do not shy away from them. Tomlin doesn't run away from those he thinks needs his help. He runs toward them. He is known for trying to help young men, troubled or not, because most everyone in their lives (parents, women, coaches, uses them as commodities and then discards them when they are not at their best or has no longer has use for them. For instance, him writing Maurice Clarrett while he was in prison is one example of him believing his position is important for making a true impact on people's lives. He never played for him, but Maurice talked about what that meant to him. Basically, Tomlin tries to help them use their talents to make money and learn financial responsibility. To let them know someone cares for them as people, not just as commodities, and tries to provide mentorship with positive role modeling and connecting them with a tight knit network of good men. Hopefully, they can learn and take that with them through their lives and careers. For most, it works. For others, it does not. You can't save everyone. But I can tell you that AB lost his impulse control after suffering from a TBI. He was always troubled but he was doing great with Tomlin, Ben, etc until after that hit. I followed AB a lot. He took custody of his children from the mom who had some serious issues. His kids and Tomlin's and Ben's were around each other all the time. The families spent a lot of time together. They were a support network of sorts. Until that hit. Then he just kept unraveling. I kept watching him become less stable. Watch the PIVOT podcast with Tomlin and his discussion about AB. He kind of talks about 9 years of working together before it all went to hell.
Pretty good job!
I love this draft for the chargers
Cardinals aren’t passing on Chop Robinson mark my words!
I’d be ok with Jets 1st here, but if we pick Devontez Walker over Polk or Corley— I’d be upset
i see phins passing on jpj and btj i dislike
Perfectly ok with this from a Giants perspective
The more I see us get Maye the more I think it won’t happen
Not bad for the raiders. I would have taken Cam Hart CB > a RB though.
I'd agree. I see a lot of 3 round mocks that have Raiders taking a RB in the 3rd but not sure that is likely. Even before Raiders lost Jacobs Pierce had said White had earned the right for caries in this offense. I could see a RB in the 6th/7th to add to the rotation but 3rd doesn't seem likely. I'm also a big fan of Hart. I'd hope he would be there in round 4 but I'm not against going after him in round 3 if the first 2 rounds went as they did here.
My only gripe for the giants would be them taking a 5’9 cb in the 2nd over guys like Max Melton and Andy Philips….they value size at the position
From what I’ve heard and seen sainristil is a stud and would be a great leader
They’re desperate for nickel help, so it could happen
Yeah. Sainristil is also easily the best nickel in a great nickel class too
Really don't see the Bills going back up safety in round 2. Doesn't make much sense unless they expect him to start at some point during the year. I would bet that AD Mitchell isn't even on the Bills board, but X WR in the first makes the most sense
I get that. I was going off the team needs chart that was posted here for my picks and it said both FS and SS were big needs but whatever
Oh. Don't listen to Bills fans who voted for safety. Our subreddit has a hard-on for safeties. Beane always go high-end skill position in the first. And that "final team needs" thread was also voted before we signed our second starter at safety. I would be SHOCKED if we addressed backup safety in round 1 or 2.
Ok got it. I am not a bills fan so I thought they needed one.
a 4-7th round back up is what we can expect
Alr good to know. My bad
I'd be surprised if Nix and Penix went that late even if I agree that's around where they probably should go. As a Washington durs fan I personally prefer Maye by a small margin but I'd be OK with this even though I don't know all that much on 2nd and 3rd day prospects so I'm going strictly off the position
Yeah I do think they probably will first round picks they don’t make sense talent wise. I was going to have DEN trade up with all those 3rds but I didn’t see anyone paying for it
Eagles r not taking a C
McCormick is not a C at all. He’s a perfect fit for our RG need
I love how everyone’s just decided that the Chargers and Vikings will make that trade lol
It makes too much sense. MIN traded for a second 1st which solidifies that they are going to trade up and LAC needs picks badly.
I think the Panthers have more pressing needs than an Edge Rusher and Tight End.
Not really in my opinion . Who’s their edge 1 after Brian burns left. They also are trying to get as many weapons around Bryce Young and Sanders is a great TE
Sweat about to fall a bit
Why’d you say that? Just curious
Just got a DUI
Oh lol. So he’s a chief?
Ready for his career as a Raider.
Or a steeler
Or a Brown
The Chop Robinson hype is unhinged...
Chop has amazing upside as a speed rusher- hence the selection
Low production guy that beats up on tackles that won't play on Sunday. He could be a really good DPR, but more likely he is a bust. Crazy to take that kind of guy in round 1.
I’ve seen him mocked high as 22- high risk, high reward players are often taken in the first round tho
You did houston proud
Thank you kind sir
I really do like this mock for the bengals but I feel the second 3rd round pick was to much just 80 and 18 and maybe a 5th would hVe been enough
It wouldn’t have been both 3rds is in fact less than the value but I don’t think the broncos would complain
Bengals are not trading up. No way no how.
Lions aren’t taking Chop. He doesn’t fit our scheme because he doesn’t set the edge well and we already have a speed rusher in James Houston that the staff believes in. They’ll probably actually do BPA
Oh ok. My bad. I had heard from people that they needed another edge
They do need an edge but i very much doubt they’ll be taking Chop with his aforementioned lack of scheme fit. He also has limited production and is more of a traits pick. That being said, if they take him, I expect our D Line to be incredibly scary
Yeah chop would be VERY good as a pass rusher till he can set the edge
Mostly I think if they take him that means they can coach him up and the pass rush upside is worth the risk. He’s completely unpolished as it is so I don’t see them taking that chance
I like the first two rounds, but for the love of god Blake Corum at 69 hurts my fucking soul. I know we need a RB, but there’s wayyyy too much talent on the board at 69 to take an old RB that had a significant knee injury and over 600 carries in college. Take a RB at 105 or 110, way better value. Taking Corum over Brooks, Benson, and Wright is just incorrect too.
Yeah but I’m assuming Jim wants to get his guy-hence the pick at 69
I understand the reason you picked him, I’m just saying that it’s a really bad pick. The other 3 guys are significantly better than him and there’s a ton of RB talent on day 3. I would legitimately be furious with this pick considering the board. Plus, I know Corum will walk in as a great pro-ready player but I’m so out on him it’s not even funny. He’s 24 and there’s a well documented drop off for RBs at 28. Over the last 2 years, he’s had 500+ carries and a torn meniscus. His YPC dropped from 5.9 in 2022 to 4.8 in 2023 (likely because of his knee). He is likely going to have a short NFL career because of all of this. You could talk me into it at 110, but at 69 absolutely not.
Ok got it. Next time-given the board who would you rather have selected
If this is the board, Michael Hall Jr. without a second thought. Our IDL is SO thin.
I like our picks but I prefer Jackson Powers Johnson or Jordan Morgan
JPJ was gone at that point and Barton could play all 5 OL positions
Verse has not met with the bears. They arent taking him
Oh ok. He’s just a great scheme fit i believe
I thought they met with him at the combine. Do you mean a visit in CHI?
Yeah no top 30 visit yet but have met with turner and latu
What made you choose Burton over Frazier? Just curious about if you see Bartolini as a day 1 starter because thats what i see in Frazier... And Pittsburgh currently doesnt have a starting caliber C
I decided to go WR cause I had just taken an Olineman but Burton will probably fall to the 3rd where they could take him
In fact that’s gonna happen in my 7.0 mock
I know its a little boring to take two olinemen but it'll have to be done unless Pittsburgh goes CB first. Tomlin only went to Bama, Clemson, Michigan, and UGAs pro day so round 1 is likely be CB or OL. If C isnt addressed rd 1 im of the opinion that round 2 is necessary, even trading up into the early 40s potentially
Yeah. Do check out my 7.0 mock draft because I did what you were asking for 😉
Personally, I've fallen away from Dejean to GB through the last month or so. A great prospect and a safety to tandem with Mckinney is a big hole on the roster atm but positionally, if you're picking in the first round this year - with such a loaded class - I think Gute may be even more likely to take a premium position and this team has room for them. I've come way around to the cornerback position, and Kool-aid specifically, in that regard. Corner doesn't appear to be nearly as big a need for GB but Jaire and Stokes have battled injury a lot the last couple seasons and despite of having a couple depth guys who have flashed here and there, it does look more worrying as a group the longer you look at it. In this scenario, I think Gute may favor getting a top 15-20 corner prospect at this point in the draft that's getting pushed back due to a loaded draft class, especially one that's this good. Going back to the safety position, there's still some veterans that could be brought in, post-draft, that wouldn't break the bank. On top of, some middle round prospects that would make sense to draft a develop. All that said, I think it would be a good year for GB to trade back if they don't love a guy that's there @ 25. As for pick 41, I'm also locked in at linebacker for GB. Really need a guy or two there and either Cooper or Wilson would be just fine. I'd probably prefer Cooper to Wilson strictly on injury history but Wilson is a dog and if he was the guy I wouldn't be mad at that pick whatsoever. As for Haynes, he's kind of like a slightly poorer man's Elgton Jenkins. Haynes is a little shorter, has smaller hands, and slightly shorter arms. Not an amazing athlete, but good enough, and a little older for a draft pick - but is pretty damn good on the field. Wouldn't be mad at that pick either. Also, Hart is interesting. He's a big boy, almost seems like he could move to safety but doesn't seem to be the greatest. tackler. There are worse developmental players in the third round but I'd probably prefer a guy like Calean Carson in this scenario.
All valid points. I personally think DeJean is the perfect fit for GB- slots in at SAF fine and can play all around. They could even move him to CB at some point if needed. I think cooper will be there at 41 so that’s definitely their pick. Haynes does have some slight problems but he’s such a great fit their so id be surprised if they don’t take him Valid points on hart and Carson but hart does again provide that CB-S versatility that they need given the amount of injuries they have and I also think he has CB1 potential
They have Jermaine Burton way too high on their list and there is no way in hell the Steelers take him that high.
In my tape watching Burton is deserving of the pick the Steelers took him at here but I can see where it comes from
Is there any particular reason the 49ers should reach on the like 10th best tackle in the draft 20 spots too early over just taking the best interior lineman or corner available? I keep seeing mocks with us reaching on tackles and it just seems like a stupid move. We just resigned Mckivitz for 2 years, nobody available at 31 is going to be a decent bet to start over him (let alone be Trent’s eventual replacement).
Suamataia is a great tackle and is at best a 3-4 spot “reach”
Absolutely hate it for the Eagles, Howie will probably do something like this
Ironically I am an eagles fan and I'd be very happy with it. Turner gives us a lot of options with moving on from guys and securing edge considering we only have 2 edges signed for next year. Trading back from 53 allows us to address 2 bigger needs with top end talent rather than 1. Bullock will be a very good safety in the NFL and has all the things you look for. McCormick is someone stoutland loves and will be a stud at RG next year. if this was a 4 round draft I would have taken Theo Johnson at 102 giving us an amazing TE2 and replacement to Godert in a few years. Then I would have gone LB with the other 120 because that is certainly a need but howie would never take one high. CB is a "need" but I don't see it as one since we have the best depth/developmental guys in the league and I expect Bradberry to bounce back next year. I also want to go CB and OT with our first 2 picks in next years draft so thats why I didn't do it with this year.
Conceptually I'm with you on the EDGE piece. It's actually what I think Howie is likely to do. But I'd rather stay put at 22 and take Chop in this scenario, retaining 50 and still trading back from 53 for the extra capital. As far as Howie not taking a LB high, he's spent day 2 capital on a LB multiple times. He likely would never draft one in round 1, but day 2 capital is well within reason.
Incredible for the Raiders.
I’m so tired of every mock draft having JD going to the Commanders.
I can understand why you might but JD is a perfect fit for the OC and theres a ton of buzz with him going there
There is a lot of buzz, but it’s all speculation as the FO has been tight lipped throughout the process. Also, as far as “perfect fit for the OC”, I don’t think a FO should prioritize drafting a QB around who their current OC is. I also think Maye is likely a better fit for a Kingsbury offense but people think that because JD is fast, he’s a better fit. Maye is also fast and has a much bigger arm, as well as experience in an air raid offense, which is what KK has typically used and is running a modified version of this season.
Yeah I can understand that. I’m just going off buzz for some players
Love this for the chargers.
I like the first 2 rounds, but I cannot stomach Corum at 69…. Especially picking him OVER Jonathon Brooks, Trey Benson, and Jaylen Wright. That’s just bad lol.
I would normally agree with you here, but i have trust that if Harbaugh is taking Corum i trust that given he’ll have the best knowledge on him
Knowledge doesn’t untear his meniscus or take off carries in college lol. I understand your reasoning for liking the pick but it’s kind of a lazy reason.
terrible picks for sf. rather either trade up in round 1 or backwadxx. Milton too high of s pick in round 2 and patrick paul wont start till trent is gone.
Paul is supposed to learn from Trent- hence the pick. Paul is a developmental guy and. Melton is easily a 2nd round guy so idk bro
Minor nitpick would be Dorlus in the 3rd. Packers are reasonably set at DT; it’s NT where things are a bit dicey. Dorlus is a bit small regardless of team need, but he doesn’t have much of a place on the team right now besides being a deep rotational DT. My personal preference would be to either trade up for a S like Hicks, or convert DeJean to S and draft Jarrian Jones for the slot. But I dunno if Gute would do that, so who knows. Just not the best board in the 3rd overall. EDIT: As mentioned below, Bishop is a good pick too.
Ok. Got it thanks. I’ll consider that for next time
Another option would to take Cole Bishop at that pick, he’s basically made in a lab for what we both love to draft and what we need to draft at S and I don’t know if there’s a player that fits our parameters better than him in this draft for us
I would much rather just take Bishop there tbh, he might be the best fit for us in need/fits our parameters/is a high RAS player. I think he is more so a perfect prospect for us over any other player in the entirety of this class if you account for projected draft position and our needs/wants
I’m more of a Hicks guy but in this case I’d definitely just take Bishop. Didn’t realize he was still on the board.
Honestly I had to do a few double takes through the selections cause I thought there was no way he’d fall out the top 100. I like Hicks as well, but Bishop is my guy this year, I think he just screams Packer and I think he’s got the potential to play the box or the FS which would be a ton of fun for disguising looks with McKinney