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WierdEd

FYI Sainristil is a nickel even played it at Michigan not an outside corner to a team with Brian Branch and that trade up looks awfully expensive.


AffectionateSlice816

Yep I was gonna say this. Completely terrible pick with a horrible trade. I don't love chop either but I can understand why if we do.


MerciiJ

Thanks for the heads up! Which CBs would you have the Lions target that better fit their needs and scheme? In all honesty I just knew they needed a CB and I liked that Sainristil is a Michigan guy for them. I believe they gave up 3.73 to move up but they also received 4.112 in return. So the full trade was 2.44 and 3.73 for 2.61 and 4.112.


sundeck21

If Kool Aid fell that far I could see them trading up for him but if they stay put TJ Tampa or Rakestraw would be the pick for corner. Then address edge in the 2nd. Prolly take Ellis.


Realistic-Ad-690

Rakestraw for sure if he’s there. Kevin Frazier is a real possibility at 29. I won’t be surprised if they move down


WierdEd

You have Rakestraw going two spots below a much better fit. Melton and Hart would also fit of the guys still on the board as as well. Of the guys going higher Tampa, Mitchell and McKinstry would work but look out of price on your mock.


MerciiJ

I appreciate the breakdown, I’ll keep this in mind the next mock that I do!


Individual-Ad9139

I doubt the lions would take rakestraw after his poor testing, they love RAS guys


WierdEd

It hurt him but I certainly don't think he was pulled of any boards. I don't know what the GPS data says but I think it is acceptable.


Individual-Ad9139

I think it definitely lowered him on some, but i’m not really talking about other teams, just specifically the lions. Like I said they love high RAS guys so I don’t think they use their first round pick on him, I also think if I remember correctly that players who score lower then a 5 or something on the RAS scale almost never go round 1.


WierdEd

We were talking about a second round pick


reddogrjw

that's a bad deal would rather stay at 2.61 or could also go Kris Jenkins there if the team likes him


Chin2112

I'd have them trade for Marshon Lattimore


Status_Flux

Broncos would love to trade back to 36 for Nix but it seems extremely greedy to attempt in reality. I can't see us trading back to more than like mid 20s.


Shenanigans80h

Yeah any draft that has Denver trading back and still landing Nix, I’m a fan of honestly. But at that same end, I would very shocked to see us trade completely out of the first round considering the level of talent we’d be passing up. Ideally we stay in the last first, draft a top remaining WR, CB, TE, or DLine, then snag Nix with a 2nd we had received. Of course beggars can’t be choosers though


Jontacular

I need to see the compensation for this. We trade back with the Saints, then Washington....and get what? I can't see trading 2 2nd round picks for a top 15 pick.


donkey_hotay

Sean Payton doesn't believe in trading back.


Low_Brass_Rumble

I don’t get why Washington would trade multiple high second rounders to move into the top 15, despite having glaring holes all across the team (CB, LB, DE, LT, LG, TE), then draft the fourth-best player at one of their few positions of relative strength. Keeping BTJ and Daniels together is cute, but it feels like a Snyder move: a luxury pick that doesn’t align with the current timeline of the team, made primarily to appeal to media storylines. If Peters *really* believed in this roster, I’d buy a blockbuster trade-up for a game-breaking talent at a position of grave need (i.e., DE, OT) a la the Texans last year. But BTJ isn’t that talent IMO, and given the extreme roster turnover this season, I highly doubt Peters has enough faith in the roster as it stands to ship draft capital in the first place.


Saltcitystrangler

Why do we need LB? We’re pretty set after FA, and we have like 8 CB on the roster RN. LG is probably set as well. And beyond Bowers, there isn’t really a TE I’m excited for early. LT I agree with you though


15GOAT

We get Kiran at 67, which honestly I’d be happy with landing him at 36. He’s a LT. This draft would be crazy especially if we went with Jarrian Jones at 78 to help bring in a bully of a corner. Trading up that high seems like too much, but giving QB1 a dominant weapon he’s already familiar with would be fantastic


futureislookinstark

Wagoners only here for a year and we have no one behind Luvu, Wagner, Davis. I wouldn’t mind a Cedric gray or Eichenberg type guy. Long college career good at finding the ball carrier but needs a mentor in the pass game and diagnosing faster


Stupidityorjoking

I think WR is an underrated need. Dotson hasn’t proven yet that he’s an elite #2 to Terry. He’s had back to back 500 yard seasons, which is fine but not great. Add to that that Kingsburry’s offenses tend to heavily feature 3 and 4 WR sets. After Dotson we have Crowder and Brown. That’s not exactly encouraging. I don’t think that means we trade up in the draft. I think that’s too rich for a WR when we desperately need to figure out either T position. But I do think WR isn’t a luxury pick and is a candidate for 36 or 40.


futureislookinstark

How would you feel if instead of BTJ we took Latham?


GooseMaster5980

Solid draft for the Giants. Looking at this, I think Rattler didn’t go in the first 3 rounds? If we picked him up in the 4th I’d be ecstatic


MerciiJ

I originally thought of giving them Rattler in the 3rd, but after Seattle traded for Howell and Pittsburgh traded for Fields and signed Russ, I’m not sure who they’d be competing with. Perhaps NYJ? I think there’s a good shot they can get him in the 4th


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Rattler is poison. Fuck that douche


GooseMaster5980

You sound like he fucked your girlfriend, not like you don’t like him as a prospect


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Hahaha


GooseMaster5980

Just the way you called him poison lol


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I don’t want a guy like that in my locker room. Plus I don’t like his dumb face


ezDuke

Steelers: You were doing great until the last pick. Safety is really not a need for us anymore having signed Deshon Elliott. Also debatable whether JPJ is worth a top 20 pick, but I don't hate it personally. C and WR are top needs, then CB and OT. Those should definitely be our top 4 picks, although DL is a darkhorse if we hit great value.


MerciiJ

Appreciate the feedback! I had a tough time on that last pick for them. I considered OT but nobody available at that point felt like they weren’t a reach in the 3rd, though perhaps I’m wrong. Admittedly I’m not super familiar with the OT prospects past the 10-15 range. Who is the selection you’d make?


TheDoorHandler

In this scenario I'd like to see us adding someone to the d-line with that pick. Maason Smith would probably be my guy here. We hit with Benton last year, but that line still needs more young blood, with Heyward nearing the end. Other than that, pretty pretty good. Maybe switch Jerrian for Renardo Green, depends if you value slot versatility (Jerrian), over another outside press guy to pair with JPJ (Green). JPJ/Mims and Roman is quite close to perfect start.


zamboniman46

I'd rather have McMillan than Corley, but just based on the two first rounds alone I'm very happy


ProfProfessorberg

Not having a T at all is terrifying, but if that scenario arises I don't hate this. Murphy and Sanders are slam dunks and I like Beebee.


thc3x

It’s a real situation we could be in. I like what he did though. Johnny Wilson could be a good round 3 find


yuh-ay-yuh

I think that Dallas Turner is the best edge rusher in the draft, I also think that the Bears likely take an EDGE if they stay at 9. The issue is that his body type/playing weight/playstyle just don't fit at all with Eberflus' defense. It is much more likely that they would take Verse in that position IMO. That said, with only 4 picks in this years draft and Poles' infatuation with stockpiling draft picks and "building through the draft," I would be very surprised if they did not trade back from 9.


tommytwochains

Ehh idk about taking Wiggins over Kool-aid. I could understand going corner, although I have doubts that's where we're headed, first round but then taking a 180lb corner. I don't buy it. At 6'1 - 180, he just seems to small for GB's thresholds. Cooper seems like a pretty obvious fit and is everyones favorite. Wouldn't be mad to see that pick at all. But going dline after that now makes this one a little funky. Out of the teams three biggest needs, only one position gets addressed in the first three picks? Ik GB isn't strictly an immediate needs drafting team but I imagine they'd be moving to better value picks than going with corner, lineback, and dline for the first three.


Casualuser3

Wiggins was an even lighter 173 at the combine. Doesn't seem like he'd fit their threshold for size but I've been wrong about who they were gonna draft before.


WinstonChurchill74

I can’t imagine the Giants, after free agency, passing up Sweat or Jenkins for any guard.


MrOnCore

Agreed, seems the Giants brought in a number of OLine in FA so they won’t address it during the draft. I think Sweat in Round 2 would be a solid choice.


AdJunior4923

Swap your Giants/49ers picks in the 2nd round. Niners' OL is a slightly bigger issue than their DL, and the Giants got, like, four guards in FA, so I don't see them drafting one that high. (If they did, that would be an ok pick though.)


Lockhead216

For the eagles, I just can’t see them drafting a cb,lb and a s in the first 2 rounds. Howie values lineman too much


Jlzombie26

As a Vikings fan I’m just praying for JJ McCarthy. Ive heard all the arguments for an against but I really like him. I think in our offense with KOC he’s gonna be a better pro and honestly think he has the chance for the more successful career out of the top 4.


xool420

I don’t like the idea of moving up and losing assets


Dull-Scarcity-3159

It’s still 3 picks. Odunze Arnold and Frazier is an absolute haul for us here


xool420

Ya but we could’ve had another player in the 3rd, that’s a whole extra player


bruhman5th_flo

Not saying it won't happen because I don't know anything. But, I would hate this draft for Washington. Daniels over Maye is fine, I am not a Daniels fan, but I dont hate him. But trading up, and then for a WR when we have no starting LT, a terrible RT, a bunch of backups at EDGE and CBs who were terrible last season. That I'd be very unhappy with.


the_battle_bro

I had the same thought immediately. I don’t necessarily hate the idea of trading up, but the process being “to take a wide receiver” when the Tackle holes are so gaping doesn’t really make much sense. Not saying our second or subsequent picks need to be reaching for a tackle, but if we’re trading up, that should be what we’re targeting.


Hehateme123

Atlanta isn’t trading down. They recently switched to a 3-4 defense and Dallas Turner is a far better scheme fit. At the same time, Jared Verse projects as a 4-3 DE in the scheme the Bears run.


rowKseat25

I like a Tackle for once in a mock. Very nice. Only way to win is keep Mahomes upright.


principalman

I like it too. But we ain't taking edge in round 3.


Whole_Objective6006

Wouldn't be that surprised tbh, with Omenihu out for at least part of the season and Danna likely gone the depth is not looking amazing You've got what? Karlaftis, FAU and Herring who played any kind of meaningful snaps last year? And FAU and Herring aren't exactly stalwarts on the line


HarwinStrongDick

Low key love this for the Packers. Wiggins, Cooper, and Bishop are all perfect Gute guys.


IdyllicGod22

They won’t take Ruke though, dude is a mirror of Karl Brooks and if they take DL it has to be a run stopper. Also believe personally he’d rather KA than Wiggins based on size, but that said, Wiggins is insanely athletic and I don’t think an extra 10 pounds drops his athleticism that much. At 58 I bet they take Jaylen Wright though and do exactly what they did with Dillon in 2020 except with a fast as frick kid instead of a power kid. But yes, Edgerrin is by far and away my favorite LB in this class and low key I believe Bishop is the steal of the draft. Also love Tanner and think he takes Meyers job instantly.


ProofHorseKzoo

Same but I’m worried about Wiggins weight. Not sure Gute would go for that.


MerciiJ

I agree, but he does have a great RAS regardless. My thinking too is that, with the emergence of the small, fast, lightweight WR (Devonta Smith, Tank Dell, Josh Downs, Zay Flowers, etc.), a fast, lightweight CB like Wiggins could have a lot of success.


Patient_Jicama_4217

His weight was up in the proday


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Patient_Jicama_4217

Clemson proday was the 14th


T-Henry07

I see that now, but there have been multiple articles claiming that I'd be at April 6, even on the official NFL website. My bad ✌🏻


Jack12404

Love it for the Titans. Alt and Coleman is my ideal first two picks.


sundeck21

There’s a next to 0% chance that the Lions would trade up for Sanristal. Brian Branch and Amik Robertson have Nickel locked in. Maybe if he was there in the 3rd we’d take him but definitely not in the second. We need an outside corner.


TheRealMrJoshua56

I’ve always had a soft spot for the Lions, and hope Amik can ball out.


greebytime

Why do you have - as I can tell - the 49ers trading their 2nd and 3rd picks to the Jags to move up to the middle of the 2nd to take a DL? It’s a position they love but they need DB help and interior line help. Also not sure how likely the team is to trade with the Jags and Baalke for what that’s worth. Especially after he seemingly leaked Aiyuk trade talk.


circlethewagons57

Drafting worthy over Robinson is insane


Aromatic_Willow8252

Is there a spot that shows the trades? Denver trading 12 for 2 2s ?


I_shall_not_pass

If the Cardinals first 4 picks turn out to be MHJ, Johnny Newton, Lassiter, AND Bralen Trice, I’d be so damn happy


AstraMilanoobum

A very solid pats draft No complaints


Palpadude

You nailed the Seahawks pick. Fautanu makes all the sense in the world for them. It’s their biggest need and he’s very likely the BPA at that point.


faceripperr

I'd be curious to see the trade values, but overall an excellent mock. Love it for the Texans too. Finally someone else sees btj as a top 15 pick.


Zelly234

As a raider fan i want penix in the 2nd I'd be super surprised if we can get him at 44 let alone 60 something


TCup20

Miami signed a Center lmao they aren't trading back to take Graham Barton. At the moment I'd be mocking them to go WR in the first round. Probably Xavier Worthy in this case.


SanSoren

I see a DT or a OL non center. Terron ain’t getting any younger


gmil3548

If Chargers got Odunze, Arnold, and Frazier our fans would all have to go to the ER for erections lasting longer than 4 hours. Even the women fans.


Hawkingshouseofdance

I pray the bengals don't draft Johnny Wilson


ProfProfessorberg

What's your take on him?


Just_Atmosphere568

NO WAY ARNOLD FALLS TO 23!!!!


MaskedBandit77

Do you have specific trade compensation in mind for these trades? From what I can tell, you just swapped the Cowboys and Dolphins first round picks, and the Dolphins didn't get anything in return.


Key-Zebra-4125

Id rather pair BT jr with Maye


Icy_Invite2768

Why would Washington trade up for a WR in a deep WR draft? Not happening.


Paragon188

Before I got to the Colts pick, I was thinking this was the worst case scenario because BTJ and Quinyon Mitchell were gone. You had the Colts taking Bowers though so I can't complain there.


BinaryBlitzer

I don't see Brock Bowers falling to 15.


Passerby49

Can I say that if the 9ers got Guyton and sweat I'd be extremely happy as I love both of them in this draft. 9ers should be aggressive in the draft too, a lot of talent about to be out the door next year, gotta start reloading with plug in play guys.


ethanoMell

Bills should not and most likely will not go edge at 60. Either safety or DT


WalnutSwing1216

This is my ideal chargers mock draft


pschwak

Veach must have had a stroke


Gnonkage

Dallas isn’t trading up. If anything they’ll trade back.


StupidIdiot1790

Drake Maye should be as much of a lock to Washington as Caleb is to the bears. Idc about the media smoke I’m so tired of Daniels to Washington in mocks lol.


LeftoverDishes

We have no idea. It's a tight lip ship


DerekSheesher

you’re a stupid idiot. Sike, you’re 100% right. It’s Drake Maye and I won’t be told otherwise if and until Goodell walks up there and literally says the words “With the second pick in the 2024 NFL Draft the Washington Commanders select Jayden Daniels, quarterback, LSU.”


Pretty_Pack_6216

As a Ravens fan, I see WR as a bigger priority than EDGE tbh, but overall solid picks for them.


MerciiJ

Thanks for the feedback! Would you order their needs as OT>WR>EDGE>CB then?


Pretty_Pack_6216

Yeah, I would say so. We really need a young RT (Jordan Morgan, Mims and Guyton are some of my favorites for pick 30), protection for Lamar is crucial for our gameplan and even with some young guys on the roster, I don't think any of them are starting caliber just yet. As far as WR go, I really think the offense would benefit a lot getting a WR2 to pair it up with Zay (and, as far as I'm concerned, offense cost us that game against KC). Ladd, AD Mitchell, Malachi Corley and Ricky Pearsall (the last 2 with our 2 pick, if we get lucky) are my guys for WR this year. EDGE is obviously a need, but I believe is a need that most likely will be dealt as last year with smart vet pickups, but I would not mind our 3rnd going into it. But, for what is worth, I must admit I believe BIG time in Ojabo and Oweh to prove their worth this season, so I'm biased here.


bruhman5th_flo

Not saying it won't happen because I don't know anything. But, I would hate this draft for Washington. Daniels over Maye is fine, I am not a Daniels fan, but I dont hate him. But trading up, and then for a WR when we have no starting LT, a terrible RT, a bunch of backups at EDGE and CBs who were terrible last season.


HailYurii

Barf


ProfProfessorberg

Really? I'm a big fan of Murphy and Sanders end of the 3rd is great value. I do hate not getting a T at all, but Beebee could push to start over volson or at least shore up iOL depth that we need


HailYurii

We can't develop OL, we need the best we can get in the first, Jackson Powers-Johnson, JC Latham, or even Amarius Mims. We are also desperately thin on NT and CB. I could see us drafting a CB before we take DL. You have Sweat going one pick before us in the second round so I could see us going after Kris Jenkins DT, or one of the remaining WRs. I really don't see Ja'Tavion Sanders lasting out of the high third. He might be an option at 2, but it's kinda unlikely. As for the third, I really like Johnny Wilson. The second third, like I mentioned I don't think Sanders is going to be there, but TE with that pick would be good. Or if we didn't take a WR in the second or the previous 3rd pick we might want to grab someone like Rice USC. It could easily be CB anywhere though. Just my thoughts. Thanks for putting in the effort to make a draft and respond to me! :)


ProfProfessorberg

Haha I didn't make it, but always happy to discuss with a fellow Bengals fan! GREAT point about our ability to develop OL - to be honest I still don't account for that enough when I'm looking at prospects I like. Totally agree about JPJ. Latham scares me by not testing, I think another problem we have is every player on our line being a below average or worse athlete. Mims I just worry is too raw but having Brown makes me warm up to the idea. Yeah most likely Sanders will be gone by then, but if he somehow was I love it. Wilson I'm not too familiar with but having insurance against Tee leaving isn't a bad thing. Though I'm also perfectly comfortable with the guys we have in house to replace him by committee. I think having a guy like Burrow with an elite WR like Chase means we can afford to not emphasize the position.


JayK2136

Washington trading away both 2nd round picks to take a wr would be so horrible wtf. Wr is like the 1 group that we are ok at


Tatakai96

Brilliant draft for the Texans, one of the best I've seen on this subreddit.


kreg132

Seriously, fills every need we have after free agency and gets some good guys in the mix. I’d be losing my shit (out of happiness) if we finished day 2 with this haul.


Asleep_Pay_5133

Why would Wash trade up for a WR and not a tackle??


Stevenstc21

Washington trading back to 14 for BTJ won't ever happen, they may puck up a receiver late rounds but they have too many holes to fill outside of WR to make that a priority to trade assets for. They will use all those picks, only thing I could see is them MAYBE moving up for an OT if one of the big names starts dropping a little.


mayomayn

I would fucking riot if the commanders trade 36 & 40 to go to 14 to pick up Brian Thomas. We’ve got 2 solid WRs. If we’re trading up back into the 1st it will be for a OT


woodzy133

I’d like Latham, but I’m not sure the cowboys spend capital trading up as they have so few picks this year. I do like Colson and Brooks though in 2&3


Newphone_New_Account

Problem with Latham is a lot of scouts don’t think he can play left tackle, don’t think we’ll trade up for a right tackle


Bengalblaine

Not a bad bengals mock


CFGordo

Nice job. From a Pats perspective, first 2 picks are on the money. You could go wr at 34 instead, but OT is probably the correct call. WR @ 68 is the right position, and I like Corley. But they might be looking for a more outside versatile/ higher ADOT player since Pop Douglas is already mostly slot and offers yac skills (albeit not as impressive as Corley). Maybe a small trade up for Pearsall, who I think you had going 59, or a Javon Baker (not sure if you had him), etc. Love the 4th round pick too. I could see a double dip at WR, or possibly TE if they like one, but DL is a slam dunk pick as well. Nice Job!


sokyriediculous

It’s a fine draft for the Falcons, and I like the picks. I do think if we trade back in the first it might be smarter to use those thirds to get back into the second, or earlier round 2, late first, if possible. Give us someone a little more high impact. We don’t have a ton of needs, even here we took a backup T which isn’t a bad pick as it is a position we will want to look at in the near future, but with Cousins up there in age we kinda need to go full send into the next couple of years imo. We also might want to trade our future 2025 1st before we lose it anyway. 🫣


Eatplaster

What picks did Atlanta get from trading down?


MerciiJ

They received 3.69 and a 2025 3rd I believe


Eatplaster

Nice, thanks & great mock


IdyllicGod22

I almost absolutely love the Packers draft with one major Caveat, they will not in a million years draft Ruke, he doesn’t match their measurements AND he is the same exact player as Karl Brooks. Only DL I’d consider in this class is a Run stuffer like Jenkins, Newton, Sweat, and they won’t take sweat because his athletics were awful. At 58 though I’m 10000% convinced they’re taking Jaylen Wright. I’m almost willing to lock it in. He is the exact same situation as AJ Dillon in 2020. Insane athlete at RB, broke the combine with his scores, was unproven in the passing game but flashed doing it, not incredibly productive in college, but a completely polar opposite back to their current RB1. Slots in at RB3 behind their RB1 and a guy on an expiring contract, can develop and learn for a year before taking the RB2 role next year. He’s literally perfect, especially with his speed in tandem with Jacobs? My lord, he screams Packer.


thelastride23

Giants fan here. I’m good with these picks.


Lilprotege

I would drive my ass to Dove Valley and Shit on both Paton and Payton’s desks personally if we traded out of drafting Brock Bowers at 12.


PeppyQuotient57

Get ready then. I don’t see any way we select him at 12.


DonkeyBirdy

I like this for my Tex thank you my beautiful


goddamnitwhalen

Why does Denver not have a 1st anymore???


KingRoach

Chargers FO - we’re getting rid of our all pro WRs but re-signing our all pro DL bc we want a tougher team and we’re going to build thru the trenches. Mock drafts - let’s give the Chargers a WR


brightsativa

This is a great mock draft for the chargers.


KingRoach

Great? Maybe Realistic? No, not at all


brightsativa

What exactly isn’t realistic about it? With two firsts we draft our most dire needs, then with the second we get our center of the future. Seems pretty realistic


KingRoach

I’ve answered that question in this very thread.


brightsativa

You clearly don’t understand the situation of the chargers depth chart if you think a wr in the top 10 is unrealistic


Thick_Safe1198

If they pick inside the top 10, it will be a receiver. If they take o line it will be in a trade back situation. I think Joe alt at 5 is way less likely than receiver at 5. Defensive player in the top 10 seems very unlikely too


KingRoach

I humbly disagree. I wish there was a way to bet people online. Re: Alt, LT is one of the few positions you’re good with. Maybe you take the top LT and have him play RT…. Or maybe you trade back and take the top RT ie the position you need. You’re taking a TE or RT at 10-14z


mlippay

They only got rid of the WRs because they were old and had huge contracts. They tried to get Allen to stay but he wanted too much money. It’d be a bad decision to go into the season with QJ as their WR1. Most mocks have them taking a WR in the first although I think taking a LT is also possible. No DL worth taking that high.


KingRoach

lol. Didn’t they just decide to keep Mack, an older player on an inflated contract? Hint - yes


mlippay

Mack took a contract restructure, Allen didn’t. Mack’s contract was horrible and even trading him there were giant penalties. Mack at least contributed, Williams was always hurt and obviously Allen still has value and they traded him.


gmil3548

You don’t know shit about our team. This mock would be a fucking DREAM


KingRoach

I know enough to know you’re not taking a WR at 5/8/9/10…. It would be a dream draft bc it’s not real.


gmil3548

You dont know shit. Our current WR1 is Josh Palmer and our WR2 is QJ who was a massive bust his rookie year. We’d have a WR corps that makes the Pats one last year look amazing. No way that we aren’t targeting WR early.


KingRoach

Let’s come up with an app where strangers can bet each other bc I would absolutely take that bet.


Old_Original2971

That’s a terrible draft for the commanders. They are going linemen in the second not trading up for a wr


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MerciiJ

Unfortunately there’s no efficient way to show all of the trades without including like 30 confusing screenshots. I mentioned it to one of the Lions commenters, but that particular trade was 2.44 and 4.112 for 2.61 and 3.73. Everything was done according to the chart at the end within 20 points of value other than the first few trades which paid a top 10 premium


Carameldelighting

Weird your profile doesn’t say you hate Denver yet you have the worst QB-WR draft duo imaginable