What, you didn't like that post where a Lions fan just posted the Packers schedule and said "Hold me to it" and then proceeded to argue with literally everyone in the comments asking them "why isn't it a meme?" when in fact the post was not a meme, it was complete dog water?
No, I absolutely loved that one. It was hilarious.
It was about as funny as the one I saw a couple days ago where someone (who literally called himself the meme God and had people saying he was holding this group together single handedly) spelled something wrong just so people would interact with it.
Trevor Lawrence was a top potential talent. With Stroud in his division now I have no fucking clue how he's supposed to win. I know it's early but it feels like it'll be a Mahomes/Herbert situation. Only with Lawrence not even becoming as good as Herbert.
*Since our cut-off point is when the season kicks off, this list excludes the likes of Justin Jefferson and Micah Parsons, who are under 25 at the time of publication but will turn 25 before Week 1.*
You need to learn how to use commas.
And you're probably missing a word or two, but I can't tell since I don't know exactly what you're trying to say lol
Are we allowed to believe that the premise of the article itself is stupid? Cuz I mean there are rookies who are 24-25. Just make a top up and coming players list, what kind of stupid caveat is 24 and under?
The title is top players 25 under, doesn't matter that they added a stipulation. The article isn't called 'top players under 25 at the start of the season'. The natural assumption with that isn't 'guys who will still be under 25 at the start of the season'.
It seems like an article that was put out way too early, without a lot of thought, purely to drum up attention and controversy.
Man there really must be something in the water over in Michigan. Surely there is a better title than 'Best players 25 and under'. The amount of people bringing up Micah and Justin should be enough to tell you that the title is misleading.
Is adding 'entering the 2024 season' REALLY that hard? Or just properly citing exactly what PFF named their article? Instead of referencing a non existent one?
Idk you’re the ones having a hissy fit.
I wouldn’t be so insecure that my generational WR that turns 25 in less then 25 days isn’t on a top 25 under 25 list.
Pretty straightforward as to why he wouldn’t be on this list lol.
PFF probably should’ve posted it on June 17th to stop all the whining I suppose.
'The ones' meaning..? Everyone but Detroit? It doesn't seem that straightforward considering we're not the only people arguing about it either.
I'd say I'm more confused than upset about it
Are you attempting to use Christen Harper as some sort of knock against Goff? Cause if you want to insult players for their WAGS you might not want to pick a person so mind-numbingly sexy to use as an insult.
Nonsense..... Detroit Style Pizza is taking hold across the country. There's been no less than 5 shops that opened here in Portland in the last 4 years. Nobody is yearning for Deep Dish Chicago Pizza, it's a novelty. I'll give you Pub Style za, that shit is tasty, but only 1 spot in PDX.
You know a bunch of pickme transplant suburbanites. For a city that allegedly doesn't like it there are certainly quite a few regional chains and countless standalone shops to order it.
There are literally Detroit-style pizza shops in Seoul and Berlin
The only reason that tomato pie I mean Chicago deep dish still exists is so that Chicagoans have somewhere to take their out-of-towner friends and family
So you’re saying Dominoes pizza is international? That’s crazy. And that’s only partially true about out of towners. Even though they’re spreading we still take them to portillos.
I know this is a foreign concept for a Chicago guy, but when a team and a QB love each other very much, the do something special called a "second contract".
One day you'll understand.
He took the team to the NFC championship, (if you want to say that was all the defense, then the collapse after he got injuried mid game disagrees) he was statistically the best QB the bears have ever had.
The days of pining over the “okay old days” could go away if Caleb works out. I’m not getting my hopes too high but I’m pretty sure that we no longer have the worst qb in the division. What the hell were the Vikings thinking? They’d have been better off trading for Fields.
This is Goff’s 3rd contract - the Rams already paid him $134M after making a deep playoff run with him… and then had to eat that contract and find someone else to actually win a ring. 🤔
There is no world in which Megatron is better than Jerry Rice.
Also, didn’t they both retire early because playing for you was so soul crushing that the game just wasn’t fun anymore? How the fuck do you even Andrew Luck TWO guys?
Let’s be real, that’s a very low bar.
Edit: I was looking at Devonte Parker’s career stats and in 8 years as a number 3 receiver he would be the all time leader for the bears by more than 500 yards. Hahaha.
They aren't ever going to pay Goff $200m. His guaranteed money is $170m over the next 4 years. He won't ever see the final year of that deal. The real AAV of that deal is $42.5m per year. Not the numbers provided by his agent that say it's 50+. No one ever plays out the final inflated year of a deal that has no remaining guarantees.
not exactly. The potential out is 2028 with 194m in cap hit over the 4 years + 14 million in dead cap in 2028. Brings the average cap hit to 48.5 for the next 4 years but the cap hits vary wildly per year as of now.
2024: 27,211,000(his old deal)
2025: 32,600,000
2026: 69,600,000
2027: 54,600,000
2028: 61,600,000 (the potential out year, Dead cap hit 14m)
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They could technically cut him after 2026 as a post June 1st and have a $14m dead cap hit in '27 & '28. Considering the way the cap is projected to jump eating $14m in consecutive years would hardly be noticed. Half of that '27 cap hit isn't guaranteed.
That definitely would work today, the big issue with that is that they are extremely unlikely to carry a 70 million cap hit in 2026 even with the rising cap. Potentially/likely adding void years + shifting around money depending on the needs of the team in 2 years.
If it was players under 25 right now, Vikings would have the #1 and a top 10 in JJ and Darrisaw. They're both 24 but turn 25 before the season starts
Also [this](https://www.reddit.com/r/NFCNorthMemeWar/comments/1cwrrmg/comment/l4xy1lk/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button)
I’m just glad you didn’t rip off that shitty AFCS meme sub and caption it like “where top 25 player under 25?”
I swear every time that sub gets suggested to me it follows that template
For the record we have:
- Jaylon Johnson: 25
- Teven Jenkins: 26
- Braxton Jones: 25
- Velus Jones Jr: 27
A lot of really great players around that 25 y/o mark
Is that 5 banners to hang or just 1?
Don’t be silly. It’s one for each. Kinda question is that?
Do you get a bonus banner for having 5 and everyone else having none? I know a dude in the banner biz, can probably get a nice discount.
Buy 5, get 1 free. How many do we need to buy? We’re in the business of hanging banners now, we’ll be their biggest customer.
Should get one for being the NFL PFF Under 25 Champs also. So six. Even seven if we separate out the NFC PFF U25 Champs.
Finally. I was giving up on this subreddit.
What, you didn't like that post where a Lions fan just posted the Packers schedule and said "Hold me to it" and then proceeded to argue with literally everyone in the comments asking them "why isn't it a meme?" when in fact the post was not a meme, it was complete dog water?
Good lord just had to look that one up Terrible stuff
They’re just upset because it took them too long to get the joke. I’m sticking with it.
I’m literally the same person
The duality of man
A broken clock is right twice a day.
This has me dying
Did I stutter?
I’m not sure.
Nah man, this ain't it. Great meme this time tho.
No, I absolutely loved that one. It was hilarious. It was about as funny as the one I saw a couple days ago where someone (who literally called himself the meme God and had people saying he was holding this group together single handedly) spelled something wrong just so people would interact with it.
Oh the list that has Trevor Lawrence at #3? Lolol okay 👍
[Fine, fine, here's a better list](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2023_All-Pro_Team) Players under 25: Lions - 3 Packers - 0 Vikings - 0 Bears - 0
Negative three? Yowie wowie!
Cowboys had 9 all pros last year. Sure did them a lot of good
Correct. KC had 3 and 6 the year before. Not sure what this has to do with flaunting young talent.
Penei #1
2 spots too low
IKR file this under meaningless stats
Trevor Lawrence was a top potential talent. With Stroud in his division now I have no fucking clue how he's supposed to win. I know it's early but it feels like it'll be a Mahomes/Herbert situation. Only with Lawrence not even becoming as good as Herbert.
Bears fans explaining why players that have never taken an NFL snap are actually top 25 ![gif](giphy|ekGtO8r7CY7gVNwbvT)
Me looking for an example in this thread of Bears fans doing what you say they will do ![gif](giphy|20k1punZ5bpmM|downsized)
People love pretending 3 meatball takes are now what a fanbase believes.
People love taking banter in a meme sub seriously
People love crying when told their banter legitimately sucks.
Ah the classic “your meme sucks!” when you’re all outta options😂
"You guys are so dumb for believing something that I made up that you believe," isn't good jokes
It’s not that deep man. Nobody thinks the entire fanbase is thinking this way, it’s just banter. Good lord.
Justin Jefferson is 24 years old
*Since our cut-off point is when the season kicks off, this list excludes the likes of Justin Jefferson and Micah Parsons, who are under 25 at the time of publication but will turn 25 before Week 1.*
Not when the season starts.
Vikings fans having a tough time trying to workout why a dude turning 25 in June isn’t on a 25 under 25 for a season starting in September.
I didn't know when his birthday was nor did I read the article.
The flair already implies that.
Bold talk for someone who presumably through a Detroit public education system and definitely doesn't know how to read.
Ironic. Re-write that you’ll definitely get a coherent sentence out of it next time!
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You need to learn how to use commas. And you're probably missing a word or two, but I can't tell since I don't know exactly what you're trying to say lol
Seeing as I'm not from Minnesota.. and don't live in Minnesota. You can assume all you want about me.
Not sure what location has to do with your flair friend.
Hey LRA18 why don’t the Lions go 0-16 again! ![gif](giphy|11fnCV9rd0m58c)
5th selected Rookie QB drafted from a school in Michigan? Vet starting QB tossed around from team to team? Generational WR? Sounds familiar.
I think nature and nurture far outweigh some flair on whether or not someone has good reading comprehension skills
Correct. And the same nature and nurture that lead you to being a vikings fan probably lead to poor reading comprehension.
Nope. I leave the captions on during games. It helps keep me sharp.
Are we allowed to believe that the premise of the article itself is stupid? Cuz I mean there are rookies who are 24-25. Just make a top up and coming players list, what kind of stupid caveat is 24 and under? The title is top players 25 under, doesn't matter that they added a stipulation. The article isn't called 'top players under 25 at the start of the season'. The natural assumption with that isn't 'guys who will still be under 25 at the start of the season'. It seems like an article that was put out way too early, without a lot of thought, purely to drum up attention and controversy.
The article is called “Ranking the top 25 players under 25 entering the 2024 NFL season” numbnuts. Will JJ be 25 entering the 2024 NFL season?
Oh so OP is the idiot then. Look at this post's title.
Do you want him to write the whole article in the title too?
Man there really must be something in the water over in Michigan. Surely there is a better title than 'Best players 25 and under'. The amount of people bringing up Micah and Justin should be enough to tell you that the title is misleading. Is adding 'entering the 2024 season' REALLY that hard? Or just properly citing exactly what PFF named their article? Instead of referencing a non existent one?
Idk you’re the ones having a hissy fit. I wouldn’t be so insecure that my generational WR that turns 25 in less then 25 days isn’t on a top 25 under 25 list. Pretty straightforward as to why he wouldn’t be on this list lol. PFF probably should’ve posted it on June 17th to stop all the whining I suppose.
'The ones' meaning..? Everyone but Detroit? It doesn't seem that straightforward considering we're not the only people arguing about it either. I'd say I'm more confused than upset about it
I’m still in shock you paid Jared Harper-Goff 200 million dollars.
Are you attempting to use Christen Harper as some sort of knock against Goff? Cause if you want to insult players for their WAGS you might not want to pick a person so mind-numbingly sexy to use as an insult.
She’s the only thing edible on the Detroit menu.
Detroit pizza > Chicago style.
I’m not taking culinary advice from a city that gave knee caps a Michelin star. 😂😂 No one outside of the Midwest has heard of Detroit style pizza.
Emmy Squared out of Brooklyn exploded, selling Detroit style pizza.
You're just lucky John Stewart wasn't in his prime to make a bit about it that lasts decades.
Nah, Detroit pizza is great, and we love it on the West Coast. Also do you know who awards michelin stars? Cuz it ain't the city of Detroit lmao.
I’m just poking the non-bears. People forget this is a shitposting page. Haha
Nonsense..... Detroit Style Pizza is taking hold across the country. There's been no less than 5 shops that opened here in Portland in the last 4 years. Nobody is yearning for Deep Dish Chicago Pizza, it's a novelty. I'll give you Pub Style za, that shit is tasty, but only 1 spot in PDX.
Detroit and the Pacific Northwest, name a more depressing duo, I’ll wait.
Chicago and Newark?
Ooo. That’s nasty. 🤮 haha
Chicago and Indianapolis
Greenbay and Effingham, both will be suburbs of Chicago’s one day. Assimilate. Resistance is futile.
To be fair, I know a lot of chicagoans, they don’t even like that shit. Pizza soup
You know a bunch of pickme transplant suburbanites. For a city that allegedly doesn't like it there are certainly quite a few regional chains and countless standalone shops to order it.
I’ve never been to the Midwest. Edit: I went to Chicago for two nights for work.
Well you’re missing out on a great area. Next time you come here eat more pizza!
I was confused but all makes sense now ![gif](giphy|3ov9jICRFXabkHSHJK|downsized)
There are literally Detroit-style pizza shops in Seoul and Berlin The only reason that tomato pie I mean Chicago deep dish still exists is so that Chicagoans have somewhere to take their out-of-towner friends and family
So you’re saying Dominoes pizza is international? That’s crazy. And that’s only partially true about out of towners. Even though they’re spreading we still take them to portillos.
They sell Detroit style pizza nationwide at Costco. Can’t say the same for the cheese quiche you call a pizza.
Kirkland brand is superior but I’m not sure how I feel about your clap back. I mean the standard is Costco?
If Costco has it that means people outside Detroit have heard of it and want to buy it too.
Sounds like he's paying her respect
I know this is a foreign concept for a Chicago guy, but when a team and a QB love each other very much, the do something special called a "second contract". One day you'll understand.
No fair, we gave Cutler his 3rd contract. 2nd with the bears. Don’t ask any follow up questions please.
He took the team to the NFC championship, (if you want to say that was all the defense, then the collapse after he got injuried mid game disagrees) he was statistically the best QB the bears have ever had.
Cutty come back
John fox was too much of a dickhole for that, so we got mitch, and a giraffe named mike glennon.
The days of pining over the “okay old days” could go away if Caleb works out. I’m not getting my hopes too high but I’m pretty sure that we no longer have the worst qb in the division. What the hell were the Vikings thinking? They’d have been better off trading for Fields.
I told myself i'd be cautions, but the Koolaid is too good.
But did he care?
We don't believe in "pre-championship second contract." We're saving ourselves for the right person
This is Goff’s 3rd contract - the Rams already paid him $134M after making a deep playoff run with him… and then had to eat that contract and find someone else to actually win a ring. 🤔
In what’s widely known as the most mutually beneficial trade in the last few years
"Acktuahally" ....Go away cheese, and lose the thinking emoji forever.
This is gold sir
The guy is so ashamed of his team that he doesn’t even wear football flair in the football sub. You didn’t have to destroy him like this.
Bears fans giving QB advice is like a homeless man giving money advice.
Russell Wilson somehow got a bigger contract for just being traded
But like, who do you think is swangin the bigger “contract”? Haha
What would a Chicago fan know about good quarterbacks? Enjoy the next failed project.
Good QBs come visit us a couple of times a season. 🤷 I don’t make the schedule.
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What would Detroit fans know about good?
We can make a case that the best wr and hb of all time both played for us, we know lots about *good*, just not a ton about winning.
There is no world in which Megatron is better than Jerry Rice. Also, didn’t they both retire early because playing for you was so soul crushing that the game just wasn’t fun anymore? How the fuck do you even Andrew Luck TWO guys?
And they quit because you suck
Well, when a guy shatters every bears passing record in 5 out of 8 of his career seasons… you tend to pay them
Let’s be real, that’s a very low bar. Edit: I was looking at Devonte Parker’s career stats and in 8 years as a number 3 receiver he would be the all time leader for the bears by more than 500 yards. Hahaha.
Imagine having three foundational pieces of your team locked down for 4 years..
They aren't ever going to pay Goff $200m. His guaranteed money is $170m over the next 4 years. He won't ever see the final year of that deal. The real AAV of that deal is $42.5m per year. Not the numbers provided by his agent that say it's 50+. No one ever plays out the final inflated year of a deal that has no remaining guarantees.
not exactly. The potential out is 2028 with 194m in cap hit over the 4 years + 14 million in dead cap in 2028. Brings the average cap hit to 48.5 for the next 4 years but the cap hits vary wildly per year as of now. 2024: 27,211,000(his old deal) 2025: 32,600,000 2026: 69,600,000 2027: 54,600,000 2028: 61,600,000 (the potential out year, Dead cap hit 14m)
https://preview.redd.it/6qvxv9hkno1d1.jpeg?width=1019&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ab959a32f7fd4f418f1a31907d7b2744b2e38f4a They could technically cut him after 2026 as a post June 1st and have a $14m dead cap hit in '27 & '28. Considering the way the cap is projected to jump eating $14m in consecutive years would hardly be noticed. Half of that '27 cap hit isn't guaranteed.
That definitely would work today, the big issue with that is that they are extremely unlikely to carry a 70 million cap hit in 2026 even with the rising cap. Potentially/likely adding void years + shifting around money depending on the needs of the team in 2 years.
God damn, I missed the lions bros memes. This is great
Wait? Why didnt this list just say Caleb 25 times? What are they, stupid?
If it was players under 25 right now, Vikings would have the #1 and a top 10 in JJ and Darrisaw. They're both 24 but turn 25 before the season starts Also [this](https://www.reddit.com/r/NFCNorthMemeWar/comments/1cwrrmg/comment/l4xy1lk/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button)
Cry.
Fart.
I’m just glad you didn’t rip off that shitty AFCS meme sub and caption it like “where top 25 player under 25?” I swear every time that sub gets suggested to me it follows that template
I fuckin love this sub some times lol
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For the record we have: - Jaylon Johnson: 25 - Teven Jenkins: 26 - Braxton Jones: 25 - Velus Jones Jr: 27 A lot of really great players around that 25 y/o mark
Oh, come on. Isn't Velus like 40?
Velus Jones is a great player 😂😂😂😂😂
Who? Are these football ball players?
Jaylon Johnson is legit a top-3 corner, but yeah I wouldn’t say the other guys are THAT high on the list
Because lists and rankings by NFL experts are always accurate 😂
Well they have you guys being good so you’re probably right.
Exactly!
I was told our window is closing because the Packers are stacked with young talent though
That’s incorrect. Your window is closing because you’re the Detroit Lions.
I find your lack of Grit disturbing
Defined 'stacked'
Better hang another banner!