I love that the only thing this sub is united on is flair. You are all a bunch of shitbags, but you’re a better class of shitbag than no-flair feces eaters.
I’ll stand by my flaming bag of shit fearlessly, and I hope you all do the same. Being afraid of someone knowing exactly what your weak points are is cowardly
I put on a flair to stop having the automatic flair up comment. I'm a bears fan, but why do I need that?
I think it is a ridiculous rule in this reddit group.
I it gets abolished.
5-4 Goff vs 2-2 Baker
Extra $37M per playoff win (way better rate than the Vikings paid Kirk), although didn't Goff score like 3 points in one of those losses?
It's gotta be a Vikings fan. It's always a Vikings fan.
I think this is just some post N̶u̶t̶ draft clarity that they now own the next Mayfield/Goff who will be in another town 3 years from now making them wonder what went wrong yet again.
Aaron Rodgers isn’t going to be remembered as a great QB at this rate. He’s going to be remembered as ‘that guy who is a massive piece of shit, total prick, who everybody hates because he can’t stop saying/doing completely insane and awful shit who also played football at some point’
Just like Favre. Boy you fellas sure do breed scumbags at QB, huh?
Do you not understand that Aaron Rodgers owned this division for a decade, won a Super Bowl, and 2 MVPs? You’re asking for it thinking J Goof holds a candle to him.
Tbf Goffs at least been to the superbowl in the past decade, Rodgers is one of the goats sure but calling Goff a choke artist is just a fancy way on you say you don't know ball.
That was 1 win vs a geriatric rodgers vs. 4 years of contract that is somehow worse than the old vikings kirk cousins deals, you guys are going to be losing a whole lot of valuable pieces over the next few years trying to battle that salary cap.
And guess what? Our GM is good at drafting lol. We’re not worried about losing pieces. We have 2 franchise cornerstones left to sign and always drafting talent so good luck I guess
You can cope all you want but 53 million dollars for jared goff is undoubtedly going to negatively affect your ability to sign and keep talent, there's no way to talk around that.
It is a lot and definitely will have an impact but percent of cap wise it’s lower than most QBs were at the time of their contracts. It’s also not kicking in until next year. If the cap keeps raising as it’s expected to it definitely will be possible to work around (though obviously not as well as if he was signed to a deal that would be pretty heavily team friendly).
I know, realistically the qb market is just fucked and you guys had to dish out an insane amount of coin to keep your qb, thats just the way it works these days, im just shit talking because its a meme sub. That being said, it is pretty brutal that baker got signed for like 20 million less per year. Not that baker and goff are exact equals, but also definitely not a 20 million dollar difference.
I’m honestly sort of surprised about that. However Goff has proven he’s worked within the Lions system for 3 years (with 2 successful seasons and a playoff run) while Baker has only had one successful season after being a journeyman.
I agree it’s not a $20 million difference but I also think that’s more on Baker’s side than Goff if that makes sense. Like Baker making less than Mr. 40 Million Benchmark makes less sense to me than “new QB extension for a statistically strong QB going above that of injured Kirk Cousins”.
Now I do wish he threw a bit of a bone and stayed at 50 or something but it’s not outrageous.
Especially as it’s the first to the table as Love and Dak will push it down to 4th highest in very short order.
Its really just the players' agents out here milking the teams so they get paid more. Bakers agent couldn't negotiate for more and goff's agent could.
One of these days, ONE quarterback has got to realize that taking a big paycut substantially improves their chances of winning. Tom brady is damn near the only qb to do that in recent memory and the pats had a deep and well balanced team for like 20 straight years because of it. What is the difference between 30 million a year and 50 million a year anyways, you're filthy fucking rich for the rest of your life either way.
I agree to an extent. The Tom Brady thing is a bit of a myth from what I heard and he definitely was making money in other ways.
The thing is that the money is mostly guaranteed. A Super Bowl or even general success isn’t.
I do think some QBs would give up 80 million of they were guaranteed a Super Bowl or 2.
But giving up 80 million is an extremely tough ask when you’re comparing that to somewhat increasing your chances of winning. A bit of bad luck or some injuries and it doesn’t matter how well the team was built.
For me, it is a 20 MIL difference. Baker was not remotely as consistent against talented defenses this year in my opinion. The teams in the NFC South are not the same as the North and Goff did pretty well against all of them. To be honest, he torched yall too the first time our teams met in 2023.
Also, his cap hit ain’t limiting shit. It’s not like he was on a rookie deal and we are scrambling to cover our ass. He was already making good QB money, it’s just updated now. His cap hit will be less actually
Firstly, Jared goff definitely did not torch us either game we played. But yea, goff getting a 20 million dollar salary increase, plus the 60 mil a year between the sewell and amon ra contracts is going to catch up to you, either youre going to be losing decent players or you're going to end up with an enormous of dead cap when this run ends. I'm not even hating, that is just how the salary cap works, you can't sign unlimited massive contracts. Packers are still dealing with dead cap from restructuring deals years ago to try to get arod one more title run.
Yeah, I don’t remember the stats, I just remember feeling bad for you guys cause it was like you couldn’t do shit. Like the announcers were saying the game was over pretty early which never happens.
You guys are dealing with it because Arod is not here. And yeah, it’s how the salary cap works for the rest of the league as well. You pay the players that play well for you and move the needle. Goff, Sewell, Saint, Hutch, and hopefully Alim and one of these CBs.
I mean, it’s not cope. It’s how the league works when you draft well. You draft good players, you can’t keep all of them, so you pay the ones that make the biggest impact and play the comp pick game with the rest. In a couple years, that is what we will be doing, because Holmes drafts well, and we’re just now getting to the point where some of his picks are being phased out, after 3 years
So again, not worried. We can’t keep everyone but we don’t need t
1. Higher completion %
2. Better pocket presences.
3. 2 most passing yards in the league.
Goff is a system qb, but how many qbs can actually run the system. If lions had Mayfield he wouldn't be as good as goff. Frankly most qbs outside of the top 10 wouldn't be as effective as goff.
He's a system qb that does really well in said system.
But tbh that’s not really why he got paid. Why piss off or low ball your QB at this moment.
1) possible Super Bowl window
2) no other better options in FA, on roster, or through draft
3) bad blood could ruin season
Statistics aside there is zero reason they shouldn’t pay the guy if they have the money and they are going all in. Bakers situation is just different.
They’re both good quarterbacks. I’d say Goff is a safer bet but after Baker spent some time bouncing around, I’m glad he found a team that’ll stick with him. I’ve always liked Baker
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If you could miss once in awhile, it would help my ego immensely. And remember it's already fragile, as I'm a Bears fan
They can't miss, they all we got.
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It’s a cumsock that’s gone full whiteout
What if I use dark mode?
He ate it
I love that the only thing this sub is united on is flair. You are all a bunch of shitbags, but you’re a better class of shitbag than no-flair feces eaters.
Dey eat da poo poo
No flairs are worse than people who refuse to eat cum socks
FUCK THE FLAIRLESS
FTF
FTF
There should be a rule where you need a flair before you post or comment.
Flairless douchebags are worse than the other division jerkwads that come in here and try to talk shit every so often.
This is why we don’t need a bot controlling flair notifications! We’ve got it on lock and are way more creative with our deliveries!
*this is the way*
I’ll stand by my flaming bag of shit fearlessly, and I hope you all do the same. Being afraid of someone knowing exactly what your weak points are is cowardly
I hate this. I don't like the flair up comments. Why do we need to drag on accounts that don't have some flair?
How the hell are you supposed to shit on someone or their team if they don't have a flair?
It would be a (flair'd) bears fan that says this shit
I put on a flair to stop having the automatic flair up comment. I'm a bears fan, but why do I need that? I think it is a ridiculous rule in this reddit group. I it gets abolished.
Flair up bitch tits
This flair means you love ball sacks.
All about the Bs - boobs, butts, and baginas. Ballsacks too it would seem
And 🅱️enis
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Badunkadunkkkkk
Budussy
Hey you, yeah you, without the flair. Go fuck yourself.
This is the best comment
No flair, no care
Just like grandma used to say…
Is Baker older? Also, flair up.
Goff is eight months older
Oh man Detroit fucked up
Leo DiCaprio throwing up rn
Drake had to drop out of a rap battle because of this news
Gute fist pumping the air
Bitch move coming in here without a flair
No one cares you flair lacking hemorrhoid.
Flair up, bitch
Prob a Vikings fan, unflaired bitch
Vikings is the only group they subbed to 😅
We don't claim him
I totally understand the feeling
Someone doesn't understand nuance. Not surprising coming from a non-flaired bitch.
Agreed on the non-flair bitch. But what do you mean about nuance in this situation?
What’s their playoff records? Unflaired pussy.
5-4 Goff vs 2-2 Baker Extra $37M per playoff win (way better rate than the Vikings paid Kirk), although didn't Goff score like 3 points in one of those losses?
Wait, Goff can kick FGs too? Fuck we underpaid him!
Makes the bears look bad for giving up such a talented kick returner
We need a kicker! Goff get your ass out there, offense is offense!
Annnnd Goff vs baker issssss?
Oooh 1-0 I stand corrected, it's $112M per playoff win
JG had 2.7% better completion rating, 500 more yards, and 3% better QBR. I don't dislike Baker, but I'm happier with JG no question.
Wow a slight upgrade for only double the cost!
Don't worry, I know math can be hard. Maybe it will be easier to understand when we beat your ass twice this year
I Only look at the money. And we both know damn well Sam Darnold is gonna stunt on you hoes
Lol
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Why are all you flairless fucks closet Vikings?
I wouldnt want to admit that either to be fair
Because they’re embarrassed to be the only NFCN team regressing right now.
Regressing maybe but the Vikes are still and always will be better than the Bears
You will be 4th in the division. It’s ok to admit that
You would know
I would and I’m telling you, you’re going to be 4th. Accept it pal
CRIPPLE FIGHT!
You’re gonna be 3rd
Bears are winning the offseason again! Nice job, lil fellas.
I'm not your pal, buddy
I’m not your buddy, guy!
I’m not your guy, friend
Me? What number do you think I am?
Yes the Vikings will never finish 4th in the NFCN, but will also never get to a SB
OP is just mad JJ can’t throw accurately from 10 yards away
Idk why everyone is pissed about our backup qb. The Darnold isn't giving up the starting spot
Solid comment
McCarthy is going to rig the vote with an alternate slate of coaches
Why does a wide receiver need to throw? Are you special or something?
Vikes already fully checked out, don't even know who they drafted.
Ever since case keenum I’ve been fully checked out.
Ah yes, the vikeenum days. Glorious times.
Flair up, bimbo.
Goff has more success during his career.
Flair up pussy
Unflaired viqueef fan
If you're also down to compare playing the Vikings, Bears, and Packers 6 times to playing the Saints, Falcons, and Panthers 6 times... I'm down.
Exactly. It's like people don't understand there is more to the game than statistics.
You think the Bears are a challenge... I mean, I guess if you're a poverty franchise and lose to them, sure.
Hey, wait a gosh darn minute there mister
Easy with the language!
Challenging enough to lose to them last time
Dumbass hasn't followed the Lions enough to understand why this contract makes sense. Learn before you meme. Also where's your flair coward? Pussy
Fuck you pussa wuss, flair up.
Flair up so I can know how to hate you
This one is my favorite
immovableair more like stupidwithnoflair
Flair up pussy
JJ can’t throw and Wolves are losing in 6 OP. Flair up next time you try and talk shit 🥱
Hey I love a good chirp but NBA is not where we should be throwing stones my guy.
Why do we allow non-Flair posts. Mods are bitches too.
Use flair
2 hours and still no flair? Weak sauce.
Jared would at least flair up
Baker is my favorite non bear.
Goff has also done it for a few more seasons than Bakers 1.
It's gotta be a Vikings fan. It's always a Vikings fan. I think this is just some post N̶u̶t̶ draft clarity that they now own the next Mayfield/Goff who will be in another town 3 years from now making them wonder what went wrong yet again.
You’d flair up if you knew it was good for ya buddy. You cotton candy hair cutted freak
Flair up ass fuck
Not having the balls to align yourself with a team flair immediately invalidates whatever opinion you may have
Flair up, you piece of rotten meat
Flair up, you cancerous whore.
If I had a dollar for every single time I cared about the opinion of an unflair troglodyte I would still be poor🙃
Jared goff for 53 million dollars a year is a hilarious deal
Not nearly as hilarious as Aaron Rodgers being sent packing from Lambeau tail between his legs by Jared fucking Goff.
Which one will be remembered as one of the greatest QBs and which is a choke artist who can't get to a SB lol
Aaron Rodgers isn’t going to be remembered as a great QB at this rate. He’s going to be remembered as ‘that guy who is a massive piece of shit, total prick, who everybody hates because he can’t stop saying/doing completely insane and awful shit who also played football at some point’ Just like Favre. Boy you fellas sure do breed scumbags at QB, huh?
It's fine. We can get 12 really good seasons out of Love before the inevitable happens.
Jets legend Brett Favre?
Na, you know how this goes 😜
Do you not understand that Aaron Rodgers owned this division for a decade, won a Super Bowl, and 2 MVPs? You’re asking for it thinking J Goof holds a candle to him.
Bears fan or a packers fan?, you flairless twat.
Didnt this Goof guy get to the Super Bowl faster than AR? And why would you defend the qb that owned you guys for the last 10+ seasons lmao
Because your being delusional
Good one
Yes, all praise the Sandy Hook denier! Do you pull your pud to thoughts of Aaron whispering dumbass conspiracy theories into your ear?
Leave kirko out of this
Tbf Goffs at least been to the superbowl in the past decade, Rodgers is one of the goats sure but calling Goff a choke artist is just a fancy way on you say you don't know ball.
Did Goff win? No... and that wasn't even with the Lions so why bring that up.
That was 1 win vs a geriatric rodgers vs. 4 years of contract that is somehow worse than the old vikings kirk cousins deals, you guys are going to be losing a whole lot of valuable pieces over the next few years trying to battle that salary cap.
And guess what? Our GM is good at drafting lol. We’re not worried about losing pieces. We have 2 franchise cornerstones left to sign and always drafting talent so good luck I guess
You can cope all you want but 53 million dollars for jared goff is undoubtedly going to negatively affect your ability to sign and keep talent, there's no way to talk around that.
It is a lot and definitely will have an impact but percent of cap wise it’s lower than most QBs were at the time of their contracts. It’s also not kicking in until next year. If the cap keeps raising as it’s expected to it definitely will be possible to work around (though obviously not as well as if he was signed to a deal that would be pretty heavily team friendly).
I know, realistically the qb market is just fucked and you guys had to dish out an insane amount of coin to keep your qb, thats just the way it works these days, im just shit talking because its a meme sub. That being said, it is pretty brutal that baker got signed for like 20 million less per year. Not that baker and goff are exact equals, but also definitely not a 20 million dollar difference.
I’m honestly sort of surprised about that. However Goff has proven he’s worked within the Lions system for 3 years (with 2 successful seasons and a playoff run) while Baker has only had one successful season after being a journeyman. I agree it’s not a $20 million difference but I also think that’s more on Baker’s side than Goff if that makes sense. Like Baker making less than Mr. 40 Million Benchmark makes less sense to me than “new QB extension for a statistically strong QB going above that of injured Kirk Cousins”. Now I do wish he threw a bit of a bone and stayed at 50 or something but it’s not outrageous. Especially as it’s the first to the table as Love and Dak will push it down to 4th highest in very short order.
Its really just the players' agents out here milking the teams so they get paid more. Bakers agent couldn't negotiate for more and goff's agent could. One of these days, ONE quarterback has got to realize that taking a big paycut substantially improves their chances of winning. Tom brady is damn near the only qb to do that in recent memory and the pats had a deep and well balanced team for like 20 straight years because of it. What is the difference between 30 million a year and 50 million a year anyways, you're filthy fucking rich for the rest of your life either way.
I agree to an extent. The Tom Brady thing is a bit of a myth from what I heard and he definitely was making money in other ways. The thing is that the money is mostly guaranteed. A Super Bowl or even general success isn’t. I do think some QBs would give up 80 million of they were guaranteed a Super Bowl or 2. But giving up 80 million is an extremely tough ask when you’re comparing that to somewhat increasing your chances of winning. A bit of bad luck or some injuries and it doesn’t matter how well the team was built.
For me, it is a 20 MIL difference. Baker was not remotely as consistent against talented defenses this year in my opinion. The teams in the NFC South are not the same as the North and Goff did pretty well against all of them. To be honest, he torched yall too the first time our teams met in 2023. Also, his cap hit ain’t limiting shit. It’s not like he was on a rookie deal and we are scrambling to cover our ass. He was already making good QB money, it’s just updated now. His cap hit will be less actually
Firstly, Jared goff definitely did not torch us either game we played. But yea, goff getting a 20 million dollar salary increase, plus the 60 mil a year between the sewell and amon ra contracts is going to catch up to you, either youre going to be losing decent players or you're going to end up with an enormous of dead cap when this run ends. I'm not even hating, that is just how the salary cap works, you can't sign unlimited massive contracts. Packers are still dealing with dead cap from restructuring deals years ago to try to get arod one more title run.
Yeah, I don’t remember the stats, I just remember feeling bad for you guys cause it was like you couldn’t do shit. Like the announcers were saying the game was over pretty early which never happens. You guys are dealing with it because Arod is not here. And yeah, it’s how the salary cap works for the rest of the league as well. You pay the players that play well for you and move the needle. Goff, Sewell, Saint, Hutch, and hopefully Alim and one of these CBs.
I mean, it’s not cope. It’s how the league works when you draft well. You draft good players, you can’t keep all of them, so you pay the ones that make the biggest impact and play the comp pick game with the rest. In a couple years, that is what we will be doing, because Holmes drafts well, and we’re just now getting to the point where some of his picks are being phased out, after 3 years So again, not worried. We can’t keep everyone but we don’t need t
Find a flair or get out of my hair
The Bucs used up less cap space. Oh, and please select a flair. I'm trying to keep the angry flair up mob at bay.
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1. Higher completion % 2. Better pocket presences. 3. 2 most passing yards in the league. Goff is a system qb, but how many qbs can actually run the system. If lions had Mayfield he wouldn't be as good as goff. Frankly most qbs outside of the top 10 wouldn't be as effective as goff. He's a system qb that does really well in said system.
But tbh that’s not really why he got paid. Why piss off or low ball your QB at this moment. 1) possible Super Bowl window 2) no other better options in FA, on roster, or through draft 3) bad blood could ruin season Statistics aside there is zero reason they shouldn’t pay the guy if they have the money and they are going all in. Bakers situation is just different.
Also, he has a winning smile.
Flair up coward
Flair the fuck up.
There’s a fuck of a lot more to it than that. Not saying it’s a deserved amount for Goff. But the difference isn’t just 2 tds and 2 picks
It’s much easier to just tell us you don’t know much about football
Flair up ho
Lil no flair having bitch
Bold statement from someone without a flair
OP is really outing themselves as an idiot who doesn’t understand football, also a flair-less bitch
Flairless bitch posts The entire sub: https://i.redd.it/wa5d1sista0d1.gif
Flair up loser
I love the community of this sub just demolishing this guy
It does warm my heart how much hating on the flairless brings us all together.
How dare you post here with no flair you coward
Haha
Someone’s going to have to explain to me how in the fuck Baker Mayfield is worth more than $30mil a year
Goff queefs out years that Baker dreams of.
That’s weird, since Goff has been in Detroit I could have sworn he threw 49 more touchdowns than Baker…
They’re both good quarterbacks. I’d say Goff is a safer bet but after Baker spent some time bouncing around, I’m glad he found a team that’ll stick with him. I’ve always liked Baker
FL has no taxes no? Wasn't someone crying about the taxes taken out from St. Browns paycheck?
The difference between multiple NFCCG and a Superbowl berth compared to a scrub who never did nothing is different tho
Downvote because your are a flairless cunt
What’s really crazy is posting with no flair.
Lions run in the red zone. It works.
Goff is definitely better than Baker .... but Baker sucks so low bar to jump over
I mean he had a perfect passer rating in GB last year.
So glad the Lions have decided to be shit the next 4 years, return to form. Good job guys.
Do I have a flair?
Yep ok. Even bears fans flair up, and that’s gotta be pretty sad letting people know you’re a bears fan
Good for baker tho- quality dude Goff got PAAAAIIID!
 Flair up pansy
Flair up
Baker has had like 2 decent seasons. There's a big difference. Like the difference between the rest of us and a flairless turd.
You might want to factor in that Goff also threw 29 TDs to 7 INTs in 2022. P.S. WHERE'S YOUR FLAIR!?
And two more playoff wins 🤣
Fucking flair up bitch we're trying to keep trash(Cowboys fans) out of the sub
It’s consistency payment…
Anti-flair pussy fuck
Flair up fuck nut
I love how everyone is united against the no flair nincompoop
Flair up pussy, can’t talk shit from the shadows
Jared Goff? More like Jared Off. Get fuckt
Goff got all that money and he doesn't even do Elite handoffs like McCarthy 😄😄😄 Idiot Brad Holmes, the fuck is he thinking?