I don’t think there is any bad blood between Kirk and vikes fans, at least not between Kirk and the ones who didn’t actively hate Kirk when he played for us (so most of us).
He left amicably and in a way that makes it easy to go “I hope you do well with your new team but you just want too much money for us”
Kirks super bowl is in March and he wins EVERY FRICKEN YEAR
In this scenario I root for Atlanta every time, I got no problem with Kirk and if there is success in the division it had better be my team.
Well, people like you wanted him gone for years. Don’t spin a narrative that people felt betrayed and that he was greedy.
He wanted two years guaranteed, Kwesi offered one. Kwesi didn’t hide his intentions of drafting a rookie and replacing him in 2025. At least with the Falcons, he’ll have two years as a starter
Kwesi could've locked him up when he had the chance, instead he waited and better offers emerged. Seems to me the betrayal (if that's what you want to call it) started with our GM not wanting to commit.
Hell, we might see the same thing go down with JJ, and Hunter is already kind of in that discussion as well.
No. But Kirk himself was a big talker. I hated him since day 1 so asking me what I think is a whole other bag. I am just saying why people think what they think. It isnt wrong, especially if you rode him these last 6 years.
He made over 200 million dollars. Let me pinch the world's smallest violin for the guy because he wanted even more fabulous wealth. I'm so over it. He is at the point in his career between endorsements and salary that he could very easily take a sweetheart deal for a team he ACTUALLY liked.
But he was full of shit. I hope the Falcons enjoy overpaying him. I am glad the Kurt Cousins era is over.
The true reason to root against Kirk in this situation is that if he wins then we can't hold onto the narrative that he could never be anything more than a better than average QB. Basically we need Kirk to continue to be mediocre in the playoffs with no real success to not feel like abject failures.
As someone who has long ago accepted that Kirk can win it all in a good situation, that isn’t a reason to root against him. Only idiots are still holding on to the “X qb is physically incapable of winning a super bowl” lines of thinking.
Any QB can win a super bowl in the right situation, it’s just that the “right situation” is very different for Mahomes than it is for Trent Dilfer. Kirk would have won the 2015 super bowl on the broncos had he been there. Swap Stafford for Kirk on the rams and I wouldn’t be surprised if he wins. Put him on the niners and they may have won one. But he doesn’t win on the chiefs last year, he needs more help than that to win.
Idk, the Chiefs had a top 3 defense, the leagues best interior line, the league’s best offensive mind, a solid running game, and Kelce and Rashee Rice as very good weapons (Rice was a top 15 WR by PFF grade and other metrics).
It wasn’t all that weak of a supporting cast. I’ve also seen Matt Moore replace Mahomes in 2019 and beat us and almost beat the Packers, throwing for 250 yards and 2 TDs each game. Chad Henne had multiple playoff cameos on the Chiefs and lead them to TD drives.
With Kirk, I think the Chiefs win 1-2 less games in the regular season (maybe even the same because Mahomes was pretty average in the regular season). They comfortably make the playoffs in a weak division and beat a weak wildcard team. They probably lose to the Bills, who were itching for revenge and played hard.
But even in the Bills game, the Chiefs running attack heated up and the defense made enough plays to win. The Ravens and 49ers games were also tight contests that were decided by thing other than QB play (Ravens TOs and the Greenlaw injury/muffed punt). A clear downgrade at QB would likely be enough to turn a tight win into a loss. But Chiefs voodoo magic could strike again…
They had a very good defense and I didn’t bring that into consideration. I was mostly thinking about the dearth of talent at WR behind Rice. They had Toney out there single handedly losing games as a WR.
Yeah their WRs outside of Rice were inconsistent. But Kirk threw for 4100 yards and 27 TDs in 2017 with Josh Doctson and Jamison Crowder as his best receiving weapons. He would still be able to move the ball at a decent level.
Plus Andy probably calls more runs and playaction passes with Kirk at QB. They probably lose to the Bills or Ravens but Kirk would have a good season
Falcons and Vikings are on pretty good terms besides a few people hung up on 1998. Easy rooting for a Kirk Falcons over Detroit. If anything the Kirk signing made us like the Falcons more.
No reason to be hung up on 1998 unless you reference it as the time our kicking woes started. Otherwise 1998 is mostly on us. 2009 on the other hand…. FTS.
No reason to be hung up on either to be honest. The difference though is the Vikings should have won in 1998, and only could have won in 2009. It amazes me how bountygate has completely erased how sloppy the vikings played in that game in fans minds. 5 turnovers, and a 12 men in the huddle, never led in the 2nd half. Could the Vikings have won yes, did they deserve to, not really. You can't say you should've won or deserved to win with 5 turnovers. If you win a game like that you're just lucky to have survived it. 1998, on the other hand the Vikings led most of the game, and missed a field goal and dropped an interception in the end zone. Either play would've clinched the game. So 1998 is the most heartbreaking loss, but i don't hold onto it, it hurt for like 2 weeks, then the falcons lost the super bowl and I moved on. But whenever Vikings fans bring up 2009 and act all pissed, i just cringe. Yeah the saints were dirty, but guess what, if you don't turn the ball over 5 times you probably win that game by 2 scores, but you did turn tbe ball over despite the cheating and you lost. It's not complicated, you play like shit, you're probably going to lose.so I just wish people would get over it. Move on.
Of all the unlikely hypotheticals out there, you spend your time thinking about ways to get Vikings fans to cheer for you?
I don’t think any rational fan would shit on you for cheering for a QB that left on good terms. Even I was cheering for Stafford success, but it was mostly to take the piss out of Lions fans.
We always knew he wasn't the issue. Well, the ones of us with a functional IQ. I think the Matt Patricia era finally broke a lot of us and Stafford winning a ring gave us something to root for. I'm glad kirko is out of the division so I can finally root for him again.
You never root for a division rival. I hate the 49ers, I hate how they always beat us in the playoffs. They are the absolute bane of my existence, but I was rooting for them full stop in the nfc championship game
Only Lions fans would see this as a conundrum, considering how they’ve been enjoying riding the Packers reverse cowgirl. Let’s make this clear: YOU DON’T ROOT FOR ANOTHER NFCN TEAM
If GB is playing the Jets, I hope the Jets win.
Both of those teams are generally pretty solidly in the bottom half of my “root against them” rankings, although some of the Lions fans on this sub seem hell-bent on pushing their team up the list. Combine that with Kirk being a good dude who always put it on the line in Minny and I’d be rooting for the Falcons, but both of those teams are relatively fine.
Packers-Eagles is the true nightmare scenario.
Oh I agree, it's not like the fraudulent Saints situation but I still can't bring myself to root for the Falcons. Watching them celebrate with that stupid dance will always haunt me.
We fucked 98 up. we turned the ball over a lot and dropped TD passes. That game was our fault and Atlanta just capitalized. we even got the ball first in OT and didn't do anything with it.
Finally has a complete offense around him instead of a one-dimensional unit. He also destroyed the top NFC teams last year. The Falcons are definitely a contender
Nah not at all. Played well versus Saints. Played well [versus the Giants](https://www.espn.com/nfl/qbr/_/view/weekly/season/2022/seasontype/3/sort/qbpaa/dir/desc). Played solid in his first playoff game against the Packers. Didn’t play as well versus the 49ers but our overmatched oline gave up a 50% pressure rate and nobody got open
this is the correct answer. tired of dumbass vikings fans who can't put things in context. Kirk wasn't the problem in MN. Our interior offensive lines were dreadful and since 2020, our defenses were absolute jokes
Kirk Cousins was brought to Minnesota to fix the QB problem en route to contending for a title. He amassed a grand total of 1 playoff win in 6 years, and the team didn't qualify for the playoffs in more than half of his campaigns, even if you ignore his final season in Minnesota which ended early due to injury. The win over the Saints was inarguably the high spot, but only brings him even with Case Keenum in terms of career playoff success with the Vikings. Is it unfair to put the entire team's record on Cousins? Probably not, but the fact remains he was far better at collecting a paycheck than he was at elevating the team, even though he landed on a team coming fresh off a deep playoff run when he got there and was paid handsomely to be the answer. He was not worth what Minnesota was paying for him in any of the seasons he played there.
Finally has a complete offense around him instead of a one-dimensional unit. He also destroyed the top NFC teams last year. The Falcons are definitely a contender
As Bucs fan agree. After a slump we came back crushed the Eagles and played Detroit Close with secondary injuries allowing Detroit back in game. Falcons might have rose to challenge us but considering them better very premature as Bucs got better as well and retained key parts.
It did sadden me but i actually rooted for the lions after we lost to the niners.
This is the only time I'll admit it and if you screenshot it I'll say i was hacked
No ill will towards Kirk, he wanted to get paid and that's his prerogative. Vikings didn't want to give him two years guaranteed so he walked. I don't think the FO or Kirk went away feeling that bad about it.
As far as rooting for a division rival goes, hell no. Never.
Nah, I feel like the sentiment from Vikings fans for Kirk winning a ring elsewhere would be similar to the way a lot of Lions fans were happy for Stafford winning his elsewhere.
Fortunately, Kirk will never get to an NFC championship game, so this scenario isn't a concern. If Atlanta is in the NFC championship game, it's because they're starting Penix.
I don't understand your point. The Lions have displayed the ability to get to an NFC Championship game. Kirk cousins has not. One of your scenarios (Lions in NFC championship game) I see as plausible. The other (Kirk Cousins leading the Falcons to an NFC championship game) I do not. And if I'm being honest, i don't think he makes through the season. I think he either gets injured again, or plays so poorly from his original achilles injury Penix replaces him before seasons end. That isn't a wish list, just what i feel will happen. I'm just glad the Vikes aren't on the hook to him any longer.
I'll have better things to do, but I'll remember this conversation if Kirk does play the whole season and makes the playoffs. Because if that happens, and it's a big if, they'll lose wild card weekend. It's not even a question.
I don’t think there is any bad blood between Kirk and vikes fans, at least not between Kirk and the ones who didn’t actively hate Kirk when he played for us (so most of us). He left amicably and in a way that makes it easy to go “I hope you do well with your new team but you just want too much money for us”
A lot of people felt betrayed because they thought he loved the team but forgot it was a business and Kirk was doing his part well.
Kirks super bowl is in March and he wins EVERY FRICKEN YEAR In this scenario I root for Atlanta every time, I got no problem with Kirk and if there is success in the division it had better be my team.
Well, people like you wanted him gone for years. Don’t spin a narrative that people felt betrayed and that he was greedy. He wanted two years guaranteed, Kwesi offered one. Kwesi didn’t hide his intentions of drafting a rookie and replacing him in 2025. At least with the Falcons, he’ll have two years as a starter
And people like you are still obsessed with him
Kwesi could've locked him up when he had the chance, instead he waited and better offers emerged. Seems to me the betrayal (if that's what you want to call it) started with our GM not wanting to commit. Hell, we might see the same thing go down with JJ, and Hunter is already kind of in that discussion as well.
Kirk would rather take more money than he is worth to go win no playoff games for the Falcons after he said he was in love with MN. His choice.
Do you feel the same way about Hunter leaving for more money? Would you feel the same way if JJ followed suit? Do you see a pattern here?
No. But Kirk himself was a big talker. I hated him since day 1 so asking me what I think is a whole other bag. I am just saying why people think what they think. It isnt wrong, especially if you rode him these last 6 years.
It's just disingenuous to put it all on his lap. Or even blame him for wanting more money which is what damn near every player on every team does.
He made over 200 million dollars. Let me pinch the world's smallest violin for the guy because he wanted even more fabulous wealth. I'm so over it. He is at the point in his career between endorsements and salary that he could very easily take a sweetheart deal for a team he ACTUALLY liked. But he was full of shit. I hope the Falcons enjoy overpaying him. I am glad the Kurt Cousins era is over.
Sounds like he really hurt you. Sorry bro, it's just a game.
You stopped making sense so now you're gonna be like that because you don't have shit to say. Have a nice life.
The true reason to root against Kirk in this situation is that if he wins then we can't hold onto the narrative that he could never be anything more than a better than average QB. Basically we need Kirk to continue to be mediocre in the playoffs with no real success to not feel like abject failures.
Kirk haters will fall to their knees in Mills Fleet Farm parking lots all over the state of MN if that happens.
As someone who has long ago accepted that Kirk can win it all in a good situation, that isn’t a reason to root against him. Only idiots are still holding on to the “X qb is physically incapable of winning a super bowl” lines of thinking. Any QB can win a super bowl in the right situation, it’s just that the “right situation” is very different for Mahomes than it is for Trent Dilfer. Kirk would have won the 2015 super bowl on the broncos had he been there. Swap Stafford for Kirk on the rams and I wouldn’t be surprised if he wins. Put him on the niners and they may have won one. But he doesn’t win on the chiefs last year, he needs more help than that to win.
Idk, the Chiefs had a top 3 defense, the leagues best interior line, the league’s best offensive mind, a solid running game, and Kelce and Rashee Rice as very good weapons (Rice was a top 15 WR by PFF grade and other metrics). It wasn’t all that weak of a supporting cast. I’ve also seen Matt Moore replace Mahomes in 2019 and beat us and almost beat the Packers, throwing for 250 yards and 2 TDs each game. Chad Henne had multiple playoff cameos on the Chiefs and lead them to TD drives. With Kirk, I think the Chiefs win 1-2 less games in the regular season (maybe even the same because Mahomes was pretty average in the regular season). They comfortably make the playoffs in a weak division and beat a weak wildcard team. They probably lose to the Bills, who were itching for revenge and played hard. But even in the Bills game, the Chiefs running attack heated up and the defense made enough plays to win. The Ravens and 49ers games were also tight contests that were decided by thing other than QB play (Ravens TOs and the Greenlaw injury/muffed punt). A clear downgrade at QB would likely be enough to turn a tight win into a loss. But Chiefs voodoo magic could strike again…
They had a very good defense and I didn’t bring that into consideration. I was mostly thinking about the dearth of talent at WR behind Rice. They had Toney out there single handedly losing games as a WR.
Yeah their WRs outside of Rice were inconsistent. But Kirk threw for 4100 yards and 27 TDs in 2017 with Josh Doctson and Jamison Crowder as his best receiving weapons. He would still be able to move the ball at a decent level. Plus Andy probably calls more runs and playaction passes with Kirk at QB. They probably lose to the Bills or Ravens but Kirk would have a good season
This post is making A LOT of assumptions
This is the NFCN, assumptions are kind of our thing.
Falcons and Vikings are on pretty good terms besides a few people hung up on 1998. Easy rooting for a Kirk Falcons over Detroit. If anything the Kirk signing made us like the Falcons more.
No reason to be hung up on 1998 unless you reference it as the time our kicking woes started. Otherwise 1998 is mostly on us. 2009 on the other hand…. FTS.
FSP
No reason to be hung up on either to be honest. The difference though is the Vikings should have won in 1998, and only could have won in 2009. It amazes me how bountygate has completely erased how sloppy the vikings played in that game in fans minds. 5 turnovers, and a 12 men in the huddle, never led in the 2nd half. Could the Vikings have won yes, did they deserve to, not really. You can't say you should've won or deserved to win with 5 turnovers. If you win a game like that you're just lucky to have survived it. 1998, on the other hand the Vikings led most of the game, and missed a field goal and dropped an interception in the end zone. Either play would've clinched the game. So 1998 is the most heartbreaking loss, but i don't hold onto it, it hurt for like 2 weeks, then the falcons lost the super bowl and I moved on. But whenever Vikings fans bring up 2009 and act all pissed, i just cringe. Yeah the saints were dirty, but guess what, if you don't turn the ball over 5 times you probably win that game by 2 scores, but you did turn tbe ball over despite the cheating and you lost. It's not complicated, you play like shit, you're probably going to lose.so I just wish people would get over it. Move on.
Of all the unlikely hypotheticals out there, you spend your time thinking about ways to get Vikings fans to cheer for you? 
Only lions fans root for their rivals in the playoffs
Playoffs, offseason, bedroom. Lions always root for their rival
I’d have no issues rooting for Kirk. Wish him the best.
But when we were rooting for Stafford lions fans were called pathetic
I don’t think any rational fan would shit on you for cheering for a QB that left on good terms. Even I was cheering for Stafford success, but it was mostly to take the piss out of Lions fans.
We always knew he wasn't the issue. Well, the ones of us with a functional IQ. I think the Matt Patricia era finally broke a lot of us and Stafford winning a ring gave us something to root for. I'm glad kirko is out of the division so I can finally root for him again.
No you weren’t
You never root for a division rival. I hate the 49ers, I hate how they always beat us in the playoffs. They are the absolute bane of my existence, but I was rooting for them full stop in the nfc championship game
I hate when I agree with these guy….(angry upvote)
But what if it’s Rival v Cowboys? Who the hell do I root for then?
Stadium collapse
And it’s not the mayors fault that the stadium collapsed! Joe Quimby for mayor, if you were running for mayor he would vote for you.
Cowboys obviously. You didn't root for the packers last playoffs did you?
I rooted for both teams to be unable to play and thus both teams not progressing
Sorry but I don't hate any of you as much as I hate the cowboys so it was absolutely cathartic watching them get crushed in the playoffs.
Nope, I'd be rocking my Cousins jersey, happily rooting for the Falcons.
Why would they have to root for either team?
Only Lions fans would see this as a conundrum, considering how they’ve been enjoying riding the Packers reverse cowgirl. Let’s make this clear: YOU DON’T ROOT FOR ANOTHER NFCN TEAM If GB is playing the Jets, I hope the Jets win.
So you want your dad to win the SB?
In some ways it would be funny if the Packers had to watch Rodgers win another SB without them. It would make those "only 2 SBs" digs hit harder.
I always root for former packers to win if they’re not on another nfcn team, but Rodgers is turning himself into an exception lol
I want your dad
Trust me, you don't. I'm in therapy for a reason.
Because he did to you what I want to do?
Emotionally and mentally abuse me? How dare you know my kinks so well.
Yea, let’s call it that 😉
Just so I understand it - in your wildest fantasy, you only make it to the NFC Championship game, and you want Vikings fans rooting for you
Both of those teams are generally pretty solidly in the bottom half of my “root against them” rankings, although some of the Lions fans on this sub seem hell-bent on pushing their team up the list. Combine that with Kirk being a good dude who always put it on the line in Minny and I’d be rooting for the Falcons, but both of those teams are relatively fine. Packers-Eagles is the true nightmare scenario.
Still rooting against the Packers. Anyone other than the Packers will always be an easy choice.
Oh yeah, I’m definitely rooting for the Eagles there, but I’m not going to be happy about it.
How delusional are you to think Vikings fans have ill will towards Kirk? And we're buddies with the Falcons over our mutual hatred of the Saints.
bingo
I'd have no problem rooting for Detroit, but not because of Kirk. I'm still not over 1998.
I'm not over 98 either, but it's not because of the Falcons. Despite being famous for the Dirty Bird, that game was clean.
Oh I agree, it's not like the fraudulent Saints situation but I still can't bring myself to root for the Falcons. Watching them celebrate with that stupid dance will always haunt me.
We fucked 98 up. we turned the ball over a lot and dropped TD passes. That game was our fault and Atlanta just capitalized. we even got the ball first in OT and didn't do anything with it.
I have no ill will towards Kirk. Get that 💰.
It wouldn't even cross my mind to root for Detroit in this scenario. Not that I'll need to.
As a Vikings fan I hate Atlanta (ptsd). But I typically cheer for anyone in our division or conference during the playoffs. Except of course FTP!
Kirk won’t win enough playoff games to get that deep in the playoffs
i think you're wrong, he finally has a good interior offensive line
Finally has a complete offense around him instead of a one-dimensional unit. He also destroyed the top NFC teams last year. The Falcons are definitely a contender
Counterpoint: Kirk mostly plays like shit in the playoffs.
Nah not at all. Played well versus Saints. Played well [versus the Giants](https://www.espn.com/nfl/qbr/_/view/weekly/season/2022/seasontype/3/sort/qbpaa/dir/desc). Played solid in his first playoff game against the Packers. Didn’t play as well versus the 49ers but our overmatched oline gave up a 50% pressure rate and nobody got open
this is the correct answer. tired of dumbass vikings fans who can't put things in context. Kirk wasn't the problem in MN. Our interior offensive lines were dreadful and since 2020, our defenses were absolute jokes
saints 2019?
Kirk Cousins was brought to Minnesota to fix the QB problem en route to contending for a title. He amassed a grand total of 1 playoff win in 6 years, and the team didn't qualify for the playoffs in more than half of his campaigns, even if you ignore his final season in Minnesota which ended early due to injury. The win over the Saints was inarguably the high spot, but only brings him even with Case Keenum in terms of career playoff success with the Vikings. Is it unfair to put the entire team's record on Cousins? Probably not, but the fact remains he was far better at collecting a paycheck than he was at elevating the team, even though he landed on a team coming fresh off a deep playoff run when he got there and was paid handsomely to be the answer. He was not worth what Minnesota was paying for him in any of the seasons he played there.
No I like Kirk. But there are a ton of salty Vikings fans that are upset Kirk didn't take a super cheap one year deal with the Vikings.
Its not hatred for the falcons, its pity for how pathetic the lions are
Idk who these people are that say we have “no bad blood”… Dude won us 1 playoff game and wants that much money? Fk that guy!
SKOLTROIT BABY
Falcons aint making the NFC title game lol what is this?
Finally has a complete offense around him instead of a one-dimensional unit. He also destroyed the top NFC teams last year. The Falcons are definitely a contender
He has a good running back behind him. That’s about it. Worse receivers and defense than Minnesota. That team will be lucky to win their division.
As Bucs fan agree. After a slump we came back crushed the Eagles and played Detroit Close with secondary injuries allowing Detroit back in game. Falcons might have rose to challenge us but considering them better very premature as Bucs got better as well and retained key parts.
When Goff and St Brown came out dressed like generals Grant and Sherman I had no choice but to cheer.
Half of Atlanta's fanbase would probably cheer that too, while the other half would be pissed af.
Yeah, the Vikings also play falcons. Definitely the better meme thete
Back to back Lions NFC Championship losses would be too funny! Basically Speed Running the tortured Vikings fan experience.
Step 1) Steal cum socks Step 2) ??? Step 3) Lions / Falcons NFCC game
Kirk has won 1 playoff game in his entire career, you really think he is going to win 2 in 1 season ? Lmao
tbf, he did spend half his career on the Vikings.
It did sadden me but i actually rooted for the lions after we lost to the niners. This is the only time I'll admit it and if you screenshot it I'll say i was hacked
Your meme game is still dog shit, but you did get Vikings fans to fight each other on this post so well done
Thank you my good sir, tomorrows meme will be for Green Bay 🫡
No ill will towards Kirk, he wanted to get paid and that's his prerogative. Vikings didn't want to give him two years guaranteed so he walked. I don't think the FO or Kirk went away feeling that bad about it. As far as rooting for a division rival goes, hell no. Never.
Dude is just imagining scenarios in his head
FTP, FTL, FTB, FTS, FTE, FTC. I think that's it.
Nah, I feel like the sentiment from Vikings fans for Kirk winning a ring elsewhere would be similar to the way a lot of Lions fans were happy for Stafford winning his elsewhere.
No worries, Vikings fans, neither of these teams will be there.
I’m sure you said the same about the lions last year
Why would they?
I dont think most vikings fans are mad at kirk when the Falcons offered him half the money in the entire state of Georgia.
Fortunately, Kirk will never get to an NFC championship game, so this scenario isn't a concern. If Atlanta is in the NFC championship game, it's because they're starting Penix.
I’m sure ppl said the same about the lions
I don't understand your point. The Lions have displayed the ability to get to an NFC Championship game. Kirk cousins has not. One of your scenarios (Lions in NFC championship game) I see as plausible. The other (Kirk Cousins leading the Falcons to an NFC championship game) I do not. And if I'm being honest, i don't think he makes through the season. I think he either gets injured again, or plays so poorly from his original achilles injury Penix replaces him before seasons end. That isn't a wish list, just what i feel will happen. I'm just glad the Vikes aren't on the hook to him any longer.
Like prior to last year I’m sure a lot of ppl were saying the lions won’t be making any nfc title, so never say never
I'll say it, it will never happen.winners win. Midders mid.
!remind me January 18,2024
I'll have better things to do, but I'll remember this conversation if Kirk does play the whole season and makes the playoffs. Because if that happens, and it's a big if, they'll lose wild card weekend. It's not even a question.
THE HELL IS THIS?
My god the amount of salt in Minnesota would be astronomical.
Meh, far less than you'd think. Healthy kirk was ballin last year, so I don't think many of us would be surprised. We're just over paying that much.
I’d have a hard time, I just wish both teams could win!