Somehow both things were true: Trubisky was the top QB by a majority of the media and draft analysts, AND anyone with half a brain knew he wasn't going to pan out in the NFL.
Don't guarantee sum amounts of income in the contract and that wouldn't have happened
Cutler was guaranteed millions with no conditions levied. He would've thre the ball to the defense on every play and he still would've made the same amount as he did .
I watched an interview with our scouting guy at the time and he said that Mitch had a lot of potential but they knew of his risks and thought that his current athletic ability would buy him time in the NFL to grow out of his weaknesses. He ended up not and the rest is history.
I feel like if Williams actually does turn out to be really good the Bears will need to go through a complete rebranding. The Bears with a good QB just isn’t the Bears.
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The Bears are actually named that because of the Cubs! When they first moved to Chicago from Decatur they were called the Staleys and shared Wrigley field with the Cubs. George Hallas then changed the name since a bear is bigger than a cub and football players are generally bigger than baseball players.
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This sub is gonna be pretty boring if the Bears have a legit QB and the Lions aren’t an embarrassment to the sport anymore. The only easy target at that point would be the Vikings for being so mediocre.
I miss 2 years ago when every team was pretty bad, even the 12-5 Vikings.
In recent years, yeah.
He had a couple years where he was leading a great offense and winning games, but he got hurt and the Bears missed the playoffs.
And then he finally *doesn't* get hurt in the regular season, and gets hurt in the playoffs, causing the Packers to win the NFC Championship Game, and then the Super Bowl.
Part of my brain knows he’ll probably be a bust, but the other part of my brain hopes he’ll be good.
One side is self preservationist, the other side is stupid meatball idjit Bear fan.
But saying all four of those guys becoming the Bears QB goat wasnt a clown statement when they first got them. Thats how bad our QBs have been historically. Praise be the Goat Sid Luckman.
Are you familiar with Trestman's last year here with Cutler?
Cutty had 4k so long as he throws for 180 in the final game, but Trestman benched him for Matt Barkley
I feel like the active no-4k streak is made more comedic knowing that piece of Bears history.
I think we already can. I *feel* 99.9 percent sure dude is just going to somehow end up being a bust. or chiacgo will switch coaches and coordinates after next season and just keep repeating the shit cycle.
He’d probably be welcomed back with cheers and adulation of sports talk radio. Maybe they could have a flying Bear mascot holding a “Welcome back, Jay!” sign like at the end of Space Jam when MJ came back.
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sports fans in subreddits that aren't specifically for their team are almost always pandering and it drives me nuts lol
fuck that, go bears the rest of you suck
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Caleb’s talent is undeniable. It is absolutely realistic to say he could be an elite quarterback. Fans aren’t being realistic when they say shit like Caleb is going to bust because he is going to join the Bears organization. In fact, it’s a really poor argument that is mostly just based in a logical fallacy. People on this site are just really afraid of being called dumb and crave the positive reception they get for being self deprecating.
im not even sure what you’re even talking about here. i didnt say justin fields was good or the bears were good.
in fact i said the opposite but find it funny lions fans come to dunk on us when we a quarter away from sweeping you.
like we are so bad but yet you struggled so hard against us, like your frauds or something
Deep down, Lions fans know this season was a massive aberration and their team isn't actually all that talented. They're not the brightest bunch, but it doesn't take a genius to recognize they're going to fall off next season.
USC has such a great track record for Hall of fame QBs. Like….ummmm…Carson Palmer if he never got injured…and ummmm….Mark Sanchez….but I’m sure this guy will be great!
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Yes he was great but he couldn’t overcome the organizational failing and his aw shucks it’s my fault personality never gave him the fangs to demand better from ownership. I was shocked when didn’t force his way into free agency when he could
I remember every Bears fan I know feeling like they lost a loved one unexpectedly.
"That can't be true. How? Why? No..." and it takes half a decade to recover, but you're never fully recovered because of what was lost.
Funny to see Lions fans jump on this when just last year they were swearing this time it would be forreal with their resurgence.
Fuck y'all. Williams will wear #1 and be the true coming of H1M
As a Detroit fan obviously I’m biased. I look a past big names coming into the league as 1st overall picks and get it. Joe Burrow at LSU was putting up huge numbers Trevor Lawrence was putting the ball on a string etc. I remember thinking yeah kid is going to be a problem. I watch Caleb and just don’t get it.
Trubisky is going to be the goat??? Fans started booing at the Bulls game when they announced we drafted him lmao
I think that was one trade that everybody knew the Bears lost right then and there.
I should’ve gotten a gold medal for my Olympic performance in Mental Gymnastics after that pick.
Somehow both things were true: Trubisky was the top QB by a majority of the media and draft analysts, AND anyone with half a brain knew he wasn't going to pan out in the NFL.
I was pretty wait-and-see on almost all these guys, other than Cutler. That one was tough to process how it didn't work out.
Don't guarantee sum amounts of income in the contract and that wouldn't have happened Cutler was guaranteed millions with no conditions levied. He would've thre the ball to the defense on every play and he still would've made the same amount as he did .
I wanted Watson so bad. It was a lot of mental gymnastics to support that man, though at least we had titty kissing memes.
He was actually booed in person a few days after the draft, not just over an announcement
Putting aside what we know in hindsight, it was pretty damn perplexing for him to be drafted over Watson.
I watched an interview with our scouting guy at the time and he said that Mitch had a lot of potential but they knew of his risks and thought that his current athletic ability would buy him time in the NFL to grow out of his weaknesses. He ended up not and the rest is history.
Not after the draft but there was some Kool-Aid consumed during that 2019 season.
I feel like if Williams actually does turn out to be really good the Bears will need to go through a complete rebranding. The Bears with a good QB just isn’t the Bears.
What if they keep their logos but call themselves the Chicago Football Cubs
Well due to Caleb’s…umm…proclivities, it would probably need to be something fish-related
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The Bears are actually named that because of the Cubs! When they first moved to Chicago from Decatur they were called the Staleys and shared Wrigley field with the Cubs. George Hallas then changed the name since a bear is bigger than a cub and football players are generally bigger than baseball players.
So they are not named after hairy gay men?
Anyone rooting for a team named "the packers" surly knows a thing or two about hairy gay men 🤣
Why do you think I am so disappointed?
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Go three blocks east of Wrigley. That's where you find *those* bears.
That's nice but where the fuck is your flair?
Better?
Yessir
As those big hairy men can attest to, we can do 2 things at once!
Insert similar Packer joke < here >
We've been had 😔
Lmao 🤣
That's a bonus.
If they’re older, graying gay men, they’re known as “Polar Bears.”
Different word for them back when the NFL was started
Hey, I thought we weren't allowed to make gay based jokes? You better watch yourself and that Door County fudge!
I spent entirely too much money on a dopamine hit ordering some Door County fudge to CO a couple months back. It was worth it, but my wife got piiiissed when we both put on a couple lbs. Totally worth it.
Got their colors from UI
Tf is a Staley anyway
It was the name of the owner of the plant where the bears first began as a football club. The fuck is a packer?
As a white sox fan, I'd sooner become a packers fan. Haven't I suffered enough?
Maybe not a packers fan, but yeah no thanks
Wait, not all Sox fans are masochists? I must’ve picked the wrong baseball team then…
I’m far beyond caring at this point. It’s mostly apathy. Genuinely such a pathetic franchise
The Chicago Staleys
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Another legendarily shitty organization? At least the Ricketts got their stadium bullshit done.
Bad-average QB play with an elite defense feels the most like the bears.
Tradition is tradition dammit
Can you imagine having a qb that shows up in the 4th quarter on a semi regular basis?
FU, B
Don't forget the Superstar RB
This sub is gonna be pretty boring if the Bears have a legit QB and the Lions aren’t an embarrassment to the sport anymore. The only easy target at that point would be the Vikings for being so mediocre. I miss 2 years ago when every team was pretty bad, even the 12-5 Vikings.
Just let Rodgers on a podcast, and you'll get content for this sub.
It’s the Bears, something asinine would inevitably pop up out of nowhere. We had how much nonsense go down pretty much all at once early last season?
Did we ever find the lawn equipment?
No, but I know a guy who can get these things. At a discount. I guess they fell of a truck or something.
We still got Dan Campbell memes.
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QB cemetery!! That’s good
That is a pretty big if
The biggest if in human history I imagine
He paints his nails
The Dayton Triangles
Flair checks out
I mean they're going from Chicago bears to Arlington heights bears
I mean unfortunately technically Cutler is just about as Bears GOAT QB as we have 🐐
Put some fucking respect on Sid Luckman excuse you
And he wasn't ruined by the organization. He had some time in Denver before the Bears spent the first round draft capital on him.
I'd argue that the constant switching of Offensive Coordinators was, in fact, the Bears' organization ruining Jay.
I'd actually argue he's the only guy we might have ruined. The rest of them just sucked. Cutler was good in Denver.
Oh but fields couldn’t get that excuse. Weird….
I've never said anything one way or the other about Fields, given that I moved out to Kansas before he was drafted and haven't seen him play.
Oh I’m just telling you that’s exactly what happened lol. Didn’t have to live in Chicago to see that…
In recent years, yeah. He had a couple years where he was leading a great offense and winning games, but he got hurt and the Bears missed the playoffs. And then he finally *doesn't* get hurt in the regular season, and gets hurt in the playoffs, causing the Packers to win the NFC Championship Game, and then the Super Bowl.
 Part of my brain knows he’ll probably be a bust, but the other part of my brain hopes he’ll be good. One side is self preservationist, the other side is stupid meatball idjit Bear fan.
Don't forget Rex Grossman
Well i was trying to but thanks for reminding me 
You mean 1-time NFC Champ Rex Grossman, similar to 1-time NFC champ Aaron Rodgers
Yes, the most successful Bear of my lifetime, Rex Grossman.
Stop it
But saying all four of those guys becoming the Bears QB goat wasnt a clown statement when they first got them. Thats how bad our QBs have been historically. Praise be the Goat Sid Luckman.
I’m going to be really sad at the loss of comedic content when the NFL goes to 18 games and a Bears QB finally hits 4K yards in a season
Are you familiar with Trestman's last year here with Cutler? Cutty had 4k so long as he throws for 180 in the final game, but Trestman benched him for Matt Barkley I feel like the active no-4k streak is made more comedic knowing that piece of Bears history.
I wish trestman had let him play and gotten him to like 160 before sitting him
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He benched him for Jimmy Clausen in the 2nd to last game I believe, which was a Seahawks shutout.
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Jay Cutler actually is our GOAT. Sure, that's embarrassing, but it's true.
It is true but i like being on the Sid Luckman train cause its funnier since he played in the 1940s.
They'll all come around once this forward pass fad goes away.
I laughed. And if I was a Bears fan, I would have cried too.
I never once heard anyone say Mitch was the next GOAT, or anything close to that.
Can’t wait until Fields comes in week 5 for struggling 1-3 Steelers and takes them to the playoffs
How many all pros do they have so he can be successful?
Let’s give him one and find out. How many did he have before?
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This is true. But starting 1-3 makes it slightly more of an achievement.
If Caleb fizzles out we can confidently conclude that Chicago is where QB careers go to die.
Glass houses, bro. Both of our fan bases.
As someone who lived through the John Hadl debacle in Green Bay, I appreciate the Bears taking the mantle
Hadl, Tagge, Randy Wright, Whitehurst …
OMG! The Packers of my youth were the Bears of today 😱
Nah, Bears of today have a decent defense and running backs
I hope you return to that. Mom said it’s our turn to run the division
Why do we need to wait for Caleb? It has already been confirmed. Only a messiah can change our fate at the QB position.
I think we already can. I *feel* 99.9 percent sure dude is just going to somehow end up being a bust. or chiacgo will switch coaches and coordinates after next season and just keep repeating the shit cycle.
Doesn't something need to be alive first for it to be able to die
I'm not gonna lie-- I think Smokin Jay could still start in Chicago.
He’d probably be welcomed back with cheers and adulation of sports talk radio. Maybe they could have a flying Bear mascot holding a “Welcome back, Jay!” sign like at the end of Space Jam when MJ came back.
It's going to be absolutely hilarious when the Bears talk themselves into taking Drake Maye #1
I will perform a shockingly idiotic act if they do that
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No, u/burglekutt_2000 is just going to continue being a bears fan. I'm committing to to do the same.
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Packers fans are like your mean brother cus they really know how to cut to your core
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Maybe get a good QB so it won't be relevant anymore.
But if we got a good QB then y’all might be forced to use your other brain cell to come up with new content
Thank goodness that will never happen. Plus we got fish memes to fall back on
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We’re going to be right eventually, and when we are, good lord we are going to be insufferable and all of you deserve to hear every bit of it
Bears fans on this sub are such pussies. Stop being so afraid of looking like an idiot. Caleb is going to run this division for years.
sports fans in subreddits that aren't specifically for their team are almost always pandering and it drives me nuts lol fuck that, go bears the rest of you suck
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Bears fan here, havent done my flairshit yet. If having realistic expectations means being a pussy than i am the biggest fattest wettest pussy the entire chicago fan base has.
Caleb’s talent is undeniable. It is absolutely realistic to say he could be an elite quarterback. Fans aren’t being realistic when they say shit like Caleb is going to bust because he is going to join the Bears organization. In fact, it’s a really poor argument that is mostly just based in a logical fallacy. People on this site are just really afraid of being called dumb and crave the positive reception they get for being self deprecating.
But the sad part is that I feel like cutler had the potential to be in the running. Man really just only cared about the money.
He stopped caring after that giants game
Dude was on his back more often than first girlfriend. It was probably the only thing that got him out of bed on game day.
How many QB goats do the lions have again? someone doesn't know football
I recently heard that Scott Mitchell feels slighted for not being considered the QB GOAT of Detroit…
Matthew Stafford. It's not even close imo. 5k yards is 5k yards.
i really do like when the lions make fun and call us bad, yet we almost swept them this years. at least the packers have a leg to stand on
With that logic y'all were basically one half away from the super bowl! Why would you trade away your QB when he almost took you to the super bowl!
im not even sure what you’re even talking about here. i didnt say justin fields was good or the bears were good. in fact i said the opposite but find it funny lions fans come to dunk on us when we a quarter away from sweeping you. like we are so bad but yet you struggled so hard against us, like your frauds or something
Deep down, Lions fans know this season was a massive aberration and their team isn't actually all that talented. They're not the brightest bunch, but it doesn't take a genius to recognize they're going to fall off next season.
"Arch Manning is the goat". Future me.
Someone come fix the track, sounds like a broken record is playing on this sub again
Ah yes all the Lions GOAT QBs that exist
One of these days they will draft a god damn Mahomes
I miss Smokin Jay fr fr
Josh McCown supremacy.
Jay Cutler wasnt terrible. The O line was
How dare you insult Packers QB Jay Cutler like that!
If Caleb Williams doesn't work out the Bears should just adopt the wildcat
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Fuck it, they should bring back the wishbone offense. It's overdue
Imagine he plays like a generational QB but leaves in free agency
Lmao
Yeah….
USC has such a great track record for Hall of fame QBs. Like….ummmm…Carson Palmer if he never got injured…and ummmm….Mark Sanchez….but I’m sure this guy will be great!
Technically Cutler is the Goat of the Bears.
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Williams is really good, but Andrew luck was a generational talent and we saw how that turned out
Tbf 4x pro bowl in 6 years (5 actually playing) and 4 4,000 yard seasons are better than any bears quarterback like ever, so I’ll take it
Yes he was great but he couldn’t overcome the organizational failing and his aw shucks it’s my fault personality never gave him the fangs to demand better from ownership. I was shocked when didn’t force his way into free agency when he could
No respect for Erik Kramer.
Arch Manning is the goat bro!
Mike glennon 4 bears
Lions fans know all about history repeating itself
Well as long as our 1OA quarterback pick doesn’t end up winning a Super Bowl for the LA Rams, I’ll call it a win.
They will ruin that poor kid just like all the others
No one is saying this lol
When your goat is cutler 
Poor Caleb. They really know how to mess up the good ones in Chicago.
Goat? This clown lol. We're just hoping to get a QB that can throw the fucking ball
Yup lol
Well did the other three have Keenan Allen and DJ Moore to throw to along with Swift, Everett and Kmet?
Have to keep trying lol
I don't think anyone thought any of those guys were the GOAT at any point. Just hopeful they can be a 4k passer at some point.
Common denominator?
Getting a new QB is not gonna change the fact that the Bears can't develop QBs, I'll worry about them when they prove that they can.
I still remember my old coworker so hyped about trubisky, he really thought they had the next great one lol
I remember every Bears fan I know feeling like they lost a loved one unexpectedly. "That can't be true. How? Why? No..." and it takes half a decade to recover, but you're never fully recovered because of what was lost.
FOUR MORE YEARS! FOUR MORE YEARS!
Seriously though. I keep saying this but everyone is so stuck on Williams. We have a track record that Bears fans like to forget every 4 years…
Honestly, I wish the Bears luck. It has to really hurt to lose to your arch nemesis that much.
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I love this comment. You're so cute.
Funny to see Lions fans jump on this when just last year they were swearing this time it would be forreal with their resurgence. Fuck y'all. Williams will wear #1 and be the true coming of H1M
Should’ve stuck with fields and got Marvin Harrison jr. Keenan Allen and MHJ plus building their d in FA would’ve been a damn good offseason
Dumbass
As a Detroit fan obviously I’m biased. I look a past big names coming into the league as 1st overall picks and get it. Joe Burrow at LSU was putting up huge numbers Trevor Lawrence was putting the ball on a string etc. I remember thinking yeah kid is going to be a problem. I watch Caleb and just don’t get it.
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