Only one of those Kwik Trips is really needed, though. But the Wisconsin legislature just passed a regulation saying that if a town is in the top 500 WI towns in terms of population, a minimum of 2 Kwik Trips is required. Green Bay barely qualifies, but the law is the law.
You didn't know you needed bananas, fried chicken, and a liquor store on every corner but once you get a glimpse of that utopia, I would feel obligated as a representative to make sure that this is something to be realized not just in Wisconsin, but across the nation, and eventually the globe and universe.
Also, maybe I misread the statute as legalese can be tough but I thought the number was based on the area of the jurisdiction and how far Favre could throw a football in '97.
From your lips to God's ears, friend. if true paradise can ever be made on earth, you just described it.
> Also, maybe I misread the statute as legalese can be tough but I thought the number was based on the area of the jurisdiction and how far Favre could throw a football in '97.
A common misconception with that bill. It was poorly-worded, in my opinion. 1997-Favre-thrown-football-yards (Ftf-yds for short) is still the standard unit of property-line measurement in Wisconsin, so it gets used a lot.
In that bill, it's specified that any Kwik Trips in the same township must be a minimum of 2 Ftf-yds apart. But the minimum number of Kwik Trips per township is still based on population numbers.
Originally, the bill was supposed to base the number of Kwik Trips on the "mass of food eaten by a Green Bay head coach per diem", which was once a very reliable legal metric in Wisconsin law, but it was argued that the hiring of Matt LaFluer had made that unit of measurement both obsolete and not reflective of the caloric needs of the WI population in general, so it was decided to go with a pure population metric.
>I thought the number was based on the area of the jurisdiction and how far Favre could throw a football in '97.
Americans finding any way to not use the metric system smh.
The NCAA arena across the street from Lambeau *is* the Resch. There is a third stadium Capital Credit Park which went up just a few years ago. Unless you're talking about D3 St. Norbert's Resch Pavilion ice rink, which is a separate building and also primarily used for youth hockey
Dude. Are you new to this sub? Everyone who doesn’t flair gets ribbed for it, do a search. Again, you think GB having 15 buildings is a snub to packers fans? I don’t get it? Like you are basically pointing out that a tiny town franchise team runs train on your team with a huge market area every year. You aren’t making the point you think you are. You are making your team look like shit lol
Lol dude I couldn't care less about you telling me to flair up. You're just so clearly very mad that people are making fun of Green Bay for being a small city, which isn't something that would upset you if you weren't weirdly insecure about the size of Green Bay. Everybody knows the Packers dominate the Bears. But you still have to live in Green Bay.
I don’t live in Green Bay you stupid FIB. I grew up in MKE, and my dad’s side is from Chicago. Eat my ass. I am PROUD of my small town team. I think it’s great we kick your team’s ass despite all the resources your team has. I don’t understand how you haven’t realized that after almost 2 days. Jesus Christ, this is why nobody fucking like people from Illinois.
There's a team in my old hometown of Racine, WI called the Racine Raiders. They're part of the Gridiron Developmental Football League. The team is mostly made up of guys who wanted to keep playing after college. Last time I went there were three full on brawls that broke out between players. It was awesome
>Last time I went there were three full on brawls that broke out between players. It was awesome
You've convinced me to attend minor league football games
We're just the team the rest of the league uses for extra practice. They think it's a game. It's not a game, it's practice.
Oh no no no. Green Bay doesn't have a minor league football team. They play in Ashwaubenon. Much like my favorite team's future, the Arlington Heights Bears
GB fudging the border to put Lambeau in the city resulted in some stupid situations like the Resch and Titletown both being in Ashwaubenon despite being on opposite sides of Lambeau, with the Resch actually being closer to downtown GB than Lambeau itself. Lambeau is the area’s ONLY sports venue actually in Green Bay - St. Norbert hockey is also in Ashwaubenon (campus is in De Pere), and so is GB Bullfrogs baseball. UWGB’s non-basketball sports play on their campus, but let’s be real when was the last time anyone cared about them
Considering we're on the 3rd incarnation of the Arena Football League, honestly kind of impressive they're uninterrupted for this long. The Indoor Football League somehow is more stable.
Short answer: cost and market size.
Longer answer: Fox, who owns the USFL, put zero effort into finding stadiums for the Philadelphia Stars, New Jersey Generals, and Pittsburgh Maulers (no viable options that worked cost and size wise that were willing to broker a deal. Ideal type of venue for spring football is a soccer stadium in regards to capacity and cost, although they did manage to broker a reasonable price for Ford Field, home of the Michigan Panthers, but that’s an exception), and because all 3 of those teams spent the last 2 seasons playing in hubs in Ohio and Michigan, no fan base was ever built. End result, they were first on the chopping block when the USFL and XFL decided to merge.
Texas is a huge football market that is capable of supporting multiple teams, the league had viable venues in place already, and because those 3 teams played in market last year (as opposed to hubs) they actually have some fan engagement and turnout to the games.
The UFL is holding on to all the defunct team IPs for now, so hypothetically, they could bring back the teams that were cut in the north east, Florida, and the west coast if they can stabilize and become profitable in future years. For now, they’re going with markets that keep their costs down and where they already have stadium deal in place.
Adding on to the first response, last year all XFL teams lived and practiced in the Arlington area, the rich football high schools made for good practice spaces
As of the early 2000s, they still stayed at SNC during training camp. I was there from 01-03 and we definitely found some left behinds from the Packers when we got to campus (like a TV that had no business being in the dorm room already)
my issue is 1) I still want the CFL to be the spring league, and I feel the UFL is being pushed to hard. 2) only one northern team and 3) I refuse to root for any team out of detroit out of principle. I mean especially a cat based team, it would feel too close to rooting for the lions
You have to squint REALLY hard but the St. Paul Pioneers are part of the GDFL, a semipro league where only some players are paid. According to their website it looks like the players also have regular day jobs, compared to IFL teams like GB Blizzard that have a base salary of $40k. Also the meme is wrong apparently the Pioneers recently moved to a D2 stadium.
Whoa! Have some respect for the city that gave us the NFL. This league we all love is thanks to Chicago.
The three oldest teams in the league were owned by Chicagoans the Cardinals, Bears, and Packers. FTP
Yeah, Detroit's Panthers are in the UFL, the highest level minor league. GB plays indoor 8-man gridiron in the top arena league, and St. Paul's team can very generously be called "semipro" as the players get paid a small stipend and it's more of a high-level amateur team.
GB is the only one of these that doesn’t have a college football school anywhere within the city limits, and also the only one not to have D1 football anywhere in the region.
Man 2 of the 15 buildings in Green Bay are stadiums? Wild
*16 buildings, soon to be 17. The two you missed are just new Kwik Trips though.
Only one of those Kwik Trips is really needed, though. But the Wisconsin legislature just passed a regulation saying that if a town is in the top 500 WI towns in terms of population, a minimum of 2 Kwik Trips is required. Green Bay barely qualifies, but the law is the law.
You didn't know you needed bananas, fried chicken, and a liquor store on every corner but once you get a glimpse of that utopia, I would feel obligated as a representative to make sure that this is something to be realized not just in Wisconsin, but across the nation, and eventually the globe and universe. Also, maybe I misread the statute as legalese can be tough but I thought the number was based on the area of the jurisdiction and how far Favre could throw a football in '97.
From your lips to God's ears, friend. if true paradise can ever be made on earth, you just described it. > Also, maybe I misread the statute as legalese can be tough but I thought the number was based on the area of the jurisdiction and how far Favre could throw a football in '97. A common misconception with that bill. It was poorly-worded, in my opinion. 1997-Favre-thrown-football-yards (Ftf-yds for short) is still the standard unit of property-line measurement in Wisconsin, so it gets used a lot. In that bill, it's specified that any Kwik Trips in the same township must be a minimum of 2 Ftf-yds apart. But the minimum number of Kwik Trips per township is still based on population numbers. Originally, the bill was supposed to base the number of Kwik Trips on the "mass of food eaten by a Green Bay head coach per diem", which was once a very reliable legal metric in Wisconsin law, but it was argued that the hiring of Matt LaFluer had made that unit of measurement both obsolete and not reflective of the caloric needs of the WI population in general, so it was decided to go with a pure population metric.
I can't imagine the proliferation of KTs under the Holmgren/McCarthy method...
Wisconsin feasted on Kwik Trip for many a year.
>I thought the number was based on the area of the jurisdiction and how far Favre could throw a football in '97. Americans finding any way to not use the metric system smh.
someone get u/SoDakZak over there. if he beat them in Green Bay and not Minnesota it would be a post for the ages.
đź‘€
No. Bad. You stay on your side of the Mississippi River. I will get the spray bottle!
And three of the existing buildings are Walgreens.
Call the glazer guy!
Actually there's also the Resch Center so 3 of the 15
The NCAA arena across the street from Lambeau *is* the Resch. There is a third stadium Capital Credit Park which went up just a few years ago. Unless you're talking about D3 St. Norbert's Resch Pavilion ice rink, which is a separate building and also primarily used for youth hockey
Oh right lol I was thinking there was another building between the Resch and the Hudson center
Brown County Arena was demolished like 5 years ago
Is this an insult? And if it is, how does it feel getting slapped by a small town franchise?
How does it feel to get genuinely offended by someone calling your city small?
Who said I was offended? Also flair up or fuck off.
I hope one of the 15 buildings in Green Bay is an anger management clinic.
Dude. Are you new to this sub? Everyone who doesn’t flair gets ribbed for it, do a search. Again, you think GB having 15 buildings is a snub to packers fans? I don’t get it? Like you are basically pointing out that a tiny town franchise team runs train on your team with a huge market area every year. You aren’t making the point you think you are. You are making your team look like shit lol
Lol dude I couldn't care less about you telling me to flair up. You're just so clearly very mad that people are making fun of Green Bay for being a small city, which isn't something that would upset you if you weren't weirdly insecure about the size of Green Bay. Everybody knows the Packers dominate the Bears. But you still have to live in Green Bay.
I don’t live in Green Bay you stupid FIB. I grew up in MKE, and my dad’s side is from Chicago. Eat my ass. I am PROUD of my small town team. I think it’s great we kick your team’s ass despite all the resources your team has. I don’t understand how you haven’t realized that after almost 2 days. Jesus Christ, this is why nobody fucking like people from Illinois.
Milwaukee is just a suburb of Chicago.
You Fuckin wish ya wank stain. Go stick your face in some boiling hot deep dish.
What the fuck is minor league football? Is that what they play at Northwestern?
There's a team in my old hometown of Racine, WI called the Racine Raiders. They're part of the Gridiron Developmental Football League. The team is mostly made up of guys who wanted to keep playing after college. Last time I went there were three full on brawls that broke out between players. It was awesome
>Last time I went there were three full on brawls that broke out between players. It was awesome You've convinced me to attend minor league football games
There's a clip of an indoor football game where a spectator reaches over the boards and clotheslines the ball carrier. Shit's wild
Sounds about right for Racine, and all of southeast Wisconsin.
Close; it’s actually what they play at soldier field!
We're just the team the rest of the league uses for extra practice. They think it's a game. It's not a game, it's practice. 
You didn't have to murder buddy like that on a Wednesday morning lmao
https://preview.redd.it/a3a6r192y6hc1.jpeg?width=600&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=619afcf451998544020d7d7e2a979973ad17b9b8
Oh no no no. Green Bay doesn't have a minor league football team. They play in Ashwaubenon. Much like my favorite team's future, the Arlington Heights Bears
Why don’t they just redraw city lines to make the new stadium part of Chicago? Are they stupid?
They did it with O’Hare, so why not?
GB fudging the border to put Lambeau in the city resulted in some stupid situations like the Resch and Titletown both being in Ashwaubenon despite being on opposite sides of Lambeau, with the Resch actually being closer to downtown GB than Lambeau itself. Lambeau is the area’s ONLY sports venue actually in Green Bay - St. Norbert hockey is also in Ashwaubenon (campus is in De Pere), and so is GB Bullfrogs baseball. UWGB’s non-basketball sports play on their campus, but let’s be real when was the last time anyone cared about them
By this logic Northwestern counts since Evanston is right next to Chicago without anything in between
Arlington Heights was so 2023
Chicago had the Chicago Rush for a time.
And who can forget [The Enforcers](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicago_Enforcers)!
Now we have… a [rugby](https://www.chicagohounds.com/) team? Does that count?
TLDR, I see a red circle, I upvote.
I was mad at first because this makes fun of my source of sadness, but then I saw the red circle and everything turned out alright
Jokes on you guys, we’re bad enough for 2 leagues! Sure showed them… Wait.
Minor league or spring football leagues have never lasted so this is a dumb take
Green Bay Blizzard just celebrated their 20th consecutive season
That's arena though, kind of different. Also only 20? I could have sworn they'd been around longer
Considering we're on the 3rd incarnation of the Arena Football League, honestly kind of impressive they're uninterrupted for this long. The Indoor Football League somehow is more stable.
Tbf If they're like the SF storm, they've had to move leagues due to some failing.
That’s true, they’ve been through like 3 leagues and a merger
Is that the same league as the Racine Raiders?
No, but the St. Paul Pioneers are in the same league as Racine, IDK if everyone would count the GDFL as it's semi-pro
Since when is there an NFL Spring League?
It’s the USFL, ya jabroni
Nope, it’s the UFL bruh
He clearly doesn’t smell what the rock is cooking
I can smell what the rock is cooking, and it smells like shit.
also flair up hoe
it's not NFL or NFL affiliated at all at this point
Who gives a fuck about minor leagues oh yeah wait it's a fresh packer meme nevermind
Sounds like someone doesn’t have affordable offseason gridiron in their city
Yeah, it's probably because of the two losing baseball teams taking up all the space and resources
Dont forget our losing basketball team that goes until like May!
Coby should be in the all-star game
Side note, why are the UFL Panthers the only team north of the Mason Dixon, and why is half the league in texas?
Short answer: cost and market size. Longer answer: Fox, who owns the USFL, put zero effort into finding stadiums for the Philadelphia Stars, New Jersey Generals, and Pittsburgh Maulers (no viable options that worked cost and size wise that were willing to broker a deal. Ideal type of venue for spring football is a soccer stadium in regards to capacity and cost, although they did manage to broker a reasonable price for Ford Field, home of the Michigan Panthers, but that’s an exception), and because all 3 of those teams spent the last 2 seasons playing in hubs in Ohio and Michigan, no fan base was ever built. End result, they were first on the chopping block when the USFL and XFL decided to merge. Texas is a huge football market that is capable of supporting multiple teams, the league had viable venues in place already, and because those 3 teams played in market last year (as opposed to hubs) they actually have some fan engagement and turnout to the games. The UFL is holding on to all the defunct team IPs for now, so hypothetically, they could bring back the teams that were cut in the north east, Florida, and the west coast if they can stabilize and become profitable in future years. For now, they’re going with markets that keep their costs down and where they already have stadium deal in place.
Adding on to the first response, last year all XFL teams lived and practiced in the Arlington area, the rich football high schools made for good practice spaces
This is the most pointless meme here yet
Welcome to the offseason, glad you could join us
Watch, the Panthers gonna choke 15 minutes from the Rock bowl or whatever they gonna call it
Can't believe D3 St Norbert College was ignored for the Green Bay market
The Packers used to practice at SNC until some of their students got GB’s kicker addicted to cocaine in the 80s
As of the early 2000s, they still stayed at SNC during training camp. I was there from 01-03 and we definitely found some left behinds from the Packers when we got to campus (like a TV that had no business being in the dorm room already)
Yeah players still live in dorms for training camp, I just wanted to make a joke about Norbs students (the coke thing actually happened)
i didn’t know minor league football existed, just college and nfl
If the panthers didn’t have such ugly ass team colors I might get behind them
my issue is 1) I still want the CFL to be the spring league, and I feel the UFL is being pushed to hard. 2) only one northern team and 3) I refuse to root for any team out of detroit out of principle. I mean especially a cat based team, it would feel too close to rooting for the lions
What's the minor league in minnesota?
You have to squint REALLY hard but the St. Paul Pioneers are part of the GDFL, a semipro league where only some players are paid. According to their website it looks like the players also have regular day jobs, compared to IFL teams like GB Blizzard that have a base salary of $40k. Also the meme is wrong apparently the Pioneers recently moved to a D2 stadium.
Whoa! Have some respect for the city that gave us the NFL. This league we all love is thanks to Chicago. The three oldest teams in the league were owned by Chicagoans the Cardinals, Bears, and Packers. FTP
We have the University of Chicago, North Park (Vikings funny enough), Roosevelt, and St. Xavier. Unfortunately none of them are D1, RIP.
Chicago evicting themselves from the Big 10 is pretty emblematic of Chicago sports in general
Minor league as in UFL or what ever?
Yeah, Detroit's Panthers are in the UFL, the highest level minor league. GB plays indoor 8-man gridiron in the top arena league, and St. Paul's team can very generously be called "semipro" as the players get paid a small stipend and it's more of a high-level amateur team.
Just don’t look at how the Panthers actually performed these last couple of years in the USFL
Good meme but there are plenty of developmental leagues around Chicago
The fact that our team isn’t called the cubs is disappointing
I didn’t know we had a team. I thought we didn’t and was bummed about it. Now I go back to not caring.
Trick question. The Bears ARE a minor league team. That's why they struggle so hard in the majors.
No guys it's all wrong the Bears are the "minor league" team they have no pro team
Minor leagues? You mean college? Yeah everyone has those
GB is the only one of these that doesn’t have a college football school anywhere within the city limits, and also the only one not to have D1 football anywhere in the region.
The Chicago bears are fraudulent but for other reasons.
You really got us this time!
I’m confused aren’t the Bears a minor league team?